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>You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.
Where did it all go so wrong?
>>341772863
The second they wrote that line.
There is no way to pull off "you can't even comprehend us" ancient evils without making it a cop-out or retarded.
>>341773127
That's why you should give it them no explanation in the first place.
>>341772863
The worst part is that the original ending is just as dumb and easily comprehensible as the one we got. "The galaxy is building up dark matter so we kill organics to prevent dark matter from killing organics!"
>>341772863
The second game where they killed off and brought back Shepard for no reason, removed the mako, added planet scanning, removed unlimited ammo and heat management, removed weapon and armor customization/upgrades and the plot did nothing to further the story because it was all filler to burn time until 3 came out.
I was a junior in high school and knew that 2 was hot garbage. Thank God it make me skip 3.
>>341772863
when ea took over
>people thought ME1 was well-written
>people thought ME1 was a good game
>>341773731
it was
>>341772863
When they decided to make it a straight FPS and took out as many RPG elements as they could.
>Shepard wasn't a Reaper double agent ever since their death at the beginning of two
What a fucking waste of time
>>341772863
>"You can't even comprehend us!"
>one game later
>given full, easy to grasp explanation without any real hardship or depth
>gain full control of them if desired
Probably around that point.
>>341773604
The idea was that they were killing organics who were speeding up the process so they had more time to fix it IIRC. More "killing you now to save you later."
>>341773712
Oh and I forgot the universal cool down for abilities in combat.
>>341773731
better than 2 and 3 at any rate.
>>341773127
You can, if the genre is horror
>>341772863
Mass Effect 2 is where it went wrong.
Mass Effect 3 is where it went so, so wrong.
ok here's how they could have salvaged the whole reaper storyline at the last second
get this: it's all an intergalactic con-job, the reapers were a hoax the whole time. Essentially it ends like an episode of scooby-doo.
It's pretty bad, but it's better than what we got.
>>341773127
All they had to do was never fully explain them.
It's that fucking easy. Of course hack writers can't resist the lure, and will demystify it knowing everyone will want it explained in detail, and then it's ruined forever.
Don't give people what they want when what you give them will not live up to their expectations. With something like this it's essential to continue to subvert those expectations and always leave people hungry for more.
>>341773731
ME1 was fairly standard yet decently written sci-fi with a great premise.
ME2 was a terrible plot amiss an even better setting and premise.
ME3 was standardised cliche hollywood movie crap.
>>341773731
It is a good game. Please don't try to rewrite history.
>ME3 effectively makes your choices through ME1 or ME2 "correct" or "wrong" by arbitrarily giving you a point system, where the wrong choice puts you on a straight course to a bad ending.
It's like they didn't even want choices to begin with, so I am going to say that would be when.
Why was Harbinger dropped in 3
>>341772863
Does anyone have the screencap of the 4chan post comparing humans to ants, and the reapers to a guy mowing his lawn
Would've been great if they went that route
>>341774270
>All they had to do was never fully explain them.
Then it's a cop-out.
You can't set up a mystery and then never reveal it because you can't actually imagine an incomprehensible motive.
>>341773813
>muh clunky shooting
>muh shallow, completely-vertical RPG elements
>muh samey classes
>muh lack of weapon and armor variety
>muh fish guns
>muh boring squad mates with shitty AI
>muh infinite ammo for casual babies
>muh empty planets
>muh copy-pasted bunkers on said empty planets
>muh monotonous Mako segments
>muh ANCIENT EVIL plot
>muh black/white morality system
The only things good about 1 were the skyboxes on the empty boring shit planets, and the frisbee grenades.
>>341773940
Not that I liked either of them, but 2 and 3 were at least serviceable in the shooting department(less so 3, 'cause boy did I get bored of that shit fast), as opposed to 1 being a shit RPG and shooter. Plus, I appreciated 2 being more of a random space adventure instead of some faux-space opera garbage with a dumb villain.
>>341774429
>>341773712
>brought back for no reason
maybe because he was the protagonist of the series?
>removed the mako
implying it wasnt a piece of shit boring vehicle
>added planet scanning
agreed, terrible addition.
> removed unlimited ammo and heat management
didnt make the game any better/worse
>plot did nothing to further the story because it was all filler to burn time until 3 came out
just because it doesnt advance the main plot a tonne doesnt mean it didnt flesh out the universe, characters and build up the mystery of the Reapers.
