Come here, kitty kitty kitty.VtMB thread
>be ex Interplay employees that created Fallout and Arcanum
>leave Interplay to start your own studio. Troika
>spend a huge portion of the companies return from their previous work licensing the next-gen Source Engine from Valve
>Valve gives them a build of source from 1999 and pretends it's a 2002 build
>Valve refuses to provide any documentation or respond to their queries on engine functionality (anyone who has worked with Valve knows they treat business partners the same way they treat people who use steam support), takes Valve a fucking year after the sale to even give the devs the broken level editor that they paid for
>Valve refuses to allow Troika to launch VTMB before HL2 despite knowing their contract with Activision had stated they needed a xmas 2003 release from the minute Troika licensed the engine
>Valve blatantly violates their contract with Troika by finally providing troika with a 2001 version of Source in 2003 to replace the 1999 version given to them in 2002
>this is speculated to be a result of paranoia from the HL2 leak
>refuses to give them the current build of Source until HL2 releases despite Troika planning to release VTMB on the same fucking day
>Troika is unable to negotiate pushing back the release date a second time because of their notoriously shitty publisher
>Troika spends 6 months sitting with their dicks in their hands not being able to develop or bug test the game on an old engine
>Troika finally gets valve to give them a near-current build of source on the same day the game goes gold
>Troika has about 12 hours to port the game to the new engine and attempt to bug test it
>to add the ultimate insult to injury, on the DAY Half-Life 2 releases, Valve quietly changes their mind about publishing VTMB on Steam, the only way the devs could get a day 1 patch out to people that bought the fucking game
>game is a fucking disaster, literally impossible to complete as certain classes because of crashes
Why do people love Valve?
>>341991673
They do big sales once in a while. I wish I was making this shit up.
>>341991673
No shit Valve would sabotage it.
Jeanette > other slut
Prove me wrong.
>>341992294
Pisha > other good girls > Jeanette > other slut
>Best girl Damsel only has like 4 lines of dialogue in the entire game
What a fucking injustice
>>341992473
You wanna talk food, then lets talk fuckin food.
I'll straight eat the back half of a goat while the front half still breathin motherfucker you skinny faggots wanna talk food lets fuckin talk food you pussy bitches
got my teeth cut the fuck out and replaced with teflon coated titanium bitch I got a thirteen million dollar artificial intelligence bionic swallow muscle designed by nasa that can straight push an unplucked turkey down my fuckin throat fuckin feet and all you fuckin busters
sometimes I order like three/four double quarter pounders and walk out into the parking lot and just start whippin em at passing police cars I don't give a shit the cops know I eat taser electricity like a german eats mustard that shits like fuckin parsley to me
the sun don't set bitch, I just get hungry at dusk
>>341991565
I want to fuckTherese
How do we improve Brujah and Toreador gameplay?
Compared to the other clans, these two have no unique abilities of their own and are pretty much the generic guys of the Camarilla
>>341992794
It's all about how you roleplay with them. If you read the lore behind both of these clans it will tremendously help you understand what these clans are about and what they can do, which in turn helps you get into character every time you play them. They don't have to have unique disciplines to be interesting.
>>341991565
self admitting pleb here, why have i never been able to get into this game? was it because in high school i didn't want to pry myself from Lord of Destruction and Enemy Territory? i tried to play it again around 2010 or so, still really couldnt get into it
there are always compelling arguments for the game, it just doesnt grab me like other games
>>341993717
Nothing wrong with not being able to pry yourself from LoD. Everyone has gone through that phase once or twice.
How far did you get when you played VTMB? At which mission did you drop it?
No reason to feel bad if you can't get into it, some RPGs just don't appeal to everyone.
>>341993717
For starters, did you get into Deus Ex well?
>>341993717
It's because you don't use capital letters and omit dots at the end of sentences. Improve your grammar discipline, then try to play it again.
I'm about to run my first VtM chronicle with a group of friends who are also newbies.
Wish me luck and throw me a tip or two if you want.
