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Should I waste my time and money with overwatch? It just seems
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Should I waste my time and money with overwatch? It just seems like everyone is complaining about it. The tick rate, the balance, the map design, the hit boxes.

I am really looking for something to play until October, and I'm having second thoughts about buying this game. Yes, I'd have acquaintances to play with, but every game is fun with people you know.

On PC
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>>341749729
I'd only play it if you're bored of TF2
TF2 is the better game
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>>341749729
We are not your mom nor we can know if you have shit taste or not, if you'll like it or not. Decide for yourself.
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>>341750137
I take it you just pay full price for every game you're slightly interested in then?
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>it seems like everyone

No that's mostly just /v/ hating anything that isn't weeb trash
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>>341749729
No, anon. It isn't worth it. It's genuinely a bad game.

Pretty much all of the exposure here is because of viral marketers and shills.
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>>341750407
Everywhere I go people complain but think they'll patch it
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>>341750407
>i-if you don't like it you're just a weeb!
i think both weebshit and overwatch are shit
fuck off
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How new are you that you think /v/ complaining about something is indicative of anything?

Balance of the game is overall fine, all "low tier" characters are completely viable (especially once D.Va gets her buffs), I don't give a flying fuck about tick rate and neither to most non-autists, hit boxes are wider than the models for most if not all shooters.

Yes the game is fun, especially if you have buds on it.
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>>341750493
If everyone hated it that much they'd stop playing.
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>>341750435
>all shills and marketers
Literally impossible given the player base. There's zero statistical likelihood /v/ isn't filled with actual players.
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>>341750042
Pretty much. Playing Overwatch just makes me want to play TF2 more since it's a better game.
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>>341750672
Not just /v/
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Its good fun for a bit. I've put almost 60 hours into it.

Then you hit a certain MMR and it becomes literally no fun 6 man tryhard premades using the cheesiest cunt methods every single game. I'm actually going to stop playing period until ranked is released so some of these shitheads go there for good.
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>>341749729
>It just seems like everyone is complaining about it.

Where the fuck do you think you are, faggot? This is /v/ NEVER EVER trust what /v/ says about games. If you have a friend >you in charge of having friends that has it, ask to play it there for a minute and make your own fucking decision.

As for me, I play Overwatch and I think it's great.
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>>341751016
found the shill
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>>341751075
found the memester. epic bro
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I have a library of 950 games on PC to choose from and play. I am very picky and almost ADD-like in that if I start not enjoying a game or even if I just lose interest a lil Ill just stop and never play it again after a couple hours.

I have so far plowed every free moment of vidya time I have into Overwatch since its launch. It's a good ass vidya game. Haters gonna hate.
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>>341751016
>>341750763
>>341750407
None of these posts touch on really any concerns or complaints raised In the OP. It's just "UHH /V/ COMPLAINS OK" when OP never mentioned just /v/.
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>>341749729

Those are all legitimate problems but it's still a fun game. There isn't much to play until fall and you'll probably get your money's worth.
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>>341750042
pretty much this, though i look at Overwatch aslike the little brother of tf2, and soon on he'll be just as great as his big bro if you give it enough time.
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>>341751245
How can you have any complaints or concerns about something which you know nothing of? I said play it somewhere before making a decision. Not that hard.
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If overwatch ran on source it could have killed team fortress 2.
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>>341751380
Except the visual design of TF2, character variety, balance, level design and community are all worse?
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>>341749729
People complain about women yet they still fuck em.
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>>341751194
No it isn't. You just have an avoidant personality and can't finish anything you start. Good job wasting time.
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>>341751587
>balance
>level design
>worse than Overwatch
I take it you don't actually play TF2
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>>341751642
>having fun playing different games
>wasting time
Autist detected.
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>>341751412
Once again not talking about any of the things OP brought up. If I have no idea or the wrong idea about something I'd expect a reply clarifying misconceptions.

>Just play it

Is a stupid thing to say to someone. What if they can't?
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>>341749729
It's fun, the different heroes have enough variety and it actually needs some strategy and composition to win.
The tick rate isn't stellar, but if people weren't constantly trolling about I probably wouldn't have noticed. Only had two deaths where I should've been behind cover in 105 hours played and even then it's just one death and you're back 10 seconds later anyway.

Map design is okay, you just have to keep in mind that some points are meant to be hard to take (B on Hanamura/Volskaya etc.), requiring ultimates to team-kill the opposition.

Some maps have tight choke-points, but those aren't a problem anymore once you get out of the lowest MMR where people complain about getting killed by Torbjörn's weak ass turrets.

Hit boxes aren't really an issue either, since the fast pace already makes it hard enough to hit many enemies, especially Genji and Tracer. It's more a point of using abilities, tanks and barriers to avoid damage rather than dodging bullets.
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You're gonna just have both camps shitting around here OP. If you do decide to bite the bullet at least you're on PC and not getting that $20 console tax.

