Anyone feel like arguing about this?
Nah, it's pretty accurate.
>>341819103
Halo CE especially on PC with Custom Edition is great. An undeniable 9/10. Tight map design with solid gameplay.
>>341819227
It was so slow, though. And there was no skill-based movement aside from a few tricks. And the weapons weren't balanced. And the campaign wasn't all that clever.
Halo 2 multiplayer was better.
I agree with everything except Halo.
No, that's pretty accurate. Halo is damn good, but it's not a 97. I'd give it closer to a 88 or 91.
>>341819103
Youre wrong OP.
>>341819337
>too slow
Nah, Halo never tried to be anything but a medium paced arena FPS. Halo CE with the unintended gitgud mechanic that is leading really made multiplayer great and separate people who were bad and people who were good.
>weapons weren't balanced
The only imba gun was the pistol for 3sks. Which again on PC required you to lead the appropriate amount.
>>341819337
Halo 2 was fun but the bullet magnetism was a joke and anyone who took that seriously is a joke.
Just going to say I played halo 1-3 competitively and if you followed MLG you would have saw me play.
>>341819624
No, you're wrong.
>>341819103
Throw The Last Of Us on there, and it is pretty spot on
>>341819337
Halo 2 was terrible
1, 3 and Reach were better. I didn't play the most recent two but I'm sure they're better as well
>>341819653
You don't think BXR/Bing, quad shotting, and other techniques like that gave Halo 2 more depth? Not to mention that the maps were better.
Also which team were you on?
For the time, Goldeneye was amazing.
CE is GOAT you huge faggot
What about Uncharted 3-4?
>Last of Us not on that list
>>341819995
Whole series is overrated trash. Derivative as fuck, but it's derivative of movies instead of games.
>>341820012
>>341819687
The problem is that there is nothing obviously horrible about TLOU, it was just really overrated despite being pretty good. The AI was probably the worst part.
>>341819103
Pic related is holy grail. But if you honestly factor in a metacritic score or a review when forming your own opinion on a videogame or movie or music or any other piece of art then you're fucking retarded anyway.
>>341820789
THIS
MGSV wasn't even fucking finished.
>>341820164
>The problem is that there is nothing obviously horrible about
That applies to half the games in the OP
Correct. Especially Bioshock. I hated that entire series
>>341819103
>this game popularized game mechanics I don't like
>therefore this game is bad
literally saying because the game is popular, it's bad
>>341821060
>Halo
casual
>Mass Effect 2
RPG mechanics are shallow and choices don't matter
>Skyrim
broken and shallow
>infinite
no redeeming qualities other than aesthetic
>Implying halo combat evolved is not the best game ever made
hahahaha stay mad /v/
>>341819103
Throw in Deus Ex and Half Life 2
>>341819103
the list is missing Zelda OoT
>>341821182
Like I said, half the games on that list
>>341821182
>shallow games are bad
does every game deserve to be rated 40 or lower just because it isn't a RTS?
Is Super Mario Bros the worst game of all time because all you do is run right and jump?
>>341821251
>that image
hmm....
>>341821221
That sounds more like a Reddit opinion than anything else
Console Halo used to be a joke on this board
>>341819778
You dont quite understand what I mean by leading.
Most guns, if not all, in HCE had projectile travel time, feel free to open a map up in Eschaton and check for yourself, that in combination with the netcode and obviously distance from your target you had to place your crosshairs ahead of the enemy in order to actually hit them.
Count in opponent strafing and suddenly hitting someone actually took some thought especially if youre not playing against retards.
>You don't think BXR/Bing, quad shotting, and other techniques like that gave Halo 2 more depth?
They do add more depth but the only sorta tricky thing to pull off is quadshots and even then with practice and the horrid bullet magnetism made it easy enough.
>>341819103
I would say that Golden Eye is overrated when you're just looking at the game itself. That rating is way too high. Perfect Dark is a better game in every conceivable way. However, Golden Eye was pretty fucking revolutionary, and is responsible for shaping a lot of gaming history.
GTA...every...fucking...time
>>341819103
Fuck you, ME2 is great.
>>341821182
>choices don't matter
ME3 dropped the ball with that. The choices impacted ME2 well, but they were rendered meaningless by retcons in ME3.
>>341819103
>Scores that are much higher than they deserve
Who says what they deserve? Sounds a lot like its justyour opinion, man.
>>341820789
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>>341819790
not fucking really, considering doom was made half a decade before it released, and quake released a year before
>>341820789
I like The Phantom Pain, but no game that is released so blatantly unfinished should get that amount of praise.
>>341821309
>Is Super Mario Bros the worst game of all time because all you do is run right and jump?
