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>tfw butthurt McCree shitters and Widow mains
Feels good man
>>341859263
So good
>no dva buff
Didn't they promise this as well
>>341859358
Yep I think they did. I think they are planning on making her more mobile while firing
>>341859263
But they're both still good
>>341859396
Nah mac reee is bretty bad now senpai.
>>341859396
Yes, good. It's okay they are >good<. Because before the nerf they were blatantly OP as fuck
>>341859467
>If I keep saying it maybe people won't destroy my butthole with him.
Nice try cutie.
>>341859263
The only thing that changed for McCree is that you need to actually think before you approach other people
You can still proceed to kill everyone else like before.
>>341859528
>\you need to think
False.
I can still dispose of pretty much anyone that isn't a tank in one go as Mccree
>>341859528
He can't melt tanks anymore like he used to. He's good at what he's supposed to be good at now. Stopping Tracers, Genjis and Lucios
>>341859528
*Tanks not people
>>341859467
>mcree is not op now
Fixd.
>>341859263
They still need to reduce the AoE of the flashbang.
>>341859578
He needs double fans now to completely wreck tanks.
>>341859592
>>341859578
>He can't one shot tanks so he shouldn't try.
He still out dps them by a mile.
>>341859467
not at all, his left click is still the same. So if you know how to aim he's fine
>>341859687
He can only wreck Zarya even with double Fan. Remember that Roadhog will just eat the damage with 600 hp, and that all the other tanks has armor which negates a lot of the damage
>>341859467
Nooe he's good now.
>>341859892
Hammer fanning into Zarya's shield makes her laser so strong.
I find it hilarious that his hammer fan can fail to kill even Tracer now if he misses shots. It deters a lot of the retards from playing him now.
>>341859263
kek I just noticed that the JUST hair is used to make the beard
>>341859687
It's a team game
He is DPS
He can do good DPS
>widow mains
>butthurt
you do realize nothing of value was changed for widow right?
she still solo's entire enemy teams
>>341859263
JUST- UGH
>>341859467
Both of them require headshots to be good now, so shitters are btfo while it encourages people to actually learn how to play.
>>341860103
Not at all my experience since the nerf, way less people pick her too
>>341859263
The patch only made shitters butthurt. It didn't affect good Widowmakers at all.
>>341860103
>>341860226
At least they fixed that autistic *scope-unscope-scope-unscope* BS that gave her ridiculous fire rate
i like the nerfs. i felt like an asshole playing mcree before.
Does he take skill now
>>341859467
McCree can still stun fan every attack character besides Reaper, every support, and every defense besides Bastion he just isn't also doing 400 damage to tanks anymore.
>>341859263
As a frequent Zenyatta player this is the best damn thing that has happened
as a mcree player, the debuff hasn't messed with me too bad. I just can't really delete tanks anymore.
>>341859263
GJ blizzard you made two of the most fun heroes shit.
>>341860606
The amount of peace and tranquility I feel when I get a shutdown POTG with Zen is just pure bliss.
>>341860537
How much damage fan does now?
>>341860612
which is what made mcree feel the scummiest.
>>341860702
>BUTTHURT
>>341860763
6*45
>>341860763
22.5-45 * 6 bulltets = 135-270
>>341860851
Why it can't kill reaper then?
>>341860785
I don't disagree, they definatly balanced him. I'm just saying the overall play style and combo of mcree hasn't changed. except when dealing with tanks.
>>341860758
>tfw he's my favorite hero
>never got PoTG
>>341860925
It still can, the guy you were talking to earlier probably assumed you wouldn't be kissing a Reaper.
IT'S HIGH-
>>341860986
Am sorry to hear that, if it means anything, it's taken so many games as him to get a single POTG, I just had given up hope.
So thats it, LOSE ALL HOPE AND THE GODS WILL PROVIDE.
>>341859358
It's definitely happening but I don't think they had figured it out yet, all they know is that they don't want to increase her damage
>round in hanamura
>mei keeps griefing us in attack
>"dude, stop, what the fuckis your problem?"
>"they nerfed my widowmaker main, i used to quickscope and play aggressively, now since blizzard hates fun, i'm having fun the only way i know, by griefing my team, and there's nothing you can do about it :)"
>literally everyone laughs at him
>after the round ends he ragequits
>mfw
>>341861159
Fuck that achievement where you have to get 4 kills with a dead-eye. HOW BLIZZARD
>>341861160
Always cool to find nice people here, I'll keep that in mind for when I finally reach it. At least I got gold in eliminations / objective kills / damage several times because sometimes I play decently and I think I'm progressing.
