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When is XIV going to look this good?
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When is XIV going to look this good?
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When they turn the lighting back on.
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>>341969549

>What are bullshots?

At least the UI was damn close.
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when it becomes an actual good game
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>>341969653
It's not a good game.
It's a great game.
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Who cares? It's "collect 10 chocobo assholes: the game" questing simulator with optional grouping content and a chatbox in the corner so they can call it a "MMO"

Fuck that, I'll stick to EVE Online and Project Gorgon
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>>341969736
>Project Gorgon

Did they get an artist and animator yet?
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>>341969549
When you realize that designs and mockups, not final implementation.

Also, when they drop support for the PS3.

Also, that really doesn't look much better than FFXIV currently does. The UI looks a little more "defined" and maybe the lighting is a little better, but that's it.
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>>341970029
Missed some words in that post, but you get the gist of it.
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>>341969828
Nope, but who cares? It's actually an MMO where people socialize and interact with each other with sandbox elements. However, if you want muh gud gfx, go look up Chronicles of Elyria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOKdf5lp2IQ


I'd rather play a diamond in the rough than a polished turd
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>>341970138
Low tier UI
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>>341970029
I think it looks 10 times better.
XIV looks really flat in terms of lighting right now.

Plus the perspective makes it look cool.
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>>341970238
God damn I was just asking if they hired one yet since they intended to.
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>>341969736
>I haven't actually played the game
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>>341970238
>Nope, but who cares? It's actually an MMO where people socialize and interact with each other with sandbox elements. However, if you want muh gud gfx, go look up Chronicles of Elyria

hahahahaa this autism
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Man, I miss LS/FC crests. I have no idea why they got rid of them. Looks 1000x better than the shitty <<LOL>> thing we have now

Also I love those nameplates. Which we could use them
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They can't even get their zone design to look good and interesting as in their PS2 era MMO. How possibility they can make XIV look good? Especially when the core game is garbage.
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>>341970440
Are you seriously telling me that "muh themepark is different from every other themepark we've had since World of Warcraft"?

You're still going to quest givers, completing mundane tasks in groups for leveling XP to get to the next questing hub, just because you can change classes dynamically doesn't change things.

>>341970502
Enjoy your grindy weeb shit faggot. I'll be playing EVE Online with the big boys :^)
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>>341970594
Did Yoshi P shit in your breakfast cereal or something?
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>>341969732
This. It might be my favorite game ever...
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>>341970440
That's really not inaccurate. You're also doing it as part of this really annoying main story quest.

What I give to FFXIV is that the dungeons are very lovingly crafted. That's about it.
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>>341970594
>Enjoy your grindy weeb shit faggot. I'll be playing EVE Online with the big boys :^)

hahahahaa this autism u mad kid?
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>>341970029
The models, lighting, and color scheme looks a million times better in the concept than it does in the actual game.
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I actually rebought this today for PC since I finally got a computer that can run it. I really appreciate that I can still access my character from when I played it on the PS4.

Any word on if HW is going to go on sale soonish? I still haven't played it.
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>>341969549
It already looks like that.

Looking good has never been XIV's problem in any way, shape or form. Its the disastrous gameplay and absolute deficit of customization that's the issue.

How anybody can play an MMORPG in 2016 where gear is just '+2 main stat, +1 secondary stat' I don't fucking know. Even Destiny has more fucking variables than XIV.
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>>341970825
>rebought

They didnt let you just log in with your ps4 account?
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>>341970763
>What I give to FFXIV is that the dungeons are very lovingly crafted.

>Linear hallways with the same 'trash > boss > trash > boss > trash > boss' layout
>Literally like 50 dungeons and they all do this
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>>341970843
They need to change this up.
What becomes of previous dungeons and raids when they offer equipment that is simply unusable?
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>>341970594
Stop responding to shitposting.
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>>341970879
You have to buy a separate license for PC in order to play it on PC. It was 20 bucks and I had some extra money to spend.
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>>341970763
I wish FFXIV was a dungeon game like Vindictus or something.

I like FFXIV's raiding/dungeon content but I don't want to spend 100 hours getting to the stuff I actually enjoy.

