>the great plateau isthe ruins of castle town
>you start offin a sheikah temple thats been buried
the guardians are froma war with robo ganon long ago
>>341826590
It would be cool if you could take control of the guardians later on in the game.
>>341826471
Anyone else think this is in the Wind Waker timeline?
>>341827034
I doubt it
If Hyrule was flooded then abandoned, why is there all this advanced shit there
>>341826590
I would like to see a dominion rod type thing with more freedom than TP
by this un released trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPjgEPQzl7c
at the end, the Guardian seems to have a flashback. so I guess the 2014 Trailer happens before Link goes to sleep
>>341827034
I think this takes place far after The Adventures of Link.
>>341827193It's because it's a post-apocalyptic version of Spirit Tracks' Hyrule
so is it gonna be actually open world or just a linear adventure like every game after OoT
>>341827193
Squidward Sword is the first in the timeline, and that game featured ancient technology.
>Hyrule gets flooded
>everything is fucking buried under water
>everything includes advanced shit
You belong in the /vg/ OP.
>>>/vg/145713334
It's plainly fucking obvious it's Flooded Hyrule after the ocean receeded. They hinted at it like 9 times in the livestream.
>>341827383
>no train tracks in sightstill plausible tho desu
>>341826471
>>the great plateau is the ruins of castle town
That's pretty much a given seeing as how you see the ruined Temple of Time right from the beginning.
>>341827404
you can go an virtually straight up walk to ganon after you wake up. good luck trying to bead the end boss with an stick tho
>>341827383
Spirit Tracks Hyrule takes place in New Hyrule, where there is no Mastersword.
>>341827383
>It's because it's a post-apocalyptic version of Spirit Tracks' Hyrule
Nope. It's very obviously the original Hyrule. The Temple of Time is the same one from OoT.
>>341827616
They never said that. They just stated that it is possible to get to the final boss without uncovering the story. There's still probably gonna be prerequisites to finishing the game.
>>341827616
>you can go an virtually straight up walk to ganon after you wake up.
Aonuma never said this.
He said you can beat the game without experiencing the whole story.
Why is there the Bridge of Eldin there
What about the Temple of Time
Koroks are pretty damning evidence for post WW
It seems like it could be the timeline converging
>>341827803
anon Aonuma himself directly said you could almost immediately challenge the final boss, you'd just have to be crazy to try it
>>341827870
So Breath of the Wild is basically Dark Souls 3?
>>341827870
>Eldin bridge
bridge of Hylia senpai.
>>341827870
I'm pretty sure that was the Great Bridge of Hylia.
Anyway, the existence of Koroks isn't proof that it's in the Wind Waker timeline. The Kokiri do not appear after OoT in any timeline so there's nothing that contradicts them becoming Koroks there.
>>341827870
>Why is the Bridge of Eldin there
The Bridge of Eldin could have always existed in many of the games, just not TP. The geography of Hyrule is mostly malleable with many geographical landmarks changing place in relation to other landmarks. Or maybe after OoT the Bridge of Eldin could have been made by Hyruleans or whatever in every timeline.
>What about the Temple of Time
Temple of Time existed in OoT where all three timelines split from. So I don't really understand your point considering every timeline from that point would include a Temple of Time
>Koroks are pretty damning evidence for post WW
Yeah they do, along with the sea salt rocks. However, Kokiri could've evolved into Koroks in all three of the timelines, not just WW.
Basically, y'all need to stop looking into this so seriously. It's fun n shit to theorize, but at the end of the day Nintendo is gonna do whatever they wanna do and justify it.
It's hinted that the Link in this game is one from a previous Zelda title, so who do you think it could be?
>>341828871
Nintendo is gonna say "fuck it" and make that Link the same as SS Link. Because. Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
>>341829361
Well, this link is right handed, despite the game not having motion controls this time around, and no other link before was right handed except for Skyward Sword link, so...
>>341829484
TP link was too anon.technically
So if this link has been asleep for a long time, which timeliness will this fit in? I'm guessing the majoras mask timeline. That futuristic ruins remind me so much of megaman legends. I fucking love games set millions of years in the future when humanity went back and lives among technology
>>341828264
koroks are literally the same koroks that appear in WW though
>>341828871
During an interview, Aonuma said the Shiekah symbol on his shirt was the same as from Ocarina of Time and that Link was asleep for 100. Then he said "I wonder what that means?"
Right now I'm assuming that they don't think the Hero of Time has suffered enough yet.
>>341829816
>Tingle spent hundreds of years in a pod being transfigured to look like the hero he truly is.
Calling it now.
>>341826471
that moblin ass
>>341830045
Tingle has been brainwashed into believing he's Link, and the real Link has fucked off to South Africa
>>341828871
>kingdom hearts II opening
really?
>>341829969
Maybe...just maybe this Link is from the timeline where Link was killed...but not really. He was badly injured and taken into recovery as Ganon laid waste to the land.
>>341827376
>>341827034
It uses a bunch of WW design stuff so this being post WW makes some degree of sense to me.
>>341827803
>>341827863
He literally said "Anybody who can go straight to the goal without doing anything else"
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/15/e3-2016-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-can-be-beaten-without-completing-the-story
>>341830105
so that's the tech they borrowed from monolith soft? ass shapes?