Now if they'll just bring Reapers health down to a sensible 200, I'll be truly happy.
>>341861257
>he still didnt get it
scrub
protip: flank, hide, spam q and freeze them all
>>341861257
I never looked at the achievements, only those I got. When I see the requirements, I always think "wow, did I really do THAT ? rad"
>>341860986
>got a few for him
>it's always really boring and doesn't show cool stuff like headshoting Pharas
>>341861324
>Now if they'll just bring Reapers health down to a sensible 200, I'll be truly happy.
>>341861376
Call me again when you're over level 20 and people aren't absolute retards
Anyone else experiencing massive FPS drops after the last patch?
I went from 90-110 FPS steady to 60 and dropping down to as low as 10 for a few second at a time. Boggles the mind.
>>341861324
This. He already can make himself invincible and get health that way from somewhere if you are unlucky, because he is simply faster then.
>>341859263
>See the same person has been a widow for the past 2 games
>Doing absolutely nothing to help their team
>Decide to go Winston and fuck with them
>They lose without pushing to cart to even the first point
>The widowmaker starts shouting about people using characters that don't have to aim and take no skill
Anyone who mains widowmaker is a complete shitter and needs to consider suicide.
>>341861509
Not for me but I have definitely heard a lot of people reporting this issue in matches I have played
>>341861486
i'm level 220
and i tell you, you don't know how to play mccree if you never got a quadruple kill with deadeye
>>341861596
>you don't know how to play mccree
That's basically a compliment
>>341861596
>level 220
damn son
>>341861509
even lowered the settings all the way down to Low for shits and giggles. Same exact issue even then.
>>341861706
i know, he was extremely easy to play before the patch, now he's just "good"
>>341861770
i have no life
>>341861596
>push q
>kill 4
So hard. All you need is timing and/or stupid enemies.
>>341861324
Lets not, hes fine at the moment.
Mei having 250 health doesn't make sense.
>>341861879
as one anon said earlier in a similar thread, this game in high mmr is all about which team coordinates their ults in the best optimal way, and nothing else
the skill ceiling of this game is your team
>>341861852
That's 219 crates from levels, how many legendaries do you have (excluding cases you bought if you did)?
>>341862102
i bought 100 crates
i'd say i have almost 1/4 of them
>>341861324
Reaper is perfectly balanced. His skills are all very slow and require good planning to use.
>>341862175
>i bought 100 crates
>>341860606
>tfw get a POTG, 90% of match on fire, and 11 votes on zen
feels good familia
>>341862054
>>341862198
>He's fine at the moment
t.Reaper main
There is no reason for Reaper to have that much health, it doesn't make any sense
blizzard should modify potg so that you can't get it from using your ult
Will you just find skins without paying or are they exclusively a pay to use thing? Like can I find them for free like TF2's hats but they are incredibley rare?
>>341862485
This so much
>>341862513
You get skins by unboxing loot crates. You get 1 loot crate for every time you rank up, OR you can buy lootboxes for real money if you choose to
>>341860925
0,7s stun, fan takes a second
If reaper is at full hp he can hold down shift and escape
>>341860986
Shit anon I play a lot of Zarya, like every potg has been set up by me
>>341859578
Genji is a McCree counter now. You get a lot more time to react now as genji.
>>341862392
This, honestly. There are way too many times where I'm constantly hitting a Reaper, but I'm just short of killing him when I have to reload and he ghost modes to the nearest health pack.
He's not necessarily OP, but the game is very forgiving to Reapers who get caught in a bad fight.
>>341859263
Feel like the mcree nerf missed the mark, you can still double fan most tanks to death or near death but at the same time it's now more RNG based if you kill who you are supposed to counter which is tracer and genji. Should have made it where the first 3 bullets do full damage,then it tapers off . That way his main targets get countered but his non counters don't get blown up as well.
>>341862717
It's why the nerf failed, both tracer and genji are a fuckload stronger this patch
>>341861247
>main
why would you main in a game about switching chars to counter
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No one can hide from my sight
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>We have reduced how quickly Widowmaker generates her ultimate
t-thanks
>>341859263
They actually made widowmaker better. Her body shot damage is reduced and her head shot damage is boosted. It's a lot more fun to play with an incentive to get head shots.