As to whether or not it's worth it? Well, I'd weigh the pros and cons of what you know. For me the closed/open beta provided enough fun but I got extremely bored right before launch so I didn't make a purchase. It might hold you over until Oct. but they really need more content and adjustments if thrh expect to make it in the long run.
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>>341749729
I never was a big fan of TF.

And Overwatch is just a TF clone thats all style and no substance whatsoever. The rounds are incredibly short, way shorter than the time you spend searching a game. Above all, the game is extremely boring if youre not under the age of 12. I only played a few hours of it during the open weekend like a month ago and got bored incredibly soon.

And to add insult to injury, the game feels like a free to play shit, but it costs your full fucking 60 bucks, whivh is unforgovable jewelery. Also, very,VERY limited content.
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>>341751829
I played enough of it after they added all the community weapons and shit to know that the balance was completely anihilated by multiple weapons for different classes.
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>>341750301
>not making enough to buy games on release

You had your chance to try it at the open beta, it's not our fault you're poor and dumb. Choose for yourself.
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I main Zarya.
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I'm just here for porn
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>>341751587
>hurr TF2 has 9 classes so it's less varied than Overwatch
If you actually played TF2 you would know that each class has tons of different playstyles depending on the weapons you equip. Overwatch characters are mostly one trick ponies with little to no skillcap,and Blizzard compensates that with sheer numbers.
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>>341752017
>way shorter than the time you spend searching a game
Rounds last between 2:30 (complete curb-stomp) and 10-11 minutes (normal round). The longest wait I ever had for a match was ~3 minutes at some ungodly hour in the early morning.
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>>341752057
Name one weapon that isn't the dead ringer that is overpowered/"completely annihilates" the balance in TF2 for any class
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>>341751990
>lowest MMR where people complain about getting killed by Torbjörn's weak ass turrets.


I used to main tor on defense and just outright dominate. My W/L hits the fabled 65 percent started seeing prestige players in my lobby (i am level 30). holy shit my reign as tor is over.
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>>341752017

Two friends and I had the exact same experience with the open beta. We were all fucking excited to finally try OW, had been keeping up with the news and after many hours in we got bored. Everybody started playing in bursts and no one bought a copy.

"That was fun but it needs more content and some tweaks." Is what I kept hearing.
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>>341752164
Battle net wouldn't install for me the entire beta period and before. Only now with I assume a new installer version does it install

>Buying literally every game or thing you're slightly interested in to try it instead of asking people about it

This is just retarded behavior that puts you into poverty
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>>341749729
>It just seems like everyone is complaining about it.

>browse /v/, a board that does nothing but bitch and moan about video games
>suspect that you should skip out on a good game because people bitch and moan about it a lot on /v/

?????

>>341750042
ppl who cant let go of tf2 are so sad

t. someone with 3000 hours, played since 2008
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>>341751829
>>341751829
Characters in OW, as best as I've determined, are more balanced than the alt weapon options of TF2.
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>>341752813
See
>>341751245
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>>341752630
Level means nothing in Overwatch. I played a game with only people above 100 today and they made the same dumb-ass mistakes as someone who just started (and of course ignored everything I said in chat).

The thing with Torbjörn is, you need to play him very actively. If you sit in the back, hammering your turret, you're useless and pretty much dead as soon as the enemy has finished off your team. You need to have your turret in the back, providing 100% accurate cover-fire, while attacking with your team at the front.
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Just pick up rainbow six siege. I grabbed the starter edition for $15. Been having fun with it despite some design flaws. But theres enough there to last me the rest of the year I think. At this point it could last you until Oct.
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>>341749729
see
>>341750042

its a fun, casual game, but doesn't have the depth of gameplay TF2 offers. still worth the $40 for the playtime I'm getting out of it
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>>341753009
I've played a lot of it. It's not really fun. And the graphics have this ugly smeary look that a lot of Ubi games do.
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It's a great game. I'd really recommend that you listen to professional critic reviews (on respectable websites, of course) instead of the people on /v/ who hate everything anyway.
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>>341749729
It's a shallow game for people that aren't capable of getting gud.
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>>341752903
because most of them aren't actual complaints, it's just /v/ being bitter and hating everything. the tick rate and hit boxes are annoying but /v/ blows them out of proportion like always

there's something fundamentally fucking retarded about letting /v/ be the source of your spending habits and im calling op out on it.
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>>341749729

It really sort of depends on how many hours per day you intend to drop on it. You should stay entertained for a while if you play it maybe an hour or two a day (matches tend to only last maybe 10-15 minutes or so) and try to play out as much of the 21 character roster as possible.

It's a really good game to play on the side, but I wouldn't say it's "all my free time goes into this particular game" material for most people.

