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DO YOU LIKE PIES?
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DO YOU LIKE PIES?
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>>341913876
That's not pie.

Pie doesn't have transparent bubbles floating inside of it.

That looks like shit. She's a terrible cook.
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I LIKE HAMBAGA
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oh lord
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>never got milf Rorona because Gust needed to pander to pedophiles

brb killing self
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>>341914162
She is literally the greatest pie baker in her town. You shut your whoremouth.
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I like Rorona's cream pie.
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Why is she a loli
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someone post the cream pie that men crave for picture.
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>>341913876
I can see her cunt
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>>341914657
Isn't she in her 30's?
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>>341914797
I'd give her a cream pie.
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>>341914797
>>341915362
I want her to give me a cream pie
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>>341913876
I like young anime girls.
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Rorona is perfect. I would so love a Rorona 2. Also I miss sprites and Arland.
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>>341915018
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>/v/ is still fixated on Arland series

Why are you guys such shitposters
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>>341917802
PIES? SUKI?
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Atelierfags, convince me to finish Rorona+.

I just sort of stopped and never got back into it.
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>>341919010
git gud
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>>341917802
Probably because Sophie was shit.
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I like pies.
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>>341918546
>Escha got an anime instead of literally anything from Arland

Still mad.
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>>341919270
Astrid is such a shit. Literally the worst character in the series.
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>>341920607
Say what you will about Astrid as a person, you can't deny that she has a delicious flat chest.
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>>341920934
Not even DFC can save her, she's that terrible.

I really wanted a Rorona in her 30s.
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>>341920607
>DFC
>Not entirely unappealing
>Directly responsible for loli Rorona

I don't see anything wrong.
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>>341921201
>no loli rorona x cordelia lewds

this is a true crime
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>>341913876
DUDE
I'm about to have some apple pie tonight
it's gonna be banging
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>>341921201
>glasses
>directly responsible for loli Rorona
>hag face
Nope, she's definitely the worst.
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>>341915339
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>>341917802
Ayesha was the only good Dusk
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>>341921619
You just listed two positives, that's not what you're supposed to do if you're trying to justify your dislike for a character.
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>>341919010
You get to be the 1% if you try hard enough. And Rorona is cute.
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>>341913876
I want a pielixir or dunkelpeit.
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>>341922001
>canon rorona panties
>see through camisole
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>>341922134
Thanks Kusogemaru, now I gotta fap to some lewds.
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>>341919010
Rorona+ was the only one I finished. Fuck totori and fuck ayesha. Also fuck sophie, literally the worst one out of the ones I tried.
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>>341913876
I'll give you a creampie.
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>>341922327
I can understand not liking Totori, but Ayesha+ is literally AOAT.
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>>341919010
It's an essential prep for playing Meruru.
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>>341922664
To be honest I thought I should finish the arland trilogy before really getting into ayesha and then after playing totori for 2 hours I fucking gave up on the series.
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Rorona is the best Atelier.
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>>341922327
>>341922664
>>341922682
To be honest, if if I ever beat Rorona+, I'm skipping straight to Meruru.
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>>341922327
How can you not like Totori
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>>341923332
Because she feels like an even bigger retard than rorona. Like you start the fucking game and suddenly some asshole beats up squirrels to impress you then some hulk hogan bitch comes in and slaughters everything and cordelia is still a fucking dwarf. Fuck this game.
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>>341923514
I want to fuck Cordelia.
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>>341923332
Totori is pretty rough in comparison to Meruru and Rorona+ desu, even if she's still cute.
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>>341922835
Ayesha literally has nothing to do with the Arland games, it just builds up a really cool world and then the next game in Dusk just drops the idea entirely for generic hetero love and ripping off MK, fuck you GUST.
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>>341923514
5/10, would chuckle again.
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>>341923592
I'm so mad she wasn't in Meruru.

