http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/ubisoft-we-believe-nx-will-recapture-the-wii-audience/0168585
At least Breath of the Wild is also on Wii U, right /v/?
>>341990875
They're right. The same amount of people who purchased the Wii/Wii-U will purchase the NX: zero.
>>341991027
so about 2,000?
>Wii
>not PS4
Ubisoft: We'll give the NX lipservice now, but will be one of the first studios to abandon it when we see how fucking underpowered it is.
>>341990875
Well at least this time people won't be confused about the name.
>Wii
>implying the Wii audience still exists
Where were (You) when the NX died before it was born?
>>341990875
>Ubisoft is up to supporting Nintendo a second time
>Nintendo will, again, be retarded, make a pointless gimmick that no one will care about and make an underpowered console, driving third parties and people, away from their console a third generation in a row
>>341991738
The Wii audience exists, the problem is that they are all too entertained by Candy Crush and Flappy Bird.
>>341990875
I fucking love this picture so much.I'm a Nintendo fan btw.
>>341991110
>100 million customers
>40 million customers
>>341990875
I'm sorry but I think it's time for someone to take Nintendo out back and put them down.
They're too far gone.
Literally all Nintendo has to do is put out something that is between a PS4 and a PS4K in terms of power, price it fairly so that it's not underpowered compared to a PC of the same price, use a non gimmick controller, and not charge for online. They have tons of money saved up from the Wii/DS success, they could afford to sell the NX at a small loss to make it up in software sales if they needed to in order to recapture marketshare.
Reminder: The NX is a tablet portable, that doesn't compete with the WiiU or the 3DS.
It only "plays" Breath of the Wild in that it can also function as a compatible tablet controller for the WiiU.
>>341992390
>They have tons of money saved up from the Wii/DS success
>I have no idea how business works
>>341992497
Maybe the NX is the successor to the 3DS and not the WiiU and we've been memed on this whole time
>>341992537
The point is to reinvest your profit so you can expand your business and make even more profit.
Nintendo, I speak for everyone on /v/ when I say just go third party.
>>341992080
90% of the 100 million went to smart phones and tablets. They should go after ps4. Thats where the current market is
>>341990875
Just call it a day and stick to hand-held + 3rd party
Stop embarrassing yourself with home consoles Nintendo
>>341992390
There's no point in Nintendo spending money on hardware, I have no idea why people expected the NX to have any sort of real horsepower to it.
Even if Nintendo made a competing console with strong hardware third party companies won't be interested because there's just no ecosystem for their games there and they aren't really interested in trying to grow one. You will NEVER get Western AAA's on Nintendo hardware, no matter how strong it is. The Gamecube was much more powerful than the PS2, who had more games, though?
It makes sense for Nintendo to after a different market, it's just not news most gaming forums want to hear because that means that they aren't focusing on the core market. But the core market isn't interested in Nintendo and the company will just continue to lose money should they try to keep forcing themselves in.
>>341990875
New hardware isn't gonna do shit. They've been pushing new hardware almost every year since the Wii released.
What we need is fucking games. They show nothing anymore. 2 fucking games this E3. Nintendo used to have tons of games on their consoles, 3rd party games, more Nintendo exclusives, etc. All that shit is gone.
And the games they release now, most of them are lousy. Little kids don't even want them. They used to be cutting edge. Pikmin was cutting edge, F-Zero was cutting Edge, Mario Kart was cutting edge, etc. Pikmin 3 isn't, F-Zero is dead, Mario Kart isn't, their Super Mario Bros. games are fun for real little kids and girls but there's no replayability to any of them, and these games just aren't enough.
>>341992790
You mean back when a game didn't need to release on all platforms to barely break even?
The market changed, nintendo will never recapture that Wii audience, or like >>341992605 said, it's not a successor to the Wii U.
>>341992605
>Breath of the Wild in my pocket
>>341991918
This. The "Wii audience" was soccer moms buying a console for their bratty children because they finally saw a way for their children to move while playing video games.
Those people are playing facebook and mobile games now.
>>341993159
The point is power =/= third party. A powerful nx still would get no third party support.
>>341993703
It's odd because at the WiiU's inception they had a decent 3rd part lineup going on
guess the industry is full of benedict arnolds
>you lived long enough to see the death of nintendo
feels great.
>>341994158
Some companies didn't really try too hard and the ones that did didnt get the results they wanted.
I believe Ubisoft when they say that.
>>341994264
>you lived long enough to see the death of Europe
feels bad man
>>341990875
>Ubisoft
>Wii audience
Fucking death flags
>>341994603
Don't worry Russia will save Europe from American tyranny once again
>>341994603
>you lived long enough to see a big amount of shootings in America
Feels great!