>>341827870
>Koroks are pretty damning evidence for post WW
Why? So sure we know this is the case in Wind Waker. But Kokiri have yet to appear outside of Ocarina of Time. I feel, as cart before the horse as it would be, that the Koroks are infinitely more likely to be the natural form of the Kokiri than their mutated descendants.
My reasoning as follows:
1) Kokiri call a magical demigod tree their dad, and it calls them his children. Everything else that acts this way is a member of the same genus: Great Fairies to Tatl, and Jabu to the Zora. And when the Zora start being birds, they start worshiping something that flies.
2) The Kokiri being an adaptation to fit into the human/hylian encroachment like in OOT's timeframe sure seems to me to fit better a transformative event than "We lived in a forest for a long time and became trees" since Kokiri were presumably living in a forest since their creation.
3) This lends to explaining the Kokiri's symbiosis with fairies in an ass backwards way. Why would Kokiri need guides to side around in the designated safe zone their whole lives? Why don't Koroks, who travel the world to seed plants in Wind Waker have them? The only point I can draw is the mechanical one that is worked into the tutorial in Ocarina of Time. That Kokiri need fairies to do things approximating human movement, like turning your head at an angle away from the front of their body.Something the Koroks can't do because they don't have necks.
4) If the race exists outside of the enclave the Deku Tree made, (which yeah is not a safe bet for BotW) I have a hard time believing they would be anything like the Kokiri. Playful, or lazy children dressed in green, who are assigned a guardian at all times.
>>341830197
Nah, it's more like this, if anything.skip to 1:37 if the link doesn't work
https://youtu.be/W1--xnL0WPM?t=97
>>341827376
>I think this takes place far after The Adventures of Link.
I'm glad somebody else has the same idea I do.
>>341829969
>HoT hasn't suffered enough
Leave the man be, jesus.
>>341827034
It's in the fallen hero timeline.
Link dies, the sages put him in a resurrection chamber and contain ganon in hyrule castle, the country falls into decline and leads to the NES games.
Aonuma has been going on about similarities to OoT and laughing about it so it's likely directly after that, and if Link has only been in the process of resurrection for 100 years there's no way WW could have happened in that period.
>>341826590
Arobotic Ganonwould be a neat twist, but this appears to just be pure speculation.
>>341830750
You're forgetting about the Koroks. How can there be Koroks pre-WW?
>>341827870
Not to mention Aonuma strongly hinted that the game is also connected to Twilight Princess and that he recommended that people play TPHD and previous Zelda games in the series in order to find the "aha! now I see" moments in Zelda U's plot.
Not to mention there's murals like this in castle town. Each tile representing a timeline, which should be fucking impossible for a game that takes place AFTER the split, in the child timeline.
I bet that's the reason they removed towns and NPCs from the demo as well; too many familiar faces and locales hinting at a timeline convergence. Only the koroks managed to say in.
>>341830750
Could it be set after Zelda 2? With Ganon now just a mindless spirit entity, and the Hero of Time resurrected after the fall of the NES Link?
>>341826471
>what did he mean by this?
>>341829628
Actually Link is left handed in tp, the Wii version is a mirror image
>>341831090
>Manlet Link in all of them.
>>341829969
Nah, this can't be the Hero of Time.
It doesn't look anything like the hero of time, isn't left-handed and doesn't even have a similar voice.
I feel like people just want him to be the Her of Time for nostalgia reasons only, even if he's already fucking nothing like him. Might as well call an apple an orange if you're that desperate then.
>>341831090
>timeline convergence
gotta say i'm warming up to this idea very quickly
Looks similar to the Oracle Links
What if... this Link is literally plucked from another Timeline and placed in the Shrine of Resurrection by the sages in order to deal with Ganon after he fucked up the world and this Timeline's Link was sacrificed in order to imprison Ganon in his Calamity form inside Hyrule?Maybe "real Link" is trapped with him.
Something like that.
>retards think this is in the Wind Waker timeline
Spirit Tracks is already 100 years after Wind Waker
>>341829969
why do they insist upon fucking that kid up?
>his only friend can't be with him because they aren't the same race
>he can't get with Malon because she's a simple girl and he is literally destined for battle
>he can't get with Nabooru because he's a fucking child, and she gets zapped when he comes back as an adult
>he probably wouldn't want to get with the cunt that is Ruto
>why the hell would he want to get with granny Impa?
>he can't get with Zelda because fuck you go back in time and fix this shit
>he can't even keep his fucking fairy, who left him because her mission was done
>he wanders and wanders into bizarro Hyrule and meets tons of familiar faces, only to walk away from it allpresumably because that shit is weighing on his head
>he dies without ever passing on his knowledge
Seriously those timelinefags are ridiculous. Trying to fit a timeline in a game which never gave a fuck about it. How the fuck do you explain hyrule being different in every game? You cant explain that shit so dont try to fit in a timeline, retards.