In terms of balance, it's basically a game of "certain characters counter other characters" and having a decent team comp for the right map and such. (So if you wind up playing with a lot of random people, this can be an issue. Unfortunately it happens pretty often where people will pick characters that aren't even close to being optimal for the situation.)

I can't say much about the tick rate because I've always been cursed with shitty high latency and I always will be. Forever.

(I really do wish they'd add way more maps and game modes, though. After a while, they tend to get boring because there really aren't enough.)

tl;dr It's a pretty fun game, but like most Blizzard games in general, only worth playing casually because there's really not enough content to make you want to play it hardcore.
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>>341749729
100% only if you have friends to play with.

It won't even take 3 days before you despise having to play with random retards. Trust me on this please.
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>>341751194
I'd like to make a contrast to this guy because people have different methods of picking the games they play. I'm one of those guys with a very small library of games that are all played to death, I don't buy games unless I know I'll really wring my money's worth out of them. I also like Overwatch and I've been playing it a lot. My only real complaint with the game is Zarya's hair with almost completely wrecks her aesthetic to me. I've gotten used to it, but I know there's superior alternatives they didn't use.
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>>341753213
>the game expects me and my team to work together, instead of running off alone and owning noobs with my phat skillz
>this makes me angry
What's next? "Ultimates are shit! Just press Q to win!" or other low-MMR scrub speak?
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>>341749729
Lol wut? Who complains about balances and maps? Only McCree was too powerful. And the maps are one of the best things in the game.
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>>341752702
>asking /v/ anything

You never learn, do you? If you have buds who play the game, ask them instead. Me and my buds got a bunch of friends into the game who didn't sign up for the beta by just letting them play on our computers. Don't be afraid to leave your house, anon.
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>>341753185
Man don't pull the reviewer shit. Those people are worse at games than /v/ is.

>>341753236
So which ones are valid then? Talk about them.
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>>341753178
If it wasn't fun, why'd you play a lot of it?
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>>341753539
I did. They talked about the same complaints in the OP, but assume they'll get fixed. They're also much less into games than Me
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Oh it's this thread again.
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>>341753639
Multiple beta tests then the free weekend. To see how the game has moved along into the final product. Didn't like the final product, ran worse than the betas too
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>>341749729
tick rate and hit boxes are something everyone deals with, both for and against.

despite that being bullshit its still a fun game
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>>341749729
The hitboxes (PC only) and tickrate are the only legitimate complaints. Complaints about balance and map design is just salt.
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>>341753543
>So which ones are valid then? Talk about them.

like i said earlier, the tick rate and the hitboxes.

complaints about tick rate mostly come from people spouting "20 TICK!!" despite not knowing anything about netcode or latency. 20 tick is unforgivably low for an fps game in the 21st century, and i pray that blizz up it to 60. they've been toying around with the idea and seem somewhat open to it depending on community feedback. that said, people who just spam it every time someone gets shot around a corner are fucking clueless. every fps game ever made as a "favour the shooter" deal going on no matter how high the tickrate is. that's just how playing fps games online is.

the hitboxes are totally fine for hitscan weapons and people just spam projectile hitbox webms and act like the whole game has enormous hitboxes. imo the projectile hitboxes are a little too big, but projectile hitboxes are usually big in fps games so that projectile weapons/classes are actually viable given that they'd be so much harder to use than hitscan if they shared the same hitboxes. it's not a problem unique to overwatch, so i dont know why people get so mad over them.
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>>341753684
Then I'll be honest with you. The game is only fun when you play with friends; otherwise, you'll see a bunch of retards racking up kills with no intention of doing the objectives. POTG's will be cheap Q kills with no skill whatsoever and it'll be just an all around bore to play.

With friends, I've had a blast nine times out of ten. Balance doesn't mean shit when you're actually having fun.
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>playing the new league of legends

why?
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>>341754492
>POTG's will be cheap Q kills with no skill whatsoever

This is literally only the case when playing with shitters like youre most like doing since youre low level
Good players are prepared for ults and know how to counter them

>Balance
Tell me one hero that is unbalanced just to prove youre not a shitter
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>>341754631

Popular at the moment which means a good sized playerbase and quick matching. Low skill ceiling which means you can jump around and feel great using most heroes.
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>>341749729

>40 dollar game with skinner box levels and grinding for random cosmetics/cash shop
>no modding, custom maps, or user servers
>20tick servers
>oversized hitboxes combined with huge projectiles on almost every character
>stuns and slows in an FPS
>"ultimate" abilities that you just press and get 3+ kills automatically

It's trash, but considering most people here eat up mobashit it's unsurprisingly well liked.
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>>341754631
I want something new to play that actually has a population
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>>341755438
it's a blizzard game with the LoL playerbase....
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