Better or worse that DS3?
>>341977334
DAS<BB=DES<DS3<DS2
>>341977334
Both great, I prefer dark souls combat though.
BB > DaS > Nioh demo > DaS 3 > DeS > DaS 2 > Not playing videogames > Lords of the Fallen
>>341977334
Worse in my opinion, but don't expect any decent discussion about it.
Much better. New location, new enemies and no retarded "age of fire" plotline.
Well the only game worse than DaS3 is DaS2.
Dark Souls always has that "look at these enemies you'll need to defeat" intro crap.
>>341977671
DeS > DaS > DaS3 > BB > LotF > NiOh demo > DaS2
Anyone still playing it? I'm in the Unseen Village at level 56 and my saw is ridiculously underpowered.
Better than most of the all released videogames
>>341977860
I returned to it yesterday, using shitty weapons I had never used before.
Saw remains OP throughout the game, as does the Axe. They're just 2gud for PvE.
>>341977334
Played it for the first time yeserday, about 2 hours on my friend's PS4. It's literally as good as Dark Souls 3, and that means they are 2 of the best souls games.
I take down armored trolls and wolfmen with ease but I am filled with dread every time I spot even one of those death dealers with the bag slung over their backs. They kill my so effortlessly.
How to kill Orphan of kos. His first phase is easy but it's his second phase that gets me.
>>341978443
It's better than rehash souls 3
>>341978953
How?
>>341979203
its ps4 exclusive :^)
>>341979203
Original world and weapons, plot that isn't fire and cycles for the 3rd time, less linear progression (more optional areas), larger movesets and more fluid combat
and for the record I did enjoy DS3. hopefully the DLC is old hunters tier
>>341979645
Yeah, I should really play more of it
>>341979645
doesnt BB have a smaller pool of weapons than dark souls 3?
>>341979863
Significantly smaller, but each has a larger moveset than any in DS3 because of the transformation. And they're generally more interesting
>>341979776
if you do the DLC is essential
>>341979863
Yeah it's way smaller, but the amount of shared movesets is also small. There are no weapon classes in Bloodborne, each weapon is unique. More DMC than Souls in that aspect.
>>341977334
It's equal to ds2, better than ds1 and 3. The dlc is the best content from has ever made. It's amazing and could have been even better if it wasn"t limited by the ps4 hardware. Also except for Ludwig and Orphan the game feels easier than other from games. Still, 9/10 game and I want a sequel.
>>341981106
>It's equal to ds2
>better than ds1 and 3
>implying ds2 is better than 3
>>341981158
It is. Ds3 improves on a shitload of aspects over 1 and 2, but the game felt too short, not enough secrets and secret locations, not enough armors, and a shitload of assets are straight from Bloudbourne. I loved the game but it feels dissapointing. We'll have to wait for the dlc.
OR, the game is actually filled with secret shit that nobody has discovered yet. And the hub is meh compared to Majula.
>>341977334
It's easily the best in the series and the only really good game in the series. If it were on PC, it would be a contender for one of the best games ever.
>>341977334
>it's another Souls ranking thread
Just fucking stop OP, these threads are the cancer of the souls fanbase
>>341977334
>Better or worse that DS3?
My opinion>your opinion
Worse, there is so little meat to bloodborne.
>>341977334
Pve/atmosphere/world is better
Das3 has the better pvp however.
Why do people find the hotdog annoying? It's a pretty piss easy fight, just slap it a few times in its ass, back off when it's about to explode and never stand in front of it in case it charges.
>>341981504
never
Whatever you think of BB, I think that we can ALL agree that it has the best setting and OST in the series
>>341981768
Honestly, I wish there was a difficulty option or a covenant to turn the main game into an FRC Chalice. The FRC versions of bosses are where the game really shines, and practically nobody sees them.
>>341981852
And the best narrative.
And the best movesets.
And the best enemies.
And the best atmosphere.
Etc.