Fucking bullshit.
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>>341923720
I know that dusk games are different from arland ones and now the book stuff. But it would just feel wierd to drop a trilogy after the first game just to move on to the next trilogy.
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>>341913876
Only exist for lewding
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>>341923813
>No proper scans of this image

Suffering.
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>>341923514
You really should give it a try. The game itself is top notch with a lot more freedom than Rorona and the characters are great. Totori grows up to be very likeable.
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>>341923965
It has less freedom than Rorona, actually. And not nearly as many endings.

But it's still pretty open and that's cool, too bad the combat and area design haven't aged well and Meruru did the achievement thing better.
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>>341923965
>characters are great
The 4 new characters are so great that GUST promptly erased two from memory and turned the 3rd into a generic tsundere lesbian. The remainder is Vagino.
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>>341918546
that's now how fucking cooking works.
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>>341924248
Evidently it works exactly that way.
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>>341924160
Mimi was always gay to a fault.
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>>341924248
It's alchemy
IT JUST WORKS
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Please, someone post the Mimi buttshot compilation.
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>>341924418
>you will never be Mel and grope Mimi's ass
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>>341924076
>It has less freedom than Rorona
Rorona forces you into 3-months assignments so HAVE to focus on that and most areas aren't available until a specific time. Totori gives you 3 years and says do what the fuck you want and areas unlock by raising your rank. How does Rorona have more freedom.

>>341924160
>erased two from memory
You mean just like Tantris and Lionela? They do this every game.

>turned the 3rd into a generic tsundere lesbian.
>turned
She was always a tsundere lesbian.
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Did they even bother to change the animation of items depending on their quality in Sophie? Honestly I dropped the game the moment I beat the final boss demon thingie so I haven't tried crafting shit items / good items to see.
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>>341924679
Tantris and Lionela at least got mentioned.
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>>341924679
You can get assignments done in a month and half or less if the RNG gods favor you and you don't suck balls. Even if Totori gives you three years to fuck around a lot of the areas are gated by progression so you more or less have a set path, and the variety of events, flags and endings in Rorona makes for a more open-ended game in the end.

Totori was one of my favorite Atelier games until I played it again recently, it's not as neatly designed as the other two Arland games (rather, their Plus versions). It's still good, but at the end of the day it was a stepping stone rather than an incredible game on its own.
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>>341923948
It's a B2 wallscroll, it's pretty hard to scan it. I think it's one of the ones I bought from the Gust booth as well.
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>>341924942
So do Melvia and Marc
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Mana Khemia 3 any day now, I can feel it in my bones
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>>341925971
You too? I also feel like it is coming.
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>>341926445
Poor fatty, she deserved much better
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I started with Totori+, then went onto Meruru+ and now I'm working my way through Rorona+. I think Totori definitely has the best story out of all of them, Meruru is just plain fun and Rorona+ is obviously the most polished. Looking forward to Overtime mode.
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>>341925971

It would be nice to get any of the Iris or Mana Khemia games on PSN.
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>>341926445
Piss off, onso.
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>>341913876
NO
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I kind of wanted to see middle aged Rorona instead of generic loli Rorona in Meruru.
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>>341927481
You can fix that in Plus. If only...
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>>341927087
I've always wanted to play these but have been anxious about the time mechanic. How stressful is it and how does it effect the game. Does it ever feel like you're being rushed?
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>>341914358
AI, son.

AI. LIKE. HAMBURGER.
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>>341927636

There is a lot to these games, and while its technically possible to get everything in one go, it's more likely you'll need two or three playthroughs to do everything. Which is fine, there is a lot of content and replayability value. The time mechanic never bothered me that much, in the original Rorona it was fucking horrid but they smoothed everything out in Plus. Totori and Meruru are fine as well. I never felt over pressured to reach a deadline, generally you do the required stuff first and then spend the rest of the time exploring and synthing.
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>>341928046
>love love burger

but that's' retarded
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>>341927481

We all did. Fuck Astrid. At least Plus gives you a proper ending and nice CG.
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>>341928226
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KApBfIrGyzs
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>>341928298
>We all did.