>I was a junior in high school
you're still as stupid as one it seems
>>341772863
When they took a decent enough concept and made it into Ancient Evil bullshit for no good reason
>>341774551
the mako had issues, but they could've fixed them instead of removing it altogether.
>Reapers tell you their motives are incomprehensible to your limited understand
>3 gives you a basic explanation of their motives
>WOOOOW WHY THIS MAKES NO SENSE IT'S SO STUPID
They fucking TOLD YOU you wouldn't understand it. You tried to, and WHOA FUCKING SURPRISE, YOU CAN'T. THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED.
Anyone else think
2 > 1 > 3
>>341774495
Putting the word "muh" before every single line really clarified your points and gave them an extra rhetorical edge. Great job!
>>341774551
>you're still as stupid as one it seems
the irony
>>341774551
>maybe because he was the protagonist of the series
Missing the point on that one. Killing Shepard only to resurrect him did nothing more than serve as the worst way to introduce a 2 year time skip ever and took a fat shit on the setting at the same time
Why kill the main character if absolutely nothing is going to come from it
Their problem was the inclusion of the Reapers in the first place. Mass Effect should have just been a cop story in space. But BioWare has to set their story on a huge fucking scale and they pretty much ruined the universe they created
>>341774680
Transcending human comprehension isn't exactly the same thing as being utterly retarded.
>your upbringing and and military achievement choice means jack shit
One of the most disappointing things in the series. Those two things should have had way more of an impact, especially sole survivor in 2.
>>341774491
>you can't actually imagine an incomprehensible motive.
Please re-read what you just posted.
Do you see the mistake?
>>341774684
It's the usual problem.
1 has shit gameplay but a great plot.
every sequel gets better gameplay but worse plot and setting.
and it just goes from there.
>>341774837
it shows the technology that was available to cerberus and it gave shepard an excuse to leave the alliance
>>341774953
The multiplayer saved 3 for me. It was actually really good.
>>341774417
He was campy as fuck. BioWare didn't like that most people found him funny instead of intimidating so they dropped him.
Unfortunately BioWare is incompetent as fuck, so instead of replacing him with someone scary, they added an even more retarded weeb with a sword and maximum plot armor.
I actually found 2 to be far more enjoyable than both 1 and 3.
I by all means disliked the changes to cooldowns and being unable to have conversations with people on the field, but
-More party members
-Salarian
-Better designs
-Less military crap SAV DA WURLD, more adventure mercenary shit
-Punching reporter hoe.
Overall I'd place it at the top and wish 3 had stuck to that formula. Was odd to get used to, but worked just fine after you did.
Instead we got a shooter with blue tint shoved down your threat and that OH MY GOD PTSD CHILD DREAMS gibberish all over the fucking place with a whopping katana ninja what the fuck.
>>341774684
I just think 1 > 2 > 3
I really liked 2, but ME1 is just too comfy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_JVEXDrJYg
Also I really loved making my guns overpowered as shit
>>341774495
man you sure must hate video games.
>>341774969
And why did he need to do that, again? He was a Spectre, he was already a free agent who could go anywhere and do whatever he wanted without tacit approval of any government body
>>341772863
Once they dropped the "bigger picture" plotline with the reapers trying to defend liveable space from dark space and being forced to harvest life for resources, it all went downhill from there.
>>341774680
>Motives are incredibly stupid
>YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT BRO
If I didn't understand it, it wouldn't be so fucking stupid.
>>341774680
It didn't not make sense because their reasons were incomprehensible, it didn't make sense because of the shitty writing thanks to the fact that the original writer left and that they've massively changed the script halfway-through. Azathoth cannot be comprehended by humans, but he's still understandable on a meta level, from the point of view of the audience. There's no sense of foreboding and existential dread and primal fear of the unknown coming from a fucking star kid telling you that machines and humans killing each-other is natural and that's why they destroy the universe.
