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http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/06/microsoft-will-use-steam-to-sell-windows-games-not-just-its-own-store/
There's literally no point in buying an XBone now. What's your excuse?
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>>341857092
Freelancer coming to steam?
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So I can play injustice 2 because WB fucking suck
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>>341857092
>microsoft will use steam too instead of just it's store
>quantum break: not available on steam
also
>gears of war ultimate edition not available on steam
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nice clickbait site
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>>341857092
>What's your excuse?
Those games aren't good enough for me to "upgrade" to Meme10.
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It's clear that the Scorpio is Microsoft's last console right?
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>>341857092
Some people don't like the idea of building a pricey and confusing for them computer. A console is simpler and you know it works good enough for them. I'm okay playing with xbox bros. Heck i use an xbox one controller on my pc more then M and K.
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>>341858149
>buy prebuilt
???
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>>341857424
see
>will

Dead Rising 4 PC for example has a timed exclusivity period of 3 months on the W10 store. It'll come to Steam later.
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>>341857696
Read the headline again.
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the only thing my xbone does better is the chat and party stuff. getting chat only over headset with game sound only over speakers is a pain in the ass on steam.
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>mfw i can wakeup one day and see forza horizon 3 on my steam library
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but building a pc coasts $2000 and is scary
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>>341857092
Does this mean QB and GoW will come to Steam?
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>>341859798
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And they will still require w10, big deal.
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>>341859798
I'd kinda prefer having proper Forza, honestly. I mean, Project Cars is nice, but I want to drive around Spa in lame commuter vehicles I've souped up well beyond any sort of feasible capabilites.
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For the last fucking time, 99% of people do not buy consoles for the exclusives. Go look up how well Bloodborne sold, and then compare it to total PS4 sales. Do that with any exclusive and any console this generation. Spoiled manchildren with enough money for an $800 PC and a PS4 and/or a WiiU do not and never have or never will represent the market. Get that through your thick fucking skulls.
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Doesn't go for everything.
Stuff that sold like shit on the Windows Store will probably end up getting released on Steam.

Quantum Break for example.
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>>341860326
the majority doesn't matter here you autist
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>>341859890
I build mine in 2010 for 560€ and still runs a few modern games
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>>341860305
Forza 3 Apex Soon. Windows 10 only, but so are all their PC ports unfortunately. Has Microsoft said if they're getting simultaneous releases with their Xbox One counterparts yet?
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>>341857313
>MKX cucked on PC with no kombat pack 2 AND no ggpo netplay
>Injustice 2 not going to be on PC AND going the pay to win route
>and people still won't stop supporting WB games

fuck WB games, they don't deserve a single penny, and Ed Boon is a liar and a money slave

why, Boon, why? ;_;/spoiler]

also, WB isn't even being evil, they're being fucking retarded, MKX sold over 550k copies on Steam alone
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>>341860326
This. Most people just need a Fifa/CoD/Madden box.
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>>341857092
Console gaming is slowing down after the 7th Gen

Microsoft is simply finding an alternative
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>>341860326
this, most people are too dumb AND lazy to assemble a cheap PC and get way more games than a PS4/Xbone would

it's pretty intriguing to hear adults whine about how hard it is to build a PC when I could do this when I was 13
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>>341858679
Alright, when will quantum break and gears of war be heading towards steam?
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>>341857313
this
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>>341860580
most people already have a pc for games.

the minority play consoles.
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>>341860495
Apex doesn't have shit for car selection. Also, I get weird stuttering for seemingly no reason, as if the game is shitting itself deciding if it wants to scale resolution, even though I've told it fucking not to. UWP games are fucking dogshit, and it upsets me that KI '13 won't see release on a PC games platform I actually give a shit about.
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>>341858454
There is also the issue of compatibility and what settings to do and outdated hardware with time.At least with a console you know that game have been optimize for that hardware.
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>>341858679
I wonder when it comes out on steam will it still have cross play with xbox? I hope so. cross play is cool
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>still W10 exclusive
Who cares?