To be fair, the Wii was probably their biggest success. I see people who don't know what video games are with Wii's still plugged into their TVs. Nintendo seems to be more suited to the casual/family market nowadays anyway.
>>341992985
They showed off 3, Ever Oasis is a new IP
You're right though about games not really pushing the edge any more, they're playing catch-up.
The closest they've gotten in years is Mario Kart 8 having YouTube support and Legend of Zelda being open world, but those are both trends the other consoles are already on top of, they're just pushing the boundaries for nintendo
The wii audience only plays mobile games now, and the wii was filled with shovelware.
>>341994993
biggest hardware success maybe but they sold an average of like 0.8 games per console on wii
There must be someone high up in Ubisoft who has a real soft spot for Nintendo.
Given their support on Wii/Wii U. Not only giving them some third party support out of the gate to give them a leg up at launch. But building games from the ground up, utilizing whatever hardware they're pushing. See Redsteel1/2, Rabbids games, ZombiU etc.
Of course they bite the bullet and abandon ship eventually because it doesn't turn out financially feasible. But they always try to give it a big push.
WHEN THE FUCK ARE THEY GONNA REVEAL THE NX???
>>341994993
Wii U has some of the best hardcore games of the generation (Bayonetta 2, Wonderful 101, Xenoblade X, DKC: Tropical Freeze), and Wii had loads of amazing niche games (Sin & Punishemnt 2, Little King's Story, Pandora's Tower, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom)
>>341990875
>least Breath of the Wild
>last Breath of the Wild
>last Breath of the Wii
>>341993270
why are you so excited? its not like you are going out of your basement anyways
>>341994158
There where many problems with the NX. The main one was the fact that newer games where being made with x86 in mind and the WiiU was still using PowerPC. As the generation went on, they lost support as devs didn't want to spend extra time making a port for antiqued architecture.
How would /v/ react if the NX failed as miserably as the Wii U? can Nintendo survive after two lousy console generations?
>>341995517So I can play it while taking a shiton your mom's chest.
>>341995653
they can burn money for 10 generations
hell they didn't even lose money on the WiiU
>>341990875
> Ubisoft: We believe NX will recapture the Wii audience
So its true then, nintendo will join sony. Its all over.
>>341991027
>Wii/Wii-U
You do know the Wii was one of the best selling consoles of all time, right? It sold over 100,000,000 copies worldwide.
>>341994839
good one, ahmed
>>341995980
>they didn't even lose money on the WiiU
Iwata too a huge paycut to avoid layoffs, i'd say they lost money, i agree that Nintendo's got cash to burn though
>>341992497
The Sheikah tablet was most likely from when BotW was still planned to be a Wii U exclusive, when people like Aonuma still thought the tablet controller was a cool idea.
It's just a relic from a previous concept for the game, it doesn't really mean anything with regards to the NX.
>>341995653
they'll just some more plastic toys
>>341991216
>underpowered
That's only because ubisoft can't downgrade their games any further than normal
if this shit is backwards compatible with wii/wiiu games, i might buy one day 1, if not, ill wait and see, but i might get one eventually anyway since i missed out on the wiiu
>>341995653
>mfw I don't give a shit about home consoles
>mfw the next Nintendo handheld will be the only handheld console of the gen, as Sony is not going to make another one
Feels good. For me, Nintendo can stop making home consoles now.
>>341992790
The gamecube was not much more powerful than the ps2 and was actually less costly to make
>We believe everyone will buy the NX just for Zelda and nothing else
>>341990875
>We believe NX will recapture the Wii audience
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>>341996794
Depends on how you define power. On paper not much more powerful, true. But for the time IBM gave them a really good custom CPU and sans programmable shaders the GPU with its fixed function lighting/shading and programmable TEV was pretty darn impressive tech given the low cost. Not much went to waste and it was well-balanced versus the wasteful expensive PS2 with its exotic hardware that wasn't easy to program for
What was the exact point where Nintendo got it wrong?
For me it wasn't even the Wii, it was the GCN.
If you actually read that marketing manager's account of his time at NoA trying to market the GameCube, you'll get an insight into what I mean. There was a tremendous amount of hubris, arrogance and anger towards Sony - A lot of Nintendo staff seriously couldn't believe that "gaming" was becoming synonymous with another brand and platform and just stuck their heads in the sand as a result.
Nintendo first party brand titles still have a tremendous amount of brand power, but so do a lot of multiplats these days. And Nintendo is relying more and more on a small but sizable core of gamers to purchase their first party titles over and over again. You actually saw bits of this back in the gamecube era when the attitude was from NoA staff that Nintendo fans would buy whatever they shat out so they didn't really have to think much about it anyway. That core base is slowly but surely dwindling.
Interesting to see how arrogant Reggie was as well. Amazing that guy has kept his position for so long.