Don't even pretend I share your horrid taste, friend.
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https://youtu.be/3d7_AXOTVaA

Melvia was great, and definitely more useful than Sterk at boss fights. Sterk has that theme though.
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>>341928445
I know it's from Berserk-killer. I'm just saying it's retarded.
>>341928453
you're such a hardcore otaku, anon
go show those normies with your underaged porn
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>>341928453

You disgust me. There are plenty of loli characters, why ruin a perfectly good cake Rorona? Plus she had zero interaction with any fucking characters, ruining any hope of reunions because lol memory wipe.

Fuck Astrid
Fuck Gust
Fuck you and your shit taste.
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>>341928487
I really wish Gio was playable along with Sterk in that game.

Or hell, I'd even accept Rorona or Meruru.
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>>341928613
>Berserk-killer.
Will people ever stop being butthurt over Miura liking japanese things
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>>341928630

Rorona was playable in that game...
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>>341913876
I havent played my totori save in months but I know that she's poor as fuck and it might take luck to get the boat parts built on time. Taking a break was a mistake
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>>341928873
Ah, sorry. I meant the game the video was from. Sterk was literally the only one there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1KNNof5ydw
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I know this is /v/ and I'm going to get a bunch of >implications
for merely asking, but how's the English translation and dub? I'm an Englishfag, so it's kind of a deal breaker for me. I've heard that the general consensus is that Atelier and Disgaea are the only times NISA gave a shit, so I'm somewhat hopeful.
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>>341928487
Melvia is such a slut I can't believe anyone used her.
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I want to finish the Arland trilogy but the loading times on Vita are abysmal
>Enter area
>Loading
>Battle
>Loading
>Battle finish
>Loading
>Another battle
>Loading
>Ad infinitum
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>>341929016

Poor Sterk. He just wants to be a Knight and do Knightly things.
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>>341929314
Totori port is the worst.
But once you've endured original Rorona loading times you are ready for anything.
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>>341929295

Melvia best girl, shut your whore mouth.

>>341929314

Hmm, not like that for me on my Vita.

Also this captcha just asked me to pick out all the pies.
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>>341917802
Because Dusk and Sophie were shit.
Arland are all interconnected and a great trilogy in general as far as games goes.

>>341929249
The only complaint I've seen is the change of a character's family name in order to make a stupid joke ("Estee Dee", lol geddit. Although to be fair "Dee" is a decent last name that suits the universe). Other than that, it's considered to be pretty good.
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>>341929458
I played the original Rorona for a couple in-game months and I still couldn't endure Totori, I stopped playing ages ago to the point that I'll need probably restart.
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>>341929016
He just wanted to talk to pigeons
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>>341929570
>Dusk

Ayesha wasn't shit, the rest sure is though.
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>>341928487
Like what the fuck. Is the artist gay or something? Those girls don't have a pelvic bone whatsoever. They'd die when trying to give birth.
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>>341929570
Ayesha was fun you fag
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>>341929701
Does this man look gay to you?
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>>341929701
No but he cross-dresses as shimakaze
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>>341923332

totori was my first atelier game and the process to getting the perfect ending just seems brutal

my first ending was getting told to give up
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since this is an atelier thread i wanna ask: do they explain how and why logy is in atelier sophie? is he gonna be a pamela-type character?
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>>341929576

God, I tried the original Rorona on PS3 and couldn't stand it. The graphics, the mechanics, just awful. Then when Totori+ came out, I learned you could make her fall down using the touch screen and immediately bought that and a Vita. I'm on Rorona+ and it is miles better than the original.
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>>341929939
Wait, there's no Pamela in Sophie?
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>>341929918

You're not gonna get the perfect ending on your first playthrough. Generally you just do one playthrough for fun and make the best weapons and armor that you can. Then you can go for the actual perfect playthrough.
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>>341929972
The models were cute, especially Astrid and Cordelia. Only model that improved from Rorona to Rorona+ was Rorona herself.
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>>341929663
Was talking about the trilogies overall. Should of clarified, sorry.
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>>341930085
pamela is in sophie, my question was asking if logy's gonna end up like her where he becomes a recurring character
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>>341929797
>tfw nobody told him Pamela is a ghost in Rorona
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dumb animeNEETs
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>>341915362
>>341915435
Don't worry senpaitachi, got your back
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>>341930412
I hate NISA.
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>>341930409
Rorona is better than most anime.
It's like if KyoAni if KyoAni wasn't otaku-pandering shit. So full of comfy.
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>>341930856
comfy is a NEET shibboleth
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>>341929570
Dusk games are interconnected too and Sophie is a new trilogy. Only Totori was good from Arland, the new games are much better with massive upgrades like removing the time limit. Based GUST knows what the fans want.
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>>341930714
Why? It's a small jape referring to an English word that only an English speaking audience would understand. Quit getting triggered
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>>341930906
>only NEETs can feel comfy