Homestly, I'd rather buy these games in my Xbone before upgrading my PC to W10.
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>>341857092
I'm still not installing your malware 10.
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>>341860552
I don't know anything about football, but i thought Brazil was actually good.
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>>341860326
>Spoiled manchildren with enough money for an $800 PC and a PS4 and/or a WiiU do not and never have or never will represent the market

The average american household is supposed to have a good 34k disposable income a year.
Wait no
>In the United States, the average household net adjusted disposable income per capita is USD 41 071 a year

And you're telling me you can use any of that buy more than one console and a PC. Thats like 1000$ BIG FUCKING DEAL WOW.

Fags have no problem spending 1000$ on iMacs and iPhone and shit.

But owning a console and PC OH NO.
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>>341858949
It's really not. You just have to not be retarded with the headset. If you own a 360 controller you can use the mic as a chat only headset. I'm sure the same is true with the Xbone controller.
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And people kept saying "SONY WON" the E3

Microsoft raped Sony with their Scorpio announcement and now this
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>>341861070
the USA isn't the whole world
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>>341857696
>>341861025
They sure as shit aren't good enough for people to buy a +$300 Xbone for
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>>341861205
It's the only region where the xbone is relavent. Nobody outside of NA gives a fuck about the Xbone, especially not Europe or Asia.
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>>341861070
But those people have other hobbies besides gaming. They don't spend enough time gaming to justify owning a console and a PC.
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>>341861328
>forgetting about the UK
Brits buy Xboxes and drive Fords and copy us in every way like the good goys they are.
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>>341857092
>yfw you didn't fall for the xbone meme
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Can someone explain it to me, are they gonna release so kind of emulation software to play all xbone games, or they will actually port the games?
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>>341861270
I bought mine a while ago.
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>>341861481
Crappy UWP ports
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>>341861179
other players voices always come in over the speakers instead of the headset, tried multiple setups with the same result
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>Forza 6 Apex and Killer Instinct have done well on the store, but Quantum Break did not

hmm really makes you think...
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>>341861481
Ports, but Xbone and W10 is practically the same kernel, so they just need to do optimization. The games are most likely gonna run like shit during the initial release since the devs are lazy fucks though.
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>>341861481
They're ports. So far, they're 2 for 4 in regards to port quality.
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>>341861675
QB is the only one of those games with Denoovo?
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>>341861664
Sorry you're just a fuckup then. The setup I just described using 360 controllers works 100% of the time seperating chat audio and game audio and I never had any problems with my speakers. Several USB headsets have the same feature.
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>>341861037
Yes you are, eventually as you'll have no choice.
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>>341857092
I actually mostly game on PC, but I'm planning to pick up a ps4 because of the E3 (mostly because of i'm a faggot for Kojima). Anyone got some recommendations? Not Bloodborne, I'm not a fan of Dark Soul like games.
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>>341861552
my condolences
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>>341861070
They're willing to spend that much for Apple devices because of the boost to social status that comes along with them. Everyone knows how expensive Apple products are, so if you have one, you're thought of as someone of a higher social caste than normal. No one knows how expensive a high end gaming PC can be. They need the Apple logo on the devices to signify wealth and privilege.

Once again, no one gives a shit about PC beyond using it as a workstation, which means no societal bonus for owning one, which also means that, combined with the amount of research needed to buy and build one, people still won't be arsed to own one, and will just buy a console instead.
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>>341858728
They still require Win10, even if you can buy them on Steam.
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>>341861468
Haha no. UK is sony territory just like the rest of Europe.