Most people can't get past the first world in SMB
>>341819103
I just finished Bioshock Infinite and I'm baffled at how well the game was received. I thought it was just another case of /v/ overreacting to a disappointing sequel but that game was irredeemable garbage
>>341819103
goldeneye 007 is still good to this day. anyone who says otherwise are newbabbies who can't wrap their mind around the controls. fuck ya'll niggas
Games to add
>Overwatch
>Super Mario World
>Oblivion
>Bioshock 1 and 2
>The Last of Us
>Metal Gear Solid 3-5
>Uncharted 4
>Legend of Zelda OoT
>Witcher 3
>Final Fantasy VII and IX
>Fallout 3 and 4
>Half-Life 2
>Portal and Portal 2
>Minecraft
>Undertale
>Arkham Asylum
>Call of Duty Modern Warfare
>All Borderlands Games
>Darksiders
>Pikmin 2 and 3
>Dragon Age Inquisition
>Destiny
>The Wolf Among Us and The Walking Dead
>>341821836
Why play Goldeneye when you can play it's superior successor?
>>341819103
I feel like mountain blade needs to go on there.
>>341819103
>no Ocarina of Time
>no The last of us
Gone Home is so overrated that people have forgotten about it.
>>341822157
No one thinks those are good though
>>341821961
die anytime
>>341822260
People defend OoT all the time
>>341822308
I wouldn't call them people.
>>341822282
>I like shit games and im proud of it
>>341819103
I would replace Skyrim with Oblivion and Infinite with Bioshock 1. That's when they started being overrated, simplified, and generally worse than other worse rated games.
>>341819103
The Last of Us deserves to be on there, what a fucking piece of shit. Horrible 3rd person combat mixed in with a linear as fuck story that was predictable at every turn.
>>341819103
Halo 1 didn't have regenerating health you mong.
skyrim is not overrated
pretty much established bethesda as a massive publisher, all games are copying it even still to this day, even zelda is copying it now
also, it left a cultural impact that changed gaming forever. the same way MGS1 made an impact on how action games are played, and still to this day, developers are copying it
not to mention the whole modding on consoles, and bridging pc/console game ontop of becoming the first devs to fully support VR for their AAA retail game
>>341819103
Mass effect 2 is the best one so I don't know why it's over rated
2>1=3
>>341822530
>skyrim is not overrated
>all games are copying it
that means its overrated
>>341821656
They played like shit on consoles and didn't have split screen multiplayer
Any game that does something first on consoles is guaranteed to be overrated, even if PC games have been doing it for years
>>341822530
Let me guess it was your first ES game
Add the entire Zelda and MGS series, and anything Naughty Dog makes post Jak and Daxter.
>>341821725
>I thought it was just another case of /v/ overreacting
That's exactly what it is. And you're no different from /v/
>>341821272
go away arin
>>341822157
Ocarina of Time deserves its score because it's stood the test of time. It hasn't been totally eclipsed by newer games like GoldenEye was.
>>341822749
include Jak and Daxter too, it was just a mediocre Spyro
>>341819103
Missing Witcher series and TLOU but apart from that spot on
>>341822517
Yes it did.
>it had a non regenerating portion of its healthpool so it didn't have regenerating health at all
You don't think this is true, right?
>>341819103
I'd say it's 100% correct
>>341822414
>half life 2
>shit
again, die anytime
>>341819103
the only one i see rated highly by people that aren't complete plebs is goldeneye
>>341821725
>disappointing sequel
Bioshock 1 and 2 were garbage as well you fuck
don't act like you're one of us just because you hate infinite
>>341819103
GTA 5 is completely overrated but its also a very, very well made game since its got grafix AND open worldtake note bethesda
The author probably wasnt alive when Halo CE or Goldeneye came out because they werent just well made games, but actually changed where gaming was going. Shooters weren't as popular back then as they are today. The commercial success of Halo and Goldeneye got developers attention though and now we have 1 million shooters.
To say these games were "over rated" is superficial.
However ME2, Skyrim and Infinite BS are all reasonable.
>Gone Home wasnt included even though it was showered with praise for doing something that has already been done but in liberal agenda context
Totally not overrated a gem of a game so brilliant
>>341822260
Metacritic shows otherwise
Oot was the highest rated game of all time for a while
>>341822852
It had a regenerating shield, but still had health and health packs. It's Halo 2 that boiled it all down to regenerating health.
>>341822878
>hurr durr im a valvedrone
hang yourself idiot
half life 3 memes are only tossed around by redditors
>>341822586
I loved ME2 the first time I played it. Thought the combat was great, loved the characters, got sad because I let Thane and Legion die during the suicide mission.
Then I replayed it a few years later and it was fucking awful. The writing felt forced as hell, and the gameplay was so bad I couldn't even make it past meeting Tali again. I don't know what happened.
