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Why was Battlefield 3 so fun yet Battlefield 4 so terrible?
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Why was Battlefield 3 so fun yet Battlefield 4 so terrible?
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>>341993291
they fixed bf4, its aight now, not great, but aight
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How was Battlefield 4 terrible? Besides not having any major improvements it was terrible at all.
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Battlefield 4 was literally a somewhat finished version of what battlefield 3 should have been. The series fucking sucks regardless now.
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Did they ever fix the graphical issues on BF4?

I remember jumping from BF3 to 4 and the graphics actually got worse besides the lighting.
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>>341993291
Why do they have grenades attached to their helmets? Easy to access?
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Bad company 2 beats both of them, bf4/3 try too hard to appeal to tacticool retards.
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>>341993846
Bad company is console shit. Kill yourself lad
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>>341993803
those r goggles
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>>341993903
What?
Bad company was console exclusive I believe, bc2 was released on pc.
What the actual fuck are you on about?
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>>341993903
So was 3
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>>341993992
Small linear maps with focus on rush and limited vehicles. Fucking magnum ammo

Enjoy your console shit son
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>>341994172
Whatever, I had a ton of fucking tearing buildings to shreds. And the Vietnam expansion was awesome too.
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>>341994172
>Rush wasn't fun
Yeah okay bud
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>>341993781
>EA
>Taking the time to fix anything
Good joke anon
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I really like both BC2 and BF4 as it stands right now on PC. I haven't been on BF4 too long (bought premium on sale earlier this week) but I've been having fun. Can't fly a chopper to save my life, though. BC2 has modded servers that don't require you to own the Vietnam DLC to actually play it, which is also a plus.

I think one of the only things I genuinely hate about BC2 is the fact that you can't run diagonally. It really gets on my tits. That and the fucking awful bloom you get looking down your scope on certain snow/desert maps.
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Daily reminder CoD is better. You can't jump around with a jet pack or wall jump in battlefield
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>>341993291
why was BF2 and BF1942 so fun yet BF3, BF4, Hardline, Battlefront so terrible?
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>>341993291
both bf3 and bf4 were fucking terrible
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That guy in the middle, is that our Nige?
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>>341994598
Shitpost or not i wish bf1 would be futuristic instead. But ea has star wars and titanfall already so i guess we'll never see a really futuristic battlefield again
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>>341995780
FUCK YOU AND YOUR FUTURISTIC SHIT. I'M SICK OF JET PACKS AND ALL THAT BULLSHIT. REMEMBER WHEN GAMES WERE GOOD? NO YOU DON'T BECAUSE YOU ARE FUCKING 15. THANKS FOR LOWERING THE STANDARDS FOR GAMES
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Diminishing returns.
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>>341993291
Battlefield 3 was shit
The last good BF game was BC2
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>>341996598
There are barely any futuristic shooters, you can't name anything that isnt cod, halo or titanfall. Also futuristic used to be the norm before ww2 craze took over. You are just projecting your own age lad
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>>341996908
And notice how they all went to shit with their futuristic bullshit and you want more games to follow the trend. Kill yourself
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>>341997078
>all went to shit
call of duty has been dropping in sales way before they went full jet pack
Halo was always future
Titanfall is a new IP

You are a retarded mongoloid pre-teen who doesn't know anything besides ww2 or modern warfare because your first fps was bf2
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>>341997249
I love how you are calling me preteen after I said you were 15. If you were my age you would realize future warfare is ruining games and halo did not always gave jet packs and kill streak rewards so that alone shows your age. Kill yourself retard
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>>341993291
just played battlefield 4 last night for the first time.

what the fuck are you talking about anon

>tfw missed all the issues the game went through from for about a year
Not my problem.
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>>341996598
Who said you needed jetpacks to be futuristc are you retarded? Have you not played 2142
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>>341997628
I'm talking about the current trend you fucking idiot
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>>341997448
Only a preteen such as yourself would play fps with a controller, sorry I have never played halo so dont go all autistic about its features. Makes sense you would hate future though because controller is absolutely terrible for fast movement

Or you could be 60 year old and hate futuristic games because they inevitably require faster reflexes. Either way you choosing to handicap yourself with a controller or not dying already is your problem and only ruins games for you because you are a retard
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>tfw I missed the launch bullshit of Battlefield 4 and just got it for 5 dollery doos