>>341982034
>best narrative
I hope you're talking about lore, and not the lores presentation, because BB veered way too far into the unnecessarily cryptic territory. Just doing something like including boss souls would have gone a long way to clearing up a lot of stuff
everyone suddenly stops talking about ds3 a week after release, people still talk about bloodbourne 5 years after release
>>341982638
Narrative and plot presentation aren't the same thing. In many cases it's isn't obvious what the narrative is, thus the phrase underlying narrative and overarching plot.
>>341982754
>5 years after release
>5 years
BB/DaS1 > DaS3 > DeS > will play 2 later
>>341984840
I don't know how anybody can rate DaS1 over DaS3 with its broken af PVE. Easy chain backstabs and parries galore. The whole thing is pretty much redundant. It beats DaS3 in every other way like world and atmosphere etc but sadly its PVE is plain fucking broken.
Where do I take my build from here? I just killed Rom.
>>341984960
i've honestly never regularly used parries, and only started occasionally using them in 3
>>341985018
>Arcane: 54
>>341977334
IMO better, but DaS3 is still fantastic.
>>341985018
more arcane
>>341977334
why can't Sony just give us a fucking date for ps4k? and why can't they tell us about new fromsoft exclusives? I want an excuse to buy a ps4
>>341985018
Might as well go full arcane ayy lmao build. So go do the dlc
>>341985703
>>341985882
>>341986480
I did it.
How do I get good arcane gems? I've got a solid Fire-Cleaver, but my ArCane only has a single shitty gem on it, can't even use Noirishing because they use the same slot.
I'm up to Central Pthumuru in the chalice dungeons and I'm getting 1-2 shot by the lowliest mobs.
Bloodborne is the best when you look at things objectively.
All Soulsborne games are fantastic (even DS2 with DLC included) but Bloodborne was on a different level.
>didn't feel like a rehash like DS3
>didn't feel dated like Demon Souls
>50% of it wasn't complete trash like Dark Souls 1
>the base game/bosses weren't mediocre like DS2
>>341977334
one more vote for better
>>341977334
Can't say without the DS3 DLC.
>>341987383
>10 vitality
>61 arcane
>>341987509
game is pretty shit after forbidden woods tbqh. Excluding optional areas and DLC of course
Never played BB because I don't have a PS4 but I can't even describe how in love I am with this game. Saw the entire playthrough on youtube twice and I'm amazed. The combat system is how I wanted DS to be. Fast, rewarding the player for being aggressive and no shield bullshit.
The setting is perfect. It has that horror vibe like Bram Stoker's Dracula, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hide, Frankenstein's monster, etc. The whole alien innuendo and blood shit is amazing. It even has werewolves.
God I love this game's style and lore. Can't wait to play it someday and have an actual opinion coming from my own experience with it.
I'd say worse, but quite a lot of my displeasement with it lies in its stylistic choices, I find Lovecrafting horror to be very stupid and lazy. Also lots of mechanical choices I don't appreciate, which I think I can summarize as DaS being RPG with arcade elements, while BB is an arcade game with RPG elements.
>>341988394
>while BB is an arcade game
Explain your point of view, please.
>>341988368
You've probably ruined the experience for yourself by watching it all on youtube first.
Better, fuck I wish I could play it like its my first time playing the game again. Near perfect game if only the fps is better.
>>341988368
>>341988543
I watched two playthroughs on Youtube before I was able to pick up the game (minus the DLC), and I've played the game four times without the DLC and once with the DLC, I don't the Youtube playthroughs will ruin the experience too badly.
>>341988543
I know, anon. But I couldn't resist. Being poor is so fucking terrible. You have all these cool games in front of you but you can't afford to play them. Bloodborne is the Dark Souls that I have ever wanted.
Easily the best one imo.
Liked every Souls but I just love the style in Bloodborne. It's so much more "Tsk, Nuthin Personell" and I love that about it.
Not even baiting.
>>341987854
>Excluding optional areas
So the bulk of the post-forbidden woods content?
Better, obviously. DS3 was a mess.
>FWAAI!
>GRAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
What did this creepy old shitheel mean by this?
Does the The Old Hunters DLC ever go on sale? I'm doing a gun only build but I'm about to finish it soon.
