Seriously why would get a fucking Scorpio when every game it has will be on PC?
>inb4 great specs
I can literally build a PC that shits on it in terms of graphical quality. You buy a console for exclusives which Scorpio lacks.
PS4 and NX is the way to go.
>>341785290
>the scorpio will not use the rest of the gpu if you're not running 4k
what did he mean by this??
eventually there won't be much of a difference in power between consoles and pc so i'm happy. no more half assed ports
i think its gonna exist as a slow transition to pc so that microsoft can eventually abandon the xbox
PCs don't appeal to the vast majority of the console market.
People want a box that they can just plug in and play FIFA/Madden/Cod/GTA on.
I'll buy the controller just to support them
Phil Spencer is my husband
>>341785290
Just nx anon, i can get your moviegames on my pc as well
>>341785290
the average Joe just wants to sit on his couch and play halo and gears they don't want to make a custom pc
>>341785290
>PS4 is the way to go
If you want to pay for a new console every 2 years since Sony has now declared themselves the enemy of PC gaming
>>341787257
>>341787047
People like that don't care about specs though: they'll stick to a normal XBOne
>>341785290
to avoid windows 10
>>341787391
They care about graphics.
>>341787391
everyone likes nice graphics
>>341787605
Average consumer doesn't care about windows 10 is bad memes.
>>341785290
consoles should die. exclusives are a cancer and have no reason to exist except to nickel and dime brand loyal autists
>>341787389
>the enemy of PC gaming
What does that even mean?
Sony is not competing with PC. The majority of their users don't care about PC at all.
>>341787636
>>341787724
if they cared about graphics why wouldn't they use a pc? if they cared about graphics why would they play the new cod every year?
Friendly reminder that people don't buy consoles for the exclusives.
Great specs, blu ray player, xbox exclusives, no blue screen bullshit or incompatible parts.
We dont know price point yet but we can assumr it will launch at ~600usd then drop to around 400usd after a year or two. Sold at a loss.
Your pathetic pc wont be built with those stats. Itll blue screen, have shitty heatsinks and more. Just face it, console is an all in one package with no hassle.
>>341787870
1 too lazy to invest in a pc
2 its a casual game with a very low skill gap
>>341787047
Sony and Microsoft have explicitly stated that more and more of their markets are overlapping with pc as pc gaming becomes more accessible and popular. so I don't think you know what the fuck you're talking about tbdesu
>>341785290
Same point in getting any other console. For the neat and tidy all-in-one package as opposed to buying components and building a PC. People just like the simplicity of a console and gaming from a couch without having to set much up.
Scorpio is a single item to be ready for 4k and VR memes
and it won't be limited to indieshit like ps4
>>341786158
Apparently he hasn't heard of anti-aliasing, or shadows or anything else that might be able to be beefed up with the resolution at 1080p.
>>341787745
>Average consumer doesn't care about windows 10
they don't.
>>341788003
>>341787724
>>341787636
Not that much as to spend 100+ more shekels on it
That's assuming they know about it, because the only thing the'll read is "Xbox One": they don't follow vidya media or lurk on /v
>>341787257
what the fuck? you do realize that most people own a personal computer, right? not powerful ones, but enough to play the majority of shit on steam
>>341787981
>Itll blue screen, have shitty heatsinks and more
itt console peasants say shit they know nothing about
It's like they're not even hiding the fact that they are evil.
>>341787981
2006 called and it wants your shitty PC memes back.
>>341788137
This. I can't wait to play great games in VR on the Scorpio™ like Fallout 4™ and Skyrim: Remastered Edition™
>>341787981
>Itll blue screen, have shitty heatsinks and more
>>341788232
>most people own a personal computer,
yup, but most people don't plug them up to their tvs.
>>341788257
>Hank Scorpio
>Evil
UN please
>>341785290
>Mentions how a pc can beat it with graphics
>Then goes on to say how the ps4 is the way to go
typical sonycucks
scorpio will shit on the neo and have games you can't access on the ps4. That's all that matters in the end.
>>341787870
>why wouldn't they use a pc
Multiple reasons:
>don't want to sit at a desk
>too expensive
>buying/installing games not convenient enough
>associate PCs with work
>want to play online with their friends, who probably don't own decent PCs either
>don't need a dedicated desktop PC for anything else
Even if some of those are uninformed opinions, they don't care enough to bother researching.
>if they cared about graphics why would they play the new cod every year?
They have low standards for graphics/performance, but if you tell them that buying this new system will make the graphics look better, they'll be interested.
>>341788331
>VR on the Scorpio
so MS never said how they'd use VR. their own headset? or can you use the oculous?
>>341787932
>Friendly reminder that people don't buy consoles for the exclusives.
Everyone who isn't an idiot knows this though, look at the sales of any multiplatform. Even the Witcher 3, a franchise that has never been on Playstation sold more copies on PS4 than any other platform.
I'm actually surprised Bloodborne was in the top 10
>>341787757
Yeah man of course. Remember when Atari dominated the market and the industry thrived on quality software because there was no competition?