>>341863695
Headshot dmg was kept the same at 300
>>341863695
HS damage is the same famalan
>>341863503
This so much. Hanzo gets his ult every 30 secs when hes on fire. He gets on fire after his first ult
>>341861257
At least you aren't trying to get the D.VA 4 man kill. Her ult is the only one with the big ass caution sign.
>>341862392
>>341862907
>why does the hero who needs to be within 5ft of anyone to do any damage have a slightly beefier health pool?!
>>341863769
>>341863939
>>341861324
I'd say Reaper gets that extra 50 because unlike 76 and some of the other attackers, he needs to be right up in someone's face to do anything more than dva tier damage.
>>341859263
Widowmaker wasnt even nerfed. Bodyshots are for shitters. Headshot is same dmg. Youll still get the widowmaker on your team that cant hit the ocean from the harbour. McCree still shits on everyone close range. Just because a tank can survive with a sliver of health left doesnt mean that tank can kill McCree. He'll just finish the tank off a couple seconds later and maybe get hit once. His ult still clears the objective for 10 full seconds or kills everyone out in the open. And it still resets to 50% meter if he lets the time run out/no one shows up. He still has huge range and can basically snipe long range.
They are both the best still - widow just requires someone that can aim a little better now, so youll have even shittier widows on your team every time. McCree is bsaically unchanged since kills everyone worthwhile still in one burst.
>>341864017
Yea wtf is up with that.
>>341864182
Yes retard, it says right there that base damage has been reduced to 12. That's a 120 bodyshot x 2.5 on if headshot which is = 300
>>341864182
Headshot is still 300 dmg. THe multiplier change makes it the nerf only affect body shots. Theres like 5 people that take 1 more body shot to kill (zenyatta most noteable one). Its an insignificant nerf in every conceivable way.
>>341864182
Math anon
>>341859263
Most good ones are actually happy with the nerf since there won't be shitters playing McCree and Widow
Like this guy who relies exclusively on fan the hammer >>341859467
>>341864017
>>341864294
you need a Mei to support you
Best to do it after a team kill and have mei block off a choke point
>>341864349
I apparently can't math.
I apologize for my autism and I prostrate myself before you.
>>341864017
>>341864294
Tracers bomb has it too. If you use it properly and drop it on their heads it doesn't show up until its within its lower damage range and by then it's already falling onto them. As long as they don't have a good mei or a Reinhardt you'll get it eventually.
That or team up with a decent Zarya
>>341859358
Yes, but they explicitly said it would be after the nerfs. They said they weren't too sure how they wanted to buff her, perhaps damage or survivability, but not both.
>>341859263
I never had a problem wrecking widow's shit. It's like the same whiners who complained about bastion, they were just too stupid to counter widow.
I consistently wrecked widow with pharah all the time. A few nights ago we were on Kings Attack, and I watched as my team charged in one by one into the enemy widows line of sight and die.
I even had to point it out to them how retarded they were but nope, still lost.
>>341862175
>i bought 100 crates
how does it feel to be cancer
>>341864685
You are either under lvl 20 or playing on console
>>341859358
Also, I like how any little tidbit of information or intent communicated by the developer, either through official channels or informally, with or without selective hearing, becomes a "promise".
>>341862392
>Close range combatant, meaning he does literally nothing if hes not putting himself in danger
>Death Blossom is only good if the enemy team has the reaction time of a snail and no sound on
>It's also countered by literally everything
>Shadow step makes him incredibly vulnerable, is slow as fuck and is incredibly obvious
>Wraith form is 8s and lasts for 3 seconds
It's really easy to kill and counter reaper if you have half a brain, hes also easy to run away from.
You could argue that:
"But other heroes have only 150/200 health and they have to be in close range too!"
Most of them have better escapes/abilities compared to reaper.
>>341864650
If they actually want her to function as a tank her survivability in the mech needs to be increased. Either remove crit box or massively boost HP
>>341864173
Slightly beefier is an understatement, the amount of times I've hit reaper at point blank and have him calmly turn around and kill me is ridiculous. 250 is overkill, and you know it.
>>341864748
on pc, level 50ish.