1 and 2 were great games in their own right, people got pissy at 3s ending and the fact it played more like a blockbuster movie than an adventure game like the other two so they now say all are bad
>>341775364
>Nobody disliked Mass Effect 2 before Mass Effect 3 came out
Nice revisionism fuckwit
You are not Saren
>>341775364
>people got pissy at 3s ending and the fact it played more like a blockbuster movie than an adventure game like the other two so they now say all are bad
I just find it hard to go back and play through the first two, knowing what it eventually builds up to
>>341775208
Cause otherwise there was no excuse for the copious amounts of forced drama with Kaidan/Ashley/Tali when they don't trust you anymoar because you now work with those dudes you met in some sidequest or something who might be evil or shit, which obviously invalidates you saving the galaxy 9999 times.
>>341774684
I did at first
But after a while it became 1 > 2 > 3
>>341775451
not compared to the hate it gets now
it was well received unlike 3 which created a massive shitstorm with its awful ending
>>341774495
I liked the infinite ammo. The whole cooldown thing changed how a normally standard shooter played. Then they brought in clips to appeal to more dudebro CoD fans. The fact that the only weapons you need to care about ammo supply for were your heavy weapons made it pointless.
>>341774950
That's exactly what I mean. It's impossible to do so you should never approach it that way.
To put it differently, you shouldn't write a character with an "incomprehensible motive" because it sounds cool and then backtrack because it's impossible to do in a fulfilling way. Just don't write it like that in the first place.
>>341775680
>
To put it differently, you shouldn't write a character with an "incomprehensible motive" because it sounds cool and then backtrack because it's impossible to do in a fulfilling way.
Blame the fact that the writers changed.
>>341775456
Holy shit that could actually be awesome if they made the main character indoctrinated and you thought you were the good guy, but you slowly realize that you're not and then in the final game you have to have to become un-indoctrinated and undo all that you did.
>>341775252
Shut the fuck up. I'm so tired of being disrespected on this goddamn website. All I wanted to do was post my opinion. MY OPINION. But no, you little bastards think it's "hilarious" to mock those with good opinions. My opinion. while not absolute, is definitely worth the respect to formulate an ACTUAL FUCKING RESPONSE AND NOT JUST A SHORT MEME OF A REPLY. I've been on this site for 4 years: 4 YEARS and I have never felt this wronged. It boils me up that I could spend so much time thinking and putting effort into things while you shits sit around (probably jerking off to Gardevoir or whatever furbait you like) and make fun of the intellectuals of this world. I've bored you? Good for fucking you. Literally no one cares that your little brain is to underdeveloped and rotted to comprehend my idea...MY GREAT GREAT IDEA. I could sit here all day whining, but I won't. I'm NOT a whiner. I'm a realist and an intellectual. I know when to call it quits and to leave the babybrains to themselves. I'm done with this goddamn site and you goddamn immature children. I have lived my life up until this point having to deal with memesters and idiots like you. I know how you work. I know that you all think you're
"epik trolls" but you're not. You think you baited me? NAH. I've never taken any bait. This is my 100% real opinion divorced from anger. I'm calm, I'm serene. I LAUGH when people imply I'm intellectually low enough to take bait. I always choose to reply just to spite you. I won. I've always won. Losing is not in my skillset. So you're probably gonna reply "lol epik trolled" or "u mad bro" but once you've done that you've shown me I've won. I've tricked the trickster and conquered memery. I live everyday growing stronger to fight you plebs and low level trolls who are probably 11 (baby, you gotta be 18 to use 4chan). But whatever, I digress. It's just fucking annoying that I'm never taken serious on this site, goddamn.
>>341774684
Pretty much. 1 was great for the first play through but a total slog after that if you do any decent amount of side quests.
>>341775802
The original motive was no better
The whole thing was fundamentally flawed. If they were dead set on keeping the Reapers as the antagonists, they should have just refused to try and explain or justify their actions
>>341775680
It's very doable. Look at Lovecrafts work.
>>341775451
I hated Mass Effect 2's story big time, even more than 3's if you ignore the choose your color ending. I also hated the music. However, I thought it had the best character interactions and character arcs of the series. I even liked the dlc characters, especially Zaeed.
>>341775914
We already got Spec Ops:The Line trying to pull that off and honestly it was enough.
>>341775680
>You must answer every question to write a compelling story.
I bet you're the kind of person who got upset over the open ending of Inception.
>>341775967
I agree with you, but not for ME's space opera genre.
>>341776040
I have to agree with you on most points there.
>I also hated the music.
In general it was bad, but some tracks stood out. It's not totally awful like ME3.
>>341775920
into the pasta it goes.