>>341822987
that doesn't mean the first two half life's are bad.
>>341822937
>It had a regenerating shield
Yeah, exactly, so why are you saying that "Halo 1 didn't have regenerating health"?
>It's Halo 2 that boiled it all down to regenerating health.
You realize that Halo 2 had the same health system as 1, right? It just hid it.
>>341822852
That shield was gone in two shots if you played on Legendary, and conserving your health was incredibly important.
Waiting for the shield to go back up actually encouraged players to better utilize cover, and more carefully plane their advances, which led to smarter play than a shooter like quake where you run like sonic pinballing from health pack to health pack.
You were slow, and enemies were deadly. Halo is a thinking man's shooter.
>>341822592
>set precedent in which all future games have now copied and iterated upon
>overrated
you need to google that word, you're dumb as shit
>>341822718
no, nigger, i played morrowind as my first ES game, skyrim was the tipping point in where literally every developer now is trying to make an open world game due to how successful skyrim was
but go ahead, and pretend you didnt play morrowind on a fucking xbox of some shit , like the dumb little pleb you are
There is nothing worse than people discussing how "overrated" something is because that just leads to people arguing about the difference between good and great or bad and good or bad and great. You have people who think the game is mediocre arguing with people who think its bad for no reason.
There is just no good discussion to be had about overrated anything.
and then you have people like >>341821961 who are obviously contrarian
>>341823108
But it wasn't Halo 1 that popularized having regenerating health, as it didn't have it in the standard that set the convention for it in the future- that was Halo 2.
>>341822815
>Ocarina of Time
>stood the test of time
take off your goggles
>>341823143
>Halo is a thinking man's shooter.
>>341823145
yeah, it's definitely Skyrim that caused that despite TES and Fallout games selling well and being open world forever.
>>341819103
There is literally nothing wrong with regenerating health.
>>341823143
>a thinking man's shooter
>>341823414
t. casyak
>>341819103
>This chart is objective, indisputable, and factually correct
>>341823143
> Halo is a thinking man's shooter.
9/10 bait, would have taken it seriously if it wasn't because of the cuck reference.
>>341823108
No. No it didnt.
>no Super Mario Galaxy
Invalid.
>>341823143
>a thinking man's shooter.
>>341823267
We just had a thread over this shit. Very few games have even attempted to directly challenge Zelda, and OoT has solid game design. It isn't literal perfection or anything, but it doesn't suffer from a lot of things the later games did (namely pacing issues).
>>341823267
>I wasnt alive when it came out so im not really sure what people see in it, the graphics are so ugly!
Solid combat, pretty good story, pretty good puzzles, varied gameplay, music that didnt suck.
What exactly did you not like about OOT?
besides it simply being dated doesnt make it a bad game.
>>341823414
>There is literally nothing wrong with sucking dick
>>341823575
>It isn't literal perfection
>scored as such
therefore its overrated you fucking nintenyearold retard
Games to add
HOMM3
Alpha Centauri
STALKER
Age of Empires II
God Hand
Kirby Air Ride and Super Star
Paper Mario TTYD
Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga
Dwarf Fortress
Deus Ex
Planescape Torment
Fallout 1 and 2
Silent Hill 2
Viewtiful Joe
Doom
Sengoku Rance
TimeSplitters 2/Future Perfect
Thief Gold/2
Super Metroid
Metroid Prime
Mother 2/3
Jet Set Radio
System Shock 2
Hitman Blood Money
Shadow of the Colossus
Ace Attorney
Gradius V
Secret of Monkey Island
Shenmue
Cave Story
GTA
Mount & Blade
MGS
FF Tactics
Ace Combat 4/5/Zero
VtMB
Quake
Unreal Tournament
Demon's/Dark Souls
Nier
Rollercoaster Tycoon 1/2
Ghost Trick
Homworld
Pikmin 1/2
Myst/Riven
Dawn of War
Eternal Darkness
Zelda games
DMC 1-4
Grim Fandango
Kerbal Space Program
Monster Girl Quest
F-Zero GX
Contra Hard Corps
C&C Red Alert
Freelancer
Battlefront
TWEWY
Chrono Trigger
Monster Hunter
Animal Crossing
Metal Slug X/3
R-Type III/Delta
Harvest Moon FoMT/64
DKC2
Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
Master of Orion II
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater
Rythm Heaven
La-Mulana
Mechwarrior 2
Team Fortress 2
Undertale
>>341823620
>one button combat
>solid
aayyyyyyyyy
>>341823836
do you need a hug?
Goldeneye really doesn't belong anywhere near those games, it was a perfectly passable game rather than a huge fucking disappointment and has a fucking tremendous legacy considering it popularized FPS on consoles
>>341820164
>>341821182
OP image literally says "overrated games", which TLoU is. A game can be good and overrated at the same time. Just look at most Zelda games, and I say this as a fan of them.