Life's great
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>>341997964
>tfw got BF4 premium edition for $10

Feels good
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>>341997812
Only titfall blops and advanced warfare have had someting similar to a jetpack or whatever. And plus there are games like insurgency verdun and red orchestra that dont follow whatever "trend" youre talking about friend.
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>>341997845
>I only play mature games for mature gamers such as myself

What grade you going into after the summer? 7th?
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>>341997964
>>341998106
>tfw same but my gpu broke and I haven't been able to play it even once
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>>341998123
>Lists old games to argue against the CURRENT trend of jet packs and running on walls and other stupid ass shit like kill streak rewards
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>>341998242
You must be really desperate for an argument if you equate futuristic with mature. And the projecting continues
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>>341998376
I'm talking about you trying to turn this into a pc vs console thing you fucking retard
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>>341993903
>>341994172
>"I have shit taste in video games"
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You might have had an argument at launch but BF4 is way better than BF3. High tick rate, free DLC, better balance. Only thing that's disappointing to me is map design and destruction but it plays so fucking well.
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BF4 > BFBC2 > BF3

desu
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>>341998481
Only a literal child would think stating an objective fact such as fps is terrible with a controller is trying to start any kind of platform war
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>>341993291
Battlefield 4 was rushed out of the door to compete directly with the new Call of Duty, which meant it was fucking terrible and unfinished.

Only after 8 months of bug fixes was BF4 playable.
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>>341998586
current bf4 is pretty much the best in the series after bf2. a true sequel. too bad it took so long to get there.
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http://bf4stats.com/

>mfw number of PC players keeps going up from 20k in the start of the year to 30k to 35k+ now in summer

It seems like everyone is figuring out that DICE LA fixed a lot that was wrong with BF4, its a good fucking game now, the best BF game in a while, better than BF3

These numbers will drop sharply though after BF1 releases I think, but they will still hover around 15k or so.
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>>341998591
Then why would you even bring it up? Out of the fucking blue you start talking about how mouse and keyboard are better? Why? Because you like stating random facts or because you are a fucking retarf trying to turn this into a console vs PC thing. Go do your summer book report faggot
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>>341998373
>Verdun (2015)
>Insurgency (2014)
>red orchestra 2 (2011) ok ill give you that one its abit older
But wait
>rising storm 2:vietnam (2016)
Not that old dude
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>>341998784

I don't think it's going to replace BF4 at all, they both scratch a different itch. I'm sure a lot of people will go back and forth or simply not be interested in a WWI setting.
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>>341998789
I know you have an attention span of about 5 seconds but please try to follow what is being said if you attempt to communicate anyone both on the internet and in real life
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>>341998784
BF1 is more Hardline garbage and I expect people will quickly get tired of playing same shit with a new skin and worse vehicles, just like they did with Hardline.
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>>341993291
BF3 had soul, it had charm, and it looked fucking great too. The community, for the first year or so, was actually pretty cool too. /v/ and reddit would regularly play each other and /v/, despite being the idiotic memespouting fucks we are, would usually pull through and win.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr7wovtbcYk
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>>341998949
>BF1 is more Hardline garbage
are you actually retarded
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>>341998941
>I can't come up with an excuse as to why I brought up mouse and keyboard vs controller. I know, I'll just say he has a short attention span!!!

You are cancer
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BF2 > 1942 > 2142 > PR > BF3 > BF4

Why does BF3&4 suck? Because they weren't about playing a match, they were about grinding for fucking hours just to get a gun or feature on a vehicle that you should have had the moment use of to begin with.

2142 had the best weapon swap system, as each one was balanced to it's class through simplicity.

I hope BF1 has no weapon unlocks.
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>>341993291

Battlefield 4 was literally Battlefield 3.5
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>>341993291
You grew up.
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>>341999070
If you go back and read you'll know two things, first that it's not about kbm vs controller and second why it was brought up. Really how bad is your adhd
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>>341998769
Yeah, and in some ways I like it better than BF2, but only in terms of graphics and shit, gameplay is still superior in BF2, but barely anyone plays it and I don't play Battlefield for PR levels of slowness and milsim, I play ARMA for that.

BF4 finally feels as solid as its gonna get though, and we're not getting any more patches sadly so this is what we got

Sadly the nighttime Siege of Shanghai map I played a bit of on CTE didn't get released for the main game and CTE is finished now too.

