>tfw the skill ceiling is so low that the best player in the world misses 6 perfect shots in a row due to RNG spread.
How can people even live with themselves playing this garbage?
because it's fun and I don't give a shit about ranked or competitive play because I'm not a 14 year old autist
>>341996584
Fuck off casual. This is thread for hardcore gamers. Back to your angry birds.
>>341996257
>>>>>>>>the best player in the world
LOOOOOL
>>341996257
it's due to shitty valve servers and 60 tick.
This wouldn't happen in a pro game on decent servers and 128 tick
>>341996820
>Valvedrones who spend hundreds of hours in this game still don't know how it works
top fucking kek
>>341996820
>standing still
>IT'S BECAUSE OF THE TICK RATE!!!
Moron.
>>341996257
if people wanted realism they would play ArmA
>tfw ArmA will never be an esport
>>341996921
care to elaborate?
>hurr durr i'm more intelligent because I said so
>>341996995
damn that would actually be really cool like a 256 v 256 arma game with people who are actually good
Desert Eagle has fucked landing accuracy. You need to literally wait for 3 seconds for it to be accurate again. As you can see, f0rest jumped before shooting and that is why the shots don't connect first. It would be faster to quickswitch to another weapon and back.
play W:ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCwUPE1O36U
>>341996257
>the best player in the world
that's not me in the webm though
>>341997286
what a boring video
>>341996257
>the best player in the world
>>341997739
what a boring post
>>341998016
what a boring (you)
>>341997286
>Youtube still won't allow 144 fps videos
>>341997949
Well, best player in the world without cheats anyhow.
>>341998310
epic reddit memes
>>341997274
>arbitrary accuracies that aren't even shown on crosshair or gun movement
how the fuck is this acceptable
>>341998413
Epic indeed
>>341996257
Every now and then I realise I haven't played any CS:GO for a while and load it up.
Then I remember that I haven't played in a while because my actions only have an incidental relationship with the results in the game, and don't play it again for a while.
Kek, fucking Valvedrones.
There's not a more pathetic fanbase in the industry.
There's not a lower skill cap FPS on the market either, for that matter.
>>341997124
>lan tourny
>literally needs a hangar
would be rad desu
>>341997286
that's the worst bhop video i've ever seen
at least the video quality is good and not recorded in 240p on bandicam
>>341996820
>standing still
>tickrate
>>341998798
(you)
>>341997739
>>341998016
>>341998049
B O R E R I N G
>>341998798
this webm is so funny holy shit
>>341998470
The game was made a while ago back when those kind of things were hard to program. Nowadays, we have randomized recoil that is visible on the gun models / crosshair, but back then the easiest way to code it was to just make the bullets follow the same pattern every time. Since everyone got used to this system, they kept it how it was and added EXTRA random inaccuracy on top of it.
post csgo webms
>>341998470
You can customize that in settings, senpai.
>>341996257
probabilities occur independent of each other
it's possible to flip a coin 1000 times and never get heads, it's not likely, but is possible
>>341996257
but its ok when arma 3 does it
>>341998798
>that webm
I'm dying
>>341996257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKgKXjs3EFg
its called jump inaccuracy u dumb nig
>>341999462
The issue, of course, is that CS has a lot of 'coinflips' integrated into the core gameplay.
When's the last time anyone cared about a coinflipping tournament?
>>341999462
What if a coin lands on it's edge?
>it's a shitters complain about a game they suck at episode
wew
>>341999985
>>341998632
>muh gotv bug
>my shitty razer mouse does it all the time!
>lol he can't possibly cheat you're jealous because you're a silver xD
Expect one of these.
It's been a while
>>341999735
Don't fall for the bait.
This guy posts the same thread everyday for over a year now.
he fucking jumped
you cant tell from this webm but the deagle is horribly inaccurate for quite a while after jumping
his crosshair doesnt show that
>>342000359
>its a tryhard defends a shit game episode
lmao at you nerds that take this trash seriously then cry when you run into players me in mm
>>341998798
/pol/ plays CS:GO
>>341996995
I'm having ten boners in my pants from the thought of this, thank you brother.
>>342000625
>he jumped!
Valvedrones. Every single time.