>>341788232
Most people own a Macbook. If you ever went outside you'd know that. People are even starting to skip the laptop in favor of browsing the internet on their fucking phones.
Nobody owns a gaming-capable PC anymore except enthusiasts.
>>341785290
I have never had an Xbox game not run like what happened to me with RAGE and Crysis 2.
>>341788232
Some people just don't associate PC with gaming. They don't like using a KB/M and sitting on an office chair to play games. They just like having a console connected to a TV that they can play with a controller on a comfy couch.
>>341788437
Microsoft announced a partnership with Oculus like a year or two ago and everyone was scratching their head because there was no way the Xbox One was going to be able to handle it.
>>341787202
Just PC anon, I can emulate all the Nintendo games that aren't absolute diarrhea anyways.
>>341788047
>pc gaming becomes more accessible and popular
The types of games they're talking about are League of Legends and Minecraft.
>>341786282
LOL okay
>>341788234
>>341788325
>>341788336
>assblasted pc faggots defending their personal rigs
Go outside to your gamestop, nest buy, target, walmart, GAME, whatever your local store is and survey the people about their choice platform. Ask em why it isnt PC.
You retards know its simple to build a pc, but the genpublic does not. Its a wilderness from their perspective, even though you and I personally know logical increments and pcpartpucker Nd yourube take away any guessing game.
>>341788478
what are you talking about? how would not having consoles eliminate competition? that's like saying only having one dvd player on the market would affect the quality of films. every dev would still be battling it out for software sales
>>341785290
To be able to play on a living room tv, have friends come and play alongside, including the meme games like rock band.
Not everyone just wants to play overwatch with their steam friends.
>>341788426
Ahh the little xbots got there courage to post again on /v/
Face it faggot the only thing people need are ps4s, pcs and nintendo consoles.
And i have all three
Fuck xbox
>>341788561
thanks.
so basically scorpio is beffy just for Vr, and any enhancements to older games comes in resolution and framerate.
if thats the case it may not be worth it.
>>341788229
>they don't follow vidya media or lurk on /v
TV commercials of course.
>>341788698
We all know the general public are tech retards. You're acting like a retard also though with your 2007 bluescreen memes
>>341788515
I play pc games on my couch with a controller and 4k tv. Literally just plug and play why is that difficult for normies?
the only selling point consoles ever had was exclusives
it's like they're holding games for ransom
>>341787981
delete this
>>341788748
>play along
split screen is fucking rare these days
>>341788698
>nest buy
>pcpartpucker
>ND yourube
>>341785290
Idk man I think it's a bad move. 4k tvs are expensive, the Scorpio will be too, no reason to own it if you already have a bone or PC. I just don't see the average consumer getting one but who the fuck knows these days, when the shit test AAA garbage can still make a profit.
>>341787932
Friendly reminder that people who buy consoles for the exclusives can still buy multiplat games and you don't have an argument
>>341788880
They dont want a pc tower next to their tv like an autist. Plus no local multilayer.
>>341788232
>enough to play the majority of shit on steam
That demographic doesn't want to play old or indie games.
They also want to play with their friends online.
>>341788515
>xbox exclusives
what exclusives? literally every game shown at the microsft conference is on PC with the exception of FFXV which is on PS4.
>>341788880
Because most people treat their PC as a workstation.
PC is for work, console is for couch gaming.
That's just how it is in most people's heads.
>>341789003
Yeah, worst development in gaming. I dont own any new console pretty much for that reason.
>>341789052
Because sonycucks hate the idea of a gaming pc as much as they hate the xbox. So they won't ever get those games at all
Meaning never ever.
>>341788698
>post a very silly and bait level claim that goes against reality
>why don't people take me seriously? you're all assblasted defending your personal rigs!
>>341787818
Oh, you haven't heard the 180 have you yet?
http://www.videogamer.com/news/sony_hopes_playstation_neos_better_graphics_will_stop_ps4_users_jumping_to_pc.html
2013: We're not going to compete with PC we're going to be developers best friends and let them release on PC
2016: We're making a new PS4 because we're scared of PC and people buying their multiplats on PC. PC is now our enemy. PLEASE DON'T LEAVE US FOR PC. WE HAVE EXCLUSIVES, WE SWEAR.
>>341789052
>is on PC
I'm not getting win 10 just to play forza horizon. fuck that.
Yall complain about exclusives on consoles but are ok with it being locked to an OS?
>>341789052
Replied to the wrong post?
>>341789040
If that were true, exclusive games would still sell more. But they don't. There's just not enough sales of exclusive games to account for all the console sales.
>>341789312
Yes meant for >>341787981
>>341789257
>I'm not getting win 10 just to play forza horizon. fuck that.
And you think people are getting a scorpio just to play Forza horizion when Win10 is free? Yeah good luck with that.
>Yall
Confirmed retard.
