I'm looking for something to bug my head and challenge me,
My mental health noticeably declined when I was trying to figure out my depression. Meds have helped and I'm noticing my short term memory recovering and focus function
I'm looking for games that you've noticed improve functions like focus, memory, and possibly even multitasking. Heck I look for apps like this for mobile; but good shit like managing Ornstien and Smough are great examples of mental discipline. It can span any form of gameplay.
thanks
>>341764645
http://zestriddle.ovh.org/
>>341764645
I know its not exacly what you are looking for, and people wont agree with me, but try Path of Exile WITHOUT looking at any wiki or online help.
The skill tree got over 1300 points, doing a decent build is pretty much required to not get destroyed later on, etc. It should be stimulating by going blind and learning the game yourself.
Lumosity. Saw commercials for it. cost money tho
>>341765146
It's a scam. They got sued and admitted it doesn't do shit.
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2016/01/lumosity-pay-2-million-settle-ftc-deceptive-advertising-charges
>>341764793
Don't click this link, tried to install a virus on my pc
Uno
>>341764645
A card game? Something like magic or hex maybe. You could try either for free on steam (magic origins is free)
practical quotient intelligence is a pretty good puzzler, it is for PSP but that is easily emulated in any pc and some phones.
So how well would normie facebook games like Candy Crush help with this stuff? I mean they're basically puzzle games that should get the player using their brain right?
>>341764645
Read.
Spacechem
>>341765584
nah, they are designed to get you addicted, it is like fast food of entertainment, stay away.
>>341765387
What virus exactly?
>>341764645
codewars
>>341764645
Bioshock Infinite.
>>341764645
Master of Orion 2 (1 is also fine)
Fighting games? Or some at least. Fighting games competivily can be very mentally engaging when you consider frame data, execution, mind games ect ect.
Could be entirely wrong though as they aren't for everybody.
>>341765770
Wait a minute, that card...
>>341764645
Spacechem, human resource machine, TIS-100
Maybe dual n-back game like this one:
http://brainworkshop.sourceforge.net/
It gets hard as fuck with increasing n.
If you want an actual videogame than starcraft 2 ladder covers concentration and multitasking pretty well.
>>341764645
I love you OP. By the way, dont stay on the meds, I know people with similar problems and after a few years of meds their personnaly changed. But when they stop the meds for a whiel, they're back to normal... Until they have another life crisis and got back to meds.
I think horror games sharpens your spirit to handle panic and fear. My favorite ones are amnesia: the dark descent and Eternal Darkness
>>341764645
Try Legend of Grimrock 2. It's not exactly about multitasking (although high difficulty combat might be applicable) or memory or focus, but its puzzles often force you to think "outside the box", which is always neat.
fucking tetris
ignore everything else
>>341764645
Brain Age for DS may be too obvious an answer, but still
Antichamber
Talos Principal
Motherfucking Tetris
gmod wiremod
modded mineraft
cities in motion 2
they might train you into a supreme autist tho
Tetris
Chess
Go
For warm ups
RTS and general strategy are good: starcraft, age of empires, civilization (2 and 4).
Arena fps or just serious fps: xonotic, counter strike
I mean, the answer is so easy and obvious this thread must be a proof of your laziness, OP.
Try chemspace, ozu, simulators, the list goes on.
Study physics and logic on your own. Get a bigger vocabulary(learn new meanings, not synonyms).
Stop drinking coffee daily, the tolerance is the Opposite of the nootropic effect.
Learn how to program(start with C and Python, then move on to whatever is personally useful), read SICP
If you have problem with motivation, just realize that your life is shit. I suggest that you also get into theology so that you won't call yourself a victim in a chaotic universe.
Try to to be a serious person. This is so fundamental, stop laughing, stop being too retarded.
Picross3D is one of the best puzzle games I ever played.
It's a 3DS game; I don't know if it can be emulated.
Factorio
>>341767406
Not OP but you have good ideas
But then
>stop laughing
>theology
Oh shit nigga what are you doing
Try the old myst games. Especially the first one.
Don't use a walkthough and have fun, OP.
>>341767406
>Those 2 last paraghaphs
What are you doing?
Theology? Telling someone who's depressed to stop laughing? What?
>>341766170
I'm on weak dose of cipralex, my psych is trying to convince me I might have early onset psychosis, so he perscribed me abilify, and a 2.5mg made me lust for anything, enough to browse craigslist for shadey shit, it was fucked. Just one had me going like that for 4 days straight. meds are fucked,
I take supplements with the cipralex and just do some excersize and I've been better.
I've only been depressed and this psych guilt trips me for not trusting him telling me what to swallow. He had me on edge once when he told me he can take my rights and have me institutionalised if I get bad.
I need a new psych
If you're looking at mobile, stuff like diner dash is good for multitasking. Also fruit ninja and flight control.
As far as real games, I'd say just about any of the good Zelda games would be a good bet. Stay off the 3DO versions and you're basically fine.
>>341768223
Supplements + sports should be enough for your body to fix itself, including your mental state.
Drop him, he's just adding more stress.
>>341768223
I'm far from a loose screw, I'm just in his, "early prevention program" but I would take any psychiatrists advice with a grain of salt, they're basically drug dealers. I have more respect for a family doctor.
>>341768223
surely it's not up to one person to decide you have to be institutionalised? Someone tell me this isn't the case in any 1st world country
>>341767623
Yeah, just try it.
