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>Will be forced to buy a ShitStation 4 for persona 5
>Will be forced to buy a fucking nintendo console (NX) to play Breath of the wild
Meaning that i need two consoles to play two games. The Ps4's library, 99% of it, is available on PC as well. And the wii u doesnt have anything else going for it. Now tell me, as a consumer, is it justified for me to pay 800 dollars to play two video games? Please enlighten me why people defend stuff like that.
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>>342027594
Persona 4 is on PS3. Breath of the Wild is on Wii U.
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Bump as this is something I've been thinking about . Just food for thought though , if I was a company I'd figure that's the best way to corner sales.
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>>342027594
>i'm poor boo hoo
exclusives create competition
competition makes better games
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>>342027594
I agree. I think a monopoly would be more consumer friendly.
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I hate the autism surrounding exclusives and pseudoexclusives for console wars. 95% of the games I play on PC are multiplat and I play them on PC for a reason. Exclusives are great too, but I don't care if 4 or 40 are released a year

I suppose the one benefit is that they're optimized for one platform
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>>342027594
With the PS4k coming out you'll be able to pick up a used PS4 for cheap, since sheeple consumers will go out and buy it.

That's what I plan on doing to play Persona 5 and Bloodborne.
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>>342028075

>he uses the "poor" excuse while simultaneously calling people virgins for spending alot of money on good PC hardware

This meme I will never understand. Certainly you see the hypocrisy?
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Well OP if companies were forced to compete via actually making good games then the industry would be in some really big trouble.
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Exclusives make sense when you have some sort of deal with the platform holder (they pay development costs or devote a large marketing budget) as the platform holder wants to sell their platform over the competition.
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>>342027594
>consoles are worthless there's nothing to play on them
>exclusives are bad*
pc logictech
* it's ok when nintendo does it
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Everyone should just make the same product. I hate having to weigh pros and cons. Things being different is anti-consumer. Help, help I'm being oppressed!
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>tfw I was going to buy that new movie but they are for Panasonic Blu-Ray players only
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>>342028437
not him but it's ironic people waste hundreds of dollars for 10+ more fps hardware then buying another console that has newer experiences it's like hardware epenis matters more than the games; likely why it's called pc piraterace
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>>342027594
You're the problem here. You're the one rewarding shit you don't like by throwing money at the companies responsible.
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Persona 5 and Breath of the wild would not exist if they weren't exclusives you retard
>muh freedom
>muh evil corporations
go cry in a corner mustard race
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>>342027594
>Meaning that i need two consoles to play two games.

that makes you a retard
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>>342028154
>I suppose the one benefit is that they're optimized for one platform
if only
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Exclusives are the best way to keep the competition between companies. They force you to buy not only the game, but the console to play it if you REALLY want to.
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>>342029967
Uncharted 4
Resident Evil 4 for Gamecube (at least that version was the one that maxed out the specs)
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>forced
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>>342027594
Why would you even care about playing either of those though?
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>>342030156
This. Are you 6 years old OP?
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Why the fuck would corporations care about what's best for you?
They want to make money and they're not doing anything illegal or abusing any systems.
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>>342027594
If you don't wanna buy the console, then you're not playing the game. It's not gonna be changing anytime soon.
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>>342027594
Wii U emulation is progressing, so maybe you could play Zelda in a few years. Then you'll just need a PS4.
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>>342029871
oh great, the "Atlus has a contract with Sony" crowd is here
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>>342027594
Yea consoles shouldn't even exist and all games should be on PC, the industry would be WAY better like that.
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>>342027594
>P5 is on PS3
>Zelda is on Wii U
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>competition is bad because my child brain can't make choices
fuck off, literal retard
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>What do you mean I have to buy tortillas to make a quesadilla? Why can't I just use bread? Fuck you, I don't want grilled cheese, I want a quesadilla without buying tortillas!!!!
This is how dumb you sound m8
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>>342030828
>or abusing any systems
that's what they do idiot
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>>342027594
>boohoo why doesn't everything cater to me the thread

FUCK OFF
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>>342031334
try harder autist
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>activision slaves allowed 5 thread on the same game
>suddenly explosion of soapboxing self validating retards ordering us to agree with their armchair analysis
somehow not a surprise. retards need their validation and will powertrip at the slightest indirect approval
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>>342027594
>Weeb Trump supporter
Literally the lowest form of "human" being
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>>342027594
Are you autistic?