>>341823836
I honestly can't disagree with any of these. These, to different extents, are all overrated.
>>341824024
>passable
>rated that highly
THAT MEANS ITS OVERRATED
>>341823671
You can admit something isn't perfect but still give it a glowing review because it goes above and beyond despite those flaws. It's almost like the reviewers at the time even acknowledged that fact.
Besides graphically, the only real thing that dates the game is the framerate. Design wise it's still excellent.
>>341823620
boring story, clunky control, dungeon felt like chores, combat worse than batman combat.
>>341824086
>100
>not perfection
holy fuck you're an idiot
go back to re ddit
You forgot witcher 3, undertale, half life 2, deus ex, and overwatch
>>341823863
>its bad platforming adventure puzzle game because it only has 1 attack button
???
>>341824097
>Batman had good combat
opinion discarded
>>341824072
What games do you consider underrated, anon?
>>341823307
Not that anon but halo DOES take a bit of thinking. Go play Halo 5 matchmaking alone and you will see.
>>341824297
>go play a casual game
id rather not
>>341821961
MGS3 was fucking great
>>341819103
>Halo: CE
>Overrated
No you you are just too young to know who console shooters were like before Halo
>>341824207
I think games are overrated way more often than underrated. People are always trying to praise underrated games which makes them overrated.
Maybe Left 4 Dead 1 just because no one really talks about it and i consider it stellar.
>>341822915
>The author probably wasnt alive when Halo CE or Goldeneye came out because they werent just well made games, but actually changed where gaming was going. Shooters weren't as popular back then as they are today. The commercial success of Halo and Goldeneye got developers attention though and now we have 1 million shooters.
You're retarded. When someone says something is overrated, they're saying something is more popular or more highly rated than it's worth. Saying that it's popular and had influence is a worthless point to make in response. That's the entire basis of their argument.
>>341824176
>that guy said combat is solid
>argue about combat. one and only
>bring up platforming adventure puzzle
??????
>>341824350
It being great has nothing to do with it being overrated idiot
>>341819103
GTAV really is that good though. They'll never top it.
>>341824097
>camera locks on enemies
>can dodge roll and strafe
>certain enemies had strengths and weaknesses
Opinions are fine but the combat was most definitely not clunky.
>>341824165
All you're doing is making 99 the new 100 with your logic. You realize this, correct? A numerical score without a way to objectively measure "quality" is arbitrary. Giving the maximum score isn't saying perfection, it's simply giving the game the highest praises possible based upon that scale. Especially when most outlets do not use a 100 point system, but instead something like out of 10. If you want to rate and distinguish the quality of games on a 10 point scale, you'll eventually have a 10.
>>341824336
>casual
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>hes a weeaboo noob
missing ocarina of time
literally the most overrated game to ever exist
FF7 needs to be on there too
tardos don't know why Goldeneye was rated so high.
it was Pierce's first appearance as Bond and it was the first Bond movie in 6 years after Dalton resigned as Bond.
basically it's the best and most successful movie game ever created and we all know about movie games.
>>341824195
>reading comprehension
"worse than" is the keyword. it's bad but zelda is even worse than that
>>341819103
1. Add Uncharted and TLOU, literally the worst """"games"""" I have ever played, it's beyond me why normies like this shit.
2. Zelda in general is overrated as fuck, didn't play a single Zelda in the last 10+ years that deserved its hype/praise.
3. Halo Combat Evolved was pretty amazing for it's time, the rest of the series is overrated though.
>>341824476
>Giving the maximum score isn't saying perfection, it's simply giving the game the highest praises possible based upon that scale
>perfection isn't the maximum possible score
>perfection isn't perfection
>>341824369
>git gud anime fag
>people are this bad at halo that they hate it
O im laffin
>>341824074
How is it overrated if it has the full package of an 8/10 game but that little 10/10 innovationcalled splitscreen multiplayer
>>341820164
Gameplay is like an above average 6.5/10
Only real good part of the game is story and graphics.
>>341824097
>dungeons felt like chores
This is like saying you think the platforming in Mario is bad. You may as well move on, you're either just baiting or it wasn't for you.
>Play Skyrim
>Everyone tells me it's festering shit compared to MORROWIND
>Play Morrowind
>Cuckbrides writing literally makes me want to kill myself
>GTA V
It looks ok I guess but I've never played it.
>Halo
It's not an awful game but I wish it didn't exist so MS never started fucking up the industry.
>GoldenEye
It's fine for its time.
>ME2
>Skyrim
>Bio Infinite
People like these games? Like, unironically?