This is why I really like Elder Scrolls Online with their One Tamriel update.
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>>341970843

It used to be like this before

It's not coming back. Encounter design and class balance is too structured to allow for varied stats
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>>341970969
Thats fucked. They should have jus let you download the client and be good to go.

Unless you bought the steam version then yeah you needed to buy it again because apparently giving a key to people who already own the game is some sorta voodoo only certain companies can do.
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>start FFXIV
>slug way to unlocking Astrologian and other wanted classes
>forced to grind said classes through millenia of random dungeon queues
>always the same dungeons
>forever
>999 pointless storyline quests
>reach Idyllshire after such struggle and reaching max level and shit
>so worn out by all the grinding and pointless fetch quest garbage and dailies with more fetch quests
>lose interest because the community there on becomes 100000% more insufferable

I pushed through with a decade of FFXI experience to get me through the tedium, but I just couldn't anymore.
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>>341969549

I thought this was a KOF Thread and your post still made sense.
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>>341971085

That's because the grind in XI (Well, pre WotG XI) and the grind in XIV are completely different things

Which is why it baffles me that people complain about the time investment aspect of XI, when XIV has you doing just as much if not more mundane shit
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>>341971009
I want to believe.
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>>341971162
The difference in XI is that all the time you spent wasn't invalidated next week.
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>>341970315
Got to emulate Maple Story somehow.
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>>341970774
Why is calling someone autistic while being ten times more autistic a joke?
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>>341971221
That minimap reminds me of the one from .hack//.
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>playing generic themepark shit when you could be playing Ultima Online/Star Wars Galaxies/EVE Online or Gloria Victis
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>>341971286
Are you implying patches with new tiers come every week? Fucking retard.
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>>341971221

Is there any actual progression tied to deep dungeons, or is it just some side activity that will be dead and dropped by the dev team in a single patch (diadem)?

That's one of my big issues with XIV; there aren't many lines of progression. You grind dungeons for tomes, or you grind dungeons for your relic
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>>341971162

At least in FFXI I could bide my time and have actual fun grinding skill masteries or materials for tangible progress, I guess. FFXIV making me rely on fucking cucks running random dungeon queues for reliable experience or doing "leves", AKA, grimoire garbage ad infinitum was just like, seriously? At least the forced partying in FFXI didn't involve dungeon looping, christ.
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>You will never play FFXI during its early days
>FFXIV will never not be shit
>MMOs won't recover from the cancer that WoW wrought
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>all this complaining about FFXIV

You guys seem jaded as fuck, bet you aren't even good at the game.
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>>341971435
There is. I think you start from level 17 and save the progress every few levels or something, and you will be starting fresh.

We still don't know for sure though, but knowing the team's track records, I'm not putting too much hope into it.
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>>341971429

Every three months or so. And the stuff you replace gear with is mechanically identical to what you already had. Means there's no feeling of meaningful progression at all

As opposed to XI, where unique lvl 7 boots would have lasted you years if you managed to get it
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>>341971476
>FFXI was different from every themepark that has come out since

Hello nostalgia, I've been expecting you in this thread for a while now. Lineage 2 sucked and FFXI sucked even harder.

Also
>playing FFXI instead of Asheron's Call or Star Wars Galaxies
Jesus, I feel bad for you.
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>>341971595
>lf leaping lizzy
>leaping lizzy <found it!>
>has anyone seen leaping lizzy
>FUCK YOU I HAVE BEEN CAMPING IT FOR 14 HOURS
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>>341971540
we've just played mmos that are actually good, XIV is pretty but it's painfully mediocre
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>>341971621
>>341971381

Awww, nobody likes the loner's games so he has to samefag it up. :(
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>>341971714
>we've just played mmos that are actually good

So like, the original Guild Wars? There aren't any other good MMOs.
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>>341971435
There's a lot of internal progression, plus there's gonna be i230/235 gear for whatever job you complete it on.

