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http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/18/no-mans-sky-developer-settles-lawsuit-with-sky-tv
>Studio founder Sean Murray shared the news in a post on Twitter, saying, "Yay! We finally settled with Sky (they own the word 'Sky'). We can call our game No Man's Sky. 3 years of secret stupid legal nonsense over."
>Murray noted the dispute was with "the same folks who made Microsoft change Skydrive to Onedrive... so it was pretty serious.
Why are copyright laws so terrible?
Almost fell to the Jews.
Phew. Close one.
Game on, gamers!
"No Man's Sky"?
More like "No One Cares"
>>341976663
"No Man's Interest'
>>341976375
Copyrighting common words and broad terms should be illegal.
Sky is too common of a fucking word to copyright.
Copyright law is so dumb.
>>341976375
what about SKYpe?
>>341976375
Sometimes the law scares me
>>341976786
>tfw candy, purple and saga are copyrighted
That's similar to the fucker who owns "Edge"
People owning single common words is some serious bullshit.
>>341976375
"They own the word sky"
I'm pretty sure that isn't true. Maybe in a certain context but not the word itself. I don't think a judge in the universe would agree that someone can own a word that has existed since before English was a language. This is like when King tried to copyright "saga"
>you can copyright a common word
What the fuck.
I'll buy the game now, the jews are defeated
>>341976786
This. At least then some e-celebs can get in trouble for pulling this shit.
>>341977252
At least in the case of "Edge", that guy got his asshole torn open by EA when he attacked them for using Mirror's "Edge". EA took him to court after his claim, and he lost the rights to the word. One good thing Electronic Arts had done in recent years.
>>341977304
Nope, they've claimed the word "Sky" and are likely to copyright troll anybody who has the letters "SKY" somewhere in their title/brand name.
It's no different than Patent trolls who make super vague, general concepts into patents and will try to squeeze money out of others for using or making something even remotely similar.
The copyrighting, trademarking and patent systems are all godawful with how many holes they have, and are used for financial trolling all the fucking time.
>>341976786
I think the copyright and trademark laws are so fucked up that every word these days can be attached with a copyright.
I think most people don't sue, mainly because you'll look like an utter faggot doing so.
>Sky TV
fucking kek
Sky and Skype was in a similar dispute but eventually it turned in skypes favor to keep their name. Sky seems like big dickwads imo
copyright and trademark law is so vastly outdated and twisted it needs to be rewritten from the ground up.
how can someone own a word
if it's clearly in no way referencing their brand then it shouldn't matter
amerifats are seething
>>341978170
I'll add this to my list of words to avoid using.
Sky
React
Scrolls
QUICK! Jesus has come to you in your dreams telling you to trademark ONE WORD, the most cancerous word in the industry, to save the videogame industry by suing all who use it.
What word do you trademark?
>>341978574
Super
>>341978574
The
>>341978574
Souls
>>341978574
A
The letter A.
On a technicality, it counts as a word, and the shitty copyright systems would probably allow it.
>>341978574
remaster
>>341976375
Wait, you can now copyright a word? What the fuck is that shit.
>>341978574
Reboot
![eeb4f8b52ae439f6dcbbbb241e0cdd84[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wYhx8wJ.jpg "eeb4f8b52ae439f6dcbbbb241e0cdd84[1].jpg")
How the fuck can someone own the word ''Sky''
>>341978297
>You are in violation of United States of America Copyright law. Cease and desist all usage of the words in question of face prosecution to the fullest extent of the law
>>341978951
What the fuck man that’s copyrighted you’re going to get us all sued.
>>341978919
They'd just start using "reimagining" again.
Didn't Bethesda try to sue somebody who was making a game called "Scrolls" or something?
>>341978951
copyrighting a word in a context that isn't it's natural meaning is ok. Just like windows applied to computer programs. In this case, sky is copyrighted for multimedia purpose.
>>341979248
Yes. Mojang.
>>341976375
So is this the real reason why it is was delayed several times?
>>341978574
Retro
>>341977304
>I don't think a judge in the universe would agree that someone can own a word that has existed since before English was a language.
Of course not.
But that's not the point of these lawsuits. Most of them never see a court, because most people just give up and change the name rather than spend hundreds (or millions) of dollars in legal fees. Big companies count on this.
>>341978574
The number 3
>>341979295
No, it's delayed because the game doesn't actually exist.
Have you seen an unscripted gameplay demo?
I sure haven't.
>>341979305
*hundreds of thousands
>>341979305
Shouldn't there really be laws in place to prevent this sort of thing from happening at all? How could any court agree to letting a company own the word 'sky'?
>>341979295
>it's STILL not out
I can't believe it
>>341979517
It was supposed to come out this week.
>>341977304
Pretty sure everyone in that trial including the judges and Sky side understood it's utter bullshit and makes no sense.
