What made Ragnarok online so good?
i'd play aeva again if it wasnt dead
>>341820223
What other severs support andRO?
>>341820449
idk but you'd think aeva would be more popular because it has a android and browser client.
>>341819734
Good Weeabo 2D grafix by the time it was released.
Babbies first MMO (but actually good).
Easy to start with and hard in the last part of the game.
Upgrades made sense.
The game thrived from the interaction between players (Trading,WoE,Farming,MVP hunts,etc)
Publicly available drop rates.
Etc.
Simply put RO "almost" nailed the best MMORPG experience.
>>341819734
Exploration, party play was actually necessary, WoE, class balance.
>>341819734
In addition to what others have said, I always felt like the fight mechanics were really good.
Comparing to WoW, I never felt like I was just waiting for bars to complete while playing RO.
>>341820804
Don't forget build viability, shit like INT assasin, Bow Rogue and Autoattack Sage worked.
Heck i knew a lot of people who fucked up a lot of points but ended up making it work.
>>341821249
Yeah, I can see that. You could pretty much always spam the shit out of your skills if you had to against a strong enemy. I don't recall much of anything having a cooldown.
>>341819734
the music, the world graphics, the sprites
everything else is varying degrees of meh
i'd kill for a solo ragnarok online that has all the content though
>>341819734
THIS is what made it so good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZB1OC2_Pto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqijsweJzFQ
this game had a fucking atmosphere that provoked a sense of wonder, right from the moment you start it up. i don't know if it's just because i'm an adult now, and the nostalgia's hitting me or some shit, but there was just something so wonderful about exploring worlds in mmo's back in the day. i personally think that with the time and resources given to them, a lot of teams truly did the best they could with the tech they had at their disposal at the time. ragnarok, early WoW, city of heroes, matrix online, star wars galaxies, etc. all of them had a unique idea to work with that they tried to flesh out as much as they could.
nowadays you just don't get that sense of love for every detail that used to drive games like this. all of them just feel like they're trying to make that quick microstransaction buck instead of making a quality game that leaves you with a lasting impression.
>>341822105
that's essentially every private server people run. just ignore everyone and solo every fucking thing on a high rate server. i did, and had a blast doing it.
>>341819734
You being underage
/thread
>>341822493
i always played it with the music off
>>341819734
>What made Ragnarok online so good?
I'll state it again for anyone who seriously doesn't know:
Lack of themepark quests. Abundance of very easily accessible-grinding zones and a well-designed overworld. Plus a grinding strategy that rewarded taking on harder mobs that were above your level.
Meanwhile, you go play fucking Tree of Savior and you don't see a single soul up until you reach the dungeons because everyone is grinding text boxes on their stupid fucking fetch quests.
>>341822663
>muting based yoko kanno music
fucking disgrace. fite me.
>>341821693
>asura monk
>spam
that would be hot if it were possible
>>341822757
i didn't even know tree of savior was out. steams page says it released in march but there's no option to install. am i missing something?
>>341822989
http://store.steampowered.com/app/372000/
brace for "meh"
>>341822989
Yeah, you are
The game is out, but only if you pay
Pick one
>Ten dollars
>Twenty dollars
>fifty dollars
Bear in mind: The cash shop is barren. There's a half-dozen outfits on it, which equates to two per primary starting class.
So you pay fifty dollars for nothing that you can spend it on and a head-start in a game that's already waning in population.
IMC are retards.
>>341822989
Oh and the game is 100% P2W. You need a premium token in order to
-trade
-use the auction house
-Gain the same EXP as in the Korean version
-Run a dungeon more than once a day.
I don't want to return to Mabinogi, but I am afraid I will have to.
>>341823797
Christ
what a completely unplayable piece of shit
>>341823669
I haven't played since launch, are there still retarded restrictions on market/trading?
>>341823797
>>341823669
well i'm gonna go ahead and dodge that bullet then
loads of stat/skill freedom
fast combat (although that was marred by the awful grind)
neat classes
card system was pretty creative
WoE
fuck I miss the old days
Hunting for that fucking OP Golden Thiefbug card for 10 hours straight because people camped his spawn like a motherfuck.
Immune to all magical damage? Fuck yes fambam
>>341819734
The deep customization, numerous classes, and the people.
Some of my best memories of this game are just me and my guild mates shooting the shit chilling in Louyang.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-T5ayLR1bc
Did I mention the Elder God tier OST?
>>341824424
I'm going to fucking cry.
>>341824424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HBJv5bEnYc
I heard soundtemp's ost for Tree of Savior wasn't that great or something though?