>>341859263
it's not even that much of a nerf to provoke any tears
he can still melt almost everything away in an instant
>>341859263
>McCree is now just worse 76
t-thanks Blizzard
>>341859263
>cant melt mei and reaper now
it sucks
>>341860103
She can't OSK Zenyatta and Tracer anymore, but more importantly, the scope nerf means she lost a lot of mobility and damage potential in the hands of a good player.
>>341864906
Why are you in reapers range in the first place?
>>341864173
>Needs to be within 5ft
That's why he has a teleport, ghost mode, and heals off dead enemies.
I BOUGHT 50 CRATES
I have
Toa Roadhog
Valk Mercy
Noire Widow
Comtesse Widow
Junker D.va
Siberian Front Zarya
Gearbot Bastion
Woodbot Bastion
Sparrow Genji
Firefighter Mei
Mariachi Reaper
Chopper Torbjorn
Sunyatta Zenyatta
Irfrit Zenyatta
14 Legendaries and 1100 currency, and then the epic skins and intros i dont bother with
Im level 62. I could buy whatever I want but nothing interests me currently, probably save for the Summer skins theyre releasing
>>341859892
>which negates a lot of the damage
not that much actually since damage absorption is capped at 5, so with fth only ~11% get absorbed
Where's the change log?
>>341865008
Seriously, I kept playing McRee after the nerf because I've always used the left click more anyway but if someone gets even remotely close to you you're fucked. And killing tracer is impossible unless it's point blank.
>>341865145
Because I was sneaking up behind him.
>>341865269
>but if someone gets even remotely close to you you're fucked.
You mean except that you can still gib 90% of the cast? What the fuck
>And killing tracer is impossible unless it's point blank.
E+rightclick? Flashbang has pretty big range
>>341860606
In like fucking 200+ games I've never seen a Zeyatta get a potg
Literally 0
>>341864685
>I consistently wrecked widow with pharah all the time.
You're probably in a really low MMR or just playing godawful Widows then. Widow hardcounters Pharah if she can aim at all.
>>341865353
>Sneaking up behind someone with two shotguns
????
>>341859263
Now all they need to do is nerf junkrat into the ground and the game is perfect
>>341865394
Ive gotten at least 5 potgs in my 24 games of zenyatta, he does a lot of damage
>>341859263
>i keep running into mccrees as reinhardt that try to solo me with right click and get fucked up by my rocket hammer
this nerf is the best because it hasn't sunken in for most people yet
>>341865216
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overwatch+patch+notes
If you hold your right click when you play Zenyatta, it will charge his shot.
>>341865461
Because I forget myself sometimes and assume out of the kindness of my heart that a company that makes games professionally wouldn't have a character that can tank 3 grenades and kill someone in under 2 seconds.
>>341859263
It's pretty hilarious, but unfortunately I had some McCree """mains""" in my stack that now can't kill as well as they said they could before. These are the type of people that scream MEI OP.
>>341865269
you can still flashbang + left click her
>>341864247
>Widowmaker wasnt even nerfed. Bodyshots are for shitters
against a mobile tracer one-hit-kill bodyshots are a godsend. And 90% of the widows ive seen are just bodyshotters. Its easier to play it safe and do damage that way than going for headshots and miss
>>341865269
>And killing tracer is impossible unless it's point blank
Doesn't flashbang do 25 damage and a closerange headshot 140? Just headshot her.
>>341865531
Why nerf junkrat and what about him?
>>341865793
His damage output is absolutely insane
Any other hero i'm cool with but junkrat makes me rage every single time
>>341865384
>>E+rightclick? Flashbang has pretty big range
fan does 45 per shot. Means you need 4 shots to connect. The fan is 1 second, flashbang 0.7 seconds. So you better pray all the first 4 bullets hit. And with the wide shot after the first few bullets that isnt always the case. Currently its better to flashbang+headshot.