>>341988540
Well, you have one playstyle, which you can modify. You can invest in arcane and its four decently varied spells, you can increase damage of your guns, you can use a slightly slower weapon with larger impact that scales off Str or a light very quick weapon that scales with Skl, and there are armors with different resists stronger than others, but in the end of the day you're the same rogue type that dodges attacks and puts his own in-between, and the arsenal of things you picked up is there to give you additional options. You can't clad yourself in very heavy armor and fight by tanking the damage, you can't play through entire game using guns or spells only, you will always be playing same type of character just with a different looking weapon and maybe an additional type of attack of your choice.
>>341989157
>gun only build
What happens if you run out of bullets?
>>341988991
Why is Gehrmans clothes so fucking cool looking there but complete dogshit when you buy it from the shop?
I thought Dark Souls 3 was a solid game but it's so safe that it's almost forgettable. Even though I think that 3 is better than 2, at least the second game tried to be it's own thing and not just piggyback off of the past games.
3 is this mishmash of themes and ideas from the past games and I guess that just isn't as exciting to me.
>>341989245
you're fucked, you either start over or try to get in a visceral attack with a charged fist attack to get blood echoes and buy more.
>>341989245
You can always drain yourself, unless you're using a weapon that utilizes more than five bullets per shot.
>Got to replay bloodborne
>beat Amelia
>suddenly loose the urge to continue
Why
>>341989268
Because in the cutscene his outfit completely changes before he stands up to put that peg leg up your ass.
It's bullshit, because his new armor looks amazing
>>341989479
Because you've already been through all the best locations and the rest is just tedious.
>>341989245
He can use blood bullets if he hasn't wasted his blood vials. He could also try to fish for visceral and recover bullets if he has the rune equipped.
>>341977860
Yeah I am on ng+
>>341977860
I'm playing it for the first time, the only trophy I have left is Yarhnam, the Pthumerian Queen. Fuck Chalice!Amy, seriously
>>341977334
BB is by far my favorite, no chance in hell it's worse
>>341977671
that is..... worryingly accurate.
FYI new NioH demo in August, now with a new tutotial level, the same 2 previous levels and a new level afterward with the lady rape boss
>>341989479
Forbidden Woods and Nightmare Frontier are both a slog to get though.
>>341990086
Will it be giving mark of the conqueror, or is that exclusive to alpha?
>>341988368
>God I love this game's style and lore
Print this as a giant poster, you'll love it
>>341990225
They might give a different mark this time
no one knows but I doubt it's the same one.
s-sorry anon. You got conquered.
>>341990202
Forbidden Woods is fucking GARGANTUAN, and there are virtually no landmarks to distinguish, unless you like counting giant headstones
>>341990227
Who are these supposed to be?
>>341990323
Oh, I have the mark, I was just afraid they might devalue it.
>>341990343
>Forbidden Woods is fucking GARGANTUAN
Not really, they're about same size as swamp in DaS3, maybe even slightly smaller.
>>341990225
>>341990323
>>341990452
Nah, it was confirmed that the beta demo'll be a second chance to get it if you missed it the first time around.
>>341990565
Maybe it just feels enourmous, due to the minimal amount of shortcuts, and the never ending landscape of fucking trees
Out of the original bosses Daughter of the Cosmos kicked my ass the hardest.
>>341990607
Well shit, fucking casuals.
>>341990696
>That fucking charge
Jesus christ, I refuse to do the Isz chalice for her
>>341990398
Gerhman, Laurence and Maria maybe?
DaS3 > DaS > DeS > DaS2 > BB
>>341990795
I actually beat the alpha demo and forgot to download the mark afterward.
So fuck you, I'm a conqueror.
>>341991107
Even if you didn't download it straight away, the fact you did it gets saved to your PSN account, so you can do it later.
>>341990607
REEEEEEEEE-
I learned to be a TRUE japanese man
I went through HOURs of suffering to master my traditional japanese skills..