>>341827034
It's before the flood
>Ganon has already begun destroying hyrule
>Has been sealed in castle by sages or some shit and separated from Ganondorf (old man)
>Old man helping link because he needs him to break the seal and reach full power
>Link is a clone because real hero didn't come
>Tries to save hyrule but fails
>Manages to wish for hyrule to be flooded because triforce
>Tall mountains become different islands from wind waker
>>341831568
This could happen way after ST, back in original Hyrule.
>>341831614
there's literally an official timeline you dumbass
>>341831449
>>341831090
I wouldn't hold your breath on Easter Eggs being indicative of the plot.
I imagine this is more like Minish Cap that just throws characters and things in to make the player nostalgic, not to tell a story.
>>341831614
>how do you explain hyrule being different in every game
gee, how do you explain Texas being different from 1700 to 1900 to 2016 [current year]?
the passage of time, dumbass.
>>341831320
Yeah, I don't really think he's the real Hero of Time, but Aonuma is deliberately pointing to Ocarina of Time in reference to this Link for some reason.
>>341827193
>what is tower of the gods
>>341831769
except Aonuma has already dropped hints about when the game takes place, it's clearly something they've thought through
Man I really don't give a shit about Hyrule.
Guys what if there's a FOURTH timelines split?
>>341831947
Then why post about it?
>>341831972
>>341831614
I'm sorry that people have fun talking about a game series they like, anon.
>>341831606
He probably got with Malon in the Child timeline. Thats why descendant is a simple hearder, in roughly the same place as her ranch if you considerthe ruins of the temple of time
>>341831568
Funny, I just watched that movie recently while playing Twilight Princess. I really appreciate your post anon, thank you for contributing to the thread.
>>341831972
With a 4th triforce piece :o
>>341831972
o shit
>>341831885
Yes but I don't think Easter Eggs to things that don't fit what it winds up being means the answer is "Actually it's a nexus where branching timelines merge". Like at least one of the posters I responded to thinks.
Because that's the same as a nonanswer to the tune of "It's takes place after all of them simultaneously"
>>341832060
>>341831786
>>341831767
Despite a official timeline, zelda universe is fuck too open, its ages from game to game, like, SS is the beginning of time and WW is 100 years after OoT. The official timeline doesn't make any sense and it is there just to pease the fandom.
>>341832064
Doesn't the child timeline lead to him leaving Hyrule following Ganondorf's banishment to the Twilight Realm? I thought that's how he ended up in Termina? And the Links aren't descended from one another, they're reincarnated. It's fully possible for a new Link to appear even if the previous one died without ever having children.
>>341831810
Maybe this one is the Hero of Time's replacement for dying/disappearing in the downfall or adult timelines.
Guys, guys... What if this involves some time travel fuckery?
Like, you get sent back to OoT by the Sheikah to kill Ganondorf at birth or something and whatever you end up doing causes OoT Link to fail and die?
It's a Grandfather Paradox, but it explains why Link's failure is canon in one timeline.
>>341831972
>timeline 2a: hyrule thoroughly fucked up, Wind Waker events occur
>timeline 2b: hyrule mostly fucked up, BotW events occur
>>341829882
lazy devs
>>341832049
>>341832102
>>341832230
>>341832649
I mean it's possible. It is Nintendo.
>>341832049
I hope these weird dog mole things come back. they're funny.
>>341832375
>The official timeline doesn't make any sense
It does though. There's some small inconsistencies since they obviously didn't implement it till OoT at least but the broad strokes are all there.
>>341832381
Man, I wish OoT link wasn't so fucked.
At least he became a total badass
>>341832064
i honestly doubt it, it makes sense for TP Link's background but it just doesn't seem like something HoT would do. his life is literal shit. he would probably die childless and alone in a forest.
>>341830962
It happens at a time that's equivalent to when Wind Waker took place.
And they really don't care about the timeline and are just throwing whatever they want into the game because fuck it why not?
Link is a fucking PSYCHO MURDERER
>webm relatedI also hate butterflies or any flying insect
>>341832876
What happens to him after all of his knowledge is passed onto TP Link? Does he get to enjoy an afterlife with the Sages?
>>341832876
Not sure why he had regrets. dude saves the future and an alternate dimension. I'd be pretty happy with my accomplishments especially when lon lon ranch seems like a cool place to live.
>>341833009
The new Link is a naked arsonist.
>>341833138
But thats the thing man, you don't know what those regrets are, why he was still stuck in that moral plane till a new link rose up.
>>341833009
on one hand this feels hilariously evil
on the other this feels like sweet revenge for those random bomb butterflies in mario 64
>>341833138
He probably wanted to do more or settle down and have a family, or have a progeny. Saving the world at the cost of literally everything that you are is a pretty raw deal. I doubt he has regrets as a hero, but more as a person.
>>341833282
>tfw navi randomly leaving is the cause of his regrets.
>>341829969
the Hero of time hasn't suffered anon he was just doing his duty to hyrule waiting to find a worthy successor, he knew rest would come when his job was done
>>341832594
That was one of my thoughts as well.
You're basically a clone or a construct being manipulated by the Sheikah to do timeline-altering shit.
This might explain the reason why the Great Flood happened in the adult timeline as well.
>>341833451
The guy spent so much time traveling between the 7 years, all the people he met, all their outcomes.
If he was The Hero of Time for Ocarina of Time.