You are beyond retarded.
But not as retarded as this guy:
>>341930908
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I'm interested in the Arland trilogy but it's a pretty heft sum of money to drop on something I might not like.

I want to play Totori's game though.
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>>341931010
It's basically NISA shoe-horning their shit into the game. Their butchering of text along with censorship and removing gameplay features is why NISA has such a shit reputation.
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I like Rorona.

I hate pie.
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>>341931272
I want to impregnate Totori
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Reminder that people who dislike time limits are filthy casuals.
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>>341931272

Arland+ trilogy on the Vita is 80 bucks. Pretty good deal considering you get 3 games. I'd recommend starting with Totori's because you don't really need to play Rorona storywise, and it's also the oldest. Consequently, Rorona+ is the newest one, despite chronologically being the oldest and now has added story featuring Totori and Meruru.
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>>341931303
>Their butchering of text along with censorship and removing gameplay features is why NISA has such a shit reputation.

>Censorship
Oh one of these faggots.
You are aware that Arland is considered to be one of their best translations, right?
Then again, I bet you thought kusoge like Criminal Girls was a big deal.

CHOO-CHOO! ALL ABOARD THE ATELIER-THREAD-RUINED-BY-LOCALIZATION-DISCUSSION TRAIN
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Reminder that people who like time limits are slaves to the system
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One day I want to try this series. I really like the artstyle and character design of the PS3 games but I also want a game with some depth to the battle system and no filler random battles. I'm not particularly interested in the crafting part either.

Mana Khemia's battle system looks interesting but how similar is it to the main series? Should I start there or should I play Arland first?
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The Arland translations are fine. If you've watched anime, you know enough Japanese to tell when the translation goes blatantly off script, which it rarely does. The only things that really spring to mind is occasionally they will use some pun in english.
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>>341931653
You asked why NISA is shit, not why Arland is shit. I still consider Arland good.

The vast majority of NISA translations barely resemble the original script.
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>>341931910
>no filler random battles
>not particularly interested in the crafting part either.
You are going to have a shitty time no matter which Atelier you pick
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>>341925239
How much did it cost?
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>>341931914
I'm not disagreeing. But I'm also saying that NISA is pretty golden when it comes to their own products by NIS and the Arland trilogy.
>vast majority

Maybe this is where we can just agree to disagree. Let's not ruin the thread because I like the English translation of Arland and you don't.
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>>341931641

It was $40 during the Golden Week sale.
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>>341932001
5k yen
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>>341931010
I bet you thought changing Esty Erhard to Esty Dee was funny, too.
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>>341931910

One thing that takes getting used to is that the crafting system is the game. It's an alchemy game and the crafting system is super deep, to the point where you're manipulating traits so you can put them on carry over items so you can later melt them down in New Game Plus so you can craft even better shit.

I've played Totori, Meruru and am playing through Rorona+ and the thing that always kicks me in the ass is that I forget to keep up with my crafting. The battle system isn't that deep and the max level is 50. It really comes down to your items and equipment in the end. You can be level 50 but if your items and equipment aren't up to spec, you'll be getting your ass kicked by endgame, and postgame is an entirely different monster. It's fun though, and the New Game+ really helps a lot. If you want to go full Autismo, there are tons of guides and wikis about the crafting which will help you do insane things like the postgame dungeons. I find myself spending hours trying to get the right traits,but it's worth it watching your characters crit people for thousands and inflicting ALL THE STATUS EFFECTS on them at the same time.
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>>341931910