>>341861890
>buying a PS4 now for a game that won't come out for another 2 years minimum
literally retarded
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>>341861798

QB is the only one that isn't free
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>>341861831
xbone controller works like this on windows 10 but not on 7/8.1
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You will eventually be forced to upgrade to Windows 10. Prove me wrong
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>>341857092
>Steam gets Win10 games
>PC getting more and more Xbone "exclusives"
Are they just trying to kill off their own console?
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>>341860508
I am pretty sure its WB that makes Ed do the shit he has to do (like dlc and pre order bonuses). He doesnt have a say in anything anymore since the buyout
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>>341860862
>There is also the issue of compatibility and what settings to do and outdated hardware with time.
All modern games have an auto detect for settings, this isn't an issue for plebs like yourself. Consoles are outdated from day 1, I'm struggling to understand what you mean by
>outdated hardware with time
You could still be running a 5770 from 2009 and play games to a higher standard than the last console generation.
>At least with a console you know that game have been optimize for that hardware.
If you consider sub-30 fps at 640p optimised. You need to stop choking down all the details you've been getting from your favorite console forums.
.
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>>341861468

>and drive Fords

You know European Fords are different to American fords right?
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>>341862040
They lost the race against Sony, now it's scrambling for what they can get.
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Reminder that if you're running any iteration of Windows right now you cannot use "muh privacy" as an excuse not to upgrade to Windows 10.
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>>341861987
360 controller works fine on 7 for splitting voice and game chat.
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>>341861890
No bullshit, if you have the console anyway, check out the meme games everyone shits on. Knack is actually pretty cool, and the amount of detail in the order makes it worth a playthrough.
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You can buy them on steam but it will still require win10 which is useless
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>>341859798
> forza horizon 3

I'd rather see Gran Turismo, but I'll settle.
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>>341862165
>Unless you have a clean SP1 install with updates turned off
ftfy
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>>341861981
Forza is free? oh shit, I'll definetly try it out
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>>341862040

Yes? Microsoft basically wants to stop competing with Nintendo and move into a fusion console/PC market, that's the whole idea behind Scorpio
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>>341862165
Reminder that tu quoque is a fallacy and Windows 10 is far more invasive than any windows version prior.

>Reminder that if you go to the mall with security cams you can't use "muh privacy" as an excuse to not have government madnated cameras installed in your house
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>>341862261
You're safe on Windows only if it's completely disconnected from the internet

Don't fool yourself
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>>341862042
I know, but he's still in the company, working for them, either he has a contract binding him, or he's a slut

sssssssluuuuuuuuuuuut

he should get out and make his own games
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>>341862217
Less useless than the Xbone
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>>341862267

It's shit m8, I don't even know why it exists. No multiplayer, no wheel support, only certain events you can do its silly
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>>341862318
You have 0% understanding of how invasive any iteration of Windows is as long as you don't have access to the source code
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>>341857092
Does PC version of Gears of War and Quantum Break actually benefit in any way from being on PC? I mean, higher resolution is a given, but is it locked to 30FPS and shit like that?
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>>341862226
Forza is a better arcade sim than GT. Every car has interior design, they don't all feel the same and you don't have 300 versions of the Skyline.
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>>341862424
>You can't tell where there's a leak in your house without exact blueprints

O i am laffin
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>>341862424
>You have 0% understanding of how invasive any iteration of Windows is
Except for the fact that Windows 10 advertises how invasive it is in its own agreements. They literally admit to logging keystrokes in their terms of use.

You can't care about privacy if you use any version of windows is not and will never be a valid argument.
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>>341857092
>Windows 10
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>>341861664
>>341861831
You just have to open "sound" in the control panel and set the headset as the default communication device after you plug it in

For like half my games though, it still comes out the speakers, not the headset, but this is with a 360 controller
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>>341862217
Have you actually tried using the Windows Store? It's fucking garbage, basically GFWL all over again.
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>>341862614
>Xbone
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>>341860305
Why not just become an asian and move to Detroit?
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>>341862582
And if Microsoft wants to log your keystrokes nothing is stopping them from doing it on Windows 7
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>>341862023
who this?
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>>341862512
Gears of war isn't locked to 30FPS and it runs nicely on a 660ti with phenom X4 945 only downside for me was dual booting into 10 only for my partitioned drive to slowly die due to CRC errors
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>>341862512
>there's gears of war 4 in the works
>looks like exact same shit all over again