..all for NAUGHT!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1dlnqYUEZw
>>341991057
>The game that can't into poise
>The game with stupid bosses like Wyvernn and Yorhm
>Better than BB or DaS
>>341991057
never
>>341991230
>>341991229
But I could never find it on the PSN store and I couldn't get it from the alpha demo main menu after it went offline.
>>341991238
>muh poise
>implying BB and DaS don't have stupid bosses
>those stupid bosses are worse than anything in DaS3 or DaS2
ive never played BB cuz poorfag but honestly, what ive seen, it actually looks like a finished product unlike souls
>>341978748
hit him but also dont get hit by him
>>341991230
I am always impressed when people make their own cosplay. God damn, that actually looks good, and she's got the body to pull it off
>>341991467
Of course they did, Bed of Chaos was retarded. But they never tried to make it gimmicky "muh DeS" like they did in DaS3
Was he worth the hype?
>>341981504
Is this what DaS2 apologists actually believe? Everything you said about 3 was true but it's still better than DaS2.
>>341977334
DaS = BB > DeS = SOTFS > DaS2 > DaS3 > most other videogames
If Bloodborne was on PC it'd be #1. Paid multiplayer is absolutely disgusting, and the PS4 hardware holds it back. Imagine how good it'd look with supersampling and a stable framerate.
>>341978748
Equip both Guidance runes and rely on regain instead of vials. Fight out in the water, it makes it easier to avoid the lightning (there's no edge you can fall off, there's an invisible wall).
>>341981918
>try my first FRC Ihyll at level 150
>first 3 rooms are completely empty
>4th room has a Saw Spear hunter
>ripostes my first attack and one-shots me
Now this is podracing
>>341991347
If you go into your library, the entry for the Nioh alpha demo should have "1 Add On" under it.
>>341992236
Speaking of Guidance, is the Third Tier Guidance rune the Pendant of Bloodborne?
>>341977334
DaSIII = BB > DaS > DeS > DaSII
They won't release any more content for Bloodborne, right? That DLC was cool but I want more.
>bought bloodborne
>beat game on brothers ps4
>move out from my parents house
>still have the game but no ps4 and didnt play dlc yet
should i buy a ps4 for considering form will probably pump more sony exclusives in the future? bloodborne is a pretty sick game as is
Dark Souls 3 is to Bloodborne what Dark Souls 2 was to 1.
>>341993127
Nah, that's it. It wraps everything up pretty nicely, and makes sure you know that Byrgenwerth was nothing but total god damn shitheels for what they did to the Fishing Hamlet
>>341993246
Nah. DaSIII is actually a good game without retard hitboxes.
>>341993127
I want a Bloodborne 2 so fucking bad.
>>341993732
No you don't the sequels for these games are shit
>>341990398
Might just be Yarnhamites.
No clue where >>341991039 got that from.
I like to imagine little boy is Micolash.
>>341991730
Considering he had no real hype, and we were all expecting a beast type boss for the entire thing, fuck yes Ludwig delivered. When that cutscene played I had no idea what was going on.
> Ah, you were at my side all along
> My true mentor
> My guiding moonlight
> DAAN DUH DAA DAN DA DADA DA
My mouth was agape the entire second phase, and I managed to kill him the first time I saw the saw the cutscene (died multiple times to first phase) with almost no vials left. It was incredible, 10/10 boss fight.
In other news, I now have gotten 8 gems with -health/sec in a row. Fuck you FromSoft and fuck your "RNG" this shit is biased as hell.
>>341993947
Does the doll give a clue as to who the people in the pic are?
They're the same game.
Clunky control, single button smashing combat, no level design, no fun.
>>341993947
>Here, kid, put your head in this cage, it's awesome
>He never stopped, just kept moving on to bigger and bigger cages
Anyone that places DaS3 above DaS2 is a fucking clown that doesn't understand what makes these games good.
It's possible the DLC will make it better overall, but it would have to make massive changes to the game's systems and work the DLC areas into the main game in such a way as to allow a less linear progression route. As it is, vanilla DaS3 is the worst in the DaS series, and no amount of pretty graphics and blood splatter technology is going to change that.