>>341774853
I keep saying that what we needed was a Shepard and Garrus buddycop game where they're csec agents dealing with an influx of new races to the citadel and all the problems that entails.
Missed opportunities.
>>341775802
Nah, that's not the reason. I mean it is partially, but ME's writers never had a full plotline in place. That's why ME2 was so off even though they still had most of their original team.
Dark matter plot itself was only imagined during ME2's development.
>>341776040
I liked ME2 as an "action" game, the same way Indiana Jones is an action movie. It's not exactly deep, but it's colorful, has a memorable cast, memorable action and in general is very well put together in its' theme and execution.
>>341776040
>giant weeaboo bait DLC screaming high alert for a crash and burn of cringe
>turns out to be one of the most likeable party members you can get and actually incites little to no cringe at all
If anything that was unexpected.
>>341775128
Replaying the trilogy and I just transitionned to ME2 after finishing the first one, still getting used to not having my overpowered spectre assault rifle or just having plain clear stats on guns...
>>341776353
I can fix that
Who did you sacrifice from your crew over the the three games?
>>341776576
At least you are chinesse so we can just blame that or some shit but let me just continue ignoring your existence, please. You ruined a whole game as it is.
>>341776576
>so asian his mask has slanty eyes
>>341776213
Femshep is a stupid bitch.
>>341776554
They were trying to trim the ball hair that was the weapon system but ended up castrating it. Even though all the weapons from each category looked the same in ME1, it was so much more satisfying to upgrade than just finding the one weapon you wanted from ME2 and sticking with it.
>>341776576
>Slanted eye visors
Kai's entire design is a fucking disaster. What were they thinking?
>>341774160
>shepard pulls a mask off of the retarded AI starchild thing
>it was a keeper
>It was the keepers the entire time
>"and I would have gotten away with it too! if it weren't for you meddling humans!"
10/10
>>341776353
She was pretty fucking boring.
>>341776714Wrex.And all other krogans. They are scum and must be wiped out.
Also shot Kaidan in the face when availble but who didn't.
>>341776917
This. If you didn't kill the Krogans and kill Kaidan, you fucked up.
>>341776907
I liked her. She had a normal personality, viably likeable storyline and while the "master theef" shit was over the top as anything Bioware, her introductory quest was actually pretty fun for what it could have been.
Besides, her dialogues of her getting wet over spying Jacob over the camera while he worksout are pretty hilarious.
>>341775474
I can play the first one for ever just because I just like it that much. It's comfy and Iactually like the gameplay once you get a couple of levels in and have some powers to do shit or just be invincible even on higher difficulties with Immunity
>>341776917
>sacrificing one of the broest bros in your crew.
shameful.
>>341776917
>the game actually tries to make it seem like the genophage was a bad thing
krograns are literally violent lizard cockroaches, they've got to go.
>>341776213
Oh this reminds me. Adding a geth to your party should have made everyone distrust you, lock you out of the citadel for the rest of the game, had negative consequences for your allies and he should have eventually betrayed you. How stupid can Shepard be?
>>341777318
There is nothing "bro" about Wrex. He's flat, and flips the shit out at you about the genophage business.
The krogan are scum. Wild, warmonging scum that have done absolutely nothing beyond "helping drive this or that away".
Because apparently them actually bothering to help to not get wiped by intergalactic bugs of doom is something that should compel me to forget the fact they would gladly kill absolutely everything and everyone for fun.
Or better yet. The fact one female has a personality should.
That's such a safety! A female! A single one! To put a whole race of murderous idiots in check!
Yeah no.
>>341776873
Yeah that's what's bugging me. They didn't even have to make it so "vertical", like "this gun is just better than that one so change immediately" but just put up stats like, I don't know, rate of fire, damage or something, that would be apparent and easy to see, so that you don't have to try them all forever until you find one you like enough to stick with and never change or read through walls of texts to decipher what does what
>>341777337
reversing the genophage and sparing the queen should have had disastrously bad consequences.
>>341777663
Dirty salarian detected
>>341777723
It will probably have disastrously bad consequences some decades down the line. I can get that Wrex or the Rachni queen have good will for now AND are able to keep their own in check. How long can they do it tho ? And when they die ? And when conflict arise later bewteen the warmongering krogans and people that won't give as much of a shit as your crew/Shepard ?