>I'm not particularly interested in the crafting part either

Skip this series. Alchemy is more important than combat. In the Arland games combat is rudimentary at best.
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>>341932110
NISA isn't really that bad until they touch meme trash like Neptunia, but there's always a bunch of stupid translations in the game that don't fit the context and are really fucking jarring.
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>Acquire max moneys in Shallie
>It's utterly worthless
W H Y
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>>341932362
How is Atelier combat any worse than your typical turnbased combat exactly?
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>>341932496
But Neptunia is meme trash even in the Jap versions and IFI versions. I tell you this as a Nep-nep fan. She's just supposed to be a dumb, social-security tier character.
That said, NISA's take on the Neptunia franchise was pretty godawful, especially when compared to the Rebirth games.
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>>341930091
part of me really wishes there was better ng+ transfer in these games. I like all these better boots and convenience items but if none of them carry over it just means you redo them every single time.

i just really would love to have stuff like those travel time reduction shoes the entire ng+

granted i only played like one ps2 game and rorona+, keep wanting to get ayesha i think, whichever has the blond, i have a weakness for stupid blond girls.

fuck Astrid, fuck every single aspect of this character and people who put characters like this in fiction.
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>>341923948
Best I could do for you.
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>>341932537
It's not that bad, but it's not like it's great either. It's definitely not a selling point, so if that guy wants a good combat system he's looking at the wrong game.
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>>341932537

Every character has a few skills which cost MP, then they can block for or attack with the main character depending on the assist gauge. There is also an ultimate that charges during the battle. That's it. The combat system is very simple and rudimentary, the focus is on crafting and the items and armor and weapons, which can inflict status effects, change turn order, and generally outscale the abilites late and postgame.
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>>341923813
where can I buy this online?
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>>341932739
Fucking SAMPLE text. Thanks regardless, though.
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I have the Japanese version of Ayesha should I play it
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>>341932964
do you know japanese
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>>341933020
no
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>>341932537
altelier combat exists for the crafting porn aspect of it, not the enjoyment of the combat itself.

if you are the kind of person who get boners making broken as fuck Op gear for people, and broken super bombs that do massive overkill amounts of damage to shit altelier combat is appealing, the actual combat itself is as stock as it comes otherwise.
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>>341932724

There is better NG transfer, but you have to go deep down the autism crafting rabbit hole. Generally for the Arland series, what transfers over is your equipped weapons, armor, accessories, and some development items. Now what you can do is put a bunch of traits on these things, put them on characters you don't have kitted out to max, and then melt them down later so you have the best traits early on in the game. What's even better is that early on in the game, you can fail synthesis and then you get a broken item, which can than be turned into a supplement, which you can then turn into anything. Anything in the series can be turned into anything else, you just have to find the right steps to do it.
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>>341932537

It's not, it's just not better. It's extremely basic, and does what it needs to do so you can get on to the actual meat of the game. Combat isn't really worth a fuck until the endgame, and even that's just to flex your alchemic muscle more than anything else. It's less about it becoming great and more about flaunting your top tier items.
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>>341933073
probably not a great idea
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>>341918546
Escha would be my favorite if she wasn't such a fucking slut
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>>341923813
please tell me where i can buy this online
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>>341932638
I don't know about Neptunia since I've never touched any of them, but I found NISA's translation of Rorona to be pretty bad at times. Rewriting dialogue just so you can put references in it or make it sound wacky sounds weird. Especially when it's dual audio so I can listen to it the original dialogue and it's only vaguely similar.
It's not that terrible since the original meaning does still get across, but it's not good either. I'd really prefer if they'd just translate instead of trying to improve things and failing at it.
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>>341932724
All that crap transfers in rorona+ on top of gear and cash. I wish it was the same in totori, with her tiny inventory and ability to bleed days via travel and gather times.
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>>341933109
true but what i mean is like I kinda wish things like the boots, etc would carry over too. you don't' 'need' the boots sure but times like that are perfect ng+ rewards.
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>>341933332
To each his own, I suppose.
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>>341919010
I played up till the post game then decided to beat totori and Meruru before finishing the post game for reasons
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Is this yuri?
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>>341933439
You could carry over the shoes that lower travel time in Totori, iirc.
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>>341932783
>Every character has a few skills which cost MP, then they can block for or attack with the main character depending on the assist gauge. There is also an ultimate that charges during the battle. That's it.
That's what a turnbased RPG combat is.
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>>341933497