I wonder if there's anyone who actually wants to go back to dead brown & bloom days or if microsoft is just counting on gow surviving the generational jump.
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>>341862617
What games are you playing? I literally never had a single game force chat audio through my speakers with my 360 headset plugged into my controller.
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>>341861043
They are but they got their shit pushed in by Germany when they hosted the world cup.
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>>341862625
I have used it for Killer Instinct and I never had to open it after installing, so you're wrong
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>>341862523
>arcade sim
into the trash
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>>341862675
>b-b-but microsoft can spy on you just as hard on windows 7 and xp!

you're grasping hard at straws
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>>341862670
>implying i own one
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>>341862404
>no multiplayer
in a racing game?
fucking wut, Microsoft
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>>341857092
For real? Because I'll buy Forza Horizon if this is true.
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>>341862617
the only game i got it working on was the first borderlands. everything else, voices come from the speakers
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>>341862757
It doesnt force it, but you just have to set it as the default communication device after you plug in the headset, but before you start a game

at least the first time, it should be good after that though i think
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>>341860580
>it's pretty intriguing to hear adults whine about how hard it is to build a PC when I could do this when I was 13

No it isn't, I could assemble a PC in my teens and my dad could assemble a car motor in his teens and we couldn't currently do vice versa without help if our lives depended on it. It's just growing with the technology of the time it's nothing amazing.
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>>341862675
Aside from civil suits and bad press
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>>341862831
You're only fooling yourself if you think you're safe on Windows
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>>341862903
i think it worked with rainbow 6 seige, and a few others
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Wait, so Dead Rising with Frank will be on Steam day 1? No Windows 10 needed?
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>>341857092
>tfw console exclusivity will one day be a distant memory
feels great
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>>341862831
They patched in all the telemetry stuff that people are freaked out about into windows 7
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>>341862961
And where would those come from when you don't know when you're being spied on
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>>341862962
You're only fooling yourself if you think Windows 10 is no worse than previous windows when it comes to privacy. Like your arguments are literally just
>y-you don't know unless you have the source code!
>b-b-but microsoft can spy on you just as hard on Windows 7 and 8!
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>>341863000
nah steam will just have windows 10 exclusive games im pretty sure
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>>341862920
If your Mother's boyfriend can put together an engine and can't look at a mobo and think "hurr this slot is same size as this card maybe it fit here" he's an actual mongoloid.
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cortana is just as retarded on xbox one as she is on windows. i asked her to power off, she showed me a web page with the powerpuff girls
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>>341863000
Well, one of them already IS, so...yeah?
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>>341863085
>YOU'RE BEING SPIED ON YOU JUST DON'T KNOW IT

The burden of proof is on you. You can't claim windows 7 is just
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>>341857092
I seriously wonder if this will lead to some major sale increases, though.
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>>341862920
it's literally LEGO, being unable to assemble a PC is embarassing to say the least
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>>341863070
you can remove those updates and block them from reinstalling. network traffic examination confirms this works
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>>341863085
>he doesn't know about bandwidth monitoring
baka
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>>341863070
No they didn't pajeet.
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>>341860582
well logic would dictate that it will become available once they start releasing the games that are on both W10 and Steam. So probably the fall or Winter when DR4 releases.
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>>341863258
yeah they did, Gurpreet. but its fixable
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>>341860305
>souped
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All I want is Sunset Overdrive on Steam. I like character creation in games especially with this kind of aesthetics.
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>>341857092
>Buy an Xbone
or
>Install Windows 10
It's like picking which testicle should be kicked. How about neither.
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>>341862023
too much ass
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>>341864193
W10 is literally W7 with better performance though
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>>341864629
Wow thanks installing right now!!
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>>341864629
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>>341860508
How is going pay to win if there's a tournament standard mode planned that won't have customs? Have you played a game with customs before?
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>>341857092
>There's literally no point in buying an XBone now. What's your excuse?
think of it like that
when you buy an xbone after a while, you will have digital games ready to be played on it