If BF4 had map/mod tools it would remain a staple of the BF games for years but DICE/EA just want to abandon it now it seems, even though so many still play it for now.

Hopefully attempts to reverse engineer Frostbite 2 will go well and BF4 becomes the mainstay BF game with people testing out mods and new maps on it for years, and it slowly grows a mod community of its own, one can dream right?
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>>341999102
It will have unlocks, sights and skins
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>>341993291
BF3 was the last of the great military fps. After 2011 fps went to shit and hasn't yet recovered.
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>>341993291
because battlefield 3 was a work of love and battlefield 4 and battlefield one are works of judaism
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I have to wonder why the fuck people keep saying bf3 is better. i played 600h of that blue fever dream and bf4 when it worked was infinitely better.
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>>341993291
What are those things on their helmets?

Double binoculars? Quadoculars? How does that work?
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The worst part of BF4 is the weapon and class balance. When I played BF3 it felt like all weapons were viable. In 4 assault rifles are vastly superior to everything else (with carbines being the second best option) and there is no point in playing with PDWs, DMRs and LMGS because they are so awful. As a result everyone plays assault class (or engies on bigger maps).
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>>341999173
>You are a retarf if you use a controller, mouse and keyboard is better

Yeah, I see it now, you were too busy doing your summer book report to realize what you typed
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>>341998489
you sure do
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>>341993781

FUCK no

try sniping, you can spot the breaking points in destructibles because they flash at you nonstop
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BF4 is better than 3 in just about every way, the one major exception being the unlock system - I've seen pay2win games with less grindy unlock systems.
The maps are better
Commander mode is...there, at the very least.
Vehicles are better balanced by being more specialized and the extra anti-vehicle measures work nicely (IGLA does big damage anti air at range so long as you maintain a lock, Stinger is fire and forget)
Looks really purdy
Movement is very satisfying
Buttons n shit, they're cute, elevators are nice.

I've only just jumped on the BF4 bandwagon, heard it used to be awful.

I'm fucking outraged BF1 is relegating boltguns to snipers and are still a 2 hit kill to the chest
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>>341998784
it's being sold for 5 $ right now, and they're giving away another DLC for free for Hardline and every week, until 1 releases
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>>341999221
>BF3 was the last of the great military fps.

No thats BF4, BF4 is what BF3 should have been, and thats only after DICE LA fixed all that was wrong with it and added in tons of options and features that were missing from the release.

Most important of all netcode improvements, you can really see the difference playing on a 30hz tickrate server vs 40-60hz.
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>>341999569
Deliberately choosing the inferior method might not make you retarded but I wouldnt let you near my kids
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>>341999478
flashlights that point at the ground to light up what they are walking on but not to shine in their faces with it
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>>341999630
>relegating boltguns to snipers and are still a 2 hit kill to the chest

It has a bell-like damage spread. You can actually one-shot people at certain medium ranges.
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>>341994172
You're the cancer killing the industry. Bigger maps doesn't mean better gameplay.
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>>342000107
1 shotting center mass?

hnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggg
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>>342000118
you know this thread is about battlefield, right? bc2 was your first bf it seems.
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>I never played BC2
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>>341999478
Panoramic night vision goggles, normal binocular NVD's have a quite limited FOV.
The panoramic ones have an FOV of around 100° instead of the old 40-60°
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>>342000118
Yeah, I would say that biggest BF4 maps like golmud are actually the worst ones. Probably because the game is designed for close and medium range combat.
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>>341999102
Is that Burnie Burns?
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>>341999931
>look down
>now your chest is lit up instead of the ground

>>342000273
Thank you.
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>>341993291
>Why was Battlefield 3 so fun
It wasn't.
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>>341999692
Final Stand is best DLC
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>>341993781
Bf3 looks like garbage compared to 4
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>>342000347
golmud is great the settlements have plenty of space for infantry to coagulate on vehicles
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How did they fuck up the vehicle vs infantry balance so badly? Anything with 25MM HE rounds just shreds infantry while still having a ton of health or being fast as shit.

There are too many ways to spawn. Back-caps should mean something and take some skill to pull off. Not be caused by there being a couple impossible to find spawn beacons. Some points are nearly undefendable, like F on Zarod or the parking garage on the town that can flood.