But it's not about common sense, it's about fucked up mess of a copyright law. Sole purpose of which is to feed armies of lawyers who created this laws exactly for that.
>>341978574
feminist and all of its derivatives
>>341979517
>>341979367
Well, this lawsuit WAS unexpected, and they opted for settlement, so that must have cost them a lot of money.
>>341979445
There should be laws in place to prevent a lot of things.
The world's fucked, yo.
Hey guys, don't check this spoiler.Sky
Can't spell KYS without SKY ;)
>>341979445
there are laws but nobody enforce them. contracts that are illegal are considered valid just because bureaucrats are too lazy to check the content
>>341979908
*FBI vans intensify*
By settle I guess they mean they begged Sony enough to give the other company 100 gorillion dollars to fuck off.
> Why are copyright laws so terrible?
Kikes.
>>341978574
"Over" or "Under"
>>341976893
Legally that's acceptable. Changing one letter or adding one creates an entirely different word even it has the same meaning. You could sue if you copyrighted regardless but could not if someone used irregardless
>>341978574
fall
>>341978574
experience
Between this, Scrolls, Saga and Edge, has a single one of these lawsuits ever turned out in favour of the word copyright holder? At least in a large case?
I admit I'm very ignorant about this kind of thing, perhaps there've been countless cases from small companies getting assblasted over this.
>>341980030
that's just how law works, dude. someone has to raise the issue. For example the "Scrolls" issue. Lawsuit about it was raised only because Bethesda wanted to make a lawsuit out of it. If they didn't, no one would have given a shit about it.
And the trademark law hold a principle telling that if the trademark in question is not used by the owner in question, they better have a damn good reason to sue for the usege of it.
>>341978574
The word 'OF'.
I just saved the world.
>>341978574
open
i have never wanted a meme to die more than i want open world games to die
please
>>341976786
Why is America so retarded.
The case with Banner Saga being sued by those Candy Crush mobile shitters was a lot worse.
>>341978574
Meme
>Sky is copyrighted
What is this futurama?
>The only two words left are "the" and "popplers"
>>341980606
There's the twist of this scam. Usually big companies can dragonpunch those people because they have the means to win such a case, but smaller companies usually don't have the money nor the tenacity to go through the lawsuit, so they settle for that extortion.
>>341980682
>>341980625
Wasn't that because companies are scared because american customers are retarded and might mix up the two products?
>>341979609
If you copyright something, and choose not to defend that copyright, you run the risk of losing ownership of that copyright. That's another big reason as to why these companies get away with this shit.
>>341978574
Diversity
>>341978574
Copyright
>>341976786
Fucking Cadbury chocolate copyrighted the colour purple. Another chocolate company called Darrel-lea got sued into oblivion for having a purple colour logo and being a chocolate company
>>341980606
Any lawyer who has any doubt as to whether or not they will win will tell their clients not to proceed with the case when up against a large company.
>>341980813
I own popplers, don't type it please.
Heil Capitalism.
>>341980949
That's only true for trademarks.
>>341978574
Innovation. Would make e3 so much more bearable.
>>341977353
Don't use the word WHAT, I own that one dude. You know owe me 5 dollars or I will sue you. See you in the AMERICAN COURT OF FREEDOM AND JUSTICE.
>>341980923
Yea, its the purpose of the law in the first place. But there are a lot of "but"s in there. One has to actually use that trademark for it to have any legitimacy. If this trademark was registered in 2002 and it hasn't been used anywhere, then it is very hard to assert ownership over it.
When this law is used like it was intended to, then companies would sue those people who have too similar trademarks. Often times they don't even do this to win, but just to show that they are willing to sue any kind of infringements - essentially asserting their ownsership over their property.
Should have changed the name to No Man's Drive.
>>341976786
There's a ton of stupid shit around like copyrights on colours, common words and even specific genes that are found in nature.
Copyright laws have gone way too far, and those involved with them should be hung and quartered on live TV, viewing mandatory. Too bad people are too fucking retarded to understand the implications of this horseshit. Its a symptom of a much larger problem. It will only get worse, much worse. Can't wait for free thought to be censored, they're already hard at work in schools and universitys around the globe to get the ball rolling on that.
>>341981446
ily bby
>>341977353
A trademark is more than a word, its a combination of factors that creates a brand or identity for that company.
Its not as simplistic as to just say "I trademarked the word Carp for my toilet paper company" and then go off and sue another company that sells CDs called Carp and win. There has to be many links between the brand being protecting and the infringement of the other brand, just being called Carp is not enough.
If a company came along though and was called Carp and sold toilet products, its more likely in that case the first company would win.
>>341981540
Slow down /pol/ before you cut yourself on that edge.
>>341980813
Please stop using the word WHAT I've copyrighted it and I own it. You better deposit 5 dollars into my American bank account I wont sue you.
you can't copywrite words, 'sky' is a trademark iirc, there is a subtle difference, either way can't believe they pull this shit...oh wait I can.