In Rorona+ those things carry over. Can't remember if they do in Meruru as well.
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>>341933332
nisa seem depending on the game to give less shits about the 'integrity' of the translation and more likely to do whatever amused them during work.

i can understanding changing a name that's a pun to preserve the pun, but wasn't Esty Dee literally just they inserted a random joke 'because'?
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>>341933653
people pretend it is
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>>341932964
>>341933073
lol eop then why do you buy japanese gams?
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>>341933157
I thought as much

>>341933898
got it for free
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https://www.amazon.com/Atelier-Kishida-Merurulince-Rorolina-Totooria/dp/B01GQBYSRM/ref=sr_1_93?ie=UTF8&qid=1466300803&sr=8-93&keywords=atelier+rorona+wall

what are the chances of this not being shit? and is this a wallscroll?
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>>341929249
Partial dub. You'll get a whole lotta silence for scenes that were voiced in the japanese dub. Also totori is just flat out missing some sound effects I think. But as for voice quality, it's actually quite good. I like pretty much everyone in the arland dubs. Dusk I didn't like as much, especially Logy. Sounded like they got some guy off the streets and he was reading all the lines like he's reading it straight from the script in a monotone voice.

And for translation quality, like the other anon said, Arland has the STD joke(FUCK YOU NISA). But other than that, arland has a good translation with few errors. However, Dusk got translated by some 2 bit company that doesn't know the meaning of spellcheck or QA. So you have typos out the ass. A lot of things like text overflow. And I don't think they ever fixed their "sting" typo.

I did all my first runs in arland on english. Did ayesha and shallie on english too. I only had to change for E&L.
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>>341933760
I don't think any of the beneficial decor stays just your gear equipped and cash, I keep meaning to finish totori for the first time but get lost trying to figure out what I was working towards. At least she's cobalt license but the rest is s disaster
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>>341933768

By a few, I mean less than 5 generally. Again combat is not the main focus of these games.
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>>341929939
I don't dislike logy but I don't think he's good enough to be some iconic atelier character. I'd rather have hagel back.
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>>341934165
is there anyway to find out who english voiced the Ghost girl in the Arland games, specifically Rorona+. something about her voice was just the fucking perfect husky I need to know who she was.
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>>341934165
Estee Dee is cute, senpai
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>>341934198

Go check the help option in the menu, it will tell you what you currently have to do.
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>>341932528
You can't even get 1 million, which is kind of funny because Shallotte mentions wanting to get 1 million at a point.
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So is the max level in Sophie really 20?
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>>341929249
>Rorona's delicious North Dakota "No's" in the dub

It's petty good
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>>341933653

The main character always has a gay best friend. Cordelia, Mimi, Keina.
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>>341934010
>bootleg wallscroll
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>>341934574
Yes, but you continue to accumulate skill points after you reach level 20, which kind of act as further levels, since they let you enhance your stats and/or abilities
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>>341934471
voice is fine, character is fine. the Name change is not fine.

isn't she voiced by Julie Ann Taylor, aka Cordelia chick in eng?
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>>341913876
I want to creampie her
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>>341931272
There's the bundle on vita. I would recommend waiting next year for the sale. Unless you have the money to spend and really wanna play it now. It hit $40(with PS+) which I think is really great for 3 great games.