They've already started talking about developing the next 150 floors and a second deep dungeon. They feel it's gonna be good, and they want to avoid a Diadem 2.0.
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>>341971476
>>FFXIV will never not be shit
>>MMOs won't recover from the cancer that WoW wrought

But this is false. There's a really fucking good MMO out there right now that hits all the sweet spots that made pre-2004 MMO's great
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>>341971540
>implying FFXIV requires any modicrum of skill whatsoever

Oh honey...
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>>341971802
How is X anyway?
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>>341971802
Yeah, and SE will never release it in English. It's doubly painful for me since DQ is one of my favorite franchises.
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>>341971828
>>implying FFXIV requires any modicrum of skill whatsoever

Then how come 99% of the people I play with suck at it?
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>it's another "use personal attacks and assumptions in lieu of any actual argument, and outright ignore actual arguments when presented or claim they aren't true" thread
Every XIV/MMO thread.
Practically every thread ever anyway.
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>>341971435
Deep dungeon progression in no way interact with anything outside of deep dungeon.

So the whole grind tomes/raid will remain the only means to actually gear.
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>>341969549
Who made this?
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>>341971880
>he can't even quote properly
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>>341971782
FFXI, SWG, Everquest, original guild wars, wow before it went to shit. games where exploration was an actual thing, instead of teleporting to dungeons and rotations
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>>341971930
Me.
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>>341971476
>There will never be a huge FFXI private server that is 100% identical to the game's glory days
>You will never play FFXI in VR
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>>341971861
Because they're Final Fantasy babies. FF is one of the most casual franchises in existence so if the company decides to up the complexity even a little bit it overwhelms their core fanbase.
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>>341971930
It was a bullshot that was released during XIV's overhaul.
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>>341971971
Nice. Well done famalam.
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>>341971768
Not samefagging but you do realize that UO/Galaxies/EVE are referenced as the holy grail of MMOs?

UO is just 19 years old
Lucas killed Galaxies because he sent in market research people that ruined the game

and EVE Online is too abstract for people without autistic tendencies

Literally every article about EVE is filled with "GOD I WISH YOU CONTROLLED YOUR SHIP OR IT TOOK PLACE ON EARTH, THIS SOUNDS AMAZING"

There's a reason I can log into a 19 year old game that hasn't been updated in 5 years and have a great time every time I play it, and it isn't nostalgia because I started 3 years ago. It's a fundamental difference in game design. In my games, the players are the content. In your games, you're given what the devs give you and that's why people leave between updates/expansions.

>>341971968
This guy knows whats up, though I'd recommend UO/EVE/Asheron's Call.
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>>341971802
>DQX
>good

another singleplayer focused "MMO" with braindead content
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>>341972017
Are there any more like this?
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>>341971828
Nothing outside of the current raid tier/ex primal requires anything more than people just smashing buttons.
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>>341971802
>mfw DQX and XIV have the same Planner Chief
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>>341969549
more important question, when do chocobos get titles
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>>341972025
>and EVE Online is too abstract for people without autistic tendencies
>Literally every article about EVE is filled with "GOD I WISH YOU CONTROLLED YOUR SHIP OR IT TOOK PLACE ON EARTH, THIS SOUNDS AMAZING"

DAE LE EBIN EVE SEKRIT CLUB AMIRITE?

EVE is just straight up boring. Nothing happens 95% of the time you're logged in unless there's a global war or some fucktard Russian decides to fuck your shit up, and even then it takes 6 months and then some just so you can fly fun ships. I'm not saying EVE is a spreadsheet simulator because it isn't. Just the gameplay is fucking boring and unengaging.
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>>341971992
Most people that actually play FF tend to be competent from what I've noticed
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I really wish XIV was good, because I adore the aesthetic

I just can't do Tolkien styled fantasy or generic sci-fi. Can't do orcs and dwarfs and trolls and all that boring shit, and 99% of MMO's either use that sort of aesthetic, or are just super fucking ugly like Wildstar

Why does the one MMO that looks decent have to be shit?
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>>341972078
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>>341972182
>>I really wish XIV was good, because I adore the aesthetic
>>I just can't do Tolkien styled fantasy or generic sci-fi
Are you dumb? You seem fucking dumb.

>>Can't do orcs and dwarfs and trolls and all that boring shit
FFXIV doesn't even have any of those races.
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>>341972156
Why would you give a chocobo titties?
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>>341972025

In your games, you live a management experience handled through completely different perspective and appealing to completely different factors.
It's not an action game, it's not a roleplaying game and it's not an adventure game.