The entire game is just run and gun. I can't think of any maps or points in BF4 where support can use a bipod with an LMG and do well. I don't think I've ever seen it happen. This is related to the point above, but outside one or two maps there aren't front lines anymore.
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>>341999102
I somehow failed to notice that he and Snoop were totally smoking during that whole live stream. XD
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I'm so fucking mad we dont have map editor for BF4

Imagine what people could do with it
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>>342001338
>XD
Summer is real.
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>>341999102
BF2 > 1942 > 2142 > BF4 > BFBC2 > BF3 > BFV > PR
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>>342001765
Go on, let it all out.
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Why won't Dice just make a Bad Company 3 with improved Battlefield 4 gameplay?

They should know by now no one likes their fucking super serious campaigns, whereas the bad company campaigns had a ton of charm to them.
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Is /bfg/ alive again?
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>>342001765
>He uses XD
>He uses XD unironically
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>>342002103
because hardline already showed that taking features away will not work and people will just go back to 4

and that's exactly what the bad company games are, they are missing tons of features
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>>342002103
They should stop with campaigns period. And either focus entirely on multiplayer or give us instant action with bots for SP instead of some fucking hamfisted campaign.

>BF1 will have campaign

FFS DICE
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>>342002270
Did you stop reading after I said Bad Company 3?
I said Bad Company 3 with improved 4 gameplay. As in, more features, more stuff, just the bad company style campaign which doesn't take itself too seriously.

>>342002379
They saw the outrage when Titanfall didn't have a campaign and they don't want that.
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>>342002519
no one cares about campaign
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>>342002270
>hardline already showed that taking features away will not work and people will just go back to 4

This.

http://bf4stats.com/

http://bfhstats.com/

BFH has about as many peak players on PC now as Star Wars EAfront
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>>341993291
How can you be so wrong, OP?

OP confirmed shitter /console retard.

The only negative aspect of BF4 are the map designs.

Otherwise, BF4 exceeds in every aspect better in balance, gunplay, attachments, etc.
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>>341993291
Bf3 had awesome rush maps.

Bf4 focused on large map conquest designed for autistic vehicle campers and disregarded other game modes.
I also want to say that sliding on the ground was nerfed in bf4 compared to 3 but im not sure.
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battlefield 3 was fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzZqVDoai_U
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>>342002519
BF3 had a campaign because they wanted to compete with Call of Duty, since that was even what the EA CEO said at the time, BF was competing with COD.

And it was mediocre as fuck, and BF4's campaign I didn't even play, nor did many other people, and I have 130 hours in BF4 already

People play BF for the multiplayer (and used to for the instant action with bots) not the fucking campaign. They restricted 3 or so weapons to campaign missions, and I rarely see anyone with them still, and I'm sure as fuck not going to bother with the campaign for 3 additional weapons when the MP is fucking full of guns already.

I cant recall the last time I saw anyone using a P-90 in MP for instance.
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>almost 200k players in BF4 right now across all platforms
>game still has missing features and unpatched bugs

Do they really think they can go ahead and do that? Just abandon the game entirely?
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>>342002719
I will add to this that bf4 has WAY more bullet spray than bf3 when shooting full auto. I don't know if the guns have defined spray patterns like cs, but it was a major difference to me when i played 4.
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>>342002873
they'd be better off making BF1 multi only with a planned expansion pack free (maybe just for first month buyers)

Commit to the game and its community and it will support you. Think of the cost to develop a campaign that 90% of its players wont finish?
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>>342003086
>>game still has missing features and unpatched bugs
elaborate
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>>341996598
t underage kiddo who's first fps was modern warfare.
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>>342003125
BF3' absolutely retarded suppression makes bf4's bullet spread seem laser accurate
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>>341994172
While you are still fucking retarded and probably played 24/7 infantry only karkand on bf2, magnum ammo was really fucking stupid.
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>>341993638
as a sonygger blame consoles.

Niggers, kids and normies jumped onto the "LE COD SUCKS AND BF IS AMAZING" meme.
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wait
BF4 is 5€ now?
how is the game without the dlcs?
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>>342003301
>absolutely retarded suppression
good times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2QjpLmOKz8
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>>342003203
>Think of the cost to develop a campaign that 90% of its players wont finish?