>genji potg
Activates sword and kills like 3
>McCree potg
High Noon
>Phrarah potg
Q
>Reaper potg
Q
>Soldier 76 potg
Q
>Tracer potg
Q and rare
>Bastion potg
holding down the fire button
>Hanzo potg
random Q at wall
>Junkrat potg
Q
>Mei potg
Doesn't exist
>Torbjorn potg
being afk
>Widowmaker potg
Shooting at big hitboxes
>D.Va potg
Doesn't exist
>Reinhardt potg
Q and actual skill and it's rare
>Roadhog potg
Q and rare
>Winston potg
Doesn't exist
>Zarya potg
Q and lob shots
>Lucio potg
Rare but only knocking some people off the map
>Mercy potg
Q
>Symmetra
being afk
>Zenyatta
Doesn't exist x2
THEY REALLY NEED TO CHANGE THE POTG SYSTEM BECAUSE ITS FUCKING BORING
>>341865881
The only way his damage output is "insane" is if you literally stand still and let him direct impact you with every grenade
The only thing minorly annoying is it rips through Reinhardts shield
Stop being shit
>>341865881
68 levels in and I was tolerant of him, but then I died to 2 splash damage hits from him and only him. None of his friends nearby. It outright made me snap after watching the killcam to confirm.
>>341866038
> d.va potg
> doesn't exist
but that's wrong?
>>341866038
Just had a zenyatta potg.
>>341866207
I guess if the enemy is borderline retarded and jumps into your Q then yes you can get a potg on shitters
>>341866242
It's extremely rare to see it
>>341864704
>>341862231
>have a job
>grind XXX hours
>get that skin you really wanted in the first two hours of play
You're one of these three people.
>>341859263
>mfw this nerf
Literally didn't effect me at all, it's so great they nerfed the retard's way of playing him while leaving him untouched to anyone with a brain
>>341865620
If you hit him with 3 grenades he would've been dead, junkrat does 120 per grenade.
>>341866321
Consider suicide.
>>341866316
it really sounds like you're the retard, and you launch your mech while they are watching you.
The best way to use d.va ult is to throw your mech into the air, over walls or straight up into the sky.
>>341860986
>tfw got my second PotG as Zeny today
>have the sick Harmony and Discord highlight intro for him
>>341866174
The fuck are you talking about dude?
His grenades are so versatile and the splash is huge, combine that with really really good shift and E skills and hes amazing, he needs to be nerfed hard so the game can be fun.
>>341865948
Flashbang does 30 damage so you only need 3, but depending on range yeah she can totally survive. They nerfed him wrong, now he's a RNG counter to her instead of a hard counter, and out of all the cast she NEEDS one
>>341866409
the watch this message is global and there is a huge warning floating. If you hear a dva ulti you take cover. Not wait till you see it drop
>>341865881
He's not in every game like cree and widow was, at least not yet. His ultimate is easy to avoid especially since abilities effect it. His damage also awkward and not consistent. He can pepper areas and destroy rein shields but he can't consistently hit people unless you are really good with his floaty grenades. I think he's good but not stupidly overpowered. C4 trapping off areas that have high squishy traffic is fun to do with him though.
>>341859263
I haven't played Overwatch at all but good to see Blizzard is as shit at balancing as they ever have been.
Knee-jerk over-reactions one month late and constantly shifting the class of power instead of balancing the game to begin with.
>>341865531
idk about to the ground but i dont get why junkrat's mine doesnt damage him but his grenades do and phara's rockets damage her. junkrat should get fucked upclose by tracer and the like but all he needs to do is either detonate a mine in his fucking face to kill her or blast off somewhere else
>>341866038
>>>Symmetra
>being afk
Nah. The only ones around are the ones were everyone ignores her while she is using her gun to fry everyone
>>341866556
but these were good balance changes, shitposter
>>341866409
>hear the loud ass audio queue
>hide behind like a trashcan
>don't die
Wow that was hard
Not only that but you'd have to somehow catch 3 people with downs syndrome with that maneuver to get the potg
>>341866540
His ultimate is fine and fits really well for what its meant to do, im fine with his skills being good but his primary combined with the rest is just fucking absurd.
>>341866603
Just makes me rage so hard man, he can kill a Mei in close quarters before her blaster even has time to freeze him.
>>341861247
i think i found your guy anon.
>>341860041
But you dont fan tracer and zen, flash+m1 one shots them
>>341866485
I think the problem was the second fan after the roll. They should have made the damage of subsequent bullets go down the more connect. So a fan on a tracer or genji still fucks them while a reinhardt barely takes damage from the second fan. Because right now the low HP enemies have tiny hitboxes so unless youre on top of them you will miss some shots, and on large enemies the damage is too low.
>>341859263
>mfw people stop thinking of McCree as a scrub-tier ez win so I can finally play him
>mfw he's still fun
>D.Va potg
>Doesn't exist
No, I've seen it quite a few times actually. Typically when she does the kamikaze thing in the air with her mech.