>>341997124
>Prize pool divided between 256 people
>>341996995
>killing people should be a sport
>xd guys I'm using military slang to better my simulator game experience and I can do a hundred pushups, I'm so strong and dangerous lol
Really though, yall just need to git gud
>>341996820
>people don't realize this is beautiful satire
>>341998798
funniest fucking webm i've ever seen, i love how you can see him stopping and thinking for a moment after reloading where to draw the next line
DELETE THIS FUCKING THREAD. You will regret ever trying to deface one of Gaben's beautiful children. /v/ does not forget.
I exclusively play CSGO for the sliding servers
>>342001129
Is this a webm from overwatch? His cursor never even went over a single one of them yet still gets free kills.
>>342000872
>Points out exactly why he missed
>V-valvedrones
CSGO killed my friends.
>>341996257
Falseflagging Blizzdrones are at it again. Your tickrate is garbage and so is your game.
>>342000625
doesn't last 6 seconds tho
>there are people on this planet who think that Valve games can be anything more than just casual online shooters for gullible paying retards
>they get called out
>"h-high tickrate servers are the solution"
>"VAC bans all hackers"
>"you can just ignore the ugly cosmetics, the game is totally not a cash-grab"
>"picking the same heroes/guns/classes all the time in order to be effective doesn't mean that the game is not balanced"
>"frequent updates(to add skins or break the balance even more) show that Valve cares about the players and the games"
Just stop. There's nothing wrong with liking Valve games, but if you think that they are competitive in any shape or form, then you really are a delusional retard who is only trying to justify the stupidly high amount of time he has spent playing them.
>inb4 "if they are not competitive then why are you not Global Elite yet?"
Because OP's WebM shows that trying to care about your performance in a poorly made video game will only lead to frustration.
>"b-but there are people who have managed to become amazing in CSGO!!1"
There are people who can swim in shit faster than me and I'm ok with that. They can rightfully claim that they learnt how to swim in fucking diarrhea better than anyone else, but I don't see why anyone would want to try and challenge them.
>>341997124
>Team size becomes prohibitive to entry by private organizations
>Nation-states start to field their own teams
>International league becomes popular
>A nation's ArmA skill becomes seen as indicative of their actual military capacity
>International conflicts are settled in ArmA instead of on the battlefield
Did we just figure out world peace, /v/?
>2006
>people mock Bethesda for trying to sell $5 cosmetic horse armor
>2016
>people jump over each other in a rush to buy a different colored knife for $3000
>>342000625
>>342001452
So let me get this straight. If you jump, your gun will no longer be accurate enough to hit people for like 7-10 seconds after landing?
Wow, what a great mechanic and game!
>>342001741
>Retards pay bethesda
>Retards pay me
There's a difference dumbass.
>>342001646
And then there are the people who will ask "Why is it an esport then?". It's not like Valve themselves don't pour millions into it or anything and they get double the amount thanks to people watching that stuff.
>>342000625
Is this a joke?
>>342001912
>Valve
>spend money on CSGO
wrong game
>>342001903
Also Valve because they're taking a cut of all those transactions.
>>342001646
I think every sport / hobby has a meta so your point about picking the same heroes/classes/guns is irrelevant.
Frequent updates are to change this meta that you're bitching about. Just because you can't buy duelies and run around the map winning every gun fight doesn't mean CS is unbalanced. The economy is actually a really unique thing about CS:GO
But you've obviously made your mind up about CS and "e-sports" in general, so have fun flaming.
>>342002380
>dualies and run around the map winning every gun fight
Nice projection, you learned that through first-hand experience, huh?
>economy is unique about CSGO
Yes, unlike KF2, PD2, TF2, DOTA2 and every other game that features Valve's microtransaction model. Take a picture of your blank empty green eyes, shill.
>>341997286
I used to, best ~8 years of my life.. I could still play it but eh, dont feel like it honestly
reminder that gun skin costs 30$
>>342002757
I really like kf2 but i was pretty fucking irritated when i saw they straight copied CS:GOs cosmetic system
>>342001449
Just Pure Skill
>>341996257
It makes no sense to take about the skill ceiling of an isolated incident.
>>341998798
the best part is after failing he gets shot by a german
>>342002757
>tfw you realize you were so buttflustered that you didn't realize he was talking about the pre-round buy system and your cheeks flush rosey-red.
>>342003682
It makes no sense to defend this happening at all, frogcancer.
>>342004254
>economy done right
In no way is it done to prolong player interest so they can "get the good guns".
Game design 101, come on. Does time sink ring a bell?
