APOLOGIZE
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APOLOGIZE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJOB1XRsqC8
Apart from shitty characters and writing, this game has the best gameplay in all of series. prove me wrong.
>>341783573
FUCK YOU
>>341784491
NOO FUCK YOUUUU
>>341784310
you're wrong
>>341784310
>color coded enemies that can't be hurt except for one specific weapon
>half the game is braindead linear platforming shit with no challenge to it
>guns are worthless
>best gameplay
>>341784310
>Color coded enemies only affected by devil or angel weapons
>Constant cinematics in boss fights
>SSS ranking levels just from 100% collection
No rebuttal is necessary.
>>341785578
>half the game is braindead linear platforming
>gun are worthless
isnt this the same case as previous game?
>>341783573
People like the original campy Dante. You can't just remake a series without the cheese and go all serious on it. And then try to outright replace him with a new series?
it's all about the hair tho
>>341785578
Can it really be considered colour coded when there's only 2 colours?
>>341786683
dmc4 dante is the best dante.
>>341786852
Why are you getting into semantics? It locks your entire moveset for that creature.
>>341787021
Nah, everything else is just imitation.
>>341785836
>>Constant cinematics in boss fights
You know, I'd be able to forgive this and just enjoy the game as an above-than-average western slasher, but this shit just drives my nuts up the wall. Why don't western devs understand that GAMEPLAY should be about PLAYING the GAMEand losing it, as you just did?
>>341783573
IT'S TO LAAAAAAAATE
I rented this from blockbuster when it came out. I had mono at the time. Beat the game several times on every difficulty in my haze. Never touched it since, but had a good time. The blockbuster closed while I had the game, still have it.
>>341784310
DMC1 exists tho
Have you guys seen Matthewmatosis' commentary on DMC?
It reminded my why I loved the series and what made the first game so great.
Then it reminded me of DmC and how it got everything wrong
>>341784310
Things that are wrong with DmC gameplay:
1. Button layout -> moveset selection.
Circle is a dedicated high time launcher button on the ground and helmbreaker in the air. This is a waste of face button and severely limit variety of moves one could pull. Compare DMC4 Dante Rebellion movesets with DmC Donte Rebellion moveset. This is due to people complaining about not being able to pull of directional command moves. What you ends up with is a watered down gameplay. Same problem with TWO, fucking TWO dedicated evade buttons. Apparently dodgeroll in original DMC is too hard to pull
2. Repetition on moveset variety
Rebellion, Osiris and Arbiter are essentially the same weapon with slightly alternating speed/damage output. They all have basic stinger, launcher, ground combo A, ground combo B. None of the launcher, stinger, aerial rave from these three weapons have any special property. Compare this to the pin needle explode later mechanic of Lucifer, Gilgamesh where you can Just Charge and distort every hit, and Rebellion basic moveset. All three of them are super unique and have their own techs.
3. Jump cancel does not require any timing
This one requires no explanation. In DMC you have to cancel during hit frame. In DmC it doesn't matter because you can JC without attacking, so Demon pull->JC->Demon pull->JC all the way into the ceiling is a legitimate tactic.
>>341788353
Forgot my pic, but you guys got the point. All these criticism are from gameplay DESIGN standpoint, not narrative, or even comparing the viability of each movesets.
>>341784310
>DmC has the best gameplay.
It's designed to be satisfying and fun even if you're not very good at it.
So from your point of view then sure.
>>341787919
>ps1 tier game
meh i dunno man.
>>341788932
confirmed for casual.
>>341788353
>In DMC you have to cancel during hit frame
pretty sure it had more to do with positioning than timing
>>341783573
FUCK YOU
>>341784310
also the color coded bullshit
and SSS being tied to damage
>>341788353
good point.
>>341789034
>pretty sure it had more to do with positioning than timing
It's timing first then positioning. If you mistime your JC, the animation is not gonna cancel. That's the whole point of jump CANCEL -> you cancel the recovery animation after your hit frame connects.
Positioning is more to link the next attack that you also going to cancel.
Anyway we're getting into details here, the point still stands that DmC a shit
>>341789441
>DmC a shit
Let's face it, you just couldn't grasp the controls without your precious casual lock-on button.
>And I've got a bigger dick.
Why did he mean by that ?
>>341783732
That guy talks like an autist.
>>341789607
That he'sa sexual tyrannosaurus
>>341789253
>and SSS being tied to damage
The style meter in DmC works exactly the same as in previous games. It's just broken because Donte's crowd control is way too good and attacking several enemies at once builds extreme meter.
Go and use Nevan's crazy move in DMC3 and you'll have exactly the same result. Only difference is that's pretty much every weapon in DmC.
Guys?What happened to DMC5? Is there still hope?
>>341789735
*artist
>>341789561
who needs lock on when the game is this easy?
>>341790046
And yet some people like >>341789441 still have problems with it.
>>341789870
too soon anon
>>341786301
Did you even play DMC4?
>>341789607
Bob was right this little shit is a manslut terrorist.
QUE TE JODAN!
>>341790256
>boo hoo more than 1 button is too hard to understand!
I bet you also played Monster Hunter on the 3DS for the first time and couldn't handle MHFU on the PSP.
>>341789823
>Go and use Nevan's crazy move in DMC3 and you'll have exactly the same result.
except you need to press an absurd button command.
In DmC it's literally "mash attack"
>>341789561
Lock on serves more than just locking on. It creates an axis in which you can input your directional command.