To each his own, but don't listen to this bozo >>341931641
You miss out on the relationship between cordelia and rorona and sterk's fall into chaos.
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>>341934853
So you continue to learn new skills or the ones you end up with get stronger?
Also, if i'm around level 16 then that must mean i'm getting pretty close to the end huh? Does the game end if I beat the story final boss or am I free to do whatever I want after that?
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>>341934853
It's like they went "we're too lazy to do the rest of the leveling system, you figure it out yourself"
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>>341934883

Cordelia and Rorona's relationship is still there in Totori+. Sterk's fall into chaos is still there. I played Totori+ first and it was fine, now playing Rorona+ is even more rewarding because I can see things being set up, especially some added scenes they did with Esty and Cordelia. Plus out of all the Arland's Totori is the only one that has a plot that can be actually spoiled, and is talked about in Meruru+ and Rorona+. Also it would be hard to go from Rorona+ which is the most advanced one to Totori+ which is the least advanced one.
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>>341935006
You learn new passives, and turn your previous skills into stronger versions of themselves

>>341935048
I mean it's basically the same thing but with more choice and without an extra level number
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>>341935048
to be fair level itself matters for shit in these games, as eventually you make broken gear that is allowing you to withstand even more broken bonus foes, having the level end early while you keep getting the thing you really need kinda makes sense.
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>>341934474
I mean I know I need to build the boat but I need some recipes like the spring cup still. Sterk and melvina can't carry totori into the newest shit anymore it's rough out there
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>>341934783
how can you tell, especially if i can't find anything about it other than from amazon? wheres the original?
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>>341934857
Meh, immature joke aside, Dee is still a cute last name. Besides, not like you see it used all the time.
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>>341934381
Really? Actually I don't really like Pamela's english or japanese voice.
Well I just popped in the game to check the credits and the english va isn't even listed but googling it worked.
http://voiceacting.wikia.com/wiki/Brianne_Siddall
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>>341934295
>By a few, I mean less than 5 generally. Again combat is not the main focus of these games.
I'm not disagreeing with you that Atelier combat is basic, but you sound like someone who's literally never played any other turnbased games.
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>>341934381
Good luck finding that out. Rorona and Pamela's english VAs are a complete mystery, but I want to hear them giving blowjobs.
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>>341935368
Gio driving sterk insane and still being a cane wielding pimp
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>>341935814
Cherami Leigh voiced Rorona
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>>341935595

Melvina can carry fucking anything, her debuff is especially good for bosses. Sterk is good for waveclearing small mobs, but against a singular enemy I prefer Mel. Swap Sterk out for Mimi, she's a fucking speed demon who runs on the power of friendship and will end up attacking a billion times. Or you could just go the EZ mode and get Rorona so you have two item chuckers. Again these games are less about the combat and more about the craft. Endgame and postgame, you're gonna need some good bombs and elixirs, as well as crafted equipment.
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>>341934857
It is Julie Ann Taylor. But cordelia is done by Wendee Lee. Unless you meant another cordelia from a different game.
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>>341935730
in principle I resent changing character names randomly. it'd be one thing if her Japanese name was itself a similar joke (like I can accept Kuma becoming teddie in Eng because it's the same core joke) but it's pretty much they throw out her name for a random ''Esty Dee, we are so le witty'

>>341935784
it's less really thinking the voice fits as much as 'i want to know who this woman is and hear her talk more" I really like women with distinct voices

thanks anon btw.
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>>341936150
>it'd be one thing if her Japanese name was itself a similar joke
I heard someone claim before that it actually IS a similar joke, but they never explained it.
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>>341930412
I completed Rorona years ago, and somehow this completely fucking escaped me. I'm fucking ashamed.
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>>341936112
fire emblem Cordelia specifically

>>341935997
welp i guess i can add another reason to like herbeside voicing best blond in fairy tail.
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>>341936219
It's not. Her original name is Erhart. Unless there's some joke I'm missing. It's just a german name.
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>>341936219
i'd buy it with proof, otherwise Nisa have a rep of being a bit too arbitrary with their flavor additions to give benefit of the doubt.
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>>341936490
Yeah that's what I mean, they said it's some sort of slang or whatever with the japanese pronounciation.
Could be bullshitting, but who knows.
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>>341936219
NISA themselves have said it was a bad move and they're sorry they did it. It was all them.
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>>341936692
Ah, I guess anon was wrong then.
In that case, fuck them.
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>>341922937
Why would you skip the best game, you shitposter?
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>>341936927
I felt sorry for the living pie.
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Could someone give me the Jap name to serach for "Linca" on pixiv? Please I need to fap and I can't figure this shit out
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>>341937107
Rorona is a monster.
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>>341936927
>Rorona becomes Hitler
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>>341937204
Rorona is just an idiot who means well.