It will go to shit. And they'll probably be neutered/genocided again or kill everyone. And if they don't kill everyone the cycle will repeat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIPWYF_G15M
best nightclub music passing through
>>341777663
>and flips the shit out at you about the genophage business.
But that's perfectly reasonable from his perspective. Even with that attitude though he'll still trust you enough in ME1 to allow you to destroy what he thinks is a genophage cureunless you were too retarded to invest in speech/his character questbecause it's necessary to stop Saren.
>>341776894
You're hired
>>341778274
This. You can't trust the krogan or the rachni. You're putting the galaxy in huge danger actually by letting them live.
>>341778431
>unless you were too retarded to invest in speech
why play BioWare game and not invest in speech? It's a free pass to do everything you want and get the best everything.
>>341778274
It's not like they can't genophage them again if they go to shit.
to death since they burned their second chance.
>>341774853
Galaxy Police game when?
>>341778659
It's not even a question of trust or something, in my opinion. It's just how they are. If the krogan have nothing to fight they will bully the other races around and Rachni are too different so it's bound to lead to a conflict like the first war that led to their genocide.
Hell, maybe by curing the genophage and releasing the Queen, you're making the universe go on a loop and play the events that took place before ME1 again.
>>341775128
ME1 had the best atmosphere imo.
you can blame most of the shit on this fuck. however the most dissapointing part for me in ME3 was how they handled the illusive man, the finale with him and anderson was incredibly anticlimactic
>>341779027
It's canon that the Rachni were mind-controlled by the reapers into war.
>>341778774
That's why I said "the cycle will repeat". Depending on how long it takes for the Krogan to run out of outside ennemies to kill and to outbreed everybody again, nobody might really give a shit about their first rebellion (that was already thousands of years before ME1, wasn't it? Like one or two thousands, correct me if I'm wrong and confusing it with something else) and go all moral on them like the salarians first did (thus preventing genocide. I think they went all out on rachni because they thought they were only rabid animals and no talk could be made with them).
>>341779293
I know. That said, if the rachni are sentient and their interest conflicts with those of the council (provided it still exists by then), war might explode again and nobody will give a shit about genociding bugs you can't even understand.
>>341776093
>enemy with unknown motives
>space opera genre>sequel never
>>341779027
The krogan now know they can get sterilized if they go on rampage again. I think that is a good enough deterrent if Eve's and Wrex's new policies take hold.
>>341779027
I think you're going too long-term.
In ME3 you're not even sure that you can survive the Reapers. Krogan could be an essential asset in a war that could go on for hundreds of years.
Explain to me how you are able to walk around the Citadel with Legion.
Remember what 343 did to the Forerunners?
Same shit Bioware did to the Reapers.
Took away any mystery and intrigue they had.
>>341779293
Oh for fucks sake.
>>341779785
Explain to me how they replaced every heat sink gun in the galaxy with thermal clips in two years and Shepard waking up knowing what they are immediately.
>>341779282
Fair enough... they should have handled the illusive man more fairly...
>>341779785
Personal mech assistant modded for an intimidating look.
You could argue bad taste, but not illegal.
>>341779785
They think he's some kind of personal robot you modeled to look like a geth. Geth can't normally function in single units (Legion was specially made for this) so it actually makes sense no one would think he's "real."
>>341779714
That's true, I'm using the meta knowledge that we win because, well, that's what happens.
>>341779620
It could be, or they could think they can just cure it/overcome it again or win before they get sterilized again.
It's all speculation anyways, they could as well just expand the other way instead of stealing shit from council races, if they find something to shoot at.
>>341779904
Why did they even drop the cooldown mechanic? It stood out from every other TPS and made more sense than picking up ammo everywhere.
>>341779994
It's a fucking geth. At the very least they should have prevented you from having him in your landing party while in a place that would cause people to hate and distrust you for having him there.
>>341779896
It was already implied in the first game.
>>341780085
Nobody knows this much about the geth. Having a geth in your party walking around the Citidel should have had consequences for Shepard but it does not.
>>341780129
I don't even know. All I wanted was my good old spectre grade assault rifle. The illusive man can spend billions on reconstructing my body but not 300k credit for a good rifle? Come on!
>>341780246
Nothing to do with the reapers was implied in the first game because they retconned everything in the second and third one.