>>341976375
>Why are copyright laws so terrible?
Because the jews literally get them changed to suit their venal purposes.
>>341981540
As I know its basically just one country in the entire world where what you just said applies to.
>>341981540
>There's a ton of stupid shit around like copyrights on colours, common words
You trademark brands, not words. 'Sky' is a brand, the word sky is but one part of the companies identity and thats taken into account when settling these issues.
Pls dont speak when you dont know what you are talking about
>>341976375
>they own the word 'Sky
I bet the Jews did this
Par for the course really, companies need to defend their trademarks if they want to keep them so it pretty much encourages frivolous lawsuits.
>>341981828
Enjoy having the government taking your possessions away, using violence on you and your family and robbing you of your freedom for saying illegal words or thinking illegal thoughts.
>>341981984
The (unelected, non democratic) European union is hard at work making laws that enable this kind of behavior. "trade treaties" like TTIP and dozens of other under the table deals are being made every year.
>>341976663
>>341976730
No Man's Content
>>341982213
>You trademark brands, not words.
Yes, and brand names tend to involve words. Common words sometimes. Some of which were too common for just one pig to completely own, yet now get away with it.
>>341978574
Wii
>>341980683
Surprised it took you all so long. I would copyright this and sue every one of you motherfuckers, not to mention 99% of the whole goddamn Internet.
I fucking hate that word now.
Reminds me when Blizzard sued a movie called El Diablo because of the Diablo name a long time ago.
>>341982794
Source: my ass: the post
>>341983928
What specific thing would you like a source on?
>>341982698
>need to
No, they want to. They don't NEED to do shit. You don't NEED to be a business. It's a privilege.
>>341983245
That isnt how the law works at all. Yes its a common word, but thats irrelevant. Its the brand that is brought into court, not the word.
>>341976657
>Game on, gamers!
>>341978574
Cuck.
>>341978574
Pokemon
>>341980672
It's an European news agency retard
It should be a criminal offense to attempt to enforce trademarks in an obviously unreasonable manner. You can't own words like "Sky" or "Apple". These lawyers should be rotting in prison getting raped by niggers.
>>341981141
Is that what happened? I thought Darrel lea just massively downsized because no one bought it outside of a last minute gift at the hospital gift shop.
>>341978574
consoles
>>341983928
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/mar/27/student-jailed-fabrice-muamba-tweets
Someone should copyright the word 'meme'.
>>341986485
Exclusive
>>341978574
Faggot
It's funny these guys never sued.
>>341987245
Not every company is scummy, though if someone like Google or Microsoft manage to buy Dropbox one day I can see it happening.
>>341978574
it's a coin flip toss over
>toxic
and
>problematic
No one would ever be able to say that shit on the internet again.
>>341976375
>steal and try to ride on popular brand
>surprised when sued
why are indie devs so retarded?
>>341978574
epic
>>341976375
Because you need enforce your copyright to keep it.
>>341978574
War
>>341988303
How is 'Sky' A brand?
>>341988685
Because greed.
>>341988831
But... who is greed?
No Man's Game™
When is 'water' getting copyrighted? So when someone dieing asks for water he has to pay for saying it + pay for the water that comes from the sky for free.
>>341989000
kikes
>>341978574
Halo
>>341976663
>>341976730
>>341983075
No Man's Buy (^:
Did I miss it or wasnt it shown at e3 this year? Nothing new left to show us, already?
>>341980606
If I remember well, soul edge turned into soul calibur because of copyright issues
>>341978574
Gone
>>341978574
>the most cancerous word in the industry
Fun.
>>341978574
female
>>341978574
RESIDENT
I wonder if Skyrim had the same problem
>>341978574
Revelation
Revolution
Retribution
All of the "R" words that sequels use instead of being creative.
>>341978574
Star
>>341978574
I would trademark the word word.
That way I could sue everybody who uses the word word to talk about me owning it.
50 mentions in this thread only.
>>341976375
I don't get it, in situations like this, why doesn't someone just kill the copyright holder?
Few people get killed and the problem will start being looked at
>>341978574
Choices
also, best one so far>>341981405
>>341976375
>the same folks who made Microsoft change Skydrive to Onedrive
To be honest, when Skydrive was first introduced I was with Sky broadband and I assumed it was their cloud service
Aren't trademarks generally limited to the field they originate in?
What does Sky have to do with video games?
>>341978297
>React Scrolls: Sky King Saga
>>341978574
new
>>341978574
Dubs
>>341994247
>Sky King Saga: Candy Scrolls React
>>341976657
>Almost fell to the jews
Honestly, it would have been better that way.
This game is going to disappoint everyone because everyone is making up crazy expectations for it
Honestly, it should just disappear.
>mfw some kike though he could stop FIVE BILLION YEARS OF FUN
>>341978574
Console
>>341978574
Diversity
>>341978574
Graphics