>>341994053
got to santa monica, don;t remember what point i dropped it. it was over a decade ago
>>341994170
i did, the first deus ex, didn't play the newer ones
>>341994175
2/10
>>341992794
They both have Celerity, don't they? Toreador has Auspex as well, that's a pretty broken combination.
You can even sink all your points into the social feats with Toreador. Honestly, they're an 8/10 clan.
>>341994394
All signs point to you needing to play it again. If you dropped it very early, you didn't really get to experience the better parts. There's also a strong correlation between liking Deus Ex (original) and VTMB so I'd say you should certainly try it again.
>>341994628
alright anon, on your recommendation, it's still on my steam from numerous years ago so i'll give it a go this weekend
>>341994750
Don't forget to install the latest version of the Unofficial Patch, or else you're gonna have a bad time.
>>341994361
Tip: Take medication for your autism, tabletop RPGs are literally in your head aspie.
>m-my brawny warrior hits on the busty barmaid
>roll 20 for sex appeal
>>341994881
Hi, how is it like being 12?
>>341994361
The combat system is garbage, pure garbage
>>341994864Basic or Plus?
>>341996197
Basic for 1st playthrough, Plus for extra content in the next playthroughs.
Paradox is just gonna ruin any potential new game arent they
>>341992794
You've clearly never done a pure guns Toreador run, it's one of the most fun builds in the game. Ventrue is the most boring clan by a long shot.
>>341996589
DLC! DLC everywhere!
But it's OK becasue it's only cosmetics!
>>341994361
Have an old pasta I had made for /tg
For me Vampire games run at the intersection of four styles:
- The mundane, small; inconsequential and generally emotionally charged (rarest and toughest to get, but oh so satisfying when you do).
- The pure serial melodrama (takes a bit of time to set up, but then it's an always in motion engine if you know how to push it, just watch your usual soap opera, will get you started on the structure).
- The gonzo super-hero of the the night shenanigans (you don't want too much of this but I do think it plays a huge role in blowing pressure off the other three - it's empowering, it's silly and fun and doesn't take itself seriously. It makes the rest bearable and actually enhances it by contrast).
- The investigative horror about the otherworldly and the unknown (in which what you don't say is probably more important than you do; it lies on having enough space to make an echo chamber big enough that the assumptions of the players can partially fill it - so a decently defined background with a lot of incertitude helps).
The basic thing to get I'd say is framing.
Porn?
>>341998331
Personally, I take a few sessions at the start to work the player characters, know their background, their secondary characters (in my opinion the human secondary characters are probably more important than the other Vampires on that front, but may just be me), and intertwine it all.
Why are the PC working together; who are the people that support them ? Who are the people that depend on them ? Who are they indebted to ? Where do they live and how is the neighborhood ? How and where do they feed ? How accustomed are they to being a vampire ? Who do they know ? What does it mean to them ? Let the first session just be about that; let the actions of your players define their characters.
Then start manipulating things, add small events and subplots that moves those things around - soap opera style. How come that PC's mother, after that long joblessness slump has just been offered a great job in a company owned by that fucking Ventrue you insulted during the first session ? What is that statue you found in your haven, and who put it there ? Who's the bastard killing people in your neighborhood making your feeding hell ?
>>341998520
Quite quickly, the PCs are going to get tangled in a web of their own making. Small debts and daily common hatreds and the pressures to live with one another.
That's when you can send the heavy hitters. The Sabbat Attack. The disappearance of the prince and the ensuing chaos. The quest for that one mcguffin that leads to weird places they wouldn't have noticed though they were so close.
Give those big events room to breath, but don't forget to keep tab on the little things, and once in a while use one of the smaller subplots defined at the start to change the mood so that it does not turn into a one-note session.
Repeat the cycle until you and your players think it's ok to leave it at that - that you've reached a satisfying point and it's time to try other characters or games.
There, hope it was useful.
>>341991673
source
My PC is loading too fast.
Is there a site where I can read up all the lore it's depicting on the loading screen?