>>341824637
>8/10 game
>rated 9/10
>not overrated
>>341821961
>people like game, so its overrated
>my favorite game must be unpopular to be gud
>>341824409
>o·ver·rate
>ōvərˈrāt
>verb
>have a higher opinion of (someone or something) than is deserved.
>it doesnt matter if the game changed the course of gaming from platforming to shooting if i didnt like its overrated
>>341819103
>It's a my opinion is objective thread :^)
The only thing you can mark as objective is technical shit like performance or graphics.
That being said, that list is mostly spot-on except for GTA V and Mass Effect 2
>>341824836
>Goldeneye
>fine for its time
that means its overrated or garbage now
>>341824579
theres no such thing as a game without flaws. but there is such a thing as a 10/10 game.
>>341824579
Are you retarded? I just explained that "perfection" isn't a measurable quality in videogames. It doesn't exist because there's this thing called opinions. But please, explain how a game can be perfect in some aspect.
>>341824916
First of all, the bottom line is just a joke.
Second of all, you can certainly be objective about things that aren't technical like performance and graphics. See: David Hume's On the Standard of Taste
>>341820789
>>341821045
>>341821653
>>341821686
>muh chapter 3
>>341824614
>>341824480
>halo fanboy using git gud as an argument to defend his casual console shooter
HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
oh I am laffin
>Halo 5 is a thinking man's shooter trust me!
A HAHAHAHA
>putting Halo with the rest of that absolute garbage
put Half Life 2 there instead
>>341819103
>GTA V
>overrated
look I know we all like to yell at gta v here and claim the new game sucks the old ones are better like /v does with everything, but in the end GTA V deserves the praise it gets. No other game on it's scale that can even compete with it. Maybe Saint's Row but they stopped being a GTA SA inspired game and kinda became it own thing
>Bioshock Infinite
this might honestly be the worst game ever made
>>341824916
>The only thing you can mark as objective is technical shit like performance or graphics.
Not true. 60fps hurts my eyes and is worse than 30fps
>>341824418
>The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Japanese: ゼルダの伝説 時のオカリナ Hepburn: Zeruda no Densetsu: Toki no Okarina?) is an action-adventure video game developed and published by Nintendo for the Nintendo 64.
???
It isnt a sword fighting game.
>>341820164
>>341820012
>>341825142
yeah, Halo is the real thinking man's game after all
>>341819103
yes anon that is your objective,indisputable and backed by no facts opinions.
>>341823620
>Solid Combat
You wouldn't know solid combat if you had to hold up your shield for a minute before attacking.
This thread is what happens when people equate taste in video games to intelligence
>>341823836
We got a big one boys
>>341819103
I don't really disagree with anything on this list, but I think Oblivion was probably more damaging overall than Skyrim
>>341825463
>I suck at the game
>therefore this game sucks
Good logic.
>>341825536
CAN
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READ
ITS ABOUT SOMETHING BEING OVERRATED NOT DAMAGING TO THE INDUSTRY
>>341823836
>Dwarf Fortress
You better justify yourself before I kill you.
I give zero fucks about the rest of those, but why is DF "overrated" ?
>>341825604
It is even more overrated considering it received similar praise but was even worse as a game and set bad precedents
>>341825536
>tee hee HaloCE came out the same year i was born!
I feel like im the only one here older than 20 who knows what video games were like before Goldeneye and Halo CE.
Did everyone really forget that 90% of all video games released before 2000 on consoles were some variation of Platforming?
Did everyone really forget how we ened up in the age of shooters?
Really??
>>341819103
Half-Life 2
Dark Souls
All the Zelda games
Add those 3.
>>341825759
Dwarf Fortress is the LEL XD IM A TRUE GAMER game but it's piss easy for anyone with the reading comprehension of a 3rd grader.
Reddit literally has a subreddit for Dwarf Fortress
As a halo fan I agree with halo Ce's placement on the list. It has a lot of flaws that the later games in the series don't have.
2 has the best story, ODST and reach are tied for best campaign. 2 and5are tied for best multiplayer. Reach has best customs.
3 is overall probably the one with the least amount of flaws but it doesn't do anything the best.
>>341819337
Anon I agree 2 is the better game by a longshot but shitting on CE for having bad weapon balance while praising 2 in the same sentence is just retarded
2 has the worst weapon balance i've ever seen in any FPS ever. But the game is a ton of fun and feels good in spite of that.
>>341823108
>You realize that Halo 2 had the same health system as 1, right? It just hid it.
Not exactly. It's true there's still health in 2, just not visibily in the UI, but it also recovers over time without pickups
That said it does so very slowly.