>>341833138
>Fights his hardest to save the world
>Succeeds, but has to sacrifice his childhood in the process
>Sent back by Zelda to save the past
>Gets a second chance to enjoy his childhood, but can't now that he's basically already experienced more battle and fighting than pretty much anyone else alive
>Basically a child in an adult's body in OoT, and an adult in a child's body in MM
>doesn't even get to continue living in the world he saved
>Navi, his best friend and companion, is gone
>Never gets to pass on the knowledge and skill he's spent his whole life acquiring
>As far as we know he never got to truly know love, or have his own family
>If MM is anything to go by he basically just becomes a wanderer
The dude gave up his entire life twice to save the world, it's no surprise he was a bit fucked in the head.
>>341833009
>>341833147
The new link does seem strangely violent.
The Koroks are the exact same as in WW
There was a great sea once
Ganon was sealed 100 years ago
Link has slept for 100 years
Everything is in ruins
I think that this takes place after Link fails to defeat Ganon in OoT
BOTW Link is an imperfect clone, created to let the spirit of the Hero be resurrected without having to wait for a "real" Link to show up again, but the process took one century
Hyrule is in ruins because of the Imprisonment War
Koroks are there because it happens at the same time as WW does in the other timeline, and Hyrule was temporarily flooded to try and stop Ganon but it failed so the goddesses let the waters evacuate, however this still led to most people leaving Hyrule for mountaintops & other nearby land while the sages fought to seal Ganon
>>341827870
>yfw you climb to the top of one of the mountains and find outset island ruins
>>341833147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTobF2XM3y4
>>341833681
Link isn't more violent, the player is simply given more freedom of action, and most choose to use that freedom in violent ways.
>>341828871
LOZ Goes Open World!
Off topic, but what happened to the Gerudo after OoT? Were they killed along with Ganon?
Maybe thats whyshade link is regretful, he caused a genocide
>>341832594
We /holdthedoor/ now
>>341832375
>The official timeline doesn't make any sense and it is there just to pease the fandom.
Exactly what doesn't make sense about it?
>>341832594
Yeah, I had issues with there being an extra timeline where he failed. Couldn't you then say that any time he fought canon there was a timeline split? Is there then a split for all major events? It could allow for future games in more altered hyrules without worrying about the timeline too much
>>341833868
In the Twilight princess timeline, it's implied most, but not all, were executed in the Arbiter's Grounds.
>>341833868
Without Ganondorf there was no one to impregnate the women for the next 100 years and they all eventually died.
>>341831635
>before the flood
No way. Too many ruins and too few people.
>>341833736
The reincarnations happen every 100 years why would they need a clone? I mean I guess to stop ganon from killing him before they found him?
>>341834079
I thought they just fucked other Hylians and their babies were Gerudo regardless
>>341833147
>>341833681
I'm loving this pyromaniac meme
>>341833769
Oh hey the fire rod fire ball leaves a burned trail on ground when used.
>>341834037
it really more to do with the fact that link can leave the adult timeline thereby abandoning hyrule, but he lost was easier to explain than the concept of timeline continuation, theres also a theoretical split at the end of skyward sword due to the same reason
>>341834149
The towns and people were removed from the demo
>>341834269
but then every generation would be less and less Gerudo until they were basically just Hylian
>>341834079
Its actually canon gerudo go to the castle town to look for men
>>341834227
The reincarnation doesn't happen every 100 years though. I think it has been 100 years a couple of times, but otherwise the amount of time is unspecified and implied to be much greater than just one century.
They'd need a clone to have a new Link to defeat Ganon before the seal on Hyrule Castle would break.
>>341831568
In a far off land. This could be the un-flooded remains of hyrule.
>>341833868
>>341834079
Some made it through, though. Telma is one of them. Though it seems that nearly all of them were exiled.
Also they fuck Hylian men to reproduce, if necessary.
>>341834390
Ganon (the king of gerudos) is reborn every 100 years. I would assume link and Zelda are reincarnated around the same time, but alright
>>341832925
>he would probably die childless and alone in a forest.
Orrr....the hyrule castle graveyard in TP
>>341834041
Wait what? where is this implied?
>>341834379
hyper dominate generics
all phenotype information is in a gerudo's X chromosome, and its always dominate
>>341834379
Its magical dude lmao
Like in elder scrolls a Nord and a Redguard can fuck but the baby wil always be the race of the mother
>>341829969
One of the treehouse girls called him the Hero of Time during the livestream too. I'd find a time stamp but that shit is 5 hours long.
It was probably a slip of the tongue anyway.
>>341834539
There's only been two Ganons bruh, he just keeps getting revived. Ganondorf from OoT is resurrected in practically every game after, except in one where he is reincarnated. Look up the actual timeline page from the Hyrule Historia. It specifically says he is resurrected/revived, not reincarnated. That's why Ganon has such a huge fucking grudge in TP and WW.
>>341827870
I mean all the references to different games in the series could just be superfluous if it takes place after the water has receded, because it's the ruins of hyrule, it would make sense that everything and the kitchen sink is there
I think people are looking way too into this
>>341833868
>Failure Timeline
Ganon killed them to have the Triforce all for himself.