Can someone post that picture with all the Clan information thats usually posted on /v/ please?
Any mods I can use to make the game seem at least somewhat fresh after I've finished it with all clans except Toreador, Brujah, and Gangrel?
>>341996692
>Ventrue is the most boring clan by a long shot.
Get out
>>341991565
Thinking about them and their role in general and they are pretty pathetic characters in the bigger context.
Therese plays politics in a city, that is void of Vampires. She is an Anarch baron that fancies herself switching to the Camarilla and become prince instead. The thing is, I don't think Nines will care about Santa Monica that much or even know initially who Therese Voerman is. Even the Cathayan implied as much, calling you the most competent kindred of SM and if not for you, the entire hub would be overrun by Kuei-Jin.
Jeanette on the other hand obviously plays you by the finger, evident by instantly switching mood from begging to business, when you don't give her what she wants. Also she gives you 3/5, one above Bertram, the fucking nerve!
And in the end, it really doesn't matter what happens to them. It doesn't affect any endings and telling their secret to Bertram, Becket and Jack will be met with either indifference or "yee I knew it".
>>341999971
Dont know if you're still here but here it is, Anon.
>>341991565
>mfw fighting the Sheriff, jumping over his sword sweeps
>>342000864
Thanks anon
Am I the only one whose never Frenzied before?
>>342000864
>Nosferatu cant do half the quests, have to use the sewers all the time and suck at speech skills
>Bonus is being able to feed on rats
Who thought that was a good idea?
>>341991565
>Tfw you will never get a lap dance from VV in the back of a sketchyvLA strip club while telling her all your hopes and dreams.
>>342000864
Does someone have the patch log(s) for the True Patch?
I tried Wesp's Unofficial Patch, but even the Basic version felt more like a mod than a real patch and I want to read through it first, before I throw myself at another adventure.
>>341994881
No need to get mad over a game of pretend. I dont get mad at you when you pretend youre relevant, after all.
>>342001564
>Who thought that was a good idea?
Khaine
![xOasShD[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eZ47sq0.jpg "xOasShD[1].jpg")
>tfw a vamp will never succ you
>tfw you'll never be a creature of the night
>tfw stuck in normie mode for the rest of your life
>>342001407
I played a Gangrel during my first playthrough, mixing combat with stealth. I Frenzied a few times.
>>342002408
>you will never feed on and bring literally-better than-sex pleasure to a girlor a boy if thats you like
just fucking end it all
>>342002408
>stuck being a Masquerade vampire
Fuck that, I would rather be anything besided the elders and ancillae's bottom bitch.
>>342002408
>tfw vamp sucks you
>tfw you become a creature of the night
>tfw you are still stuck in the basement
>>342002408
>Implying Gehenna hasn't been and gone
lol
>>342002790
>Gehenna was just some ancient streetshitting pajeet running around India sucking up brown vampires and brown folk for a couple weeks
>explained away on the TV as a natural disaster and then nothing came from it
>I watched this shit on CNN and nothing else happened
Well now that its over I am guessing since that guy did it, diablerie is legal? Time to up my blood generation. Other than that though, doesnt seem like theres much to look forward to.
So did Gary just hate LaCroix, or did he hate the idea of being a prince in general?
>>342002408
>implying you'd want to be vampire NEET
At some point you'd have to go out and try to get some blood. If you thought social contact was hard before add on top of that you now how to actually get someone's attention so you can feed on them and not kill them. It's no surprise that most new vampires don't make it past first two weeks, majority dying by sunlight because they can't take it.
>>342003251
Gehenna got cancelled in the anniversary edition anyway.
>>342003442
I can just travel north to scotland and feed on the rural types.
>>342003442
>not just getting a ghoul who works for you and brings bloodpacks home
It's like you don't know how to be a proper leech.
>>342003442
Plenty of hobos in my city
>You will never be pisha's effeminiate vampyr slaveboy
why even bother living
I'm jealous of people who have never played this game before.