There is a reason why nobody actually cares for them beyond the people that make a living in it. It's not the thing most players want in a videogame; reflexes, storyline, customization, immersion or escapism.
It's a management experience. Which is completely unrelated to an actuall MMORPG discussion.
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>>341972157
And that's what people hate about EVE, but the premise where you're dropped into a universe and told "go do something" is fundamentally different from being dropped into a themepark where you do the quests/dungeons/raids the developers give you, and once that's up.... Uh, wait for the next expansion?

>>341972182
>I can't do Tolkien fantasy
>XIV looks good
Pick one faggot.
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>>341972202
Sweet thanks
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>>341972182
Where did you get up to?
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I remember when I had such high hopes for 2.0

I thought they were going to take the core concepts of 1.23b, improve upon them, fix the technical issues and map design, and we'd end up with a fantastic game

Instead they through everything out and just made WoW instead. I've never been more disappointed with a game. Despite the issues, I adored 1.0, or at least a lot of the concepts and ideas. It was a broken mess, but there was potential and it didn't play like every other post-2004 MMO

Fuck
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>>341972250
get your eyes checked, mate
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>>341969645
>bullshot
It's clearly an artwork you blind mongoloid
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>>341972202
I wonder if the people making that screenshot considered showing Aerith as dead.
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>>341972182
I adore the aesthetic too. I love the design of the entire game's lore, characters, enemies, visuals, story, everything. The endgame may not be very great but I still play the game because of everything else. I think it's entirely worth it.
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>>341972246

I think you need to learn how to read
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>>341972372
I thought Realm Reborn and 1.0 were mostly the same anyway.
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>>341969549
I just wish the game wasnt so dead

everything has a 5 hour queue on my dataserver, and I don't want to leave because I kind of like the people in my fc
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>>341972462
ARR and 1.0 share almost nothing in common.
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>>341972495
>I just wish the game wasnt so dead

So change servers retard.
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>>341972495
Then why complain about the game being dead when you play on a shit datacenter? Mine isn't big either but I don't think anybody will get 5 hour queues unless you're queueing for some bullshit like coils through duty finder. Stop being retarded.
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Is the PVP scene in this game thriving?
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>>341972739
>FFXIV PVP

NOPENOPENOPENOPE
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3.3 was fun.
Looking forward to deep dungs.
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>>341972739
see
>>341972495

no matter what dataserver you're looking at 30 minute queue times for any pvp content because everyone in this game is a fucking pussy bitch who can't handle any competitive content and would rather do easy as shit dance choreography memorization PVE content like the bunch of loose wet pussy's they are
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>>341972807
I am severely disappointed that deep dungeon isn't coming out until 3.35
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>>341972807
Please take your selfie shitting back to /xivg/.
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>>341970594

and yet SWTOR is still godtier compared SWGrind
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>Only class at 60 is AST
>Enjoy it, but tired of healing
>No other class is interesting
>Queue times for DPS classes are 20 minutes or so a pop
>Can't bear going through 30 levels of that for MCH

Fuuuuuuuck I've never felt less motivated to play. Haven't even touched 3.3 stuff yet because I don't want to do it as AST
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>>341972861
>nu male faggots born in 2005 can't spare 30 minutes of waiting in an MMORPG

Relax kid, go prepare a cup of coffee and take a shit while waiting.
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>>341972739

i'm on one of the most active data centers, the new pvp map they added was dead on week 1 of the patch, 45+ minute queues without a pop, i didn't bother waiting any longer. the only real reason to do pvp though is to get cool items, the combat system is fundamentally flawed targets that move at player speed or above come into the equation
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>>341972861
>pussy's
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>>341972372
The only thing people should miss from 1.0 are the graphics and cat asses, neither of which are coming back
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>>341973005
some of the music's alright
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>get done being banned
>come into /v/
>look at all of the caged electroshock floor tased mice biting and eating each other

Wow, does logic and common sense really go out of the door when I am absent?
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>>341973005
NO CAT BOOTY FOR FFXIV
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>got my horde weapon
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>>341973005

1.0 had a lot more depth within its RPG elements. There were more types of stats, damage types and equipment managing