I like the deal in general, playing racing games on Consoles is always more comfy for me
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>>341858149
>repurchase the same console every two years because they fix bugs/hardware issues associated with the older models, offer more space, flashier/glossier designs 300-400*(years)
>games mainly going for $40-60 a pop
>exclusives doomed to rot years after release if companies or dev studios refuse to offer backwards compatibility or an alt to play the game
>having to pay subscriptions just to have internet access on the console when you're already paying for cable services

Don't get me wrong, there is an appeal to consoles, but I can't fathom why somebody would want to spend arguably more than what a PC is worth and then justify its cheaper. Especially when:

>you can regularly clean out and maintain your hardware to reduce problems by being able to readily access said hardware without ruining your warranty
>optimize games to your liking
>the conventional of just general PC usage along side playing your games
>ability to play your games long after they get removed from console platforms or aren't carried over into the nexgen
>multiple online distributors complete with individual sales, so games tend to be cheaper than their console sales price
>I'm gonna feel gay for saying this but mods to enhance games to your preference or expanded upon the base game
>ability to emulate most consoles and their games
>upgrade at your own discretion, no need to constantly renew your consoles, just your hardware
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>>341864825
>there's a tournament standard mode planned that won't have customs
I didn't know that, did they clarify that already? source please

>>341864769
>lighter games from the past run worse, while heavy games from today onwards using DX11/12 perform better

it's still better to be on W10, unless you either have no interest in playing games from 2014, 2015, 2016 or any future releases in your lifetime, or if you care about benchmarking in 3DMark11 and other softwares

or if you have a weak PC and wants to run past games, I guess
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>>341865023
>there is an appeal to consoles,
what appeal? the one about not overheating? or not having to install updates? or the one about not having to pay to play online? or the one about having good graphics while not worrying about hardware for 5+ years? or the one about no glitches or anything ever happening because the games are playtested a fuckton? or not having to install games on your HDD?

because these features are all gone, you know
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>>341862134
Not anymore Tim. I know it's off topic but the "one ford" plan has been established for years now.
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I prefer the "graphics don't matter" narrative you sonyggers are pushing.

This "PC" pedaling is only hurting sony, especially since sony themselves came out and said the Neo Was meant to keep their fan base away from PC.

"Xbox games on PC"
will only make PC more attractive. Which is also microsofts market btw.
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>>341861070
>disposable income
Does that mean after taxes, rent, food, bills and what not?
Because I find that somewhat hard to believe.
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Halo Spartan Assault and Spartan Strike are already on Steam, this shouldn't come as a surprise.
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>>341865535
Trans-portability, conventional for co-op play, casualness of plug'n'play forwardness with the console optimized toward game emulation, more broad to genres like racing, fighting, and sports games(if you like any of those), and consoles were the stepping stone and foundation in gaming to start.
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>>341866579
>Trans-portability,
you can make small PCs nowadays, if you're going to restrict the hardware to something as weak as a console

>conventional for co-op play, casualness of plug'n'play forwardness with the console optimized toward game emulation,
have you tried plugging 360 controllers on a PC? plus, access to pratically every game before gen 6 through emulation, and working local multiplayer

> more broad to genres like racing, fighting, and sports games(if you like any of those),
I'm pretty sure that out of these genres, the only relevant games PC hasn't gotten was Gran Turismo/Driveclub series, Injustice 2 (even Tekken 7 is coming to PC now), and maybe some sports games? I'm not really sure if those Winning Elevens and Fifas and NFLs get release on PC too or if they're console exclusive