>>341994128
weak bait
>>341991467
There's like 2 genuinely bad bosses in BB. Bitches of Hemdick is retarded and irrelevant and ruins an otherwise great area. Micolash is excusable because he's very story related and arguably the game's main villain. People don't seriously consider King Allant a real boss, he's just there for story purposes.
What other ones are stupid.
>>341993246
I completely agree. Bloodborne is so fresh, whilst Dark Souls III is just more of the same.
Went straight back to Bloodborne after 80 hours on DS3 and damn it feels a million times better.
>>341993425
Every Souls game has terrible hitboxes. Dark Souls 2 is just the only one that allows the player to make them even worse by not leveling ADP.
>>341993385
>Byrgenwerth was nothing but total god damn shitheels
>kill a few backwater yokels in an attempt to trigger a huge leap in human evolution
Yeah nah. Byrgenwerth boys always had humanity's best interests in mind.
>>341993732
I kind of don't. I want more, but not necesseraly a sequel. The sequels suck. What would a sequel even be about, anyway? We've already exlplored Yharnam.
>>341994316
Micolash might be a bad example of a fight, but fuck me, I love it.
Maybe it's the howling, maybe it's the "GRANT US EYES", but I love chasing this loony shit around
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcUSbbC1egA
>>341994146
That's what I'm saying man. Kid saw a cage and was like,
>this is exactly how I am going to make contact with the Eldritch gods this crazy fucking town worships
>>341994383
>Every Souls game has terrible hitboxes.
Apart from some grab attacks the hitboxes in DeS, DaS 1 and 3, BB are on point. That's not the case for 2.
>>341994316
>Micolash
>main villain
Micky did NOTHING wrong.
>>341994464
Yes, it is the case for 2. Go ahead and post your sweet 0 ADP webms that showcase the roll hitbox bug that was patched out weeks after launch to prove me wrong though.
>>341994383
>Defiled and possibly killed a god for SCIENCEDon't remember if Kos was dead when they got her out of the water or not
>Dooming a town to be locked in the nightmare
>Takes people, enlarges their brains to harvest their insight-eyes
>Peforms who knows what other kind of heretical experiments in the research halls
Nah, Byrgenwerth is nothing but BLASPHEMERS and BLOOD CRAZED FIENDS
>>341994432
Don't get me wrong, I fucking ADORE that fight.
>Final area of the game
>Finally meet another human
>A fucking KEY human who probably has all the answers to every question you have in the game
>He's batshit insane and plays cat and mouse with you while ranting on, revealing tiny bits of absolutely crucial information
>Grant us eyes
>GRANT US EYES
>AWOOOOOOOOOOO
>that fucking ominous and terrifying music
>That complete confusion as you run around in the mist
It's great. But for people who don't like the game as much as us, i can see why they'd call it a shitty fight, especially on NG+ when ACB one-shots you, and he just spams Augur the whole time.
Awesome character though. Love him.
>>341977334
They're all shit tbhd
>>341994461
I can imagine him, long before he joined the School of Mensis, in one of the alleyways of Yarnham, with that stupid bird cage on his head, holding open his coat and trying to peddle tiny cages to people to wear
>>341994804
It's no coincidence that his AWOOOOOOOOOO is my text tone, I love the shit out of Micolash, but god damn when he starts spamming Augur and Call, the fight quickly loses the appeal of fighting a nutcase who can't sit still
>>341994641
I'm not posting any webms, I have nothing to prove. I know how bad the hitboxes are from my recent 95+ agility playthrough of SotFS + all DLCs. You can feel free to defend an objectively broken game all you like, though.
>>341994508
>Kidnapped hundreds of people from Yarnham with his Yahargul hunters
>Performed countless experiments on living creatures, warping them beyond recognition
>Key figure behind the mensis ritual which had the sole goal of sacrificing an entire town to transport them to the nightmare in the hopes that some Great one would let their consciousness's back into the waking world
>All so they could harness the power of the great ones in the name of mensis
>And take over the fucking world
He's a cool guy anon but come on, NOTHING wrong? Everyone else in Yarnham besides arguably Laurence had good intentions. Micolash wanted power, and wasn't afraid of hurting, killing, and mutilating hundreds if not thousands of people to get it.