There were also cool things like Monster Hunter styled incapacitation, and enemies had more organic AI

There were some cool concepts and ideas, even if they weren't fleshed out well. Which is why I was excited for 2.0. Thought they'd improve on those aspects instead of just getting rid of them
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>playing World of Warcraft: Final Fantasy edition rather than Mount&Blade: the MMO made by former CDProjektRed devs
wew lad
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>>341972885
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>>341973134
what ilvl are they

should I bother doing nighog ex?
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>>341970315
What the fuck is Bayonetta doing here ?
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>>341973448
>ilvl
135

>should I bother doing nighog ex?
Just wait for them to add dips to weeping city so you can unweather your lore weps to 140.
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>>341972939
You don't level with dungeons, you level with FATES.
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>>341973058
>tfw got Twilight Over Thanalan music sheet drop in Aquapolis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDjzssXZPUg
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>>341973328
that game is not a finished product.
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>>341973448
If you can find a competent group sure. You get 235 weps. Sephirot ex was probably the harder fight, but you know PF groups are always fuck ups.

>clear group
>can't even make it to add phase consistently
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>>341973328
that's my grove
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>>341973805
>can't even make it to add phase consistently
It's fucking seph ex all over again.
>p3 practice group
>most of them couldn't even get past green purple
>niddoge F&C practice group
>couldn't even beat the dps check on adds
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>>341973739
And yet I've had more enjoyment with Victis than the bullshit we've gotten for the past 12 years since World of Warcraft ruined the genre
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>>341973738
>No Twin Faces of Fate music scroll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oquox8Wnag4

M-Maybe next patch.
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>>341969549
Why is Boco in this picture?
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Considering how understaffed XIV is at the moment the patches are still impressive. Once Boyband Fantasy and Kingdomshits is released Square might even allow more than 100 people to work at XIV.
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>>341976637
with the FF7 remake being in development I wouldn't hold my breath
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>>341976637
I thought they said 200 people work on XIV.
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>>341973107
Left is better but it's still pretty bad.
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>>341976993
I remember reading an japanese interview with him saying his team was barely above double didgets by now. And it kinda shows if you compare the HW patches with the ARR ones. They are still fun, but the amount of recolors and same-ish gear is kinda staggering. Biggest offender is probably the eidolon tome gear. Only 4 sets and one of them exclusive for DRG for whatever reason, meaning the other classes have to share 3 sets.
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I just realized we haven't seen Yugiri since forever.

Where is she?
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>>341970138
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reminder that the inventory and armoury chest size is getting increased in 4.0, so it is highly likely that PS3 support is getting dropped before 4.0
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>>341977517
Didn't her new actor die irl?
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>>341977708
I'm not believing it until it is actually in the game.
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>>341977708
Dropping PS3 would enable them to switch the textures from 1.0 back on. Along with probably everything else holding the games tech back.

Imagine no debuff limit on bosses anymore.
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>>341977708
Then it'll turn to
>PS4 limitations
>When is the PS4 getting dropped
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Absolute serious question, I want to play either XIV or Warcraft, which should I go for?
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>>341978375
They both have free trials.
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>>341978353
at least the ps4 isn't running 10 year old hardware
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>>341978506

The beginning of a modern day MMO has absolutely no reflection on what you will be doing for the majority of your game life.
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>>341978375
XIV free trial goes all the way up to lvl 35 now, give it a try.

I really don't recommend Warcraft at this poit desu, unless you want to play on something like Kronos
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>>341977517
VA was killed by her boyfriend in the UK

I'm guessing they're going to do away with the character out of respect soon
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>>341978375
Play trial and go by the design style that you enjoy more.

For me I like XIV because it feels more comfy and the crafting is fun.
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>>341969549

FFXI is still the better game
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>>341978375
XIV if you're playing alone, WoW if you're playing with friends
You have to plough through the shitty story content in XIV in order to unlock content, so you'll end up having to wait for two hours on friday night for your familia to catch up before you can queue. It's comfy as all fuck though. And catgirls a cute
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>>341970315
>that random ass bayonetta
ahahaha what the fuck
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>>341978960

Is XIV good at max level?
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>>341978375
WoW if you want an MMO, XIV if you want Final Fantasy.
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>>341978960
>shitty story content in XIV
That's like, your opinion man.