>Child Timeline
Most executed though later in FSA they've rebuilt their civilization and then Dorf reincarnates.
>Adult Timeline
Unknown, possibly wiped out after Dorf was sealed adding to his wrath once he breaks out.
>>341827034
Well the koroks show up so probably
>>341828871
>>341830613
>>341833802
I'm getting really excited about this from the fact that it's shaping up to be so similar to MGSV alone
Maybe this is our Chapter 3
Our Outer Heaven
>botw takes place BEFORE twilight princess
>thats why we only see the castle, no big town or walls around it
>why we see the temple of time, but no fuckhuge forest surrounding it
>and why the temple of time and bridge of eldin looked even more fucked up and crumbled in TPdon't know why the koroks, though
>>341834864
Towns and characters removed from demo
>>341834864
the koroks are the only thing fucking things up but there's no real reason they can't exist in the other timelines
>>341834580
The route to Gerudo Desert is closed off, none are around, their leader was known to be executed, and one of their holy temples has been turned into a prison (which is empty and full of ghosts, skeletons, etc.) by the time you get to it in TP
>>341834037
It basically went like this:
>Zelda 1, 2 with Link defeating Ganon then defeating Ganon's minions trying to revive him
>ALTTP introduces the Imprisonment War
>OoT shows the Imprisonment War, but adding Link to the lore, then the timeline splits at the end: in the future Ganondorf has been defeated & sealed, in the present Ganondorf gets imprisoned before he can do his coup d'état
>However, instead of letting the adult timeline be the original games and the child timeline be Majora's Mask and whatever they'd do next, they decided to have Wind Waker be the adult timeline instead, putting the original games in an unespecified bubble
>Things get even messier when TP goes off the child timeline and PH & ST go off the adult timeline while the original games make less and less sense to put anywhere, especially since Ganon's origins in ALTTP don't actually coincide with OoT anymore
>>341834539
A male Gerudo is born every 100 years but no one said he would be a reincarnation of Ganondorf. Ganondorf himself has always been the same guy except once. In OoT he first appears, in the failure timeline he remains Ganon and keeps getting defeated, sealed then returning, up until Zelda 1 where he dies for good. In the child timeline he gets imprisoned, then returns in TP, where he dies but is reincarnated in FSA. In the adult timeline he gets sealed, comes back, Hyrule is flooded, etc. and he eventually dies and never returns.
Let's not forget that two Links and two Zeldas can coexist too. The Hero's Shade in TP is OoT Link, while Zelda 1 and 2 feature the same Link but different Zeldas (Zelda 2's being the ancestor of Zelda 1's).
>>341834864
Do tell senpai. why is the statue of the goddess in the temple of time all of a sudden?
>>341834763
You are absolutely right. Its just a male gerudo born every 100 years and I had a brain fart my bad.
>>341835075
someone built it after OoT? not a hard task
>>341832370
But this is literally a new texture for TP HD, it woulnt be strange if Aonuma hinted something with this. After all there are Easter eggs of Breath of the wild in TP HD too.
>>341835069
You forgot to mention the failure timeline that stems from Zelda 2, where Ganon is revived. :^)
>>341835075
SS lore retcons
>>341834379
>human/earth genetics exist in a magic fantasy world
>>341830385
I look forward to the speed runs or the possible joke ending you get for doing it.
>>341832064
What was TP Link's deal? They never reference him having a family or anything.
I think I've finally figured out the old man's identity.
>>341835264
I actually wonder why BOTW can't happen after Zelda 2.
>Hyrule Historia implied Hyrule's decline which started with Zelda 1 would end with its people fighting each other for the Triforce, and the country is as desolate as possible in BOTW
>No Ganondorf, only Ganon, and he's become ridiculously powerful and more like a mindless evil entity much like in the first two Zelda games
>Game's logo is the same as the one for Zelda 1 in the Japanese release
>Master Sword is all rusty because no one has used it since ALTTP
>Regardless of his efforts, Link got killed in Zelda 2 and his blood was used to revive Ganon
>BOTW Link is a revived Link from Zelda 1/2, after the Sheikah retrieved his body, but the process took one century
>If it is true that the game brings back together the three timelines, it would make sense for it to be the last chronologically
>>341828871
Fuck it. He's the Minish Cap guy in the legend.
I seriously hope we get some kind of classic dungeon hidden in a tree or some new version of the Chris Houlihan room
>>341835640
The Turn A Gundam of the Zelda games.
>>341830613
It's been... 100 years.
>>341835640
>he's become ridiculously powerful and more like a mindless evil entity much like in the first two Zelda games
This is because he's stuck within Hyrule Castle. The angled towers around it are what's keeping him imprisoned and in that incorporeal form. Probably some sort of Sheikah technology.
>>341835531
>tfw this is a fourth timeline and this is Nintendos rewrite of it
>>341834849
I'm going to make them give back our past
http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DRXmIqtVrZUo&start1=143&video2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D1rPxiXXxftE&start2=0&authorName=mute and fullscreen the Zelda trailer
>>341827034
It actually seems to take place in the fallen timeline with the events taking place either before or after the original Zelda.
>>341831635
What about the people praying for a savior and Link never coming, thus massive flood?
>>341826471
If this is a drained hyrule from Wind Waker then what caused said draining?