>>341993425
DaS2's hitboxes are retarded in the sense that some animations are sloppy enough for you to see behind the curtain.
That and Adp was a poorly explained stat that was both a great and terrible idea.
pros
>leveling attunement increased agility, so mages, who wouldn't be using heavy armour (in theory) would be harder to hit on their rolls, compensating for their inherent squishiness
>faster estus/ item use
cons
>tighter roll timing out the gate compared to its predecessors (arguably not bad, just different)
>had an entire stat dedicated to it that you needed to invest in if you weren't going tank/ didn't want to deal with the tighter rolling times (again, arguable, since the game had a completely different PvP balance from its predecessors, so the meta could very well have evolved to incorporate it)
It gets a lot of shit, and I can't say I was a fan of it personally, but it wasn't the worst thing in the world.
>>341977334
Probably better, nintendo 3ds is wasted potential
>>341995151
Ludwig, arguably. He started a militia to try to combat the beasts
>>341995095
where did you find the sound?
if you have it can you post it?
>>341977334
different, but as enjoyable
>bloodborne thread
>immediately start a topic which result in shitposting and console wars
>post shitty stale memes from a dead fanbase
Enough of this fucking game, why do you fucks keep trying to make it relevant, there is nothing left to discuss that hasn't been discussed before.
Is Gehrman the first ever dollfucker to be portrayed in a videogame?
>>341995329
It's not too hard, just turn down all sound options but the dialogue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcUSbbC1egA
>>341995462
still hurting even 2 years later huh?
Bloodborne was great, the new mechanics to keep up with the faster gameplay was genius, the interconnected world map, a FUCKING WHEEL, too bad the guns sucked, would've been nice to play through the game with guns only.
>>341995269
The Church appointed him as leader of the Holy Blades, and he served his purposes admirably. He had no ill intent, he fought beasts bravely, he was a shining light of justice in a place as dark and desolate as Yarnham. It's no surprise that peasants and townsfolk rose up with him to fight alongside him, especially considering the scourge had spread rapidly, they needed more hunters. I don't really think Ludwig is at fault for anything other than forsaking his sense of fear, blindly trusting the spirits of the HMS. That was some dumb shit.
>>341981106
>memeplying
>>341992236
>Imagine how good it'd look with supersampling and a stable framerate.
Well considering DaS3 on PC somehow manages to look worse.
>>341995718
>the interconnected world map
Shame progression is so much more linear than DaS1. I mean, you have optional areas but the main bosses have to be fought in a certain order with no sequence breaks (excluding the fence jump which has been patched)
>>341996047
He was still part of the Church, which was full of shitheads like Gehrman, but Ludwig might have been the best example of a Paragon that BB has to offer
>>341995718
>would've been nice to play through the game with guns only
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f_BRnX6DM4&list=PLVDIXUXJIIvFSlTpFOxfIeoKLDmk0bMd0
It's possible, it's just boring as fuck until you have loads of Bloodtinge and Evelyn/Repeater. But tbqh the melee combat is so good I don't want to play any build that doesn't involve melee. It's not like Dark Souls where you think "fuck these faggots I just want to cheese them from distance with a bow or spells". You wanna get in there and get covered in blood.
>>341996248
That's my point. The aesthetic is already perfect, it's only the technical limits that are holding it back. DaS3 looks bad on PC because the aesthetic is bland.
>>341995718
Here's the progression form the artbook.
>too bad the guns sucked, would've been nice to play through the game with guns only.
I did that on my second playthough. 100% bloodtinge build, before the DLC, and worked just fine. I had to suffer my way through Cainhurst, but that was part of the fun, I got to be an OP god with the edgy katana and evelynn
>>341996362
I guess so, but it really didn't feel linear to me, it has the biggest ratio of optional areas to main areas of any Souls game. On my 1st playthrough I somehow managed to kill Gherman before finding the Cleric beast, then I went to Hemwick and cleared that out, then to Amelia and only then did I do Old Yharnam.