>>341866741
The same could be said about almost every ult.
> Hanzo ult
just step out of the way
> torbjorn ult
just hide behind a wall
> soldier 76
just hide behind anything
> mcree
just hide behind anything
etc...
D.va takes a little more finesse because of how telegraphed her ult is, but that doesn't mean its hard to get kills with it or even potg.
>>341867019
All I'm saying is it's a great deal less likely then a fucking Reaper potg
I think I see a D.Va potg like every like 100 games. In general she's a bad character and her ult is piss easy to dodge compared to every other Q press.
>>341867019
the difference with d.vas is you know exactly where it's coming from since it has a huge warning sign
>>341859578
>>341862717
>>341863249
>playing genji vs pre nerf mccree
>usually beat them because they were shit and relied on their E and m2 too much
>playing genji vs post nerf mccree
>literally free kills except for the one mccree who knows how to left click decently, die to him every time
>>341867127
>>341867235
> remove the huge warning sign on her ult
is D.va buffed?
>>341867440
She's better but still shit
>tickle machine guns with huge as fuck dropoff
I'm hugely disappointed every time I see this bitch on my team. It's extremely good seeing them on the enemy team, super fast ult build up time and she literally doesn't do anything.
>>341867603
She's in a situation where any real buffs will put her over the line.
More damage and she becomes a better tracer in every way.
More tanky and she becomes the hardest to kill hero in the game while winning all 1v1's or even 2v2's because attrition.
She's fundamentally flawed.
Why you niggers acting like d'vas ultimate is meant to kill.
It is supposed to scare people off the objective.
It's bad because other ultimates do the same thing but even better. Other tank ultimates (besides winstons) are designed to get kills which will always be better than just making people move. Winston's is better than d'vas because instead of becoming a free kill he turns into a 1000 hp monster.
>>341867808
More tanky works pretty well I think, the games not balanced around 1v1 in the first place.
Alternatively they could buff her boost and just make her incredibly mobile.
>>341867808
I agree completely
Even though she serves no real purpose in the game at the moment she is really obnoxious just because you always have to kill her twice and she has her little defense matrix thing to absorb more damage
The only way they should deal with the character is let her be shit tier forever or a complete overhaul
>>341868051
Well the issue with that is she is mobile as fuck so she doesn't just waltz into a 1v1 she dives past your entire team to murder someone that stands zero chance and then gets out by flying away. She becomes a turbo-winston at that point.
That's her design issue, if she's ever good she invalidates someone else completely.
>>341866038
>Someone kills the entire team
>POTG
"HURR WHY DOES THE PLAY OF THE GAME ALWAYS GO TO WHOEVER KILLS EVERYONE!?"
>>341868224
Winston needs a buff I think, he's only annoying when he ults currently.
Being able to be an agile tank while winston is more of an area denial guy would be ideal I think.
>>341867808
with that critbox more tanky wont save her.
>>341868496
wut he's already strong af
he has a bit of a design problem in that you need 2 of them to be optimal though
>1 ape jumps on you and pops shield
yeah well whatever just shoot him
>2 apes jump on you and both pop their shields and start zapping you for 110dps altogether
oh shit what the fuck cant do anything
>>341868496
>buff WINston
Uh no he's good, he's not Reinhardt good but he's fine.
>>341868667
That makes more sense, i've never ever been against more than one winston at a time so he always just sits there tickling people and being useless till his ult comes up.
>>341868716
Reinhardt is in every single game, I hardly ever see winstons or zaryas
>>341868667
Hero stacking needs to fucking go when comp shows up otherwise this game will be full on shit. Cancerous tryhards already pop up in casual games, its only going to get worse when they see the pros with their double winston, double pharah-mercy every game and try to emulate them.
>>341868490
I'm say all potg are the same you dense retard
>>341868931
>I don't want the game to have any skill I just want a casual hugbox shooter where the game gives me a gold medal and then I jerk myself off to how many cool medals I got
Kill yourself m8
Every game will always have people that want to win. Your dumb hugbox ideal game will never exist
>>341868926
>>That makes more sense, i've never ever been against more than one winston at a time so he always just sits there tickling people and being useless till his ult comes up.
the most fun i've had in this game was playing double winston with a friend just before the widowmaker nerf patch. we just chased enemy widowmakers around the whole match, teabagged their corpses and memed at them in all chat
it's fun to stomp tryhards with a braindead stupid hero sometimes
>>341868926
That's kind of why I said he's not "Reinhardt GOOD". Reinhardt is the best tank in the game.