>>341995368
Xcx is casual trash tier. Controls are as bad as combat
>>341992643
>I hate Nintendo!
>They should go 3rd party so I can play Nintendo games on my PS4!
>>341995368
TW101 is fun, but it isn't one of the greatest games of the generation. XCX was horribly underwhelming, I was expecting so much more.
>>341995257
>There must be someone high up in Ubisoft who has a real soft spot for Nintendo.
>>341992790
It is true though the dreamcast sold as much as the gc in half the time
>>341997518
I'm glad he's dead. He opposed Sony and he went down.
Thus ever for all enemies of Sony. Miyamoto is next.
>>341992790
>It makes sense for Nintendo to after a different market
What "different market"? They've been subsisting off of a core base of dwindling hardcore fanboys (think Dobson, Moviebob and GaijinGoombah) for a while now and the younger generation have other brands they're familiar with, they're not as attached to Nintendo as kids 15-20 years ago were.
>>341995653
Nintendo could probably survive another two or three bombs, honestly. Their handheld and amiibo departments are still holding the company strong regardless of how little profit the consoles make.
It's not like Sega, where they made baffling business decisions at literally every step and collapse in on themselves.
>>341997518
not that high up
>>341996059
The vast majority of Wii Customers were Soccer Moms and old people who bought the Wii + Wii Sports/Wii Fit. Played it for 6 months and then put it into the attic.
Those people then moved onto Candy Crush on their iPhones because they're casual gamers.
A console isn't going to get them back.
>>341990875
Says the publisher that will be the first one to jump ship.
>>341997675
>could probably survive another two or three bombs
Business doesn't work like that, you don't cross-subsidize something at a loss unless you see it as a loss-leader in some form.
Remember that Nintendo's costs for the Wii U weren't just the per-unit manufacturing costs, but a whole bunch of other marketing, R&D and other ancillary costs alongside that, so the per-unit cost only tells part of the story.
>nintendo still dreams every night of repeating the Wii success
How sad. It's also quite ironic that doing everything to repeat the Wii success will be the reason nintendo will have no success with the NX.
>>341997878
In their defense, Ubi are some of the few that have any faith left to enter the ship in the first place.
>>341990875
isn't that bad? wasn't the Wii's main audience like housewives wanting to get fit?
>>341997875
Hi Fester. Getting a lot of work damage controlling after E3, huh?
You still think theyre trying to come up with an actual name for the nx before reveal? i just feel atleast 40% sure theyll give it another wii name. I dont think anybody, but Iwata knew what the nx even stands for
>>341998071
The last 2 generations of Nintendo
Ubisoft: We have great faith in Nintendos new console! It's going to rule! Here's 4 shitty games that bomb.
>1 year later
Wii/Wii U? Fuck that.
Hypothetically speaking, if the NX was overpriced but had monstrous power, would you buy it?
>NeoFAGs are this fucking desperate to get people to stop talking about Zelda
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I don't trust Ubisoft more than Nintendo themselves desu
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/12/nx_wont_be_the_next_version_of_wii_or_wii_u_says_nintendo_president_tatsumi_kimishima
>Those people then moved onto Candy Crush on their iPhones because they're casual gamers.
>The Wii audience exists, the problem is that they are all too entertained by Candy Crush and Flappy Bird.
>90% of the 100 million went to smart phones and tablets
>Those people are playing facebook and mobile games now.
>The wii audience only plays mobile games now
Get ready for your dicks and crows anons
>>341998274
i would definitely wait a while. i got burned with the Wii U.
>>341998156
>he thinks the Wii wasn't just a fluke which captured the casual market before Smartphone gaming became accepted by the masses which caused Nintendo to fuck over their core consumer base by constantly chasing the casual market that never came back
>>341998175
I figured it was a contraction of "Next"
I could see space for Nintendo to make a move on a larger market, but it would require Nintendo and Valve to work together. It would be interesting to see Nintendo serve as a counter-force to Microsoft in the realm of PC gaming.
Welp, the nx might as well be confirmed to be all their unsold wii u's in a new casing. Chances are theyre gonna try and create a new brand.
>>341998440
Well that sure doesn't seem like a reply to what I said. Here let me help you out:
Hi Fester. Getting a lot of work damage controlling after E3, huh?
>>341998581
Note: This will 100% never happen, but I like to delude myself.
>>341992497
Fucking delusional. NX is a new console, Nintendo has painted this quite clearly for us
>Scorpio is going to be much more powerful than the Neo
>Zelda captured absolutely everybody's attention
>Sony dragged the beaten and battered corpse of Crash Bandicoot and God of War on stage and pissed on them
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>>341998818
This, Reggie has straight up called it a home console but retards don't listen