Exactly, I still have no plans of playing that campaign, multiplayer is all that matters, and I often think about just how much resources, time and money they wasted on the campaign so many will never play.
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>>342002719
No, the only Battlefield that did Rush right was the first Bad Company because the maps were built exclusively for it, as opposed to the games after which tried and failed to make the maps work for both game modes
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>>342003509
I think he is glitching, there was a bug at one point that let you fire from the hip with ads accuracy
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>>342003380
Magnum ammo along with body armor should have been removed from the game. But there's some stuff DICE will just not address in patches, not matter how much it hurts the game.

>>342003509
I miss BF3 LMGs, area control was fun.
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>>342003489
considering bf3 have 2 servers without the dlc
i doubt its worth 1€
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>>342004036
bf4 has like 30k concurrent players on pc
you think most of those people bought premium
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>>342003489
Depends on platform, on PC you almost need premium since most active servers run the full rotation of maps, on console you can skip it, since servers with custom map rotations aren't joinable via the quick join feature and the in-game server browser is buggy, so most servers just run default maps or a single DLC playlist.
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>>342004036
>>342004274
You can literally go check how many vanilla servers there are
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/servers/
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>>341994172
Battlefield veteran here. I've played every Battlefield from 1942 up to and including 3 with the exception of Bad Company.

It wasn't super great, but Bad Company 2 was loads more fun than BF3. BF3 was by far the shittiest game of what I played. Even shittier than Heroes and the console version of Battlefield 2.
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>>342004835
Yeah BFBC2 > BF3 but BF4 > BFBC2 for me
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>>341993440
I dunno, maybe the YEAR that it was a broken piece of shit due to bottlenecked netcode of 10mhz and all of that incoming information AND having client side formulas as well


Or the fact that the base maps were designed by artists and not game designers as well as being made for only two games, Conquest and Obliteration, leaving Rush completly fucked
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>>341999221
play more games

insurgency, squad, hell even R6Siege is pretty good
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Post 'em
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>>342005004
It werks now. Also has 100+hz servers on pc

>Rush
go play bad company
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>>342005309
yeah NOW is the key word here
and most of them are still 30Hz
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>>342005004
And to add some more salt

Why the fuck did they fuck over custom servers with HURR DURR NO QUICKMATCH FOR RANKED MATCHES HAVING NON CONFORMED MAP ROTATIONS MEANS ITS RANKED ENJOY YOUR BASE MAP ROTATIONS OR SMALL GROUPS OF MAPS MAN IS OUR SYSTEM SO GREAT BUY PREMIUM FOR A FREE DICK SUCKING BY JADE SINCE WE GOT HER FROM UBISOFT! BUY JADE'S GAME!

>>342005309
But the point is it took them so fucking long to get it there while saying there was nothing wrong.

>>342005292
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>>341999032
Not him but it's true, Battlefront baby.
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>>342003203
>>342003514
>Think of the cost to develop a campaign that 90% of its players wont finish?
Actually, even if the singleplayer campaign was all the game had, most of its players wouldn't finish it.

Look at achievement stats for a few random games sometime and see what % of players actually have the "complete the story" achievement. It's usually 40% or lower. Sometimes even under 10%, like RDR.
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The only thing I want from this series anymore is 2143.
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>>342005448
Only good servers are the ones with 500% ticket rate.
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>>342005554
Yep, people just can't be fucked.
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>>342003929
NO. BC2 maps were unbalanced on rush because the attackers could destroy all the buildings and props the defenders had for cover leaving them with a clear advantage.

BC2 rush maps also had a sparsely covered no mans land between the mcom area and the attackers spawn on some of the maps that lead to a boring stalemate.

The bf3 rush maps were far more memorable and fair to play on. They were more compact and dense with props so you could kill 8-10 people while moving from cover to cover. It was easier to kill helicopters on bf3 with the auto lock missile launchers, so skilled pilots couldn't mow down your team.
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>>342005661
I like a mix of everything, switching to different shit when it starts to feel stale or boring after 4-5 maps.

Rush and Conquest with 500% tickets and with 100% or less, its all good and fun at one point.
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>>342005436
>But the point is it took them so fucking long to get it there while saying there was nothing wrong.
what does it matter what it used to be, only thing that matters is what it is now as far as anyone thinking about buying the game is concerned
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>>341994270
>And the Vietnam expansion was awesome too.

It was okay, but it was way too limited by the cap on max players.