> and consoles were the stepping stone and foundation in gaming to start.
that can bring an appeal I guess, specially to collectors
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>>341857092
There is no point if you own a gaming PC. Console gamers and PC gamers are distinct though with few overlapping idorts so it doesn't matter. Cross-play means larger audience. Microsoft owns both so they win either way.
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>>341857092
I still like getting physical copies, and consoles have more physical releases than PC.
I'll keep getting consoles like the collector fag I am until they finally one day go digital only
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>>341867257
the cross-buy makes the idorts happier, and they probably wouldn't buy the game twice anyways, I think it's a good idea
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>Play on console at home
>Play on laptop when on vacation or just out and about
Honestly, I hope third parties adopt this system so I can do this with all my vidya.
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>>341867512
>I'll keep getting consoles like the collector fag I am until they finally one day go digital only
don't worry, because of people like you they'll keep making physical copies of games

I myself don't care about the plastic and manuals (which they don't even make anymore), I only care about the games, having them installed in my HDD is way more practical
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>>341867665
I haven't gotten used to the digital transition that happened during the 7th gen. Spending money on a digital product doesn't feel the same, and I like owning the physical products just in case the digital version of a game is pulled for whatever reason
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>>341857092
>Killer instinct comming to steam
That's great-
>Still needs w10
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>>341867215
What exactly are you arguing here? I made it clear that pc gaming>console gaming.

>have you tried plugging 360 controllers on a PC? plus, access to pratically every game before gen 6 through emulation, and working local multiplayer

I sure hope that was a controller I used all those time before, but also, emulation is irrelevant when including modern games for co-op. Not to mention putting a disc and hitting play is a lot easier than having to potentially alter the game's files to run at all on the PC or running around it between license keys if you find yourself having some issues there.

>I'm pretty sure that out of these genres, the only relevant games PC hasn't gotten was Gran Turismo/Driveclub series, Injustice 2 (even Tekken 7 is coming to PC now), and maybe some sports games? I'm not really sure if those Winning Elevens and Fifas and NFLs get release on PC too or if they're console exclusive

I'd counter your relativity but thats specific to the eye of the beholder. I do know its mostly every other major sport beyond FIFA NBA and that haven't made it to PC.
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>>341868110
>just in case the digital version of a game is pulled for whatever reason
Unless they have direct access to your HDD it's not like they can delete the game from your PC/Console and there are games that were pulled from Live/PSN/Steam but they are still available for download to those who purchased them.
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>>341861043
The coach for that world cup drafted none of the super star players and purposely trained them wrong for the hues
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>>341868142
>meanwhile at Microsoft

Talk about monkey paw's wish
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>>341868142
>needs w10

goodbye sea of thieves !
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>>341858728

They can still prevent the game from working on older versions of Windows, you dummy.

Quantum Break, for example, requires DirectX 12, if I'm not mistaken.
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>>341857092
Will it still require Windows 10 if its on Steam?
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>>341868937
They're DX12 games, so yes.
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>>341862042
Because that went well for Inafune and soon enough Kojima right
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god i hate windows 10
>playing game
>haven't saved
>computer inexplicably shuts down
>[don't panic]
>it starts up again
fuck you micropenis and your shitty OS, the least thing you could have done is warn me before you fucking shut down my computer
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>>341860552
Remember the Goalocaust.
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>>341868937
yes
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>>341861890
NieRA, Horizon, bunch of Vita-multiplat weeb shit. It's actually really worth it if you're into the latter but still don't have a Vita.
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>>341857092
Will they still require Windows 10 though? Even if downloaded through steam or whatever.
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>>341868152
>I sure hope that was a controller I used all those time before,
then you should know that you just plug in and pratically every game will instantly work with it

> but also, emulation is irrelevant when including modern games for co-op.
oh, do mention some modern games that only have local co-op on consoles and not on PC, I didn't know they existed sans RE5 (and that has a mod to re-enable it)

> Not to mention putting a disc and hitting play is a lot easier than having to potentially alter the game's files to run at all on the PC or running around it between license keys if you find yourself having some issues there.
a lot easier than clicking
>Install
>Play
on Steam? I disagree