It does start off very slow, i'll give you that. But the fact that XIV actually has a story (and a good one at that) is a big point in it's favour.
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>>341979020
Dunno. Stopped playing just when I hit 50, for various reasons. You do get several content patches worth of shitty story quests and presumably good dungeons/raids though.
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>>341978506
I can't even access the XIV trial for some reason
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>>341977708
Yeah but they are considering adding Xbone support
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>>341978883
XI looks archaic when you watch it played.
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>>341979020
The amount of stuff that crops up at level 50 is rediculous, so much so that the
>The true game doesn't start until 50
is pretty much true.
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>>341979157
When they shove it down your throat, and force both you and your friends to do it before you can access multiplayer features in an MMO, they get a smack on the sack from me
They do deserve a pat on the back for managing to give an MMO that good old FF feeling though, and I can totally understand that solo players enjoys it. It is much more interesting than collecting boar hides for farmers when you're leveling on your own
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>>341979020
What are you looking for at max level? I think savage content is good but I'm not personally into collecting/crafting/hunts/housing stuff so that's all I really can comment on.
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>>341971621
Asheron's Call and SWG were absolute shit and a non factor even at their height.
>samefagging this hard
Jesus, I feel bad for you
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>>341972025
Nobody cares about your trash mmos. Literally nobody.
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How to fix FFXIV:

Make every ARR quest after Praetorum optional. If you skip them you're presented with a summary when starting the Heavensward quests.

Make dungeons harder and/or less corridor-y and upscale every lvl 50 and 60 dungeons to the current ilvl, including loots (give them different stats to allow players to mix and match according to their job's stat weights).
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>>341979721

I guess doing fun dungeons, socializing and possibly raiding and grinding professions.
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>>341980004
>I want to skip story in a FF game
I want wowfugees to leave
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I liked it when I played it for about a month, it was my first MMO. It was fun hanging out with my clan, doing dungeons and having underwear dance parties and such.
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>>341980324
Only WoWfugees complain about WoWfugees.
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>>341980004
I think you need to get rid of item levels completely.

As it stands, there is no reason to go back and look through older dungeons for spoils.

The argument might be that, "Well, people are just going to use X anyway over Y" but then the game should design around that.

The game should have a mini-job system where you can change equip loads for a single class in real time.
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>>341980497
>remove the final fantasy from this final fantasy game
>no ur the wowfugee
sure
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>>341979697
I'm partial to XIV's story because it performs the same function as a paid subscription does, it's a filter for the kind of people you see getting through it to the endgame.

The edgy preteens who find it trite and cringey can stay in wow with their kind, good riddance.
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So which Job are you guys playing in XIV and why?
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>>341980637
Tons of people quit the game because of the sheer amount of mind-numbing fetch quests at level 50. Get your head out of your ass idiot, you're starting to eat your own bullshit.
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>>341971221
>Feint
>Featherfoot
>Haymaker

That hotbar just gave me an anneyurism
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>>341980809

I am sure tons of people quit, you must have a source for this information.
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I'm so close to buying XIV and wasting a month on it but my backlog doesn't get smaller and now I'm in this constant state of going back and forth
The hell do I do?
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>>341980963
>I'm so close to buying XIV and wasting a month on it
if you have never played 14 you are going to need 2 months to finish the entire story, addon included
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>no red mage or blue mage

disappointing.
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>>341981050
I've been playing for nearly a year, but other vidya and working a 9-5 mean I've not had a chance to finish the story yet.

P. Bummed.
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>>341980937

Read threads about the game and talk with people instead of circlejerking on the official forums. Literally everyone I know thinks the level 50 quests are horribly boring and could use a good trim.

I love this game but you have to be delusional to think the pre-Ramuh quests are even remotely interesting. The only thing that save them are the trials inbetween.
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>>341981050
the first buy comes with 30 days anyway and by that time I'll probably satisfied with MMOs for the time being. It's just that itch man
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>>341981142
Forget that shit, when's Mystic Knight/Spellsword/Spell Fencer?
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>>341980963
Do it anon I did it last summer, got it in a deal for a fiver.
It's pretty fun and a good looking game, if you need a time killer this summer go for it.
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>>341981207

I don't doubt they are boring, I doubt "tons" of people quit because of it.
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>>341971621
>instead of Asheron's Call or Star Wars Galaxies
I've seen some fails but this one takes the cake.