>>341789257
Sonycucks genuinely want to stay in their own Hardware DRM walled garden because Sony's reversing policy on letting exclusives go to PC.
Remember when "Exclusives are bad for the industry"? How fucking quick Neogaf 180'd on that and claiming how amazing exclusives are is hilarious.
>>341789257
What's wrong with Windows 10?
>inb4 spying
That was back ported to older windows now. You're not safe from Microsoft if you use Windows at all.
>>341788481
> most people own a macbook
> posted from my gated community
>>341789218
I don't think you understand what the word exclusive means.
>>341787389
Why would you not have a ps4 and a pc.
I can play bloodborne and witcher 3 with mods.
Getting nx as soon as i can.
Only way i would get an xbox is if i suddenly won a whole lot of cash and i needed a console to smash.
>>341789578
I don't think you understand what not getting any of these games on your ps4 means.
>>341789050
most aaa ports can be run on medium-high with a gtx 560. what's the average gpu in an average pc? most people probably have a pc on par with consoles. and yeah people don't tend to associate pc with easy gaming, but that perception is obviously changing as Microsoft and Sony both said they are losing market share to pc. obviously people who have been console gamers are beginning to view pc as a gaming device as well. not the chads and turbo-normies, but average gamers who aren't autistic about it. I assume that makes up the majority of gamers since the middle ground is almost always the majority. I find it hard to believe 4chan autists and Chad and Heathers make up the majority of console and pc players
>>341788481
>Most people own a Macbook. If you ever went outside you'd know that.
Mac has less than 15% total marketshare for personal computers. If you even did a hint of research instead of shitposting you'd know that.
>>341788708
You're an idiot if you can't comprehend why having only 1 gaming platform would be a bad thing. I'll let you figure out why. Put that brain to work.
>>341789246
>for a segment of the market that feels that this is important
How large do you honestly think that segment is, out of 40 million users?
>We're making a new PS4 because we're scared of PC and people buying their multiplats on PC
I think that's a great exaggeration.
>>341789652
>Why would you not have a ps4 and a pc.
Why have a PS4? Theres no games. Multiplats are better on PC. Pointless Station Poor.
PC + Nintendo is the only combo I've needed this generation and it's going to stay the same since Sony showed no games at E3.
>>341789439
>getting a scorpio just to play Forza horizion
I already have xbone. why get a scorpio?
why get win 10?
why get any of this shit?
>>341789463
so many games and programs are incompatible still. aside from the spying, the incompatibility is unacceptable.
>That was back ported to older windows now
lol ok.
>>341789719
"not getting any of these games on your ps4" is not what the word exclusive means. Thanks for confirming you don't know what you're talking about.
>>341788232
Not in this day and age they don't, most have tablets or at best a laptop, that will not play games well at all. I know several families that do not own a dedicated computer anymore.
>mfw looking at pc white knights going apeshit
Do people not realise that sitting on a couch is more comfortable than sitting at a desk and that a controller is more comfortable to use than a mouse and keyboard? Then add the fact with a console, use the 360/PS3 for example for 8 years fuck even count post 2013 when the new generation came out can play every game that comes out for them with no problem, it takes no effort or planning it's so stress free, not everybody needs to sperg out to an fps counter or have the best possible graphics available majority of people don't give a fuck as long as it looks presentable.
>>341789246
>people unironically want to have to buy multiple dvd players to watch all their movies
people who support consoles and exclusivity are truly the ultimate capitalist cucks.
>>341789889
>I already have xbone.
That explains everything. You're trying to rationalize your obsolete dead console.
>>341785290
I think it's time to stop seeing MS game business as the Xbox and begin considering MS platform for games as Windows 10. It's very possible that Windows 10 is going to get every game that would be released on any Xbox console from now on. Xbone and Scorpio would then be just part of the whole Windows 10 business as something like Steam machines for people who don't want to bother building a PC.
>>341789791
>what's the average gpu in an average pc?
An integrated one. The average PC doesn't have a dedicated GPU.
>>341789861
>or a segment of the market that feels that this is important
How large do you honestly think that segment is, out of 40 million users?
large enough for Sony to spend millions developing an updated console to compete with pc and admit as much. so probably a lot. at least enough for their investors to take notice
>>341789994
It because pc gamers are faggots who partake in a never ending pissing contest, pure cancer
>>341789889
>Hurr durr Microsoft would NEVER do such a thing
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2978239/windows/microsoft-slips-user-tracking-tools-into-windows-7-8-amidst-windows-10-privacy-storm.html
Kill yourself retard.
>>341789994
>Do people not realise that sitting on a couch is more comfortable than sitting at a desk
How many times are you going to repeat this before you realize you're making an ass out of yourself? The "comfy" argument hasn't been valid since HDMI became standard.
Why do people keep assuming that everyone who buys a console has a fucking gaming pc?
If that were the case, multiplat games would sell more on pc than consoles.
>>341790028
You support bad capitalist practices everyday you fucking hypocrite just by buying shit you need. We all do, that's just how it is.