>>341780246
>>341780438
The Rachni queen talks of "songs of oily shadows" or something like that and if you believe in the indoctrination theory you have that shit in Shepard's dreams. So it could be.
>>341780308
if you see king arthur in full armor wielding Excalibur runing around London, do you assume he has returned at Britain's darkest our or that he is some wack LARPing?
>>341780308
>Nobody knows this much about the geth.
What? It's common knowledge. Tali info-dumps this on you in the first game.
>>341780308
It's SPECTER status, I ain't got to explain shit.
>>341780597
If a bunch of people in full armour had recently invaded my country and killed a lot of people then I'd assume he was another bad guy first.
>>341780720
You don't always have your specter status given back if you were renegade, put Udina on and killed everyone or something, I think.
>>341773127
All they had to do was not have the Reapers outright invade.
Having Reapers show up invalidates the entire point of the last two games and cheapens the antagonist into generic bad guy zombies.
>>341780597
There's a difference between an old legend and a present threat. That'd be like someone dressing up as a stereotypical muslim with a explosive vest on and no one thinking its odd.
>>341772863
>Where did it all go so wrong?
Getting bought by EA. I get this feeling that many at Bioware knew they were getting sold to EA so they started changing the direction of ME2 to please their soon to be new coroporate masters.
Fun fact but between 1-3 I think only a quarter of the people were left by the time 3 rolls in. 2 and 3 could have still been good if they at least followed up on the story of 1 more logically. Series disgusts me now though. I also hate 1 even though I shouldn't.
>>341780651
Tali is a Quarian and they know that shit because they created it. Other people don't know much except "they went beyond the veil 200 years ago oh and also two years ago there was an attack but nothing's left to prove it so idk"
>>341778997
mein neger
>>341780597
King Arthur is either dead or fictional, and didn't kill anyone recently. Geth also are obviously Geth and not LARPers in Geth costumes, since their anatomy wouldn't allow it.
>>341780651
To be fair, Tali is a special case. If Garrus told you, that would mean something.
>>341772863
that quote. 10/10
What do you do during the summer video game drought /v/?
>>341781282
replay mass effect
>>341780864
>That'd be like someone dressing up as a stereotypical muslim with a explosive vest on and no one thinking its odd.
It's a pretty common "bad taste" costume for costume parties. Same concept.
>>341780864
More like disguising yourself as Hitler or a nazi
>>341774853
I definitely agree with you. I'm tired of games being all about saving the world/galaxy. Enough with the ancient evils and shit.
>>341780864
the boldness is what put it beyond most people.
a terrorist would try to stay hidden to maximize positioning and timing. Imagine seeing Osama walking down New York back in the day.
you'd get some dirty looks, maybe a linching attempt in the bad part of town, but no one would believe it was actually Osama.
>>341781282
Tell myself I'm going to finish my backlog. End up replaying Mass Effect.
>>341781349
This. Legion is by the side of well-known spectre Shepard and isn't attacking anyone or acting threatening.
They probably all just think Shep is a maximum edgelord for purchasing a robot that looks like that.
>>341777598
>and he should have eventually betrayed you
>we should make the game harder and then punish you more because screw you
>>341777598
Shepard isn't stupid. He's always right. Always. It can't be stupidity when everything to do turns out to be the right thing and does nothing but good.
>>341781282
>meant to make this an actual new thread
Welp. Time to die.
>>341775920
>ays won. Losing is not in my skillset. So you're probably gonna reply "lol epik trolled" or "u mad bro" but once you've done that you've shown me I've won. I've tricked the trickster and conquered memery. I live everyday growing stronger to
kek
>>341781282
Blood and Wine, Overwatch, and Odin Sphere. Should last me all summer. I'll buy Ratchet and Clank if I need to later on.
>>341781327
>>341782001
I bought the trilogy on sale when it was up for $5 on PSN. Unfortunately the load times are ridiculously bad, as is the DS3. I hope they put in ME2 and 3 up for xb1 BC so I can actually replay them some day.
>>341779586
Sequel never probably helped them be so mysterious, to be fair.
That said the Shivans ARE basically the reapers done massively better.
>>341773604
Geth: Kill or let live?
>>341783321
I saved them the first time but then they wiped out the Quarians and Tali killed herself.
So I loaded up the save before the decision and killed them. Robots aren't worth real lives.