Astrid is the monster.
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>>341924418
I think Mel had a thing for these two's armpits.
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>>341937204
Both a Dummy and a Genius, you can blame Astrid for everything that happened as a result of the Baking ban.

My favorite was when she turned the Philosopher's Stone into a pie.
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>>341937339
Astrid's not bad in the first game. She's kind of terrible, but it's mostly just entertaining.
It sucks that they turned her into such an awful bitch in Meruru.
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>>341937475
idiot savant clearly
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>>341937475
Now that I think about it, it's disappointing that there hasn't been any sort of crazy side goal like the pie events in Rorona since.
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>>341937182
There's not much
http://www.pixiv.net/search.php?s_mode=s_tag&word=%E3%83%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AB%E3%80%80%E3%82%A2%E3%83%88%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A8&abt=y
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>>341937475
>Become the ultimate pie maker in the land
>create philosophers stone by accident
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>>341937663
Arigato anon
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>>341937609

Yeah definitely not.
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>>341937506
the problem is she never gets comeuppances for anything and never DOES fucking anything. she's a lazy petty selfish pervert shitter who the game just through sheer force of plot forces to be good at stuff.

If you look at her just in the scope of just Rorona she's tolerable, lazy shitty master who once you prove you are as good as she knows you can be fucks off to let you enjoy life doing what you were good at.

but the more she's around, the more flanderized she gets and it just highlights how awful she is. perfectly illustrated by what she does to Rorona. entirely for her own fucking perverted needs she turns someone against their will into what 'she' wants, and the game acts like this is a ok.
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>>341937609
I love how dead Astrid's eyes are in the second panel as she realises just what she has created through her own laziness.
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Rorona's full name is Rorolina.
Which in Japanese is something like Rororina

Her parents are Ryan and Laura or Ryan or Raura

Ryan + Raura = Rororina?
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Anyone know how to get the DLC for Ayesha on cfw PS3?
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>>341937609

What about the potion of youth or the quest to become the strongest superhero?
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>>341938276
seems about right. Japanese seem to like naming children in combinations of the parents syllables.

Rau- Ra- Reyan- a
Rorolina
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>>341938116
That's what I'm complaining about. In the first game she does care about Rorona and is willing to do things for her, and she is helping behind the scenes, even if she's not obvious about it. In Meruru they just forgot about that and she's a bitch who has zero empathy for anyone. It sucks.
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>Someone makes a decent-looking Linca in AA2
>No card
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>>341937609
I guess that's what happens when I completely ignore one party member each game.
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>>341938564
that's; flanderization in a nutshells sadly. the original appearance she's awful but you know she cares, in her own way. later appearances just take her 'Schick' of lazy lesbian antics further and further until you have Loli rorona and it becomes 'dear god, she's just a monster'.
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>>341936791
That's a really pathetic reason to skip a great franchise. It's one last name and like that other anon said, you don't even see family names that often. You'll just see "Esty".
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>>341938680

It's hard, because there are a lot, each with their own story. Usually I play the game once and make the best equipment I can and then use a guide for subsequent playthroughs to get everything.
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>>341939362
was she a lesbian who married out of obligation or just a straight girl gay for Rorona? i can't remember
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>>341939640
You can't really blame her for raping Rorona. I would, too.
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>>341939541
I should have expected that sort of stuff the second his eng voice was Liam o Brian, but all i could think was 'Ooo Liam as a knight, i bet this will end cute"
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>>341939741
Oh I don't blame her there either, I just can't remember her personality. I know she was one of many girls who molested the poor dumb girl, but i can't remember if she was an Astrid style full gay, or just more the 'horny as fuck widow' type.
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>>341939640

She just got drunk. Women in the Arland universe get gay when they get drunk.
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>>341940042
So Mimi is hammered 24/7?
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