>What exactly are you arguing here? I made it clear that pc gaming>console gaming.
I'm arguing that even the points that consolefags try to bring up about consoles are actually fictional, considering PC is just as easy

this is like an applefag saying he won't switch to android because he doesn't want to have to re-learn everything, when everything operates pratically the same
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>>341857092
This all doesn't matter to me as long as it's still Windows 10 exclusive, which is pure fucking cancer.
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>>341869062
>something's broken
>I know, I'll just blame it on W10!
>that will surely fix the issue
Start fixing your shit now before it fucking dies completely.
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Let me get this straight, so Steam is DRM, yet there are games with other types of DRM like Denuvo, Uplay and now MS's games launcher? Isn't this the definition of cuck? Also, why are all PC physical games require you to activate it online and download the rest of the game? Isn't physical games better for storage and it being able to install unlimited or if my internet is down? Most games these days are risen to 60GB of storage space just for one game. Explain yourselves PC gamers.
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>>341869392
literally retarded, windows 10 updates your computer and restarts it all the fucking time and it never warns you
nothing wrong with my computer
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>>341869392
You do know that W10 updates in the background and then shuts down your PC without you ever knowing right?
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>>341857092
>even fucking MS is dropping W10
Oh god my sides
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>Force a fucking Operating System down every PC in the market
>Still can't make a profit out of its own store and products

God damn Microsoft you truly SUCK at customer service.
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>>341869479
It constantly warns me though. Once offering to schedule after downloading and then every time you get close to that time. Then you can postpone it again.
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>>341869589
>shuts down your PC without you ever knowing right?
That's untrue, it notify you if your pc need a restart after any update, but, whatever.
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>mfw Halo comes to steam
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>>341857424
Both those games had horrendous issues, and very likely wouldn't even run on your computer.
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>>341861890
lots of japs, search it up (fate/extella, akiba's beat, grand kingdom, exist archive, miku...)
kingdom hearts 2.8
nioh
the last guardian
gt sport
uncharted 4
doa xtreme 3
What I can think of, those are all this year though, next year theres lot more.
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>>341869619
Except they're not.
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>>341869479
Not that anon, but I have Windows 10 and it's never just restarted randomly to update. It always asks, and even then I always have it update and shutdown.
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>>341857424
Funny thing is I STILL DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT QUANTUM BREAK IS ABOUT

Microdick pls why you fail so hard

No one ever posted a video, a screenshot, or an actual discussion about it here, and shit niche games are discussed here all the time.
>>
I had a really bizarre thing happen to me. I was in my bed, with my computer in sleep mode, and in the middle of the night, my computer kept turning on and off, except there was nothing being displayed on the monitor. When I woke up in the morning and checked my computer, I had gotten an update. Is this normal?
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>>341861675
>denuvo
All three use UWP which is SIGNIFICANTLY worse than denuvo.
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>>341859890
Grandma's shouldn't be playing games anyway
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>>341859890
Keep clicking those street signs, anon

Just keep clicking
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>>341869286
>then you should know that you just plug in and pratically every game will instantly work with it

And for the ones that don't you generally have to work around, unlike a console, which you can just plug and play, its not as forward. Now if you go beyond an xbox controller, other third party controllers and even PS controllers tend to hinder plug n play availability in PC gaming.


>oh, do mention some modern games that only have local co-op on consoles and not on PC, I didn't know they existed sans RE5 (and that has a mod to re-enable it)

I had said consoles are optimized toward game emulation specifically meaning that they're geared to run games specifically as opposed to PCs which don't focus on emulating/gaming entirely. You were throwing out general emulation. I also never said console exclusive co-ops, I meant that in the sense you can't emulate ps4/xbone one games

>Install
>Play

Except its not that easy with the aforementioned issues.