>>341869153
Not even remotely close to what I said mr projection. Hero stacking is fundamentally broken and makes every game play out the exact same. Why have 21 heroes when every match will only use the same 6 or so?
>>341869176
Reinhardt is the only real tank in the game, the rest are skirmishers.
>>341868989
>He doesn't get potgs by playing his character
Step it up.
>>341869173
I still think he should be buffed, maybe in his shield or something, i want to see viable alternatives to reinhardt
>>341869176
That kind of heavily implies that he does need a buff then because right now you're an idiot if you pick any tank but reinhardt when you want to actually tank
>>341869390
he will never be a balanced alternative to reinhardt. they have entirely different roles.
reinhardt is kind of a stupid hero design since he is too unique. his 2000 hp shield has no equivalent alternative.
imo, reinhardt's shield should come up instantly, but it should be time based instead of damage based, so that you'd mostly use it to protect your teammates momentarily before charging into melees and stuff. he would also need massive other changes though, like tons more armor and damage.
sadly he's a "tank" hero in a game made by blizzard so he will literally always be designed to be a big wall of HP that does nothing but stand still
>get stunned as Lucio
>survive the fan
>push him away and skate off
lol
>>341869701
I feel like winston should be the kind of hero that drops his bubble and says no, this is my point now, because as I said before I never see more than one per game so they just run around being completely useless till ult pops.
>>341869738
>dva cute spray never
Why is she the only hero other than tracer who has a big warning sign? Why can you justy hide behind a trash can and be fine from it? Why even use it?
Should i get overwatch for pc or xbox one? I am very undecided here.
>Widow maker ult still uncounterable
Other than that the nerfs are good.
>>341870039
That's what his Ult is for. Until then he needs to be behind enemy lines, harassing the healers and snipers. Because he really can't Rumble with the tanks or heavy hitters.
>>341870953
>console FPS
Nigga buy it on PC, it's a blizzard game as well
>>341870953
Pc. How is that a question?
>>341870767
I have it, sucks to be you.
>>341869701
>it should be time based instead of damage based, so that you'd mostly use it to protect your teammates momentarily before charging into melees and stuff.
You literally, as in >literally< just described D.VA's defense matrix, the mechanic you mentioned is already in the game
>>341871345
He should be one or the other and be really great at it rather than mediocre at both then
>>341871269
That gif is so fucking gluttonous it irks me.
>>341859467
I've been getting far better at McCree's primary fire ever since the nerf. He's still great.
>>341871571
sorry anon it just conveys my emotions.
What is the purpose to playing McCree now? Just play like Mei and shoot people from a distance while trying to stay safe?
>>341865394
You and the people you play with are shitters. i've seen him rekt asses
>>341871459
i was thinking more of a stamina bar instead of a cooldown, so that you can put it up and down whenever you want
but yeah maybe
but point is, reinhardt is always going to be a mandatory pick until he's nerfed into uselessness
>>341871563
Buffing his damage or his bubble would be excessive.
>>341872058
>git gud
>land your left click shots
>stun slippery buggers so and your team can JUST them
>occasionally use Deadeye
I knew you fuckers would start bitching about my man Reaper when McCree got the nerfs you asked for.
Fuck that noise. Next you're coming for Zarya and Tracer, I'm putting my foot down on this shit right now.
>>341866412
>Tfw he has the best, but i never get to see them, even when the enemy is him and is good.
This is why gold is valuable i guess
>>341866412
RoboMonk has the best Highlight Intros. Definitely worth putting it on random once you unlock multiple ones.
>>341859358
>"D.Va needs a buff!"
>pick D.Va every game
I tried playing as McCree and I guess Im just afwul as him, because everytime I suck hard. I have a few questions
When I use his alt fire, the crosshair goes slightly upwards and moves back downwards. How am I supposed to aim with this? Should I just put my crossfire on the enemy and right click, or place the crosshair slightly above the enemy?
When exactly does my High Noon play out? I used it a few times, but it rarely killed people, while in training mode it seemed to kill in 1 hit. I either get killed (even though the entire high noon sound has played) or it gets blocked in some way I think?