Let's make this clear: it happens in the failure timeline. This is Ganon, not Ganondorf.
>>341836031
Hmm that's an interesting thought. WHY didn't a new link appear like usual before the flood?
>>341836339
Because the Link of that time period fucked everything up by going back in time, stopping Ganon from taking over Hyrule, and basically making a new timeline without a chosen hero. This is why the Link from Wind Waker has no actual ties to the reincarnated hero of legend: he was just some random schmuck that the King of hyrule found who happened to look like the hero.
>>341836316
Wait, there are three timelines?
I knew about the adult/child split, what's this one?
>>341836060the timeline splits again with wind wakerganondorf wins in this oneuses triforce to drain hyruleking of hyrule manages to seal ganon within the castle somehow, magic or some shitbotw link is a grown up wind waker tink, which is why he sports a similar blue shirt and has a higher pitched voice than TP adult link
>>341836612
happens when link is killed during the battle against ganon in OoT
>>341836612
The Downfall timeline.
It's the dumbest of the lot and the reason why so many people hate the Zelda timeline now.
Apparently its a "what if" branch-off of Ocarina of Time, where if the Hero of Time is defeated by Ganondorf, it results in the failure branch.
Just read up on it via google or some shit.
>>341836692
>wild is a failed toon link(ww) timeline
>we're playing as an older wind waker link
You know what? sure why the hell not. doesn't sound outlandish and explains the king...err old man.
>>341836692
>>341836786
How is that any different from child timeline, though? I mean the outcome is still the same. Wouldn't the Goddesses flood Hyrule regardless?
I was thinkin the old man was the king of hyrule from windwaker
. But if you think about it, the Ganondorf from windwaker was all tired and weirdly sentimental. Maybe the old man is both Ganondorf and *not* the badguy because hes been separated from the demise spirit after he was defeated.
And now, somehow, we're back in flooded hyrule where he was abandoned.
>>341836786
you spelled the adult era wrong
>>341837173
His general look matches WW Ganon pretty well.
>>341837173
>sympathetic dorf
people seem to always forget he killed the 2 master sword sages.
>>341837254
In one of the IGN streams, you can hear the Hyrule Castle theme when he approaches you to talk about calamity Ganon.
It's the King.
>>341836957
Adult timeline: Link defeats & seals Ganondorf then goes back to his time. Ganondorf comes back, the spirit of the Hero does not exist in this timeline anymore, Hyrule is flooded.
Child timeline: Link comes back from the future, and reveals Ganondorf's intentions. Ganondorf gets imprisoned.
Failure timeline: Link dies while fighting Ganon. Ganon ends up being sealed by the sages anyway.
The failure timeline is necessary because although OoT was supposed to represent the Imprisonment War of ALTTP, it ends up being too different (Ganon goes back to being Ganondorf, there was a hero to fix things up in the first place, etc). Wind Waker also decided that Hyrule would be flooded after Ganondorf's sealing by the sages, effectively undoing ALTTP and Zelda 1&2, so to let these games remain canon a third timeline had to be made.
>>341837173
>>341837254
The old man is wearing a black and red garb, and has a triforce pendant in BotW. Assuming this is the WW timeline, it's Ganondorf.
>>341837371
The God's killed his entire race.
>>341837451
>Gods*
>>341831568
Could be yet another timeline split where Ganondorf got his wish instead of the King.
>>341837173
>>341837254
>The Demise spirit is immortal and will always come back
>It's more powerful and destructive without a host and rampages without purpose
>It turns out that being contained in ganon and being defeated between periods of dormancy was keeping the damage to a minimum
>Link must help Ganondorf regain his evil and powers in order to contain Demise
There's literally a blank space before WW where Ganondorf wins because no Link appeared. If we are to believe every Demise incarnation must have a hero to face his anger then where the fuck is he?
WW is the adults defeated timeline split.
did they ever approach this thing? what is it? an owl?
>>341838093
Some people were saying it's some kind of axe-cutter NPC.
Might be nonhuman, like a goron, or a member of a new race.
>>341837435
Couldn't ALTTP and the first two games be at a much earlier point?
Explains why things were so sparce in Zelda 1.
>>341838093
>yfw Link becomes the beastmaster
>"And did you happen to recognize the voice at all?"
>No
>"Then...that is a shame."
Who's the voice, and what the fuck happened to this Link?
>>341834480
Is their proof Telma is a Gerudo? I thought she was myself until I noticed she has blue eyes instead of yellow.
>>341838467
The voice is (probably) Zelda, and it's speculated this is a Link from a previous game.
>>341838208
>Couldn't ALTTP and the first two games be at a much earlier point?
Like, before OoT and after SS? No because Zelda 1 featured a ruined Hyrule with no people living there. All the Hylians would have left and I doubt they would ever come back.
A better question is, could they take place after TP?
>>341838591
She has green. It's speculated that it's a sign of the genetics starting to mix.
>>341838467
Wait, when does that come up?