>>341825225
To add it added way more features than GTA 4 had
still tho
>rip jetback
>>341825876
If you take console gaming seriously after the PS1 era you're really part of the problem
>>341825536
Oblivion really wasn't that bad. Regardless of what people say, Morrowind's combat system wasn't that good either. It only worked for around levels 10 to 20. Before that you couldn't kill shit, and after that you were a demi god(which is why i always named my class demigod, there's no other way of describing how op you are). Oblivion tried to fix this system but ended up breaking other parts. It was still a great game.so is skyrim 8/10
>>341820789
Not even close.
Undertale is highly overrated as a game. Its combat is heavily simplified so people who only play RPGs can beat it.
It's still a 92 at the present, higher than Witcher 3 and MSGV.
>>341826067
PS1's entire catalog as a whole was overrated as fuck
There is a reason you enjoyed it as a child
Why does everyone think halo 1 did regening health. CE didn't. It had health packs. It was in 2 but not 1
>>341825594
You clearly didn't understand what I was referencing
>>341825952
reddit has a subreddit for 4chan, what say you?
>>341826182
your shields regenerate.
>>341826140
I didn't say anything as to regards of the game quality, simply that it was the last era where you had an excuse to not own a PC for gaming as dedicated 3D graphics have been affordable after that era
>>341826208
reddits subreddit for 4chan is basically just /b/-lite
it doesn't represent /v/
>>341825594
Same logic shitters use to bad mouth Halo
Even though it's the thinking man's shooter and the best game of all time
Stay mad /v/
>>341826067
built a PC when i was 17. My consoles just collect dust now.
>>341826140
PSX and PS2 had solid catalogs. Army men, Crash bandicoot series, Spyro series, FF and twisted metal were all fantastic. A lot of fun with emulators too since i dont need to buy a multi-tap for 4 player
>>341826301
>/b/-lite
>doesn't represent /v/
>>341825487
To be fair, there is a correlation between the two.
It's no coincidence Modern /v/ has shit taste in games and low intelligence
>>341826206
Fair enough. Some of the enemies were bullshit but I dont mind enemy variety, especially when they all had their own gimmick in fights.
Apparently that is a bad thing.
>>341825952
Your favorite game has a subreddit for it. Nearly every game or series has.
>>341826301
/b/-lite is /v/
>>341826572
>That one fucking like metal or samurai dude was badass with the axe I think
>>341826301
If there's any board that the 4chan subreddit is representative of, it's /v/
The userbase of /v/ and reddit is indistinguishable from one another
>>341819103
Where's undertail?
>>341826572
>>341826206
You can damage them while they block if you really want to be super aggro.
>>341826508
>there is a correlation between the two.
I have two friends, one who is pursuing a MBA in Finance at LBS and another doing a Phd program at Stanford for MRI Technologies and they both have the most pleb taste in video games ever. They enjoy games that don't take hours to enjoy mostly because they don't have the time required to enjoy "complex" games.
There is basically no correlation between intelligence and fucking video games.
>>341825952
reddit has a subreddit for fucking everything from pictures to triathlons and lasers.
yea, it's true, dwarf fort is mostly piss easy for someone with the reading comprehension of a 3rd gamer, but you need the patience of an adult to really play. dwarf fort is a game that tries to simulate reality (more so than 99% of every other game, but obviously it has plenty of "gamey" non realistic things) the reason i play dwarf fortress isn't the difficulty, it's the realism.
to me, dwarf fort is the "LEL XD I GIVE A FUCK ABOUT REALISM IN MY GAMES"
i think rogue system can be another game like this too.
>>341825876
The bar for "console fps" didn't exist when GoldenEye was released. We had nothing to compare it to. That's why it's overrated. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who argues for GoldenEye over more modern games or even Perfect Dark on the same console on anything other than a strictly contrarian basis.
>>341826631
>>341826662
>>341826769
>>341826914
>actual redditors
Since this topic is getting pretty into discussing halo, can anyone actually explain to me why everyone shit on halo's regenerating health system?
I know calling it a thinking man's shooter is retarded, but it did make combat more punishing than most other shooters at the time, and caused you to slow down and have to read the situation before engaging in a fight. Why is this bad?
Or are sonyfags still butthurt they never got to play it?
>>341819103
Halo CE deserves it
it had
good level design
great enemy design
great enemy AI
and of course the multiplayer was a pretty big deal although Halo 2's was bigger and better
honestly I think complaining about the regenerating health becomes a nitpick because everything else about the game is pretty good and it doesn't even make the game that much easier anyway
but the main reason I actually think Halo seems deserving of its praise is because of a certain other little game by the name of Half Life 2 that did most things worse than it despite coming out several years later yet it gets just as much praise somehow
from a purely objective standpoint I would honestly say that HL2 is a closer relative to modern casual CoD style FPS while Halo CE is closer to classic FPS like Doom
>>341823836
Soooo... What games besides LoL do you play?