Finally, what's the use of the roll? I guess I can dodge stuff with it, but the slowdown is soooooo long.
>>341873078
>mfw can't pick map and game mode
My one REEE-complaint!
>>341873078
Joke's on you. I've been bitching about Reaper since launch.
>>341864182
>That quickscope nerf
>trusting blizzard to not casualize and ruin their game
overwatch will be killed by blizzard, it's just a matter of time
>>341869390
New actual tanks when?
So what are the viable characters now? Who's going to replace McCree?
>>341873297
Aim center mass when you fan the hammer. In Deadeye when the circle around the enemy turns red, they will die when you shoot. You can cancel the move by pressing right click and you will get 50% cool down back. Use this to scare people and make them scatter. Rolling automatically reloads your gun. So fan the hammer against a tank, roll, and then fan again.
>>341862198
>Hes perfectly balanced
You main reaper dont you?
He can take out a tank like it was nothing.
An assault that can take out a tank by himself is far from balanced, dipshit.
>>341873582
Nerfing hitscan heros in a game with 20 tick is making the game more casual? Don't talk about something you don't understand
>>341860925
The 5th bullet won't hit before the stun wears off and he can wraith away
>>341874094
Maybe because tank killing IS his role, dumbass.
>>341868926
>That makes more sense, i've never ever been against more than one winston at a time so he always just sits there tickling people and being useless till his ult comes up.
good winstons are nice against a widowmaker or the like. Just jump on them and laser them. Only problem is that the rest of the team refuses to tank while you go for it. Its like dva, if you use her as sniper/healer killer it works, but your team doesnt understand that pushing must be done without her
>>341874094
>He can take out a tank like it was nothing.
That's his point
>>341866412
I'm the guy you replied to, and I bought this exact one with currency in case of a sick PoTG (that is still not happening)And guess what ?? I GOT IT FUCKING TWICE IN LOOT BOXES AFTERWARDS, THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR
So are we going back to Tracer meta?
>>341873879
Thanks man
>>341874443
>Tank killing is his role
Right, along with anything else that he sees.
He's broken and you all know it.
Reap still good as fuck though.
>>341874443
No he is to counter fast heroes like tracer and genji and other back line harassers. Which is why his damage was lowered.
>>341874773
You speak as if other heroes can't defend themselves against him. Fight outside of his range and you win against him.
>>341874946
That sounds like you're talking about McCree. I'm talking about Reaper.
mccree is as OP as ever if you have good aim
his weapon is nutty
>>341864017
I got a team kill with a dva ult at the end of attacking on kings row. Best feeling I've had in weeks
Who saving up currency here?
Nearly 4000. I need a Mercy skin but i'm so conflicted about what one to buy.
I have 760 G.
what should I spent it on? i got most of it in a 500 G lootbox
>one of my friend's friends mained McCree
>now he never plays him since he's been "cucked" and started playing genji
>can't play with my friend because this guy is not a team player in the least
>two genjis? let me go ahead and be the third genji
>oh we lost? "THAT TEAM WAS CANCER"
LIKE HOLY FUCK YOU ARE THE CANCER AND I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY WITH YOUR RETARDED ASS EVER AGAIN.
learn to play as team and pick what we need, not what you want. Sure, I love genji, he's even my most played character but I'd NEVER be the third genji when we didn't have a tank
>>341875665
The new skins are probably going to be rewards for ranks in competitive mode.
>>341866794
Not only does his trap and mine do massive damage, he can just toss them at people on the offensive and blow them up, they should at least have a fucking timer to prime because having a trap thrown at you in close quarters like it's another pipebomb is bullshit
>>341862089
Sounds like Moba trash
>>341875665
I'm savin up my currency for the new skins
>its a random locks in hanzo/widow/tracer episode
seen this rerun so many times
>>341875931
His trap does 0 damage btw
>>341876550
What? No it doesn't. It does 80 damage over time.
>>341876550
That is very wrong, his trap does a whopping 80 damage
>>341864886
Playing as a Zenyatta against him is a pain. He simply wraiths form to you and wrecks your shit in one hit. Zen needs a mobility tool
Do we all agree that Roadhog needs to be nerfed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgRQ9_1pi9A
>>341864017
they really need to get rid of that sign
fucking WHY
sound queues not enough? why isn't there a caution sign for junks tire, or everyones one hit kill ult