>>341996820
>>342001268
Don't worry anon, I got it immediately.
>>341998632
That's not cheattttinggg!!!oneone!!11one that's just perfectly ordinary head gravity perk bonus you get once you reach global elite!
>>342004519
Annnd the damage control
How can you live with yourself? The cognitive dissonance silences every other thought in your head.
I bet you're so embarrassed that you're just close your browser to try and pretend this never happened.
>>342004851
Great counter, my man, well done.
>>342001467
Don't cry, poor anime girl. It'll be fine, time heals...
>>342004096
why?
There are more asians drawing swastikas than germans.
Incidentally, there are also much more americans who swear fealty to the hook cross nowadays than germans.
>>341000000
>>342004673
>>342000457
I was just told everyone does this without thinking about it, even through walls. The maps are so tiny it's just coincidence. Just look at your own replays.
>>342005942
>normal person would keep crosshair at the door opening
>'esports professional' snaps to someones head through the door and stays locked as he strafes to the side
It just happens :^)
>>342005942
I was wondering when you'd show up.
It's 100% impossible to do this kind of movement. His aim doesn't shake even a little and locks into the guy as he moves.
I wonder how stupid you have to be to say something like you did.
Is it denial? Would it destroy or life or something? Are you a fucking shill?
I don't even know anymore.
>>342005435
you fucked up
>>342000000
>>342006391
>>342006392
>I was just told
I had asked one of the people in my TS who actually plays CS:GO and just typed what he replied as best I could.
>>341996257
Wow, how shit was the other player.
>some skilled games
No one actually take the time to realise that the player f0rest was shooting just spawned, on a deathmatch server that the majority have respawn invincibility for the first few seconds or until they shoot?
>>342006557
>This kid who plays CSGO 8 hours a day told me people do this all the time because he doesn't want to destroy the illusion that he can strive to one day be as good as the professional cheaters
Valvedrones are probably the most pathetic group of fanboys in the industry.
>>342006557
He's a fucking imbecile then, much like 90% of the CSGO community.
If you want more blatant cheaters, look up k0nfig, shox, apEX, flusha and byali.
Sometimes it really is a coincidence when your crosshair is directly above someone behind a wall, but no in this case. It's not a simple coincidence, his aim snaps and locks into the enemy, this is impossible to replicate.
I suggest you to keep researching known cheaters, it's amazing and it'll make you hate how dumb the fanbase is.
Here's another from Niko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdWU6G3KhB8
>>342006838
>This kid who plays CSGO 8 hours a day told me people do this all the time because he doesn't want to destroy the illusion that he can strive to one day be as good as the professional cheaters
That's an accurate description, holy niggers.
Probably thinks he's above everyone for 'understanding' how superior the 'professional' player might look to the casuals.
>>342006838
>>342006840
>>342007080
I'm not even going to bring it up with him, he'll probably just go "You don't even play the game, how would you know"
And he's right, I don't play the game, but fishy shit is fishy shit.
>>342006840
>those comments under the video.
How much of a faggot you need to be to defend some random "pro" player?
>>342007248
That's actually very sensible of you. Sometimes i wonder if it's really hard to understand that people might cheat in order to win prizes. Even olympic athletes do this kind of shit.
Valve shills must be fucking professionals for brainwashing an entire community for years.
This flusha guy is fantastic, you'd see his plays and wonder how he's still unbanned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leXjNLDjVXw
Some guy even replicated something he did with his own cheats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fri9uy9gSw8
>>341996257
you wish, overwatch babby
>>342007414
I sincerely don't know, it feels like it's personal for them. They have nothing to gain from it and only perpetuate cheaters in competitions.
It went too far for Valve to do something. CS is now being broadcasted on TV and a cheating scandal would ruin the competitive scene.
Not to mention all the LAN's won by fnatic. How would you punish an org for cheating 2-3 years ago? How would you pay the 2nd?
>>341996820
That's a custom server.
The hitboxes are the problem.
>>341996257
wouldnt surprise if some moron actually fell for this bait
>>341999735
he didn't even jump though?
>>342007248
It's really obvious since pros get caught for using aimbots all the time.
I always wonder why you'd do that but then I remember for some reason these games have online leagues.