I would have much preferred just a new BF Vietnam.
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>>341998769
My only gripe with BF4 is that it allows for reload while running

WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THIS IS A GOOD IDEA?
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>>342005893
Didnt bf3 allow that too?
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>>342005436
>BUY PREMIUM FOR A FREE DICK SUCKING BY JADE SINCE WE GOT HER FROM UBISOFT! BUY JADE'S GAME!

I dont think Jade had any input whatsoever on this game m8
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>>342005785
That is the difference between new players and old players

Sure that whore may look pretty now, but before she was an ugly piece of shit stuck in a room eating eggs.
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i cant even tell if this screenshot is from a game or real life
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>>342005976
so it literally does not matter
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>>342005893
BF3 was designed around having front lines. BF4 was designed around run and gun.
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>>342005436
I never see BFG anymore when I play
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>>342005952
I don't remember because I lost interest in it much quicker than BF4.
mostly because it was that humble bundle version with no DLC so I could enjoy the feeling of betrayal of anyone who bought it on launch
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>>342005954
Where does it say there that she did?
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>>342002121
no they just stick to their mumble
maybe with battlefield 1 they will come back
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>Why was BFBC2 so fun and BF3 and BF4 so terrible?
FTFY
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>>342006171
Night Operations would have been 1000% times better if the infrared scopes were disabled.
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>tfw the only thing I wish for BF4 is for a map editor so we can have new maps of our own and the community finally gets to unleash its creativity and original ideas on BF again

I WANT NEW MAPS DAMN IT
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>>342006506
Skill ceiling on bc2 was far lower than bf3/4 so the shitters on here like it.
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are those google supposed to deal with the feild of view vision deficit caused by the original goggle design?
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>>342006506
Because BFBC2 was more teamwork centralized while BF3 and 4 are ego shooters

Also

What do people think about the change of Conquest in BF1? Tickets now count up instead of counting down.

Or that the Behemoths are basically MAN BOYS, YOU ARE SURE SUCKING THIS ROUND

Seems like Commander is also not returning.

And seems we are gonna have less guns and more variations of the same weapon
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>>342006613
> What are flares smoke and flashbangs
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>tfw so many map ideas
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I'm sorry but BF4 had farrrr better maps than BF3.

You can tell when the only maps being played on BF3 is shitty metro
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>>342006701
>Skill ceiling
>Go prone inside a bush and cover an entire corridor with your LMG
>Half the team just sits back on tanks or parachute into difficult to reach places and snipe shit all day
>Shitters dashing away on their vehicles the moment they get one, leaving half the team to walk all the way to the nearest objective
Yeah, sure buddy.

t. someone who played BF3 beta and bought it at launch, who made it top score countless times
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>>341993903
>He never played BC1

I feel bad for you.
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>>342005292
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>>342006875
24/7 domination nose hair canals 200 tickets
shotguns only
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>>342006770
>Tickets now count up instead of counting down.
That's the same exact fucking thing except more confusing to new players

What's the fucking point
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>>342006985
Well, I guess that means that deaths means less now
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>>342006068
>run&gun
>big maps

You would think that people would find the problem before release.
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>>342006948
>he plays fps with a controller

i feel bad for you
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>>342000118
Found the DICE employee
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>>342007162
Good, maybe that will encourage people to play the objective instead of focusing on their K/Ds.
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>There are people that can't play BF4 on ultra at 100fps+
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>>341993291

like all these kids itt didn't even play the games. mostly it comes down to pacing, and gutting suppression. in bf4 you can't control space anymore with covering fire, recon can just corner peak like they were playing and arena shooter or some shit. it's just a faster game in general, and imo worse for it
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>>342006875
Yeah I pretty much love most of BF4's maps

Some of my most favorite are-

>Flood Zone
>Hainan Resort
>Golmud Railway
>Hanger 21
>Operation Whiteout
>Operation Outbreak
>Dragon Valley 2015
>Pearl Market
>Siege of Shanghai
>Paracel Storm
>Silk Road
>Caspian Border 2014
>Gulf of Oman 2014
>Lumphini Garden
>Nansha Strike (servers really dont play this map enough)
>Altai Range
>Giants of Karelia

And maybe Dawnbreaker.
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>>342002519
BF 3 = BC 3
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>>342006942
Don't see what that has to do with skill ceiling. Try again.

t. 2.75 k/d infantry player on bf3 (1.49 KPM)
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>>342007382
>that
>ultra
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>>342007450
>muh k/d
Battlefield isn't about kills alone.
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>>342007509
But it is
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>>342006985
Because psychology. Giving tickets to the winning team feels more rewarding than taking away tickets from the losing team
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>>342007229
>He complains about peripherals