![Nintendo+Power+Zelda+2+world+map[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FcM3UgA.jpg "Nintendo+Power+Zelda+2+world+map[1].jpg")
>>341838208
>>341838715
They already explained why everything was so sparse in Zelda 1
>>341838729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGXg0KTgbY0&feature=youtu.be&t=12m53s
SO, can we all agree that this takes place during 'The Era Without a Hero?' (the game takes place before the events of Wind Waker but after Ocarina of Time)
>>341838729
>Green
Oh, right. My bad.
Public Demo when?
What games are you fags playing until March of next year when it releases?
>>341838467
99.9999% of the voice being zelda
>>341838898
I think it does, but I could be anything at this point.the only really possible placements are in the adult timeline or the downfall timeline though.
>>341838786
>>341838715
Colour me confused, then. Why were things so sparce in Zelda 1? How long had Ganon been in power?
And is OoT the birth of monster Ganon? Or was he somewhere in SS?
And why would things be in shambles and ruins after TP?
>>341838898
No. Things look way too ruined and faded. This is likely post great ocean draining, based off all the water damage on the buildings.
>>341827034
The lanayru desert in Skyward Sword use to be an ocean. They could be the same ocean.
>>341838963
I never finished Spirit Tracks so I decided to try it again.
The game is fucking barren, but it has the best Princess Zelda in any Zelda game so it's hard to hate it.
>>341838591
Notice the tattoos on her face? The 3 dots?
She isn't the only NPC in the game that shares that.
Fanadi and Agitha also share similar tattoos on their faces.
This is Nintendo's way of providing clues to theorists, their way of indicating what happened to the said races that are no longer present in TP; they're pretty much extinct or have left hyrule with these three being the exception.
>>341838986
>I think it does
I meant to say it takes place in the adult timeline, IMO, but not before WW.
Whatever this thing is better not disappoint.
https://youtu.be/aA3HWQ8jJcw?t=13s
>>341838898
>can we all agree
>>341838992
>Water damage on all the buildings.
What? Don't make things up to support your theories, guy.
>>341839004
This. There has been more than one sea, and Lanayru is definitely more ancient than The Great Sea.
>>341839057
Kokiri, Gerudo, Sheikah alliance?
>>341839040
>yfw we'll never get another game exploring new Hyrule
>>341839057
Huh, never noticed that. Weird thought that Agitha had Gerudo ancestry.
That said, weren't there a lot more dark skinned hylians in TP? I can't recall because of all the NPCs.
That's one thing TP did really well, actually. Castle City actually felt bustling.
Everyone thinks this Link is SS Link because he's right handed but forget about another Link that is right handed.Shadow Link
>Would explain why "Old Man" Ganon is your mentor.
>Sheikah are also known as Shadow folk.
what if it's actually HW Link? They both really like the color blue.
Things from all the different timelines converged into HW which would explain why there are TP and WW references.
>>341839004
Forgot all about that, good catch.
>>341838715
>>341838208
Ganon couldn't exist before Ganondorf. The timeline went like this:
>Zelda 1
>Zelda 2 (direct sequel)
>Zelda 3: A Link to the Past (prequel to Zelda 1)
>Zelda: Ocarina of Time (prequel to ALTTP, shows the Imprisonment War)
>Zelda: Majora's Mask (direct sequel)
>Zelda: The Wind Waker (sequel to OoT but happens in the future or "adult" timeline)
>Zelda: Twilight Princess (sequel to OoT but happens in the present or "child" timeline)
>Zelda: Skyward Sword (prequel to the whole series)
>Zelda: Breath of the Wild (???)
![ZeldaII-AdventureOfLink-Hyrule(Unmarked)[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/iOSsCmv.png "ZeldaII-AdventureOfLink-Hyrule(Unmarked)[1].png")
>>341838992
In the lower left corner of the Zelda 2 World Map is a region that purposefully was designed to evoke the Zelda 1 world map. It's to show that that entire game was just a fraction of the world of Hyrule, since Zelda 2 was all about being a "bigger and better" sort of sequel.
In lore, it also makes sense since Zelda broke up the Triforce of Wisdom into 8 pieces to hide it from Ganon. That area fits such a role: it's secluded enough from the majority of populated Hyrule so as to not endanger her people, but small enough that it would be believable she could accomplish her goal.
>>341839228
>What? Don't make things up to support your theories, guy.
I'm not making up shit. The structures we've seen on the open plains look like they've been submerged. Look at their walls.
I really want to like Skyward Sword. I want to finish it. I always think about trying to get into it again, but the faults just keep me away.
I really like the IDEA of Skyward Sword. I like the upgradeable equipment, the different shields, collecting materials on your way to the dungeon, solving people's problems in those mini sidequests, and the concept behind the motion controls and even the art style. I like all of these things when I think about them.
It's just that the actual game surrounding these things is just so flawed I cannot bring myself to finish. It's so mindnumbingly boring and hand-holding. Fi is one of the worst partners in terms of her dialog. The tutorial and the forced and funneled story segments are so grating. The back tracking is unbearable. It's Zelda on rails. Which is a shame because it has some of the better design choices in the series (and removed some of the best design choices in the series).
>>341839057
So Thelma's a Gerudo, and Fanadi is a Sheikah... what's Agitha supposed to be then?
>>341830196
I appreciate the joke.