>>341789861
>How large do you honestly think that segment is, out of 40 million users?
A significant amount since PC Gaming is the fastest growing sector in gaming and console growth has completely dropped off despite the PS4.
>I think that's a great exaggeration.
And yet completely true. Why would they make a new PS4 if PC wasn't dominating. They want the PC market, or else everyone will ignore consoles and their business is finished.
>>341790146
The average PC isn't used for games.
The Scorpio is designed for a very specific demographic.
People who want the power of a PC without actually playing on PC. You'd be amazed at how many people out there detest the thought of playing on PC so much that they'd prefer an overpriced jacked up console instead.
Scorpio isn't designed for most people, it's for xbots who are going to get mad when the PC version of their exclusive looks much better.
>>341789994
Are you telling me you are so poor you don't use your PC from your couch?
Again? Again
People prefer the console experience. Both Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Neo will be very successful.
You just have to deal with it.
>>341790309
who hell thinks that? not Microsoft Sony or the people on this board
>>341790369
>You'd be amazed at how many people out there detest the thought of playing on PC so much that they'd prefer an overpriced jacked up console instead.
This perfectly explains Sonyggers
>>341790050
and PS4, and PC with a GTX 980 ti , and Wii U and double of last gens consoles.
I can buy whatever the fuck I want. Though with xbone I get free games through bing points. and I don't have to swap out hard drives because I ran out of space on it.
PS4 is a better console but xbone lets you have more accessibility. PC is best though, obviously, but they're fucking up if they expect people to upgrade their OS for a few games.
dude, do whatever you want
if you don't want Scorpio, then don't buy one. if you do, then do
>>341790259
>implying I don't pc game
It's nowhere near as comfortable as playing a console, sure you can plug it up to your TV but you still need to use a mouse and keyboard which is ten times more awkward than a controller.
>>341790408
whos arguing. Sony and m$ are worried about shrinking market share, that's all. Sony is trying to fight it while Microsoft looks like they're just going to slowly transition to focusing on windows 10 since the install base is enormous
>>341790236
>updating windows 7
lol
>>341790167
>spend millions developing an updated console
They don't use custom parts, there's no R&D involved except for a redesign of the casing.
What I think the real reason for the update is, is to keep sales going by having people buy a whole new system.
>>341790426
I would assume everyone who says the xbone is now useless. Why would a console user give a fuck if the game is on pc as well?
>>341789994
He says in a thread where insecure console white knights are going apeshit
>Then add the fact with a console, use the 360/PS3 for example for 8 years
This console generation isn't going to last even half of that. All 3 of the major companies are already rolling out new consoles next year.
>not everybody needs to sperg out to an fps counter or have the best possible graphics available majority of people don't give a fuck as long as it looks presentable.
Then nobody is going to give a fuck about the Neo and Scorpio
>>341790641
>windows 10 ... base is enormous
is it?
I'll buy it. Been collection console hardware for years now, I don't see why I'd stop here.
>>341790641
Why would MS be worried both Xbox and Win10 are their platform
Some people prefer console gaming and some PC gaming
>>341785290
4K blu rays and backwards compatibility with 360 games
>>341787047
so, just like my gaming PC?
neo and scorpio will flop along with vr.
>>341785290
Are you surprised?
For years the industry has been working hard to erode and remove any and all of the defining positive characteristics that used to set apart consoles from PCs.
Remember the time when the notion that PCs were complex and maintenance-heavy, but flexible, and that consoles were no-worries-no-trouble, pop-in-press-on-and-play simplicity was a generally accepted truth - and everybody was content with this distinction? (Well since most people here are underaged millennial shits nowadays, you probably don't remember).
Remember when console owners turned their noses at PC users because they had to worry about patches, drivers, disk space, etc? When it was industry standard that (respectable) console games were thoroughly tested and nearly bug-free on release, since cartridges couldn't be patched?
How's that looking for consoles nowadays, eh?
The Scorpio's just the next logical step in this development: introducing the hardware race with all its associated costs for the performance-oriented consumer to the console market, erasing that long-held truth that a console generation is a comparatively uniform hardware environment with relatively homogeneous performance.
Instead, they want to force you console owners into that stupid and potentially expensive PC hardware upgrade cycle while keeping you caught in the limitations and constraints of the console market.
So, in other words, they're taking away your anti-PC argument of "Well at least with consoles I don't have to update my hardware every few months".
>>341790593
>It's nowhere near as comfortable as playing a console
There's nothing uncomfortarble about it. It's a box hooked up to a television. You make using mouse and keyboard sound like its a chore when controllers can already be used to launch games, hell I use the trackpad on my DS4 to move the cursor around
Your head couldn't be further up your own ass right now.
>>341791043
won't the slim do this?
scorpio is mainly for VR.
>>341790363
>Why would they make a new PS4 if PC wasn't dominating
Having a considerable percentage of your existing userbase buy another system sounds pretty damn sweet.
It's cheap to do and yields potentially huge profits.