>>342007524
Literally who cares if someone cheats at a online tournament, its freaking made up for people to be wallhacking. LAN tournaments is where all the skills comes down to anyways because of lagg or cheating or whatever
>>342005008
You literally don't understand the weapon economy system of the game and blame it on poor game design???
What is there to counter????
>>341998632
fuck off with this shit, he is aiming at the sound direction, trained to the default head height, and you wonder why you suck
>>342006775
shhh no one here actually plays csgo
>>342008878
>Literally who cares if someone cheats at a online tournament, its freaking made up for people to be wallhacking. LAN tournaments is where all the skills comes down to anyways because of lagg or cheating or whatever
But they cheat @lan too. And even then, how can you justify cheating even if it takes place online? There's money on the line, and most qualifiers take place online.
I really don't understand what you're trying to say.
>>342009119
It's actually because he jumped and the Deagle takes quite some time to be accurate again.
But go ahead, defend it for the wrong reason, i'm sure it'll make you look smart.
>>342009213
Do they not use 3rd party machines at LAN or something?
>>342009004
here's your (you)
>>342009004
Found the 14 year old with 2000 hours and $500 worth of skins in CSGO.
>>342009348
I'm sure it's not 6 fucking seconds of inaccuracy
What exactly makes CSGO "unique" compared to other shooters?
>>342009348
It's in addition to the initial jump inaccuracy. I didn't mention it because its already been stated multiple times
>people defend and enjoy this kusoge
How does it feel to be valve's little rat in a skinnerbox, valvedrones?
>>342005158
Stop being a such a fucking faggot.
>>341997286
conc jumping > bhopping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi4DnurZSbM
i don't know how anyone can think cs is a competitive game, even if it didn't have issues the gameplay itself is not very skilled and completely revolves around tactics and luck in high level play.
>>342009213
Im not justifiying cheating, but all of these problems has been around since 1.6. There is no way you can stop cheaters from cheating online.
What im trying to say is that its just a big shitfest and even if you caught some pro cheating by watching demos, guess what. There is probably atleast one or two more cheaters in the game not retarded enough to use aim assist cheats
>>342009481
Yep, but the players are granted unlimited access for training and the machines are always connected to the internet. Not to mention players are able to bring their own peripherals to play.
It's possible that they are downloading stuff from the steam workshop too.
Someone made a video a while ago, i'll see if i can find it.
>>342009639
you have to stop before you shoot and the better you are doing the better guns you can buy, that's literally it.
>>341998632
Didn't a bunch of big names get banned from TF2 recently for cheating.
Anyone that thinks a pro would never cheat is a naive shit.
>>342009639
I think what youre looking for in terms of 'unique' is the economy system of the game in competitive mode.
shitty f2p korean fps ripoffs don't count
>>342009974
>players are granted unlimited access for training
That's completely retarded
>>342006838
Well, at least they're not Blizzard fans.
Yeah I don't really understand the appeal of competitive Counter-Strike.
Playing the Zombie Mod in Source was always more fun than the actual game. If I wanted competitive FPS, I would just go play Call of Duty or something, because at least my bullets hit the enemies I aim at. Which is something that would make sense in a VIDEO GAME.
>>342009925
>There is no way you can stop cheaters from cheating online
Sure, but they're finding their way into lans too. Many of the flusha clips are from lans, and online matches are not irrelevant at all.
I understand your point but this is not the correct attitude to face the problem.
Ignoring and accepting that people cheat will not make it stop, and you only allow Valve to turn a blind eye on them.
>>342009905
its a completely different game at 'high level play'
>>341997274
After jumping it's like 6 seconds until it's normal again IIRC. This whole thread is shitposting, but we already knew that; how do we make the deagle not garbage but not as OP as in 1.6? I think having a 0.5-1 second delay after every shot before it's accurate again would be fairish, and obviously getting rid of the stupid high time it takes for it to return to accuracy after jumping
>>342010382
no it isn't lol
>>342010382
I'd imagine playing against aimbots would change the game quite a bit.
>>341997286
>tfw haven't played W:ET since 2008
>tfw used to play on Trick/Gamma jump servers all the time
Also loved the TCE mod that played like Counter Strike.
>>342010068
pretty much 90% of high plat snipers were VACced
this includes this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyzgreYLPSo
>arena shooters are dead
>>341996257
it's still better than every other "popular" fps out right now
at least the maps aren't shit. at least thers no kill streaks, at least theres no sprint or ads
AT LEAST IT HASNT' BEEN FUCKING MODERNIZED YET
>tfw source 2 will be and then people will realize how lucky they were with GO
>>342010473
have you atleast played a full league season of open? i dont think theres any point responding in this thread if people simply do not know the game lol
if not csgo, have you ever played a season of any fps at any level in any league?