Enjoy your autism.
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>>342007631
>60hz
Yeah silky smooth 100fps am i right :^)
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>>342007410
woops forgot to add Lancang Dam, thats pretty good map too, not a fan of the "dusty" desaturation effect lingering on throughout the match after the Dam breaks though -
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>>342007630
Keep telling yourself that.
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>>341993291
why was bad company 2 so fun but bf3 so terrible?
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>>342007829
>having standards is autism
alright
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>>342007889
- and after dam breaks.
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>>342007410
I always loved Operation Wavebraker with naval assault because
>multiple objectives
>fighting for forts
>fighting inside underground sub base
>best intro music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjl4zydSu-0&list=PLDTr6hNzQoyeHcuNL2h-pAmSLjNIXXFNo&index=22
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>>342007954
>Standards

Okay, friend.
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>>342007903
Battlefield was never about k/d you ignorant shitter. It's about objective control and team coordination. It isn't Quake. I bet you only played squad deathmatch.

Sadly people like you turned it into CoDfest bullshit.
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>>342008083
i mean standards might be foreign to you if you deliberately choose the inferior option but still
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>>342007205
Noticing their mistakes isn't exactly DICE's strong suit. Neither is fixing those mistakes after they get pointed out. They're pretty good at asset creation, I'll give them that though.

>>342007410
Fuck all the maps with roof-tops that you can place spawn beacons on. Adding verticality is great, but not when there's only one way to higher spaces. Spawn beacons are far to hard to find or get to on some maps compared to how easy it is to replace them.
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best BF3 vid coming through
https://youtu.be/KC6yb7HN1LA?t=6
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>>342007987
Hell yeah, Wavebreaker and Nansha strike are my two favorite NS maps, but whenever I find a NS server or the server rotates to a NS map its almost always Operation Mortar or Lost Islands which aren't as good.
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>>342008329
montages are gay as fuck
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>>342007925
Because you're a console casual kid

Only fucking casuals and 15 year olds liked BC2
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>>342008248
You claim to have standards but you're some elitist with no self respect rather than being idort.

Whatever helps you sleep, kiddo.
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>>342008339
if it weren't for the filename, I wouldn't be able to tell if this was BF3 or BF4
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>>342008256
>Spawn beacons are far to hard to find or get to on some maps compared to how easy it is to replace them.

Yep, I think spawn beacons the way DICE implemented them in BF4 are seriously flawed, the only way to find some is by fucking noise of the beeps which is nothing compared to all the noise of battle around you, they can get so fucking annoying.

Speaking of spawn beacons there was an indestructible one on the map once, dont know what was up with that, nothing could destroy it
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>>342007925
nostalgia?

bf3 was my first bf and after it i went back to bc2, bf2 and 1942. bc2 is fucking inferior in every way except destruction but total destruction wasn't exactly a good thing
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>>342008494
>HUD in the bottom middle
Also pretty sure BF3 didnt have carrier assault, cant remember though
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>>341993291
>bf3
>no destruction
>good
>bf4
>levolution gimmick trash
>good
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>>341993291
>shitdield 3 was good
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>>342008490
controller is objectively inferior and painful method for playing fps games

if you were an actual idort you'd know that
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who /cinematic tools/ here
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>>342008765
I do know that. But that doesn't mean I can't have fun with it.
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>>342008782
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>>342008494
If you have played both games for at least an hour the hud is the first thing you notice
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>>342008889
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>>342008981
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>>342009072
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>>342008136
>No one uses voip
>Voip only goes between squad members
>Can't queue up with more than 1 squad
>Minimap shows everything
>Dorito Markers
"Team coordination"

The game was clearly designed for solo play. You 1:1 scrub
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>>342009072
Night time screenshots like these just look like absolute shit without global illumination.
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>>342009162