Apple doesn't put out another iPhone because they feel the need to compete with new Android devices.
>>341790408
>the console experience
Just like the cinematic experience meme.
Protip: Shit like day 1 patches, mandatory installs and crash to the dashboard are the anti-thesis of the "console excperience"
>>341785290
>best way to go are closed systems that are lucky to get one good game once in a while
We don't even know what the NX is about. It will probably be a massive flop.
>>341791075
yup. soon I won't even bother with gaming if it gets like that.
>>341791054
Except entirely convenient for normal users.
>>341789994
>Somehow plugging a console into an TV with an HDMI cable is wildly different from plugging a computer into a TV with an HDMI cable.
>I don't understand what USB or USB controller adapters are.
People like you are why /v/ automatically dismisses console players as retards.
>>341790593
why are people arguing about the merits of console and pc gaming? the fact is console gamers are migrating to some degree to pc, and the console companies are rushing to put out 4k machines to compete with what pc is offering them.
>>341790196
>It because pc gamers are faggots who partake in a never ending pissing contest, pure cancer
Pot calling the kettle a nigger.
>>341790904
When you're forced updating I would be surprised of the opposite
>There's Cuphead, that's on Windows 10.
>Uh-huh.
>There's Gears of War 4, that's on Windows 10 too. You've got Forza Horizon 3.
>Mm-hmm.
>That's on Windows 10. Sea of Thieves, Halo Wars 2... Matter of fact, they're all on Windows 10.
>>341790676
of course there's r&d. they're fitting more power in a smaller space for the same price. they either bought that tech or researched themselves but it wasn't just some pocket change over a weekend
>>341791347
Not that guy, but why would I put another hole in my hole, install HDMI and USB face plates, and then deal with either trying to use a keyboard and mouse on a couch, or using a controller in games that are not made for it while at the same time rendering multiplayer relatively useless.
Or the alternative, unplug all of my shit and move my computer back and forth every time I want to play a game.
You are fucking ignorant to the real world and should head back to /r/pcmasterrace
>>341785290
Why is everybody releasing new platforms so early? If folks already own a ps4 or bone and the same games are still coming to them then what's the point? Why pay another 4 or $500 for a slightly upgraded playform?
>>341790196
Who are the faggots that antagonize half of /v/ with key phrases like "WE WON" and "NEVER EVER" again?
Yeah I'm pretty sure I know what fan base should definitely get axed for some improvement to take place.
>>341791690
>forced updating
I guess the majority didn't learn how to stop that from happening.
>>341791348
Because console fanboys want to treat PC gaming as if it's dead and irrelavent when both Sony and Microsoft are going out of their way to court PC gamers with their console upgrades. Andrew House even admitted so himself.
>>341791704
And that's supposed to be bad? They're giving you the option to chose between console or PC.
>>341791745
>You are fucking ignorant
>>341786158
xboners btfo
>Considered buying a PS4 since price is dropping
>They come up witht his shit and I have to play the future games in JUST mode apparently if I don't spend more money
That's it, I reall wanted to play KH3, FF XV , the Gravity Rush and some more, but I guess I will give up and focus on other games
>>341791802
because companies are banking on the morons who upgrade their iphones or gpus every other year.
they think they can create the same market.
this will fail
>>341791745
I'm sitting in my apartment right right now with my pc hooked up to my 50 inch 4k tv. when I need to do work I switch the hdmi cable to the monitor next to it. incredibly easy and convenient and I'm not even mustard. I use my ps4 for exclusives but prefer multiplats for the 4k and better visuals. I'm sure I'm in the minority but people like me do exist and it's definitely feels like a superior setup
I don't ever. .EVER want to here another pc chicken bitch, moan and cry about how xxxx game runs like shit or won't even start.
But that won't happen because there will be another 2000 plus threads about that very thing on Steam TOMORROW. ..the same as today and every other day even.
Checkmate pc chickens, you lose this one.
>>341791945
>Who are the faggots that antagonize half of /v/ with key phrases like "WE WON" and "NEVER EVER" again?
Shitposting fanboys of literally every system?
>>341792354
Console gaming is pure shit and it gets worse if you consider you have to pay just to play online.
Literally paying to be fucked in the ass. lmao
>>341792592
Thank god I'm not this anal ravanged over PC gaming
>>341792106
Good for me, bad for XBox sales.
>>341791802
Sony stated that it was to prevent hardcore gamers from migrating to pc. that's apparently happening with the rise of 4k
>>341785290
People seem to be having a hard time realizing that Microsoft is getting out of the """"console"""" market.
Their vision for the XBOX is clearly along the same lines as a Steam Machine. You want Zelda? Buy an NX. Sony exclusives? Buy a PS4. You want to play Microsoft exclusives? You build a PC or buy a Bone.
A lot of us have a nice PC we built ourselves so we take for granted that a lot of people don't want to mess with all that, or are too intimidated to jump in. Those people buy a Bone. The rest of us play Dead Rising on our PC. I'm not saying that strategy is right or wrong, but its the direction they are going/went. To Microsoft the Xbox One/Scorpio/PC with Win10 Store are all one in the same.