>>342010357
Nah man, this is all valve. Its not up to us players to stop cheaters, its valves issue to stop it.
Have you heard blizzard does about cheaters? They ban the fucking PC hardware number so it isnt just buy a new account, thats one way to do it.
>>342001778
>I'm so bad at the game
>why doesn't the game just aim for me
>I wish I was playing Call of Duty
Every thread
>>342008607
Are you blind?
>>342010736
>source 2
Oh that's okay we still have like 10 years to go.
>>342010798
nope but i've played csgo using valves matchmaking with friends and i've seen csgo tournys on twitch, it's all the same shit you'll argue otherwise but you are wrong.
>>342001129
Nice 16 tick demo.
>>342010798
I was a 30 in halo 2 and a 50 in halo 3. my br will still go up your ass even though I stopped playing
>pic related is the best ranking system, ever.
>>342009905
>this happened one time so that means its like that for everyone
If the game is RNG then how are their high tier players in competitive? How is it so easy to not have your rank drop?
Oh yeah, you're a slivershitter, thats why1
>>342011039
If the bullets don't travel from the barrel in the direction I am pointing the gun, the game is bad.
Who /Q3A/ here
>>342010978
Yeah, but let's suppose you're an employee at valve. You know you don't have to do shit about cheaters because the community outright denies their existence.
They're certainly not going to punish teams like Fnatic and Dignitas.
If the community pressures them, i'm sure they would do something the next day,
But as of now, go to any website, specially fucking reddit and see their rules against """""witchhunting"""".
Certainly won't make valve act. I'm talking about pro players here, cheaters in MM will never go away, specially with VAC.
>>342011316
>q3a when there's reflex
>>342011293
>why do I have to learn recoil patterns
>why do I have to learn how to aim
Are these threads just made by Call of Duty children? Don't you have a Battlefield 1 preorder to be circlejerking over?
>>342011293
I like cs and im not going to defend this since it's exactly like going against people in a fighting game who have no idea what the combos are it literally doesn't mean the guy is any better.
cs is the only fps that does this with bullets except for battlefields sniper bullet drop
it's a stupid mechanic that is a non issue after a while
>>342011443
>hiding information on mechanics away from players
>good game design
>>342001678
that used to be the plot of league of legends
>>342011125
>>342011206
see this is what i mean... you are comparing casual 5v5 play to real organized 5v5 matches.
let me put it this way, if you were playing football would you even try to compare a scrimmage to a highschool match? to a college league match? to an NFL match?
i would hope your answer would be no, because the game is completely different at that level and that holds true the further you go up.
basically, you guys are casuals
>>342011316
Who /1.6/ here
>>342011637
but I have played game battles in h3 which was basically mlg online tournaments
>>342011206
muh BR
Halo lacked recoil for most guns so it was easy mode always.
>>342011436
Reflex is dead though
>>342011865for now
>>342011841
>arena fps needing recoil
ok, I can definitely tell you know exactly what you're talking about. recoil isn't a fucking thing in arena fps you tool. it's about how you actually move around the map without dying not just finding someone and shooting the once in the head and saying OH L OOK I GOT A KILL GUYZ
It's a server issue and CS GO does have shitty hitboxes with some of their models.
Some of the models with the heavy vest don't register damage unless you hit them 2-3 inches from the center line.
Headshots are instakill within 1-2 shots in offline mode. Valve always had shitty servers.
Got sick of CS GO because of it.
>tfw /v/ shits on CS but sucks Overhyped's dick dry.
>>342012110
>/v/ is 96 people
>>341998798
this guy irl
>>342011773
is this sarcasm?
i dont have an xbox/know halo so i dont know how 'serious' game battles is for competition/skill level
>>342011943
>now
Also, the new quake is going to be an Overwatch wannabe with heroes and casual shit?
How does it make you feel?
Just accept it anon, arena shooters are not gonna peak like they did with UT99, Q3 and UT2k4.