>>341971687
It took me 11 years but I finally got the drop from Leaping Lizzy in the modern version of XI.
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I got an idea, let's make an MMO focused on a main story line full of quests.
But here's the twist..We make it all for solo players.

GENIUS GIVE THIS MAN A RAISE YOSHI-P YOU ARE A GENIUS. I CAN'T BELIEVE NOBODY ELSE THOUGHT OF MAKING AN MMO CONSISTING OF 99% TEDIOUS SOLO CONTENT BEFORE. BASED YOSHI-P.
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>>341972931
SWTOR is dying fast though
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>>341981227
>It's just that itch man
iktf

resubbed to ff14

ended up playing for a week before I got bored of the same shit over and over again

now I'm playing marvel heroes and the game feels fresh and fun as fuck to me, best diablo feeling I had since LoD and the first raid reminds me sooo much of Molten Core, it's delicious
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>>341980827

>no second wind
>no internal release

one fucking job
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>>341969549
>when are MMOs going to look good
Never.
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>>341980770
Summoner because it's the only job that really fits with the overall story of the game.
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>few days ago, haven't beaten NidEx yet
>farm party everywhere, no clear party in sight
>finally cleared it today
>clear party everywhere, no farm party in sight

Fuck.
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>>341981442
It's more that quests are just ass as a whole.

Give the players something dynamic and group oriented.

Instanced dungeons feel so separate from the main game.
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>>341982556
Quests are ass and you can't grind monsters to level. So much of the content is gated behind never-ending quest chains too.
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>>341982361
>join clear party
>help bad people be less bad
>farm with with the less bad people you helped git gud
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>>341982743
Already tried.
>Clear party
>None of them made it pass Fang&Claw phase
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>>341972103
>Nothing but the hardest content is hard.

Great argument bud.
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We all know what the final boss is going to be for XIV.
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>>341977708
In the E3 interview, Yoshida said that they are planning to keep Ps3 support for the 3.x patches
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>>341983621
It was said they "might" drop support for PS3 past 4.0.
Given the success of the PS4, I guess they would.
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>>341980004
I think Yoshi-P said something about skipping the first part of AAR on a Live letter once 4.0 arrives
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>>341977708
It's been confirmed that 4.0 wpnt support ps3. I would imagine that's when it'll end for them
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>>341981142
You faggots need to leave
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>>341983432
Wont it be Zordiark? Or is that him?
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>>341984464
That's the final form.
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Since this seems to be an mmo general, has anyone else here looked into Pantheon: Rise of the fallen? It's being headed up by Brad Mcquaid, lead dev of Everquest and Vanguard. It's shaping up to be pretty damn good, basically a true spiritual sequel to EQ. Much of the classes are directly from EQ, and the gameplay is essentially an updated engine of EQ(focusing on actual skill ups and specific schools of magic/melee combat). They've done a 4 hour developer "let's play" to show off some of the starting areas and it looks pretty damn good. Macquaid and the dudes have specifically said that this will be a niche mmo, they aren't trying to go to market with millions of subs and all that horse shit. It's focusing on group play and social interaction through gameplay. The races look pretty good so far too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INd9SfIbWN4 the "let's play" is comfy as shit, they're doing another on this thursday the 23rd and they're going to hit a keep and maybe do a dungeon crawl.
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>>341973107
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>>341985696
It's all a front.
They want to take the thick away from us.
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>>341985929
>They want to take the thick away from us.
go japan
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>>341971861
This might shock you, but most people in the world are stupid. They're also fairly bad at activities, even ones that they like. So, you're playing with stupid people who are bad at video games. Why are you surprised that they're playing poorly?

I'm a fairly optimistic person who likes the human race and likes people in general, but people are also just kind of dumb.
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>>341986753
I disagree. I think people with varying intelligence congregate into different groups.

For example the majority of people here are strong lateral thinkers, but do poorly with organization or management.
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