>Will be forced to buy a ShitStation 4 for persona 5
Persona 5 is on PS3 too
>Will be forced to buy a fucking nintendo console (NX) to play Breath of the wild
Breath of the Wild is on Wii U too
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>>342027594
>Why do companies make exclusive content for their hardware?
>Why do I have to buy said companies product to play their product on?
Kill yourself
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>>342031334
>food analogy
can you not
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>>342031075
i was only pc + wii gen 7. And i dont have a fucking wii u
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>>342027594
Who gives a fuck what pcuck think?
You made wrong decision just by wasting money on the most irrelevant platform.
You could simply buy ps4 and all multi-plat games as well as exclusives would be available.
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>>342031653
Shes solving all her problems by deleting stuff.
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What would you people do in the 90s when 95% of games were exclusives and even 'multiplats' were very different on each platform?
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>>342027594
you aren't being forced to do anything.

I haven't played a zelda game since oot, and i haven't owned one since the one on snes.

>why do I feel like i'm at an AA meeting?
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>>342031653
>FUCKING RETARD DELETE THIS
Guess I'm now #hillaryartillery
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>>342031906
t-that's mansplaining!
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yes it's a shitty anti-consumer practice

I have decided I will only play PC. Based gaben just wants to sell me lots of games on sale and lets me use whatever hardware I want to play them. I have such a backlog anyway. I'm not going to be tricked by the exclusive jew ever again. Plus these games usually come to PC eventually, sometimes remastered with all the DLC.

thinking of choosing the vive over the rift for this reason as well. I'm just worried that my japanese porn games will only have patches for the rift

save your money and find other good games to play
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>2012
PS4 wont happen, consoles are dying
>2013
No games lol
>2014
No games lol
>2015
1 Game lol
>2016
Exclusives are anti-consumer guys, they need to stop

I dont know if this is funny or sad
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>>342029310
What are you trying to convey?
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>>342031653
>Litteraly DELETE THIS
i cant contain my keks
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>>342027594
Get persona 5 on ps3 and play breath of the wild on the wii u emulator.
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>>342029871
>zelda games
>not profitable

nintendo could sell them on any platform and probably make even more money
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>>342032154
who ever said ps4 wont be happening?
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>>342031932
Thats my point? In the 90's, buying a different console was like buying a whole different gaming world. Now the only difference between the xbox one and the ps4 are 10% difference in power and 1-3 Exclusives wbile 99.9% of the games are multiplat.
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>>342027594
>Making your own games for your own system
>"Wow this is basically capitalism"

No shit.
Competition creates quality.
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>>342031906
>>342031983
>>342032258
>Muh Emails
Nigger no one gives a fuck anymore
Normies will vote for her because it's 2016 and the "Drumpf" meme
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I can't even imagine how shitty a state the industry would be in without console manufacturers publishing games.
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>>342032393
Delusional fanboys
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>>342032154
>2016
two games
wow...
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>>342027831
>>342031075
>>342031687
>>342032332
>forced to buy a PS3 for Persona 5
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>>342032839
You could buy a PS4 instead
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>>342032393
They did. Back in 2012. Sony was at a very bad state and people said they wouldnt be able to afford making a playstation.
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The only good exclusives are PC exclusives.
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>>342032839
But it's not really $800 is it now?

The argument falls flat since there is other alternatives.
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Sucks that all those people are holding guns to your head and forcing you to buy videogames.
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>consoletards actually defending pouring money into developers to pay them to make an exclusive rather than putting the money into making sure your console doesn't overheat and die after a year or need to be replaced because you cheaped out on all the components and it can't even output above 1080p 30hz

>muh competition

it's literally oligopoly. If they were actually competing they would compete as software on all platforms. They just exist to drive hardware sales in a mostly zero sum game and to justify fanboyism
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>>342027594
>Now tell me, as a consumer, is it justified for me to pay 800 dollars to play two video games?
If and only if you're willing to pay it. That's how capitalism works.
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>>342032752
Damn... really... makes you.... think..........
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>>342027594
>>Will be forced to buy a ShitStation 4 for persona 5
You could always grow the fuck up and stop playing games.
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>>342032752
50% of the usa hate clinton.
70% of the usa hate trump.
Get fucked /pol/
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>>342033029
People don't buy consoles for hardware though, they buy them for games.