>I'm arguing that even the points that consolefags try to bring up about consoles are actually fictional, considering PC is just as easy

Its easy in lots of ways, but, if you have to run around and alter files/deal with technical support then its not as efficient as putting the disk in and just booting up the game zero problems. Hence forth, consoles are optimized to run games better even if the hardware is lacking. I don't see whats so hard to accept about that, nor really care to argue at this point.
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>>341869721
presumptions
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>>341857092
What's my excuse to what?
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>>341861675
Normies don't even know what Denuvo is.
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>>341858454
Who is this cutie
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Now that I have W10, I don't see what all the panic was about.
As long as you reboot every half an hour, it's fine.
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FUCKING WHEN
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It'll be pretty cool if we get the new Halo and Forza games on steam. Crap like Quantum Break doesn't even matter, though.
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So does this mean I don't need to build a rig specifically to infect it with w10 to play the new ms games?
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>>341863095
If you don't think Microsoft is trustworthy enough to use Windows 10, how could you possibly trust another closed-source operating system made by the exact same company?
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>>341860552
After two years i thought it would stop being funny. It didn't.
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This just means that Microsoft will continue to release games on Steam, like they already do. Doesn't mean that all W10 Store exclusives will be coming to Steam. It's not really news.
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>>341872619
look at Ubisoft

they still release on Steam, but you still need a UPlay account, just like Microsoft still needed a GFWL account
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>>341872252
Never ;-;
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>>341857092
Forza 6 and KI actually run

that's a pretty low bar for "doing well"
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>>341860281
whatever grandpa
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>>341872530
Because they only realised they could earn more profit of people recently. Hence the services they offer, only started a few years back. By giving away a free botnet + spyware + malware version of their operating system, well, forcefully pushing it on people, they got the opportunity to start exploiting it. Telemetry also was part of it, a lot of people disabled updates because of that.
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Halo MCC when?
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>>341860495
Apex is a rolling summer beta it's not even getting a proper release most likely
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>>341860582
most people also have old PCs with sub-1080P displays
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>>341860746
You need to set your refresh rate to 60 in Windows display settings
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>>341873161
Not exactly, Microsoft will likely not release Forza and Halo on Steam anymore.
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>>341861328
Nobody gives a fuck about Europe it's irrelevant when you only buy FIFA and Bloodbourne
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>>341865535
we added motion blur and chromatic abberation games are better than ever!
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>>341873602
That's not an excuse for the games not coming out on PC or steam…? Also, according to steam this is untrue, the GTX 970 and 1080p monitors are thriving.
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>>341857696
Fucking illiterate.
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>>341857092
I would rather buy an Xbone than put Windows 10 on any of my computers. And if they are talking about the Spencer quote he said 'eventually' which means they'll probably wait until it is no longer profitable for them to ignore Steam. And I'll bet they'll include GfW 2.0 as another terrible layer of anti-cheat, anti-piracy shit.
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>>341857269
Keep dreaming, T'Soni. ;_;

Not like there is a real need though, unless they add tons of new tweaks and shit
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>>341869630
you can't postpone windows 10 updates
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>>341875189
This. And when your game has been running for a couple of hours in full screen, win10 won't be telling you when it's shutting down.
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>>341869832
>>341869479
you can't postpone or anything like that, you can either have the computer restarting when the update has been downloaded or you can schedule a time, within a 6 day radius where it is appropriate for a restart
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>>341861890
nier 2
nioh
doax3
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>>341861890
>buying a ps4 for a game that literally doesn't exist yet
By all means go ahead. It's TLG and Versus XIII fags with the ps3 all over again
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>>341857092

I know you guys are always looking for shit to make le pc masterrace look better, but does anyone actually give a fuck that ms is going to pc? Ms has no third party support except for westaboo AAAs that have already been on pc for decades. With the exception of halo, there isn't a single xbone game that I am even remotely interested in. Meanwhile, countless ps4/vita games will never be ported. I don't like your port begging, but could you at least try not to sound disingenuous? Nobody gives a fuck about the fucking xbone and its terrible games, so why would it be any different now that its on pc?
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>but Quantum Break did not
Well when you sell a 5 episode tv drama for 59.99 that sometimes has shooting segments, that happens.
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>>341874480
This is the same shit I was thinking. It seems like PC is slowly becoming the place for online shooters only. And the rest of the single player stuff I might get on a PS4 or used Xbone when I do jump and buy consoles. What made PC gaming is slowly dying before our eyes.
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