>>341792608
I don't care about online, I only play Single player games anyway
And I would play anything on PC, but as long as exclusives exist and most of what I want to play is on consoles (Because I've got a PC and I struggle to find something I'd like to buy on it very month: in the last three I only have bought the DanganRonpa games and TW3), I have to buy them to have fun
>>341787932
>using PS4 as an example
WHAT exclusives could they buy from PS4 other than Bloodborne anyway?
Infamous?
>>341792718
I doubt this will put a dent on the Xbox sales at all. Plus, unifying both platforms brings the advantage of a bigger player base on both systems.
Maybe because I, and many others, don't want to play on PC?
OP is a literal faggot.
>>341792927
yeah you're addicted to games and letting yourself be cucked to death by giant companies. vote with your wallet and just rent exclusives instead of supporting cancerous practices by buying them
>>341791745
how can one man be so completely and utterly wrong about everything?
i'd recommend suicide but judging by the pathetic contents of your post you would fuck that up too
>>341793103
You can't rent shit here
But I usually buy them used so that my vote doesn't count
>>341793072
why? you hate mods, dedicated servers, free online and better graphics and an identical experience besides that? why wouldn't you want that?
>>341785290
It's going to be VR ready (one of the development target standards), and cheaper than the equivalent PC.
>>341789246
Consoles are basically custom PCs at this point. Sony just wants to make sure that you keep buying its PC instead of making the jump to free online and an open platform.
>>341793251
Mods are shit
Some people don't care about online
The experience isn't the same when all you have is RTS, FPS, shitty indies and AAA cinematic games
So what's this beast going to have in it? A scaled back Vega?
http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-10-gpu-4096-stream-processors/
>>341793072
>own a PS4, PC, WII U, and 3DS
>mfw people actually follow Xbox religiously and miss out on games that the others have
>mfw seeing threads about people being happy about bad games and companies because muh brand loyalty
>>341793178
Prove me wrong. Not everyone lives at home or in a 1 bedroom apartment where your home theater is in the same room as your computer.
>>341788234
>the 64 bit pointer is going to get stuck, the screen will go blue, the download ram won't work, the psu starts leaking, the cpu can't count
nice home built pc kid
>>341793513
A scaled back 490 most likely
We still don't know if the 490 is vega or not
>>341793770
Not an argument
>>341793251
>Mods
Which Xbox One already has, albeit only Fallout 4 for now. Skyrim Remastered and Farming Simulator will have it. Of course, not many gives 2 shits about Farming Simulator but it still paves a way for mod support for alot of games.
>Dedicated Servers
If it works, it's fine by me.
>Free Online
+1 for you but even then I can get a 12month membership somewhere for literally $20. $20, a year, which is nothing if you have a job.
>Better Graphics
Unless the graphics goes down to 480p, I couldn't care less about graphics. As long as it works and it's fun, I don't care.
I got lots of real-life friends on Xbox that I play with. I don't have a PC that's even capable of running Dark Souls 3 with optimal results, and I am sure as hell not going to go out and spend $500 on a PC that will inevitably be outdated in literally a year, whereas the Xbox can last an entire generation.
>>341793770
>Prove me wrong
The calling card of a shitposting console memer. Neck yourself cunt.
>>341789851
Because Sony makes good games? Tahts my best reason
>>341793973
>I can get a 12month membership somewhere for literally $20. $20, a year,
cite sources, or stop talking out of your console peasantry underage mommy wont let me use her credit card asshole
>>341793973
>>Mods
>Which Xbox One already has, albeit only Fallout 4 for now.
lmao
>>341791220
>Apple doesn't put out another iPhone because they feel the need to compete with new Android devices.
The last iPhone was rushed out as Samsung was gaining on their market which led to the bending issue. Only delusional applefags believe there is no competition.
So much like Sonyfags, really.
stop with the pc memes
from what I've seen you guys don't play and or enjoy video games
>>341788219
It's for power efficiency
>>341794123
There is none on sale that low now.
>>341794180
You mad consoles aren't the only one with mod support now?
>>341793973
>I can get a 12month membership somewhere for literally $20. $20, a year, which is nothing if you have a job.
The lengths that console faggots go to rationalize paying for online is mindboggling. You're beyond pathetic.
>whereas the Xbox can last an entire generation.
>$500 on a PC that will inevitably be outdated in literally a year
Commit sudoku my man
>>341793914
But it is. The entire 'argument' put forward was connecting your computer to your tv was such a trivial task no one should have a console. I simply said that person was ignorant to the real world and how many people do not have their shit in the same room.
You can come up with a real response any time.
>>341794341
too bad PC will never ever get JSRF
>>341794341
>consoles aren't the only one with mod support
Read that again dumbfuck. You can't even shitpost correctly.