More times than not the console which doesn't have the highest specs wins a console war.
Why?
It has games to play on it.
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>>342032752
Greetings from Germany.
If you let her win, enjoy having Merkel 2.0.
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>>342033029
They are competing to make their gaming platform the best option
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>>342030063
>Resident Evil 4

Sure, that's an example from back when there were actual differences between hardware that made exclusives make sense. The N64 and the PS1 barely shared any games because they had completely different hardware and different strengths. Nowadays the PS4 and Xbone literally run on the exact same PC architecture. Apart from minor hardware differences they're the same shit in different boxes. Exclusives are now purely business.
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>>342033324
It has been proven that exclusives make way better use of the hardware than multiplats, even if they run on the same architecture porting is not as easy as people think
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>>342032203
disregard spang-posters
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>>342033323
which is bad for consumers since you lose just as many exclusives as you gain by buying one console and end up with shittier hardware
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>>342032752
>all this effort

You ok bud?
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>>342027594
>forced to buy a PS4 for a game that's on PS3
>forced to buy an NX for a game that's on Wii U

Drumpfags are fucking retarded, what else is new?
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>>342027594
sell them when you're done.

not sure what the problem is. consoles will be gone soon enough anyway.
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>>342033602
Those exclusive games exist solely because of the publisher invest them
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>>342033546
But do we really have any strong examples of that yet in the current generation? Last generation there were games like MGS4 which obviously looked better than any multiplat. Does Uncharted 4 really look that much better than other games?
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A single console market would be terrible because the manufacturer would have everyone by the balls.

A PC only market would be nice, but the AAA market would be smaller because a relatively small portion of PC owners have high-end gaming rigs.
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>>342033962
>Does Uncharted 4 really look that much better than other games?
Yes, also R&C
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>>342027594
Without exclusives there would be no competition as the most powerful console will be bought (except for the most rabid of fanboys). The decreasing player base will cause developers to overlook the competition when making new games or half ass their ports because of the smaller user base. Then the competition will have to drop out eventually because when a console is make they are stuck with it for 4-5 years. Exclusives make sure we still have competition.
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>>342033925
lol no

console makers get all their money from licensing games so they want to sell lots of units to sell lots of games on them

they only bribe developers to make a game exclusive to give people a reason to buy their shitty hardware so they can suck as much profit out of the industry for themselves as possible

without exclusives, games could be sold on any platform or even through the publisher's own online distribution so they sell more games and keep more of the profit for the game developers instead

>>342034306
you mean there would be actual competition for good hardware and system software. There's no reason for shit obsolete hardware to exist.
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>>342034626
What about the ones that make their own games, like Nintendo?
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>>342034626
>they only bribe developers to make a game exclusive

Developers cant make a game without a publisher, unless they are indie, which is not the case here, you know nothing of what you are talking about, im gonna stop responding now
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>>342034626
>they only bribe developers to make a game exclusive to give people a reason to buy their shitty hardware so they can suck as much profit out of the industry for themselves as possible

Your point being? This isn't a charity, you know. Video games are a luxury item. No one's forcing you to buy these games.
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>want pizza forced to goto dominos
>want hamburger forced to goto mcdonalds
>can't download either
what do
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Well this thread has made it obvious that mustards are 12 year olds.
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>>342038220
>>342037924
Just let the thread die
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>>342027594
The most cancerous part of exclusives is in how to play a PS3 exclusive right now if you own current gen consoles, you either have to keep yet another lump of plastic out and hooked up to one of your HDMI slots or you have to buy the game a second fucking time as a """""remaster""""".

Shit is full cancer.
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>buying a PS4 for P5
>not buying a used PS3 for fifty
>not waiting for the Wii U emulator to have BotW playable
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>OP uses that pic, doesn't support capitalism and the free market
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>>342036714

I've always imagined things like boats and expensive sports cars luxury items, given that the most poor among us can never ever have them. Never really envisioned games as one of those.

I hear this often enough these days. Is that really true? That it fits into the definition of a luxury item?
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>>342027594

Please clean you're fumos windowsill anon, she might get sick.
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>>342031043
>>342029871
If Atlus did have contract with Sony, you'd see actual promotion and assistance for localization for Persona 5, like what happened with Vesperia and Microsoft.
But nothing like that is going on here. Atlus is slow with releasing trailers, most likely has barely started on dubbing and isn't localizing the game in tandem with developement, and only promotion Sony has given for the game is space in Playstation blog.

Much safer bet is that Atlus is just incompetent, and couldn't handle ports since they can barely handle localizations.
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>>342038875
Americans are so poor and living a hell that even being able to afford a videogame is luxurious for them.
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Why are PCfags so upset with exclusive.

They love to shit on consoles versions but the second a game is a console exclusive they cry about. Is it because it forces them to have to buy a console in order to play a game?
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>>342039639

True, I am poor as shit.
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