>>341826858
Your super anecdotal evidence sure proved him wrong.
>>341819103
My co worker once came up to me and was like "Man I finished the new Bioshock game this weekend and it's like the best game ever."
>>341827021
>im wrong and retarded and you cant stop me look at me
>>341827194
versus the evidence he provided?
>>341825952
How is the overrating of the difficulty (hurr Dark Souls) a reflection of the overall quality of the game? Aren't you doing the same shit you're accusing them of doing and letting other people's opinions on the game cloud your opinion of the game's actual merits?
>>341827021
>pointing out facts makes you a redditor
Please. This board is practically a subreddit at this point.
>>341827106
You dont understand, Overrated doesnt mean to have a higher opinion of (someone or something) than is deserved.
It means its popular but I dont like it so it sucks.
>>341827301
>letting other people's opinions on the game
>aka other people are overrating the game
wow
>>341827094
>it did make combat more punishing than most other shooters at the time, and caused you to slow down and have to read the situation before engaging in a fight.
It's really sad that people actually believe this.
>>341821961
>witcher 3
>overrated
it got properly shit on by the downgrades it received and barely makes up for it with the additional content that is reasonably priced
>>341826914
I do enjoy DF a lot, since base building is my fetish, but I have to say there's no excuse for the shitty interface in this day and age.
>>341819103
Take GTAV off
>>341827236
Yeah actually. Even just using /v/ is less anecdotal than "two of my friends studying ivy league have pleb tastes so there's no correlation between intelligence and shit tastes"
>>341827407
Name shooters with harder single player campaigns than halo on Legendary.
>>341823836
>Freelancer
>>341827094
>but it did make combat more punishing than most other shooters at the time
What are you on about? Regenerating health actively removes punishment from making mistakes and means you don't have to worry about long term consequences to making mistakes. Halo's one saving grace in this regard is that its entire healthpool didn't regenerate so you at least had long term consequences if you fucked up a lot.
>>341827609
Ok, let me just ask
Do you think that you have solid taste in games or do you think anyone in this thread, including the OP have solid taste in games?
Snake Eater
>>341827379
Once again, how is overrating the difficulty of the game the same as overrating the quality of the game itself? Can you not see the distinction between those two things?
>>341819103
Where's dark souls? It should totally be in that list.
>>341819103
Except both GTA V and Halo: CE were completely deserving of the praise they got.
>>341827802
because the difficulty is the only thing dwarf fortress has going for it
>>341827623
Doom on nightmare
>he actually thinks regen health makes a game harder and adds depth
You might as well have just admitted to being a giant cocksucking faggot. I mean seriously get that those dicks out of your mouth
>>341826276
but you also had non regenerating health under those shields.
>>341827754
>do you think anyone in this thread, including the OP have solid taste in games
This thread clearly shows otherwise
>>341828089
there are people who agree and disagree with the OP in this thread
>>341819103
They're overrated sure, but at least Halo CE, GoldenEye (yes its not just nostalgia I played it last month with buddies who never played it before), and GTA V are good games. Not 90+ points good, but good. Problem is journalists are so insecure about their positions that they need to give everything an 80+ unless its hot garbage.
>>341828157
Its like everyone spouts their opinion as fact or something.
My taste in games is objectively 10/10 for instance
>>341827958
Responses like that are why this thread sucks. You're not even attempting to bring up an argument to justify anything. Just a bunch of childish namecalling and deflection.
>there are people who unironically defend regenerating health in shooters
>on /v/
>>341827961
>he actually thinks not having health regen makes a game hard and adds depth
Also Doom on nightmare is easy as shit, are you 5 or something?
>>341821961
>pikmin
>>341828418
Wow you parroted my greentext word for word and added the word not in. How clever. You're totally not a petulant underage shitter
>are you 5 or something?
I don't defend regen health or Halo as being the hardest shooter ever made so no
>>341827623
Serious Sam, Painkiller on their hardest difficulties.
>>341828418
>health regen
>makes a game hard and adds depth
Quite literally drink bleach.
I love bioshock infinite. It's a great barometer.
Any time anyone says practically anything positive about it I know I can safely ignore any opinions about videogames that person has and just nod politely and think of tits while they talk.
>>341827623
Killing Floor HoE solo all maps. Waaaaay less people are capable of completing that.
>>341827623
These as well.
>>341827623
>halo on Legendary.
Is beat with plasma guns and headshot finishers.
>>341819103
>no ocarina of time
>>341829197
It's really true. Also applies to a bunch of other games as well.
I personally think GTA V is massively overhyped to the point of madness. I was very underwhelmed by it and still don't understand how people think it is one of the all-time greats.
I thought IV was better, and I didn't even like IV that much.
>>341829197
I love Red Letter Media reaction images. It's a great barometer.