>>341794371
How is that any different from upgrading your PC and spending hundreds a year? If anything, PC wastes more money than consoles does. Fuck off.
>>341794123
Xbox live costs no more than $30-35 a year. It is easy to find 12 month cards for that price at least once a month.
However, the $20 is a little far fetched. I have NEVER seen a card go for that low.
$30 is the only price people should be paying
>>341794330
How much do you see living in a ghetto anyway?
>>341794371
>The lengths that console faggots go to rationalize paying for online is mindboggling. You're beyond pathetic.
Think of it as a I don't want to play with shitters and subhumans tax also a good/fair experience in online competitive games
>>341794563
>How is paying for online any different than upgrading your PC and spending hundreds a year?
>If anything, PC wastes more money than consoles does.
Console owners are literally this retarded
>>341794691
>Think of it as a I don't want to play with shitters and subhumans tax
>plays on Xbox Live
TOP KEK
>>341794569
If anything, the lowest I actually seen it go down to is $25. Promo codes or liking the sellers Facebook page for an extra percentage is the way to go in most cases.
>>341794569
>>341794341
>none are on sale right now
>out of internet membership time
>none
>on
>sale
>right
>now
fuck, that's convenient.
i'm mostly sony, just for the exclusives and imported japanese games. Its funny how now its not even a CoD machine when Sony has as much people playing cod as the xbox. Litearly every game ive wanted to play on PC minecraft, hearthstone cs go ive used my shity non gaming PC to play. Everything else I just plug in and play with sony. Guess theres no reason to even buy a bone now.
>>341794826
hah
You know nothing. Stay ignorant PC anon.
>>341794569
Xbox live costs $60/year, you can find deals on 12 month cards for $40-$35 at the lowest
Not only were the pirces far fetched, but it was disingenous as fuck to defend online paywalls by lying about the price.
>>341794563
Why would we need to buy better hardware when the miltiplats stay at the same graphic fidelity?
>>341794704
>Look mom, I can't argue so I just insult people!
>>341794851
Yes it is.
>>341788708
>that's like saying only having one dvd player on the market would affect the quality of films.
you should have made a food analogy, it would have been definitely less imbarassing than this
>>341785290
Let's continue this argument: if the only benefit a console offers is keeping games off of other platforms, and it cannot be a superior product on its own merits, would the industry not benefit entirely from them dying out?
>>341794859
>Plug in
>Wait for new psn update
>Put disk in
>Wait for disk to install
>Wait for patch
>Play
>>341794118
>Sony
>games
there's that meme again
>>341795216
No because of reason you're too stupid to understand and I'm not going to explain.
>>341794951
You should never pay more than $30-35 for a 12 month card. It is very easy to find them at that price. If anything you wait for black friday and buy 1 or 2 for $30 a pop.
>>341785290
>I can literally build a PC that shits on it in terms of graphical quality.
Well then, go ahead. It's not like M$ isn't going to get your money anyway.
>>341795237
Who funds pc game devolpment oh right nobody
>>341795216
If that were the case, why do multiplat games sell more on consoles than pc?
>>341794454
>But it is.
Nope.
The entire 'argument' put forward was connecting your computer to your tv was too uncomfortable and akward to do. An argument which has no basis in fact or reality. You're simply a retarded console white knight spewing the same fallicious memes about "HDMI and USB face plates" and irrelavent nonsense about living spaces, you're completely ignorant about PCs and yet you except people to take you seriously and parse through your retardation.
You can go ahead and kill yourself any time.
>>341795320
>I don't have an argument so I'll just call you stupid and pretend like I won
>>341795484
Because games only on XbOne and PS4 count as multiplats
>>341795431
Don't be a retard. Devs make exclusives when they're paid to, otherwise they try to release on as many platforms as possible for obvious reasons. You want to be exposed to as large of an install base as possible.
>>341795510
Ah okay I get you on that. But I did mention that before as well. Using a keyboard/mouse on a couch is a shitty experience even with some ungodly piece of wood or tv dinner tray or whatever.
The alternative is to use a controller, which is still shitty because the game isnt going to have aim assist (a topic for another argument), and then multiplayer is useless because there are no controller only servers.
That is reality.
>>341795216
Because sony funds game debs who push the medium forward. If pcs were all that existed then we'd be playing pong instead of death stranding or last guardian.
>>341795484
>>341790309
Steamspy numbers reveal most major releases like Witcher 3, MGSV, SFV, and CoD sell comparably on PC as they do on console.
Just give it up, senpai.
>>341795815
Good thing Xbox One is getting kb+m support, eh?
>>341795770
Exclusives usually better than multiplats or PC games because of focus
>>341795974
But that doesn't change the facts about using it.
>>341790714
The xbone is useless to anyone with a brain. If you're too ignorant and poor to play on PC you would buy a PS4 as your console since it has actual exclusives that aren't coming to either of the 2 other platforms.
>>341795974
So they got every dev to implement that into every console game too?