>>341767871
Depression already implies he has few active dopamine receptors. By not laughing, he prevents Dopamine Desensitization which is what causes depression. If you want to test your motivation, try solving this paradox, pic related. Or just try opening a math book.
>>341765061
This looks interesting, thanks mate. ill try this blind. it's like another world I'm getting into, well I do like lore so it would be a plus.
>>341768223
I had some drugs problems around the end of my teenage years. A thing that helped to stop was doing sports. I started to do some taekwondo. Not only did it help me mentally (need some rigor, a good way liberate some frustrations, etc.) it also helped with getting my body (and confidence) back in shape.
I'm drug free now for... 9years? So yeah, whatever you do, try to do some sports as-well, it really cant hurt.
>>341765387
too late, but I'm running malware bytes already.
The Witness
Legend of Grimrock 1 and 2.
>>341765637
This. You want to rejuvenate your mental state, read a book.
Not a screen, an actual book.
Good luck with that btw.
>>341768223
Different story entirely, but I got cancer (leukemia), brain hemorrhages, and epilepsy and partial paralysis about a year ago. I've been getting getting better mentally and physically for about a year since. I've been going to a therapist for the last few months and I'm starting to think about dropping it, as I'm not really noticing much good come out of it. He's way too quick to recommend antidepressants even though I don't really consider myself to be depressed.
Anyways keep your chin up and hopefully we won't die
>>341766141
N-backs have been such a challenge, even 2-backs are hard to get a hold of. Its fun to do the dual too, very simple but I'd never thought of memory working that way
At least you got good tastes in art from the images you're replying with
>>341764645
Play shmups. Or tetris.
>>341766437
>>341766801
>>341767406
yes, tetris, yes
Here are my favorites
>Phoenix Wright series [Logic and memory]
>XCOM series [Multitasking and strategy]
>Portal series [Mathematics]
>Civilization V [Strategy and micromanagement]
>FTL: Faster than Light [Micromanagement, strategy and mathematics]
Ask me if you want more...
>>341768810
>in any 1st world country
we're talking about the USA here
Puyo motherfucking Puyo
>>341767406
I study mathematical physics
trust me, I was once the type to think depressed people were just lazy, didn't help with figuring my condition. It's not motivation, It's just a difficulty with living to carey out basic human task, you can tell how much It's impeded when you notice mental decline and being less than what you were, or could have been.
you're right about coffee, it's stressing
>>341764645
My hella autistic friend loves making Dark Souls builds, playing Shin Megami Tensei and Osu!. Idk if they're good for you since I've only played DaS out of this list but yeah.
>>341767406
also, that last line was full retard edgy
thanks tho
>>341769756
That's because their job is to sell you meds, not help you get better. That one is up to you. Which is why shrinks are a waste of money or a crutch for people that have no one to talk to about their issues.
>>341768223
If your drugs don't work ask to get a different type. They DO work it's just not everyone of them works wonders for everyone, some drugs can really fuck you up too if your body doesn't like them. Either change dosage or change drugs. I do suggest staying on them from my own personal experience.
RTS
>>341769037
As a math/phys major, I've been enjoying these recommendations to it. You guys are great.
>>341764645
Get Grand Master form Tetris Grand Master.
It's a blast.
>>341767406
...What's wrong with laughing? That's terrible advice.
>>341768223
>He had me on edge once when he told me he can take my rights and have me institutionalised if I get bad.
What the fuck?
>>341769037
>mfw someone will take these shitty tips
You should leave that "it's all chemicals!!1 lol so meaningless :^)" euphoric redditor mentality, because pessimistic nihilism won't help him with his depression.
It's funny how you mention that laughing is bad to cure depression, because other scientific studies show contrary results. And just like these poor researches, it's risky to generalize human nature like you just did. It really depends on the situation: a good, genuine laugh may distract a depressed individual from his state, helping him remember the good times and that not everything is shit. And forcing yourself to laugh when you don't feel it will cause yourself to feel even worse.
OP must know himself. He should be the one to decide when it's appropiate to laugh or not. To remove such a fundamental part of the human nature that greatly contributes to our overall happiness and helps us not to take bad situations so seriously. What sort of retard would want to do that based on incomplete scientific studies that don't take other factors in consideration?
>>341769037
I'm an engineering student, your tips are retarded. Trust me, I'm an engineer, sorta.
>>341768223
>He had me on edge once when he told me he can take my rights and have me institutionalised if I get bad.
I am sorry but what the actual fuck. Why the fuck people go to these quacks. At best they set you on meds that kill you on the inside and at worst they threaten to put you in the institution.
These people are not here to help you.
>>341768223
Get a psychologist. They can't drown you in meds (or can they in the US?) and you'll actually have to work at your problems instead of suppressing them.
Nethack, Dynahack, Infra Arcana, IVAN etc. not *bands, they're just a grindfest except Sil.
>>341764645
City building sims like sim city
>>341770779
Psychiatry is not a science, and I hope you know better than to just say " your body doesn't like these drugs, so find one that works" this is where it's unreliable. You should know better than to put blind faith in it. it's a game played with our bodies.
psychiatrists really have no clue of mechanics to how these substances affect the brain. there is no understanding involved, they always jabber about what they know, but not what the consequences specifically are . it's just throwing a rock in a pit to tell how deep it is without the insight there may be bloodthirsty creatures lurking within. It's a trial and error process that ordinary people can be put through. I'd rather not be that next guinea pig.