>>341783026
I bought them as they came out on xbox360 and god was it shitty. Bought them all again on PC because I was that much of a buyfag and I love the games despite their flaws.also wanted to play it in english because on xbox I had to play it in the french dub and my tali waifufaggotry couldn't suffer the french VA
>>341783321
Kill 'em
Genocide list:
Krogan
Rachni
Geth
>>341783321
Save both Geth and Quarian because robutts are real people too now.
in 2 where they turned the series into a shittier Gears of War wih saturday morning cartoon villains
>>341774160
I would have been fine if the reapers that invaded were actually con men, but the looming question of who ACTUALLY invented the mass relay station remained intact.
That could have played out really well
>>341783485
Do the Thorian count as genocide too since he was the only of his kind as far as we can tell ?
>>341773604
You got it mixed up. The reapers were supposed to find a way to reverse entropy to prevent the heat death of the universe, but they lacked the processing power to find an answer, so they needed more "reapers" to interface in the network (kinda like the geth) but their creation needs galaxy tier amounts of genetic material. Hence the cycle.
>>341783321
I let them live and then chose the destroy ending. :^)
>>341773604
Huh, I thought it was about them trying to build the smartest Reaper ever who then can solve the problem of dark matter ending the universe.
Yeah, no idea why they would need humans for that.
>>341783275
He's almost right.
http://www.pcgamer.com/mass-effect-3-series-former-lead-writer-reveals-original-ending-ideas/
Dark energy tech would destroy the universe, Reapers are immortal, kill everyone to keep them from using the tech that will destroy the universe because they want to be around for a longer time.
Makes a little more sense, but it's kind of stupid. What is the Reapers' tech that doesn't have this issue? Why can't they just try to convince/manipulate races away from it? Why does it matter when the rest of the universe is probably already using dark energy?
>>341783453
From my experience ME1 on 360 was better than ME1 on PS3. I couldn't play the beginning due to the load times.
I do miss ME1 though. I say this all the time in ME topics, but 1 legitimately wowed me when it first came out.
>>341783595
2 was the worst of both worlds. Inferior to the RPG mechanics of the first and inferior to the superior action shooter elements of the third. 2's movement was also clunky as shit and to see all the retcons it brought in was very sad.
It has redeeming qualities otherwise I wouldn't have beat it 5 times but it is in no way a great game. Ton of flaws that I didn't even get into.
>>341783916
Gotta let them fight for a bit but fuck using the other choices, reapers have to go.
>>341784142
Anyone who chose options other than destroy did it wrong.
>>341784070
Those god damn elevator loads. Could take forever staring at a wall moving.
>>341784292
Nah, headcanon control ending is better.
>>341784292
>not using the reapers as the ultimate galactic police force.
shit son
>>341783026
The Mass Effect Trilogy is actually on sale on origin right now ($15). You can play them on a toaster, and if your computer has an SSD your load times will be significantly improved.
>>341784352
>tfw replaying Mass Effect on my PC that has an SSD now
It gets to "equalizing interior air pressure" before it lets me into the Normandy and elevators take no time at all. It's great, it's a shame consoles use regular hard drives still.
>>341784472
>>341784632
For some reason I dont think the control would result in peace or everlasting peace...
Unrest would eventualy build up, the races would learn more and more(aproach) of reaper tech and unless it keeps its tech, army and weaponry years ahead of anything in the galaxy, conflict is imminent(people would forget sooner or later the feats of Shepard and disrespect the new "galactic police).
I dont understand, if you all hate the ending so bad play until you get to the star kid and make up your own ending, problem solved.
I've only played ME1&2. Really loved them heard the shitstorm about 3, so i never played it. Should i keep my sanity and keep on replaying 1 and 2 or dive in and start fucking my self with 3?
>>341783117
They lasted two games without being ruined, which beats Mass Effect. The best part about them was every time you scored a victory over their deadliest ship a bigger one would appear until you get to the Juggernaut which they just have hundreds of.
>>341775920
>says he's not a whiner
>fills the post box with his whining
>believes anyone on this entire site actually gives a shit about his opinions or ideas
>believes he's actually intelligent, despite the fact that his triad screams the opposite by its very nature
Are you a professional comedian? Because my sides have run off like a Kenyan. Unless you're completely serious, because in that case I need to see your pepe folder for the rare ones
>pic related your fucking face when you read this