I was also captured to the Darkbeast Paarl area before stepping into forbidden woods.
All of this while in party chat with my friend who did it all in a different way.
The main path might be linear but all the different optional paths merge in and out of it in different way, and you don't know what's optional the first time around so it feels pretty amazing.
>Amygdala in the Nightmare Frontier comes from the top of an octagonal tower
>Micolash wears an octagonal cage on his head
What did they mean by this?
>>341985018
>54
Better combat and weapon movesets. Worse level variety before the dlc.
>>341998245
Arcane tools actually scale better from 50-99 than they do before 50. The weapons still drop off at 25 and 50 like everything else, but at 99 your spells do outrageous damage.
>>341977334
DaSIII could have beaten BB if:
>1) It had the same level of polish BB had
seriously DaS3 had a really meh looking world for the most part and just lacked the degree of polish BB had all over. BB's world looked fantastic whereas DaS3 felt a little generic and bland. It was really fucking ugly to look at
>2) They made its combat 'feel' more satisfying
While DaS3's combat was deeper than BB's, it didn't feel nearly as satisfying as BB's did. They needed to make it feel more impactful. BB was a blast to play, you felt like a beast on a night out on the hunt, drenched in blood with trick weapons etc. DaS3 was just okay.
DaS3 also played it way too safe. More of the same, been there, done that. But it did have much better gameplay than the other Souls games.
>>341990398
Griffith
>>341996394
There's a difference between "member of the church" and "evil conspirator using the church as a front to experiment on people until we ascend". Ludwig wasn't pulling any strings. He was probably just a really good fighter who was completly absorbed in fighting the beasts, and not really thinking too hard about where they were coming from.
Also Gerhman was not a bad guy at all, it's said he didn't relish in the killing and did it because they needed to be put down, and he definetly wasn't responsible for any of the awful stuff the church did. Plus he realeased a hell of a lot of hunters from the dream to "wake up" remaining as the host himself, while he obviously just wanted to die.
The only morally questionable stuff about him is what went down in the Fishing Hamlet, but it's really unclear what exactly happened with that. The game makes it seem like Kos washed up dead, but the story makes a whole lot more sense if Kos was killed by Hunters. Plus there's the issue of "Byrgonworth": was it actual Byrgonworth scholars or people following in the footsteps (aka The Choir), which would make a whole lot more sense considering how you get to the Hamlet in-game.
>>341977334
DaS3 is such a dud. It's not just all the samey weapons, failed ashen flask/nerfed magic systems, dark swords, crap heavy armor and poise working as intended. But it's the shitty lore and tired references that kill any desire I have to play it.
Meanwhile I can slip back into Bloodborne and instantly enjoy myself again, pvp is still active.
Just started Bloodborne a few days ago but I'm still pretty new to it. Killed the Undead Giant today in a chalice dungeon. I still feel like I'm missing a load of stuff. I never saw any opportunity to get new weapons aside from the spooky skelly selling a few in the hunter's dream, and I don't want to buy them because I've already invested enough blood shards strengthening my gun and axe. Same thing with armor, haven't came across anything good, or any decent stones to put in my weapons.
>>341977334
It's a meme game
>>342000714
Most non dlc weapons are gotten from getting the badge corresponding to it and buying them, there are some that are on random corpses in the world but those are few.
>>342000714
Assuming you're running a STR build, the DLC will have tons of great weapon options if you have it.
But you still have the axe, hammer and some other things to work with.
Decent blood gems don't really become worthwhile until late in the game. Until then you can get by on the ones you find.
>>341977334
BB would be the best souls game if it was released on PC. But with 15-25 fps it's second best after DaS 3.
Has the lore been figured out yet?
>>342001000
Not if you're asking "what the hell did the great ones want?"
>>342000714
You'll eventually have more shards and blood gems than you know what to do with. Armour is largely fashion unless you need a specific resistance (poison, frenzy or arcane). Just go out and kill a few beasts, it's what hunters do.