>>342009195
I'll illuminate you
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>>342009193
If it was designed for solo play then why have squads?
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>>342009281
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because:
the maps were better overall even with stuff like metro
vehicles were still a threat
only 2 classes could deal with armor
slightly less inflated with gadets and guns
gunplay felt more "battlefield" than 4
from my experience people played the match more in 3 to win than racking up kills like in 4

they will never ever remove the problem of snipers being miles away in a corner and that will always bother me make them battle pick ups scattered around the map rather than 5 - 8 players choosing to snipe
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>>342008415
why? they're basically highlight reels. Some of them can be pretty great if they use proper music that suits the game. You should stop being so closed minded
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>>342009383
>gunplay felt more "battlefield" than 4
until someone shoots back and your bullets start leaving the barrel in a 90 degree angel
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>>342009378
>tfw flooding the map is the only user input we have on the maps of BF4 without a map editor
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>>342009427
serious montages are boring. comedic ones like the suppression one posted here or a jihad c4 suicide montages are infinitely more entertaining
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>>342009632
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>>342006068
Bullshit shitter lies .
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>>342009737
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>>342009841
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>>342008529
The larger squad size, wide open maps, less restive beacon placement combined with being able to parachute in on beacons really fucked up a lot of the maps. The only way to control areas with numbers since you can spawn basically anywhere.

I think that's what made the game so frustrating to me.
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>>342010001
I wish servers had the option to disable spawn beacons entirely, not just disable spawn on all squad members option
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>all the BC2 nostalgia fags who don't even own bf3/4 or even played bf4 after its first year

Cool meme guys, BF4 is the pinnacle of the series now, except it's maps are mediocre, wish they brought over those middle eastern maps from BF3 with the light vehicles, those were cash.
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Wheres my anime Battlefield game?
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>>342010092
>or even played bf4 after its first year
That's a weird qualification

Why should a person arbitrarily pick up a game after a year has passed if they didn't like it in the year prior?
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>>342009383
>they will never ever remove the problem of snipers being miles away in a corner
They are attempting to in BF1

Bullet drag is being introduced so now if you try to fire a long way you will have to add in another variable such as you bullet dropping velocity at range as well as snipers all having a one shot kill sweet spot at a certain range which differs for each rifle
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Time to play some more BF4

but first this
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>still playing this shit

LMAO
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>>342005004
>Rush
Nothing of value was lost.
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>>342010293
lots of people have picked it up it has been on sale many times for as low as 5 bucks i think

the reason nobody liked bf4 on release was because it wasn't a bad game, it flat out didn't work crashing all the time with no survivors. if that is fixed why not pick it up
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>>342010506
>not playing this shit when its at its best since release

LMAO
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reminder of bf3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxsbTjPe2fs


and that ww1 was fucking hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Pd527GN48
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>>342009831
Stronger suppression in 3, larger squads giving more spawn options in 4, objectives being more open/having more entry points in 4. Won't deny being a shitter though.

>>342010293
It took a year to fix 4's major problems. Like it took a year for BC2's offensively bad netcode to get replaced.
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>>341997964
>tfw in queque to play right now
this game is fun as fuck
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>>342010670
I thought people only used kys ironically. Weebshits never let me down
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>>342005292
too lazy for screenshot
1.58 kd
1.3k spm
154h
54% wins
9830 kills
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>>341999692
>tfw have all battlefields (3,4,hardline) on PS3
>on PC it's just 3 and 4
>i actually like all games except 3
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>>342011219
what does hardline have that 4 doesn't? serious question hardline just seems to have less stuff in it than 4

the car chase mode is fun but that's it
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BF4 is a better infantry shooter than CoD now. Let that sink in.

Also, it doesn't get discussed on /v/ at all because it's unanimously agreed to be good and fun.

Amazing graphics+performance as well. It's TECHNOLOGY: The Game and it actually works.
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>>342011336
BF3 was already a better infantry shooter. I played a lot of those close quarter maps.
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>>341993291
Less guns and complexity as well as faster gameplay
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>>342011463
>BF3
>Faster than BF4
Consoleshitter pls
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>>342005292
shoudn't have done this
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>>342007382
i'm sorry if i have this $300 laptop dude
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>>342011297
yeah,wasn't a big loss
except all my friends on origin play it and like it more than 4
and i'm brazzillian
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>>342002519
People got mad about Titanfall because the "campaign" was shoehorned into the multiplayer.
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>>342011598
Good emblem senpai
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>>342005292
i don't really play that much
but i think i'm rank 40-something on console and it's on a separate account

here's my PC one though
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>>341999205
>still got 20k players
it will hold at least a year, right?
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>>341996908
>you can't name anything that isn't cod, halo or titanfall
Please be troll
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>>342012026
also, meme emblem
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