>>341835901
WHY IS IT SO PERFECT
brb editing a trailer w/ this music
>>341839393
That's pretty much the general consensus anon, you're not alone.
It still makes me mad that they had the gall to have Fi at the end be like "lol emotions" when she had no development whatsoever. And it's a shame, because there's about two or three strings of dialogue in the game where she actually has a laugh-out-loud dry sense of humor, and if they had built on that it would've been amazing.
>>341839393
SS is great idea, poor execution.
Anyone have the webm of the giant floating thing in the sky?
>>341839361
I'm confused, anon. So no matter what, Zelda 1-2 take place after OoT?
>>341839279
This won't be true.but fuck would it ever be a cool twist
>>341839285
not canon
>>341828871
>Wake up, Spirit of the Hero, wake up and smell the ashes.
hold me, /v/. this is the first i've been interested in a nintendo title in a long time
>>341839410
Kokiri obviously.
>>341835640
can someone explain how this brings the timelines together
>>341839587
Yes, in fact so far Zelda 1-2 are the farthest down any of the timelines there is.
>>341839279
Y'know I would seriously like some background into Sheikah and the term "shadow folk", because since OOT, it appears it means "Trained as Ninjas". It could be so much more interesting than that.
>>341836952
This made me think of something. Could the old man in the original Zelda be the King? The land of Hyrule seems to take place in a rather apocalyptic setting with no kingdom found whatsoever, probably destroyed by Ganon, and the King doesn't seem to have a regal appearance because of everything that's happened.
>>341839124
It looks like a spider
>>341837435
the thing i hate about the OOT story making three timelines is that two other games use time travel (OOA and SS) so shouldnt they cause split timelines too?
>>341839393
At least Lanayru exists and everything in it is fucking great. Even its section during the song of hero quest is actually new content and a pretty tough one at that.
Did anyone else notice the break in the trailer? Right after he is looking out from the tower and right before he is seen fighting with the spear the trailer breaks. No music and it's black for just a fraction of a second. Leads me to believe they cut something from it (revelation of Calamity Ganon? Something they want to hold off until later to reveal?)
>>341838467
This isn't Link at all.
WHAT THE FUCK WHY IS NOONE TALKING ABOUT HOW THE MASTER SWORD IS FUCKED AND DONT ANY OF YOU FAGGOTS TELL ME THAT THIS IS POST WW BECAUSE THAT IS THE MOST STUPIDEST FUCKING THING I HAVE HEARD
>>341839581
Anyone?
![Oh+fug_aec68b_5550465[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tdPP1mv.jpg "Oh+fug_aec68b_5550465[1].jpg")
>>341829969
>skellington hero of time used custom armor and and weapons
>BotW link uses custom armor and weapons
if BotW link loses an eye during a story even I will literally lose my shit.
Ok. I might have been overconfident in thinking that this occurred during the Wind Waker timeline. There is a possibility BOTW occurs BEFORE the original Legend of Zelda and The Adventure of Link, during the Era of Decline.
>>341839845
Maybe they did but we just haven't gotten the alternate timeline games yet.
>>341828347
>Kokiri could've evolved into Koroks in all three of the timelines, not just WW.
Except that the Kokiri evolved into Koroks as a direct result of the flood.
>>341839928
I say we continue not talking about the Master Sword! It's stupid anyway!
Also, I think this Calamity Ganon fellow just has a bad reputation is all. We should give him the Power of the Gods, show we misjudged him!
Fuck you faggots, have some canyons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_canyons_and_gorges_in_Utah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Canyon
>a certain SOMEONE during E3 mentioned Utah a few times
>>341839880
I don't think they cut something out.
I think it's intentionally left in there to indicate that this Link's memories have been wiped, or that he has amnesia of sorts.
Because we see a second cut like that later on in the trailer, with a guardian eyeing Link down.
>>341839663
Second from the left still looks like a muppet.
>>341840039
>a certain someone
was it bill
Reminder.
>>341838467
I have a feeling the voice is Navi. No real backing for this I just have that feeling.
>>341839057
>>341834480
Gerudo have yellow eyes and round ears. These people are hylian (kokiri?)
>>341840132
And?
>>341828871
>[AN ANCIENT HERO AWAKENS]
Seriously nintendo?
>>341839845
I mentioned this in another thread, and it's REALLY head canon but, I theorize it's because of the Triforce splitting, rather than just time shenanigans.
Each line is caused by one of the Triforce wielders.
Downfall Timeline caused by Ganon killing Link
Child Timeline caused by Zelda sending Link back in time.
Adult Timeline caused by Link beating Ganon.
Makes some sense to me, but hey I'm just a simple dude.
>>341833138
The things he did as a kid weren't known to hyruleans, only to whoever followed him and he saving it from Ganon was part of the future timeline which was essentially made null once he exposed ganon as a kid, he besically went from hero to "that testimony kid".
>>341840132
Reminder for you to fuck off.
>>341839928
My guess is that it has something to do with Calamity Ganon.
Fi couldn't contain the remnants of Demise's essence and it was released out of her, result in the Master Sword's decay and Calamity Ganon's power to a certain degree.
>>341839661
I haven't been this hyped since Twilight Princess, and that was when I was 12 years old. I feel like a little kid again.
>>341840151