>>341819734
Freedom to build your character. Everyone starts out simply as a 1/1 Novice, from that point onward you can take any job choice you like and put point into any stat and skill you see fit.
Fast and dynamic battle system. Sure, the start of the game is practically just ctrl+clicking away at porings, but once you've acquired skills and made a build, the speed of battle was really good, especially so in PvP and WoE.
Shared world. Everything, cities, respawn points, fields, dungeons, normal monsters to even bosses, they are all shared, it encourages players to actually interact with one another, to form parties to tackle big monsters or to more efficiently kill weaker ones, to compete for kills and recognition.
Variety of monsters and dungeons. Think of a dungeon, pretty much everyone has its own distinct monsters, only a few of them are actually recolors.
Great fucking music and a pleasing environment. After a long day of grinding or after a heated WoE, what could have been better than just sitting in a town like Prontera, Payon or Geffen and listening to the city's BGM as you chatted with your guild?
The card system. Not only it was a great way to customize your equipment but it also meant that anyone had the chance of making a financial breakthrough if you found a sought card. It moved the economy.
>>341824319
>played for years
>never fucking ever saw the actual card on anyone
the hell was the rate on it?
>>341822881
>Not having a shitload of Yggdrasil seeds on you
>Not having a professor to heal your sp and a priest to heal his hp in your party
Shit Asura Monk desu
>>341825080
1/10000 was the standard card drop rate, even for bosses
I only ever saw it in action once. some SinX had it and also a ghostring I think. Pretty much solo'd my guild and all our allies during WoE. It was real embarrassing seeing so many people wail on him while he busted our emp like it was nothing.
What's your opinion on Ragnarok mobile's version of the Prontera theme?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9Bkcc7zWo0w
>>341823669
>>341823797
Should probably point out this is all mostly false. The game launched a while ago and until maybe a few days ago you could freely download and play but they're having issues with the servers apparently.
As for the premium token stuff, you can run dungeons 5 times a day regardless of token, auction house is usable by everyone and so on.
I don't even like or play the game but don't just lie about shit.
>>341823947
Yes. They went full Nexon.
Nexon's restrictions in Korea are actually more lenient
>>341825249
>Should probably point out this is all mostly false
Except it's not .
>5 times a day
This is entirely false. You can only run once or twice a day without a token.
>Auction house is usable by anyone
False.
At most you can sell one item. Buying is limited.
Again, I know you might like the game, but don't lie about shit.
>>341825249
>The game launched a while ago and until maybe a few days ago you could freely download and play but they're having issues with the servers apparently.
they delayed the f2p portion again. No one knows when it's coming back up
this is the second delay since launch. june was actually the month they had projected to launch free2play back when they had the founders pack shitstorm.
it's a huge mess.
>>341824812
It's not as memorable as RO ost but on the other hand it's not as "intrusive". You can just play and not pay much attention to it. I've had myself turning off music in RO quite often when i couldn't take that same track repeating for x1000 time
>>341823669
>The game is out, but only if you pay
Wait what? Did they make it so you have to pay again or something?
I remember it being pay to play a while ago but then it finally "released" and was free and I downloaded it. Is that not the case anymore?
>>341825569
>Wait what? Did they make it so you have to pay again or something?
They delayed it again because their servers shit themselves.
If you downloaded it back then, you're still gold and can go play. But if not, the link is gone for the time being.
They've delayed it several times now because every time they announce that it's free-to-play-no-really-now, their servers promptly commit sudoku and they back down.
>>341823797
What a fucking bummer.
It seems like there's basically no MMOs with an actual playerbase anymore that aren't P2W or WoW/FFXIV
>>341819734
Satisfying grindan
Cool enemy variety
>>341819734
Small group of people who played ragnarok with me, came over from a gmud Realms of Kaos. It's getting remade, so if anyone wants to play a "new" gmud then http://www.ember-online.com/ is the new RoK.
>>341823797
>Run a dungeon more than once a day.
Wait dungeons aren't just maps?
>>341819734
can you play it with touchscreen without any issues?
>>341825698
>their servers promptly commit sudoku and they back down.
That makes sense. When I tried to play it a little bit after it was free for that period it was laggy as fuck and generally felt awful to play.
I highly doubt it'll happen but I really hope they sort their shit out and fix the P2W stuff and actually listen to the community. Visually the game is really nice and what I played seemed like it had potential, but from everything I've heard it seems like they're just doing everything in their power to make it terrible.
>>341819734
The fact that out of some 400 hours of playtime I spent on it, about 350 were spent ERPing with a friend of mine who liked to describe in great detail how much she enjoyed choking on my dick.