>>341996257
>invulnerability cancelled
>>342011656
who /cz/ here
>>342012368
it wasn't sarcasm. I'm serious. a 50 in mlg was the hardest 50 to get because the games settings/spawns were change appropriately. you also moved faster. that being said halo 3 was literally a watered down version of 2 with inferior maps
I reallyl wish h3 would just come to pc and do what cs go is doing
>>342012110
>A few people post the truth about CS
>Valvedrones flock to the thread to defend CS with bullshit excuses every single time.
>>342012543
also getting a 50 doesn't mean anything when it comes to actually playing in a tournament too. most people wouldn't pick you up if you weren't at least a 50
>>342012586
Not defending CS but Overwatch is just as shitty as a shooter(hell even worse since it's neo assfaggits with muh ultimates.).
Just sick of /v/ going apeshit for casualized TF2 with waifus.
>>342011513
>hiding
>implying anyone who got gud on csgo don't know when accuracy resets
one of the best and worst things about csgo is that casuals and newcomers have a hard time getting in to it which fends off most casuals who left the game before touching the p90
>>342011467
>>342012049
>best posts not getting a reply
did you guys get btfo or what??
Where's the valve apologist bingo card? I think we got at least 2 bingos already.
>>342010348
only correct post
>>342013079
valve is a fucking horrible developer and fucked their only chance at reviving the FPS genre with CSGO. that being said the only thing better in OW is the fact that blizzard actually notices the playerbase (casuals) and develops the game for them
>>342012912
Prove to me that it's not hiding information away from the player.
protip: you can't
>>342012681
adding on to this, its funny when people talk about their mm rank in csgo.
fyi, being global elite doesnt mean anything. it is literally the entry level you should be if you want to start playing competitively in esea and not get roflstomped by every other player
this is how ANY sport/game goes when you transition to a competitive level. you realize just how bad everyone below you is, and just how good everyone above you is...
>>342012853
What does Overwatch have to do with CS?
>>341996685
>hardcore gamer
>only plays a handful of games based on some imagined metric
Okay, friendo, enjoying being "hardcore".
>>342013441
This.
Global Elite players are complete shit. Well, CS players in general are shit.
>>342008010
>mission progress: +1 kill scored
no it isn't you goddamn retarded kid lmao
csgo kiddies are the worst
>>342010716
damn dude
didn't lmaobox go for like 5 years without getting detected?
>>342013441
>its funny when people talk about their mm rank in csgo.
cs go has a terrible fucking ranking system honestly it's one of the worst ive seen. halo 2 had am uch better one and that shit came out in 04. easily one of the best I've seen. it's just like ELO only your rank doesn't go down and it matches you with people your exact rank
>>342013294
there are charts everywhere in the internet about the accuracy/weapon stats, and the dynamic crosshair (which is pretty common) tells exactly when your accuracy resets after shooting/moving/jumping. you haven't played the game so you wouldn't know.
>inb4 w-w-well your wrong!!!
>>342013294
>spray your entire magazine into a wall
>you now know how recoil works
If anyone defends bullets not going where the crosshair is aimed (and it isn't showing the spread but rather a + ) then you need your head checked, honestly.
>CS is the only even vaguely decent competitive shooter still played
>dedicated shitposting force determined to act like it's couple of minor flaws make it literal garbage
>everything is in absolutes, ignore all positives
>especially ignore the complete lack of a better competitive shooter
>>342014058
But they're not ingame, so they're hidden away from the player.
>>342011443
>recoil patterns
>deagle
>>342013939
only your rank doesn't go down over time** sorry. yeah losing will make you de rank..
these new kids will never know what it feels like to be tied 49-49 in team slayer
>>342014058
>there are sources of information not in the game that...
Just stop. That's nearly as bad as not including a movelist in a fighting game.
>>342014171
>we should eat shit and be happy because it's the only thing available to us
>>342013294
>this competitive game shouldn't require you to learn it's mechanics
Do you think SF2 is a shit game because it doesn't show off it's combos, too?
>>342014194
they are ingame you fucking retard, i just said there is a dynamic crosshair option which informs of recoil and accuracy resets.
>pretending to be retarded
>>342013583
I got to global by winning aim duels and playing dust2 exclusively.
I don't know a single grenade. I haven't used any tactics at all, i just get into a fight and win it. I just flash long and kill people, i just rush catwalk and clear the bombsite.
What that guy commented is very accurate. I also started playing 3 months ago after 8 years without playing 1.6 or any FPS on PC.