>>341795997
>>341795770
Also, it's a lot easier when you know what specs the game will be played on
Having to deal with any kind of combination leads to a lot of problems
>>341785290
>You buy a console for exclusives
If you do this, you are an active cancer cell.
>>341796103
Literal opinions, good to know that is where tools like yourself will always fall back on.
Maybe you should go back to where you came from where people will remain unaware that others enjoy games different than yourself
>>341785290
The point of the Scorpio isn't to buy it.
Its so that shitty console hardware won't hold optimization back and so that PC can get actual ports this time around.
>>341796273
>Literal opinions, good to know that is where tools like yourself will always fall back on.
Oh the ironing
>>341795815
>>341794454
>>341793770
>>341791745
>>341789994
>>341790593
>I can literally build a PC that shits on it in terms of graphical quality.
some people prefer consoles to PC
>You buy a console for exclusives
or because you prefer consoles to PC??
Why get any console? There isn't a single exclusive on the PS4 that you can't experience on the PC by opening up Youtube.
>>341796443
>some people prefer consoles to PC
Then buy a PS4.
Without exclusives consoles have little appeal unless you're functionally braindead
>>341796436
But it is. You resorted to 'my choice of playing game is better than yours'.
It's cute really, and you are 4/6 for quoting me.
I can see the appeal, sometimes messing with pc bullshit is a pain.
I can see how it ends now
>Sonyfags tell people to build a PC
>Start crying when people want to use those PC's to play PS4 games at better framerates and resolutions than on Sony's limited and outdated console
>Sonyfags enter a new era of screaming "DELETE THIS" as consoles become obsolete, all because they wanted one up on the xfags
Poetry
>>341796560
PS4 has no games though
Do we know if games already out will be enhanced when Scorpio and Neo kick in?
>>341795815
"Using a keyboard/mouse on a couch is a shitty experience" is not reality.
"multiplayer is useless because there are no controller only servers." is not reality.
Almost every modern shooter has aim assist when plugging in a console and plenty of games have controller only servers including GTA and CS.
This is why people dismiss you as retarded. There's nothing shitty about using a mouse and keyboard, or using a controller on PC. You're grasping at straws for your shit non-argument.
>>341796560
>functionally braindead
You're arguing with actual autistic people who think "muh comfy" is an argument. Take a wild fucking guess.
>>341796649
It has more games than the Xbone
PS4 + PC is the better combo
PS4 only makes more sense if you're mentally crippled and can't handle PC
There's no reason to buy an Xbone outside of brand loyalty.
>>341785290
>what's the point of getting a fucking xboneS if Scorpio is comming?
that's a more suitable question
>>341796710
when plugging in a *controller
>>341796927
What if I'm rich?
>>341796927
PS4 has two game at the moment
And if I counted correctly it will have 6 next year, including Persona 5, which I wouldn't since most have a PS3 and it's there too
>>341785290
>im so fucking retarded spoon feed me guys
NO
>>341796927
>Nintendo + PC is the better combo
Fixed
PS4 has no games and worse multiplat performance than PC. Pointless console for retards.
>>341796649
devs make games for ps4 users, not pcucks piratefags, the hardware can't be obsolete when there's millions of people using it
What's he thinking?
>>341785290
PC tier visuals for people who don't want a PC , was it that hard to figure out ?
>>341797165
The Wii U only has kids games.
>>341797223
He misses Iwata.
>>341797279
That's completely retarded.
Just rub two brain cells together and get a PC if you want graphics. It's not hard.
>i can get it on pc
Who even upgrades to windows 10
>>341796748
but it is an argument lmao??
the only autistic ones here are the people so confused and assblasted that people prefer one gaming device over the other.
>>341797171
>the hardware can't be obsolete
Keep telling yourself that when Vanilla PS4 games are stuck at 18fps while people on the NEO will be playing non-gimped versions of those games.
>>341791745
You do know theres a thing called an HDMI splitter, right? And even then you do know you can have your PC display on multiple screens at the same time, right?
You don't actually have to lug around your desktop like a moran.
>>341797475
>"muh comfy"
>but it is an argument lmao?? no u!
Congrats on proving him right.
The point is not playing games at 15 fps.
>>341797425
Most people who don't fall for dumb memes.
>>341785290
>Seriously why would get a fucking Scorpio when every game it has will be on PC?
Because every game is has will NOT be on PC. Did you even WATCH the fucking conference, you dribbling retard?
>>341797310
Better than movies
Also, nothing wrong with kids games: I still play the games I played as a child, still find them fun
You do too since all you get is remasters
>>341797475
Some people prefer dirty desks to organized desks too.
>>341797753
Did you?
>>341797425
A better question is who even upgrades to the Scorpio? Why even buy one to begin with?
>>341797837
I'd take remasters of PS2 games over holding a tea tray in my hands.
>>341797592
no problem amigo!
back to my comfy xbone :)
>>341797037
You would spend that money on buying games or getting a better PC.
No matter how much you spend the money will be wasted on an Xbone
>>341797425
Partition, faggot.