>>341825916
instances
dungeons in ToS are instances.
you only have a set number of times per day you can run every dungeon. There is no item you can get to reset your instance count (besides token which adds one single run). Plus the runs you make for one dungeon count for every dungeon at once.
ToS.
>>341826128
That's pretty awful
I just want to hang out in payon dungeon until I hit level X mane
>>341822663
Absolute MADMAN
>>341825530
wut? I started giving it a spin last night and haven't paid anything.
>>341826128
>Plus the runs you make for one dungeon count for every dungeon at once.
Literally fucking WHY.
>>341826275
Again, if you've installed it sometime in the past, you can play right now anytime you want.
But people who want to install it new are SoL until they decide they can take more players.
>>341826295
Also, as you would expect from a F2P MMO, the game is absolutely flooded with kill stealing BR shits.
Renewal was a mistake
>>341826006
>seemed like it had potential
It has no potential.
Everything besides art and music must be thrown into the garbage bin and started from scratch.
Damage formulas for skills being "shit X colored particles in Y pattern (line\circle\point in front) for static N damage + Int\Dex\Str depending on class archtype is not a fucking damage formula in a serious actual fucking commercial videogame product
Thw choice of 16 Hats being the only way to customize your look is a fucking joke, it's not 2003 anymore
This fucking railroad of a expcard dispensers is not a fucking gameplay
Just look at at that map and compare to a decade old RO. In RO you had priests and the like walking around glast heim and other undead-filled dungeons, archers and mages sought after multiple locations with immobile targets such as Floras and Geographers to safely lvl up, thieves were looking for slow attacking, low hit targets to bully, and so on
Everyone in ToS sits in their "Your lvl range" location until they can move into the next +5 lvls location that's conveniently is exactly the next stop on this railroad
Everything about ToS is a amateurish, idealess failure
>>341827313
As much as I farmed geographers, it's not a super interesting way to level
>>341827540
Neither is coming to any "your lvl location" in ToS with a bunch of retarded mobs that has no difference between themselves and murdering them in a scope.
Read again if you're missing the point.
>>341827849
I get your point, but a lot of the leveling in RO was just abusing dumb mobs
It was definitely cool using your strengths to pick where you leveled
>>341819734
It was made in a time where gamers actually liked playing games instead of whining about why they aren't winning.
>>341828040
Yeah, grind is never fun, but just how much options you had depending on your class\build\party availability\whateverthefuck else sure did help in elevating some of the repetition.
In ToS it's literally running between expcard dispensers in lvl50 zone, conveniently connected to lvl45 and lvl55 zones, until done. Then move onto the next. Anyone who comes up with this kind of game design should start inhaling cyanide instantly
RO was my first experience playing with Japanese people. I was learning the language in HS and it was fun talking to them, incidentally it happened with the international servers were being cancelled or something (honestly don't even remember anymore) so the only way to still play the game was to play on the Japanese servers, as the Korean registration process required something weird like your Korean SSN or some shit.
Eventually the damn Japs banned non-JP IPs but even then you could still play by using SOCKS proxies, which was a pretty convoluted process back then
I didn't even enjoy the game itself, honestly, but it had great music and it was nice listening to in comfy environments while chatting with JPs.
>>341826073
>she
I have news for you
>>341822604
>that's essentially every private server people run. just ignore everyone and solo every fucking thing on a high rate server.
Can you recommend one? I'd like something as close as possible to the original vanilla
>>341829045
iRO?
I'm playing on it currently and it's as dead as it can be. You're just soloing Bounty Boards until bored and that's your whole MMO experience you're looking for there.
>>341825240
pretty much the same thing actually but more cluttered which makes it completely inferior instead of being an alternative remix
Is iRO still as grindy as ever or did they change the rates? I haven't played since pre-renewal. Is it easy to level now?
>>341829343
>>341822493
I'm gonna say it right fucking now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuuKZdHD7ZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tevc5VsEO44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcbMHJShLxc
Ragnarok has the best OST out of all videogames in existence.Feel free to post based tracks
How's the game now? Can you really play it on Android like OP's pic?
>>341823669
>that's already waning in population.
man, it looks so good but they just really fucked it up with all the quests and linear progression through the maps. Exploration somehow ends up being a tedious chore instead.
>>341819734
Stat allocation that meant shit
Devs weren't concerned in making every class "balanced"
No tab-targeting
Fast gameplay
No cooldowns
Crazy abilities
>>341829605
why bother
dont bother
you've had your time with MMOs, you can't get back the charm (at least until VRMMOs maybe)
>>341829843
I'm joining the army and need a video game I can play on my phone so I want something I can play on AndRO.