>>342001000
Kellogg did a couple of good videos on the BB lore and the DLC before she disappeared again (Rumour has it that she's extremely ill at the moment, which is sad if true) and some guy wrote a really good essay on the BB world that Vaati ripped huge chunks off of; gimme a sec and I'll try to find it.
>>342001000
>>342001142
Here we go.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JL5acskAT_2t062HILImBkV8eXAwaqOj611mSjK-vZ8/edit?pref=2&pli=1
>>342001000
Check out Redgrave. He's a faggot bum but his BB shit is bretty gud.
>>341977334
you cant talk about it on /v/ because xboxfags and pcfags just shitpost while sonyggers fuel the shitposting by spamming NEVER EVER
no group on here can talk about this game without it devolving into memes
>>342001000
No, it's not meant to be like Dark Souls where every question has an answer and everything is 100% concrete. The limits of human knowledge is a pretty major theme in the story. To some players that's unsatisfying, to some it's the reason why it's the best Lovecraft-inspired game ever made.
>>342001232
It's a good read but there's a lot of MY HEADCANON IS FACT in there. Don't take it too seriously.
Better in design and atmosphere, worse in gameplay variety.
So BB has a better singleplayer experience, DS3 is better multiplayer wise
>>341977334
About equal, it's highly overrated because it's a Sony exclusive. The best game in the series is still the first Dark Souls.
>>342001063
Isn't that a focal point of Lovecraftian cosmic horror? The gods' intellect and mind being so out of our reach that we can't even begin to comprehend why do they do shit.
>>342001440
Exactly.
>>341999872
>>341996394
The moonlight sword numbed his fear response, it is what made him such an effective hunter; no flight, only fight. But as Eileen put it ''without fear in our hearts, we're little more than the beasts themselves'' which is why when he transformed, he became something beyond what any other beast could be, he recoiled further than any holy man before him.
>>342001538
Source on the anime motherfucker
>>342000949
>15-25 fps
>>342002319
15fps is being generous during some boss fights like Paarl or Blood-Starved Beast in its final phase.
Fucking particle effects everywhere absolutely crippling the framerate.
>>342001698
durarara
>>342002470
Fuck the camera when it comes to darkbeasts.
>>342003305
Massive bosses in general are a pain to fight thanks to the camera. Most of the time all you see is a close-up of its balls.
Ludwig is probably the cutoff for huge bosses that are still enjoyable to fight.
>>342002470
good bait
>>341991730
>>341994032
>that voice
>that music
>that moonlight
>mfw "Today is the day Ludwig learns to walk upright!"
>Have no trouble with Gherman, Ludwig, Rom, Orphan of Kos, or any of the chalice bosses
>Literally can't beat Blood Starved Beast without a summon even now.
I have never hated any boss in any game ever more than this fucking poison cunt. Fuck his framerate drops, fuck having to chase him around the room because he spazzes right out, fuck having to spam antidotes if he even stands near you, fuck everything.
I skip him ever NG+ cycle because I can't stomach the fucking pain of doing this ridiculous fight when I already have the chalice.
>>342004531
BSB is literally the easiest boss in the game though. I can literally beat him while walking the entire and without even having to roll and i'm fucking trash at video games.
Just constantly move around to his right, slap him when he whiffs his attacks since they have no tracking, and that's it.
>>342004531
Just use the fucking blood syrup.
>>342004810
>legitimately thinks BSB is easier than Cleric or Amelia
dude..
>>342003569
I understand your feelings on the matter
>>341978748
he's hilariously weak to gun, huge windups and you should at least be able to tank one hit in the chance that you miss. dies in about 3
seriously if you can't parry at this point there's no hope
>>342005083
That's only his first form. His second form has insane armor on literally every move
>>342004980
Cleric has more HP (if you fight him ASAP at least) and as such has more of an opportunity to actually hit you.
I'll give you Amelia though. I legit look forward to fighting her every playthrough because of how easily I trash her regardless of my weapon at the time.
>>342004992
It would be easy without target lock and using the camera free. But the fps drops are preventing this.
>>342004980
>nearly every attack can be countered/visceraled
nigga, if you know what your doing you can beat him blindfolded