For example, with just the triangle button Nero can:
1. Start basic ground combo
2. Launcher
3. Stinger
4. Shuffle, which is the back fw special move.
Donte can only:
1. Ground combo
2. Stinger with fw fw input
This also proves the problem with fw->fw input. If your character is jammed pack with other movesets that you need a fw, fw input then fine. But back-fw input is much better and much quicker to pull. To do fw fw you need to tilt your analog stick fw, back to neutral and fw again, yielding in 3 movements total. To do back-fw you just tilt it back and then forward, which means 2 analog stick movement total, which is quicker to pull on reaction.
There's a reason why DmC:DE is still a shit. They think that we need lock on just because we can't aim for shit. Lock on serves way more purpose in DMC than to aim your attack. It allows you to create precise directional input which in turn allows the dev to jam in more movesets and hence more gameplay variety into a single character.
>>341784310
It doesn't.
That was easy.
>White-haired classic Dante supposedly retired because he's dorky and uncool
>New Dante unironically says "I'm Dante the demon killer, has a nice ring to it don't ya think?"
>>341783573
what is this apologize memé?
>>341789870
There was always hope.
People just believed in an E3 announcement when none of the hints pointed to any of that shit. Capcom's earnings reports mention a new DMC for the end of fiscal 2017, that's basically Capcom saying to investors "Oh yeah we're making more of these."
It's strong evidence more is coming, along with a bunch of other smaller shit that I can't be assed to mention.
>>341790439
It's not about more than one button, it's layout efficiency.
DMC3/4 Dante have both circle and triangle, each with fw, back, and neutral directional command. That's six moves jammed into two face buttons not counting the style, which modifies the circle button. With styles, DMC4 or modDMC3 Dante has 15 moves jammed into two face buttons. Compare this to Donte, he has 3 moves jammed into 2 face buttons because circle is a dedicated launcher and DmC player is too stupid to pull directional command moves
Tell me how this retarded layout doesn't limit gameplay
>>341786301
yes and the level design is more or the same linear braindead. infact all of dmc game have shit repetitive corridor level design that any improvement is negligible at best. altho i kinda lost my memory on gunplay probably becasue it have proper charge shot.
>>341790941
>DmC
>retarded layout
And yet it allows the player to use all of young Dante's weapons at the same time. How about that?
>>341783573
FUCK YOU
>>341787395
FUCK YOU
>>341791070
>all 4 of them
>>341791028
meant for >>341790293
>>341791267
More than DMC4.
which one is the better protagonist? Nero or Donte?
>>341791402
Each weapon in DmC also has a way more limited moveset.
In DMC4 every Dante weapon has an expanded moveset with styles, in DmC it's just the launcher/slam button with the exception of the Aquila.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPKHxbOg19s
>>341791070
See point #2 >>341788353
What's the point of changing weapon if the moveset is the same. Rebellion Osiris and Arbiter are essentially the same weapon, with similar basic moves.
To elaborate on that, even if Donte have six unique melee weapons rather than 3 they're just attacks. What if I want to royal guard block, royal release, turn into dreadnaught, trickster teleport, wall hike, wall run, Sky star, or Mustang (dash into enemy and jump on their face)
Donte literally can't do any of these. Even if I grant you the untrue notion that Donte can do six melee weapons at the same time, all the options he has are attack attack and attack.
Royal guarding crazy enemy attack is just as stylish as doing air combo cancels. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sLRJQ_vKUo
>>341791736
They are both equally obnoxious.
Nero has a cool arm and sword I guess.
>>341791736
Nero is fighting for something, much less his big-assed gf. Instantly more relatable.
>>341791736
Nero. I was expecting more "FUCK YOU" moments out of Donte but dear GOD he becomes so dull and boring later on. I was actually enjoying the shakesperean writing and they throw it away.
>>341792103
>much less his big-assed gf
Why is Kyrie so lewd
>>341791861
>What's the point of changing weapon if the moveset is the same
because of the shitty color coding
>>341791862
>>341792103
>>341792173
i believe while nero is a generic hot blooded anime protagonist, donte seem more like a very awkward mismash of "idontgiveafuck teenspirit" and 4chan dweller behaviour.
>>341792432
>tfw no coatless costumes for 4SE
Would you play a remastered DmC running on DMC4 engine?
>>341793403
Sure.
Would be a total waste to make though. Remaking all those assets for a new engine seems like work for nothing.
>>341793403
He looks awful
DmC fag got blown the fuck up once again. Thanks for starting a DMC thread though, we appreciate you're sacrifice
I wanna see Nero again pls Capcom
>>341795718
He's busy fingering Kyrie with his dragon dildo fingers
>>341783732
>entitled
>entitled
Exited the video there.
Of all of /v/'s accomplishments, I have to say the worst one is bringing the word "entitled" into common use. People use it instead of "self-entitled".
Claiming someone is an "entitled baby" is exactly like saying they are a baby that deserves something.
Self-entitled means the person in questions believes they deserve something.
Every few months a new word or two comes into popularity and is always used incorrectly and it boggles my mind how someone can use a word they don't know and just not ever look up it's meaning.
Has DmC anything like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY92XAtuMlQ
>>341797142
It's a mod. Neither DMC4 or DMC4SE have that, even more you'll get reamed because of camera and bosses don't give a fuck about offscreen attacks unless you're the dongmaster or sakaki1224