>>341829605
Well apparently, Renewal itself is pretty much x1.5 of the original rates, iRo is constantly having some kind of x2.0 rates on top os that, plus Bounty Boards themselves are like "Kill 150 Mukas, get bonus exp equal to 150 Mukas on top of it" so the leveling is lightning fast. I'm few days in playing barely more then 3 hours a day due to work and i'm High Priest already
>>341829768
It's because of how they did bonuses for 100% the map
The maps are very clearly generated in some kind of tileset generator. There's nothing remarkable about any of them, no work put into them, just sections smashed together.
There are some maps that can't be 100% for the exp reward specifically because they probably didn't do any testing on those maps.
>>341825180
>games still insist on cooldowns
I fucking hate modern developers, I fucking hate them so much.
>>341819734
it wasn't good, The Big Three were all vastly superior (Ultima Online, EverQuest, Asheron's Call)
Is this game worth playing nowadays? Are there any private servers I can play on? Can my toaster run it?
>>341822663
Me too, anon. Sound effects too.
>>341830464
I'm pretty sure RO is one of those games that you can run on ANY of your home appliances.
>>341830398
Came here just to stir up shit didn't you?
>>341830464
>Is this game worth playing nowadays?
Nope
>Are there any private servers I can play on?
Yes
>Can my toaster run it?
Yes
>>341830051
>It's because of how they did bonuses for 100% the map
that shit would ruin even RO if we had to do it there. It's just so disappointing how out of touch IMC is with making the game decent (rather actively making it worse with how they're still sticking to their current approach).
>>341830640
>stating a fact is stirring up shit
>>341830861
>fact
RO was my backup MMO. Poured tons of hours into it. Loved it
But my heart will always belong toFinal Fantasy XI
I miss 'em both so much, and I'm super depressed there will never be anything else quite like them ever again
>>341825231
getting to 99 in geffen guild dungeon was fucking hell with pomdjyer chasing you around with his fucking posse and a golden thief bug card. fuck.
Why the fuck every developer fucks everything up nowadays? MMOs used to be good, there was a shining promising future to MMOs? Why is everything so terrible now?
>>341822493
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZB1OC2_Pto [Embed]
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqijsweJzFQ [Embed]
MY HEART
>>341831341
basically, capitalism, as soon as something gets popular, money ends up fucking it up
>>341832868
and if it doesn't make money, it dies and gets forgotten
Wow I have no idea RO was on android. Now I've seen everything.
How does it play?
>>341822779
RO 1 didn't have Yoko Kanno music you noob. RO 1.5 (scrapped 2) had a bunch of tracks by her, but they were mostly scrapped from the actual RO 2 monstrosity that is online.
It was almost all soundTEMP until recently. The lastest tracks are low quality, anyway. Give me the originals for life. So unique.
>>341834867
Same as the desktop version except you haven o hotkeys and you bind them to your screen instead.
If you hold and move your finger on the left on the screen you can toggle a joystick mode.
>>341830005
How do you solo things as a high priest?
Last time I logged in I was instantly invited to a guild, lol. Didn't log back so I assume I'm already out.
>>341831341
MMO's aren't actually good games. It's the community that makes them enjoyable.
Is this new Sarah server a cashgrab?
Everyone seems to think so.
>>341835287
Ragnarok WAS a good game, even if you played alone. I know because I did for 70% of the time I played.
>>341835381
HOLY SHIT they got a pre-2-2 class server with over 2000 people online? I can't believe this.
Rates are too low, though. Give me at a least x5 rates.
>>341835575
So yeah, I'm downloading this right now.
Anyone else up for some classic hellish grindfest?
>>341835863
>your date of birth in account registration only dates back to 1986
Wow this is a fucking ageist server. I seriously doubt RO is poblated by 14 year old asians in 2016but that would be nice.
>>341819734
what the fuck i didnt know you could play RO on android like that
>>341837175
I can't imagine how much of a pain it would be to vert firewall on a touch screen though
>>341827313
You're forced to sit within a 5lvl range of the monsters or your exp drops to nearly nothing. Blame the developers not the players for that.
>>341835261
Dual-boxing with my Sniper amd HP on a leash.
>>341838814
...what
Where the fuck did you see me blaming players for the game being shit? Explain yourself
>>341819734
target audience had low standards.
>>341819734
character designs that made great porn.
>>341839324
>tfw having an endow sage on my second account
>dual-wielding an ice pick and a 4x carded gauche with endows
>orc archer bow + steel arrows + endow
>gunslinger + endow
shit was cash
I also made a soul linker just so I could clear the death penalty on my super novice.
>>341842053
>having alts
Might as well makeyour own server and play solo faggot lmao
>>341820694
>Android support
Nigga i'm in