>>342014310
You're right anon, maybe we should just stop playing videogames.
>>342014310
being unhappy doesn't change the fact that there is only shit to eat
>>342014351
Street Fighter 2, at least for the console releases, told you how to do special moves in the manual.
>>342014171
>CS
>decent competitive shooter
It's one of the worst, which is why it shares the most popular esports spots in 2016 with games like LoL, DotA 2 and Hearthstone.
Esports 15 years ago was about high skill cap games. Esports today is about the largest player base, which also correlates with ease of entry, low skill caps and casuals since they entered the market in 2007.
>>341996257
Hur hur more CS:GO has RNG bait.
>>342014496
Combos, not moves.
>>342013441
also in halo it wouldn't let you select which map you could play on. in h3 you could veto and it would select something else but you pretty much had to have good knowledge of every map in the game almost
not like in cs where you can be a global elite on dust 2 but play like a fucking mg on inferno
>>342014591
>CS doesn't have spread/inaccuracy
Valvedrones ladies and gents.
>>342014310
well no shit csgo is absolutely horrible and a shitfest of a game, nobody said we should eat shit but that's the only option since nobody in the modern game industry would listen to people asking for a truly competitive tactical/arena FPS.
also overcucks are just as bad as csgo kids. the genre is fucked.
>the funniest thing is the points /v/ tries to make when shittalking csgo just prove that they are too casual to understand the mechanics
>>342014612
Define combo.
>>342005942
>I was just told everyone does this without thinking about it, even through walls.
You can't be serious.
No, everyone can't see through walls nor do they unnaturally lock on to the heads of other players.
>>342014562
15 years ago CS was still huge though.
And CS has always been on par with Arena shooters on account of actually needing not-garbage aim, and actual fucking teamwork.
just look at the score, it's a shitty DM server and he tries to shoot an invincible guy who just respawned
>>342014419
>i rank up thanks to winning duels on duels: the map
wew lad
>>342014780
>define combo
Are you a literal retard who started playing games in the past five years?
No wonder the retards complaining about CSGO are so stupid.
A chain of consecutive hits during which your opponent is repeatedly hitstunned and cannot react, you fucking babby.
>>342014853
CS started the trend of low skill cap games for casuals who couldn't cut it at real games like Quake, Tribes and Starcraft.
>>342014734
Thats not spread nor inaccuracy dumbass.
>>342015021
That's discovered naturally by just playing the game. Nothing in CSGO even hints to the guns having a set pattern.
Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that CSS was better?
>better graphics
>actually had physics
>better maps
>better user made maps
>not hats type bullshit
>>342015043
any fps that needs an objective except for killing for map movement is bad. although you could simply drop weapons on the map in cs go and call it an arena fps ...I guess
>>342015043
Why am I not surprised that this recent shitposting is just where the "m-muh quake" arenababbys evolved onto.
Quake lost and requires no more skill to play. Move on.
>>342015017
Don't be fooled anon, it was just to show how gamesense and the strategic part of the game doesn't influence the ranks.
I'm still shit, you don't have to feel threatened.
>>342015196
Except, you know, your bullets flying out in a set pattern.
Or are you too retarded to notice where your bullets are landing.
>>342014351
>Do you think SF2 is a shit game because it doesn't show off it's combos, too?
World Warrior is a bad game for a ton of things (IIRC, the panel shows the moves, but that could have started with Champion Edition, I dunno). It's also got a ton of RNG (that never really went away, but at least got toned down enough that it's pretty much never the deciding factor in anything approaching decent level play by the time ST came out).
like, in WW, there's a random chance for special moves to trigger with a single button press, and random chance to get widened input timing windows (I think both of these disappeared in CE)
also, random damage scaling of hits
mind you, it's far from unplayable garbage and the visuals and sound are pretty great (particularly at the price SF2 boards sold for at release), but WW had a laundry list of problems that resulted in a slew of revisions
>>342014648
well yea of course, to actually be good you need to be a well-rounded, knowledgeable player on every map.
again, global elite doesnt mean anything except you can grind out mm games.
mm =/= competitive league play
>>342015429
>Except, you know, your bullets flying out in a set pattern.
You would never ever know this unless you dumped multiple magazines into a wall or looked it up.