Any time anyone uses one, I know their posts will be 100% correct and brilliant.
I personally think [current entry] is massively overhyped to the point of madness. I was very underwhelmed by it and still don't understand how people think it is one of the all-time greats.
I thought [previous game in the series] was better, and I didn't even like [previous game] that much.
>>341829559
>'tism
>>341829683
nah, you don't have to be autistic to point out very cliche posts that are easy to mad lib
>>341826928
>overrated
Overrated doesnt mean "I didnt like it, so its overrated"
Overrated means to have a higher opinion of (someone or something) than is deserved.
The simple fact that GoldenEye was unique and pushed the limits of gaming (for the time) would mean it isnt overrated...
Fuck i didnt even play goldeneye that much as a kid and dont really care for it, but to call it overrated is wrong. It scored how it should have.
>Halo CE popularized casual shooters
Ah haha, retarded.
>>341829781
yeah, but you do have to be to do the thing you did how you did it, and you know it, so what now you fucking autist?
>>341825048
>you can be objective about taste
(you)
>>341819103
>GTA:V
Yeah, it's fun, but gets very repetitive. It doesn't do much different from the previous games in the series.
>Halo: CE
This game was great for it's time, but you got the regenerating health thing wrong. That started in Halo 2. Halo: CE still had health packs which were the norm for FPS at the time. I think it deserved that score because it brought the PC FPS feel to consoles and was generally fun.
>GoldenEye 007
That game was the best multiplayer console FPS for it's fine as far as I remember. As long as you had friends, you could spend hours playing that game and it would never get dull. The C-button strafing almost had the same feeling as dual-stick strafing that we have today. I agree with that score as well.
>Mass Effect 2
This game casualized what could have been a great series. The first game was a fantastic RPG whose worst flaw was a bad menu system. The story, gameplay, and exploration aspect was fantastic. Mass Effect 2 was a strict linear action game that had you selecting which hallway to walk through next and lazily telling you a barely decent story. I still haven't played the 3rd game because of how much the 2nd game hurt me.
>Skyrim
This is the definition of a company conforming to the casual audience so they can try to get as large of a profit as possible.
>BioShock Infinite
BioShock 1.5. Nearly the exact same story as the first one, even as far as trying to get the same shock-value twist, but with worse gameplay. They hyped up the rails so hard, but put like 10 spots in the game that you can use them, then made them so impractical to actually use.
>>341828056
true. But the fact remains that it did contain regenerating health. it wasnt the ENTIRE health system, but it was at least half, so.
>>341829250
Soloing HoE isn't really hard, you just need to grind level 6 perks and look up online what the best camp spot is.
>>341829919
>but you do have to be to do the thing you did how you did it
Your post is more autistic than anything I ever said
The fact that you're making this big a deal out of someone pointing out how cliche your post is makes you autsitc, and you know it. Fucking autist.
>>341819103
4 is a whole lot worse than 5.
>>341829963
>GTA
>repetitive
then what game isn't repetitive?
>>341820164
>nothing obviously horrible
Yeah loved how there was no sense of levels and everything was opened and you didn't have to spend 3 minutes after every clicker fight locating and placing a fucking ladder somewhere.
>>341821182
>casual
>shallow
>choices don't matter
>no redeeming qualities other than aesthetic
All apply to TLOU
All Halo games are trash. Bottom of the barrel lore and gameplay designed for retards.
Also Uncharted should be on that list. Specifically 3.
>>341829963
Infinite looked so fucking good before it was released
>open-ish world
>rails connecting different districts
>everyone isnt an insane splicer
>those big ole titties and corset
>coulda swore i saw a big daddy
Then it came out, jesus christ.
>>341830382
I'm drunk and can't really thing of a good answer to this question, so I'll give you points for stumping me.
What I was trying to get at, I guess, is that every GTA game pretty much does the same thing. You're someone who ends up as a criminal for some reason. You gave to go to this place, and either shoot these people/steal something/help this person do some crime, then talk to someone else and do the same things again. I've only play the first Assassin's Creed in the series, but it reminds me of that. Go one place, do some stuff, go somewhere else, then do the same stuff, repeat X number of times, GAME OVER.
>>341829948
Did you read the essay I suggested? It lays it all out in an interesting way.
I like CE quite a lot but if you're trying to say it didn't have regenerating health you're just embarrassed to admit a fact.
The shields regenerate, and your actual health does not but your shields are basically just fancy health that regenerates. The fact that your legit health doesn't recharge is barely noticeable since your shields will be taking 90% of the enemy's damage and should your shields fail your actual health gets blasted away in like two shots on the harder difficulties, meaning you're more likely to be dead than be low on health searching for a health pack.
Come on man, it's got regenerating health.