>>342014351
not him but knowing combos someone else doesn't because they simply haven't played enough doesn't make your muscle memory any better than his muscle memory
because that's what fighting games are. their reaction time is definitely not better than fps and they both require the same mind games
>>342009004
Lol it literally locked on.
>>342015313
>any fps that needs an objective except for killing for map movement is bad
Why, because you don't like it? Just being different from a standard arena shooter doesn't make a game bad.
>>342015518
.......yes that is exactly what good players do.
>>342015326
Hearthstone won.
Esports in 2020 will be nothing but card games. You dug your own grave, my friend.
>>342015625
With no prior knowledge to the mechanics(which the game does not inform you of), literally nobody would just sit there in spawn and spray at a wall for no reason.
>>342015171
Valvedrones
Perhaps the least educated people in the industry.
>>342015618
no because it hardly requires you to think and move around the map to stay alive. the only thing you have to think about in cs is your team and what they're doing
being in the wrong place at the wrong time isn't a skill
shooting someone once in the face before they see you isn't a skill and is not fun
aiming isn't a skill its just muscle memory based on how much you play
>>342015518
Your bullets make very obvious impacts, retard.
If "actually requiring any thought" means it's LITERALLY impossible to discover then you might as well say that pickups respawning on a timer is something you would never know unless you stood there timing it or looked it up.
>>341996584
this game isnt fun though, its boring and simple as shit, hell anybody can pick up csgo, even if they have never played a shooter before
>>342011616
Is it not anymore?
>>342015964
No other game has recoil patterns, and CSGO does a terrible effort of informing players that there are recoil patterns. The crosshair certainly doesn't help any.
if the skill ceiling is so low, how come the same people are constantly winning tournaments? if the game was rng then you could get no name people all the time.
checkmate
>>342015730
>be shit
>waa waa gaym bad
OR
>be shit
>get on the internet and search for "how2gitgud@csgo"
>pages and pages of guides and videos etc.
wow so hard
>>342015767
>sniper rifles
>spread
>inaccuracy
go play the game
>>342016010
>hell anybody can pick up csgo, even if they have never played a shooter before
Yeah, i'm sure they'll learn that they can't move while firing their weapons, that there's a spray pattern you must follow to land your shots and that some weapons are more accurate than others in no time, let alone master the techniques.
CSGO is a shitty game, i agree, but you don't have to go this far to prove it.
>>342015795
is this bait?
you can accept that there are different types of shooters and call it a day.
cs does not need to be quake
quake does not need to be cs
>>342016206
every game requires skill
even wow was in fucking mlg based on team work
doesn't mean it takes a high amount of skill
>>342015795
by this definition no fps ever requires skill
>>342016214
>have to look up guides to explain mechanics instead of just putting in a tutorial
wow so hard but valve is perfect buy more keys
>>342016010
This. Why do people like csgo?
>choosing your own map for ranked zozzle
>rng spread
>spread goes above reticle
>cant jump shoot
>all 1v1s involved crouching like cod fuccs
>play the same map over and over with the same strat
arena shooters are dead from this shit, ima go preorder legion now then uninstall it two weeks after release
>>342015795
You're a literal retard if you actually think following a present path around a map requires any more thought than deciding which courses of action to take, and how to actively advance into areas held by an enemy.
Or if you think movement/shooting in an Arena FPS is any less muscle memory than aiming in counterstrike.
>>342016292
except the only thing cs has over quake is the spray patterns
quake can take the same kind of skill even if you add teams
>>342016323
not really, quake is way faster, you have to think faster and think about what paths to take to stay alive and youre not instantly dead on site just because someone spotted you
theres a reason cs go/cod wont work in 1v1s because theres no individual skill it's only team work, that's all
>>341996995
Because it is boring as fuck to watch regular joes play as professional soldiers. BUT they have to have the knowledge of professional soldiers themselves to work together.
Realism shooters that are super duper hardcore are fucking fail because of that.
>>341998798
>Too retarded to make a swastika.
Kek. PC competition at it's finest.
>>342016405
forgot about round-based is the only gametype for ranked zozzle, round-based gametypes are shit, cant even play the game, watch someone else for 2 minutes
>>342016405
>all 1v1s involved crouching like cod fuccs
Good one, showing you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>342016487
sight**
sorry
>>342016414
moving around the map in cs (as a team) I guess can be the same as quake
but in the end its just pure team work and muscle memory. you're not good alone
>>342014853
>comparing arena shooters with this garbage
