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>He missed out on the best expansion since TBC because of "m-muh kung fu panda"
>>341709271
>Implying Mist of Pandaria was any good.
WoW was good until WotLK.
Pandaland was the last straw for me but WoW started turning to shit when they chose their expansion model with TBC
>>341709271
mist had good dungeons and raids but the time between content is what hurt it the most.
every thing else was fine except for druids in pvp.
pvp was fun because it was the most balanced expansion yet in wow where mostly all specs from all classes were viable in 3's. if anything id take a pvp legacy server of Mist any day.
>>341709271
I'd say the only problem with MoP, aside from the theme which triggered a lot of people, was the SoO content drought.
Aside from that I'd say it was actually a solid expansion.
>>341709271
>best expansion since TBC
Are you mentally retarded? When will this meme die? Mists of Pandaria was only slightly better than Cataclysm. TBC remains the best. You are ruining video games.
>>341709887
Early MoP was peak of wow
late mop in content drought was worse than late cata in same period.
>>341710056
>When will this meme die?
It won't because it's true.
>mfw throne of thunder
>>341709271
>re-sub for MoP
>Pandas for both sides
>ok i guess there isnt a diffrence between alliance and horde
>Both sides have monsters and normal looking characters
>Doing a 5 man
>Easiest bullshit of my entire life
>This whole segment where we chase a rabbit chasing a carrot on a stick
Like holy shit, that felt like the biggest fuck you Ive ever had told to me.
HAHA you stupid faggots all you do is chase the carrot hoping for better loot.
Its like the developers themselves were poking fun at me
>>341709884
>Legacy server of Mop
I didnt know it was possible to get a boner on /v/.
>>341710968
>not a single word about how freaking amazing Heroic Garrosh fight was.
Stay pleb.
>>341709271
Except for the fact that MoP was terrible. Only reason why you babies keep making threads like this is because Draenor is the absolute worst so it hides this.
>>341711082
Hard to enjoy anything with that sour ass taste in my mouth
I want to slap a THIC PANDAREN BUTT
>>341711169
I wouldn't call MoP absolutely terrible, but WotLK outshined it in every way, shape, and form. People bitch about Wrath on here, but Wrath is where Blizzard finally started figuring out how to make raid fights that relied more on mechanics than poorly-tuned numbers.
Not to mention the environment/continent was GOAT.
MoP was the last time I really enjoyed the game. Even during the content droughts there was always ERP, and Pandaria was one of the best designed continents they've ever done for the game.
WoD killed all desire I had to keep playing WoW and Legion doesn't make me feel a thing. Going back to the past through shitty "legacy realms" wouldn't help either, I just have no desire to play the game ever again.The porn's still alright.
>>341711507
WotLK was shit. I'll never understand why everyone on here loves it so much.
>7 zones of snow, a remade Un'Goro, and a crystal forest with three quests
>Tons of cut content
>Dungeon finder introduced
>Welfare epics introduced
>Reused Naxx
>Phasing out the asshole
>Focusing more on story than gameplay and community
>Vehicle combat shoved down our throats
>Patch 3.2 as a whole
>Retconning their own story mid-expansion
>The beginning of the year-long content drought
>That shitty "raid" they introduced to try and keep us entertained post-ICC
>>341711507
The only redeeming shit about MoP was the playable Pandas , adding the monk class , some of the creatures were particular interesting (like those cursed stone guys), and a few of the lands in Pandaria were beautiful. The dungeons and the raids were mindless and felt never ending due to designs and just bland "get it we're asian" shit. Meh.
WOTLK was the prime of the game even if you liked another Xpac more. You had a ton of players , you had great zones (granted I could understand if people bitched about the amount of undead in every zone..but that was kinda the point) , great dungeons , great raids , cool armor sets , motherfuckin Arthas...Classes didn't feel too bad. It was just an awesome Expansion.
>>341709271
No I missed out on it because Cata was garbage causing me to quit. TBC remains the best in my eyes
Would you marry a Pandaren?
>>341712136
Howling fjord was amazing though. That scenery, that music.
>>341712136
>I'll never understand why everyone on here loves it so much.
Because it was when they started playing.
>Daily rep grinds
>Worst dungeons in the entire game's history
>some of the worst raids in the games history, with only one okay raid inbetween
>Worst PVP in the history of the game, with PVP power and resilience making it impossible to play unless you had full PVP gear
Nah, MOP was a terrible expansion, but not as bad as WOD or Cata.
Also the timeless isle was shit, the only reason why people think it was god because it it gave people something to do besides daily grinding.
Why did people love TBC over Vanilla so much? The zones were fucking awful.
>>341712818
>Worst PVP in the history of the game
WoD is even worse considering the pvp is fucking dead.
>>341712830
Because more people saw end game and built bonds.
>>341712732
I somewhat doubt that, if anything most people started in late Vanilla but never got to raid in it. Weren't good enough to get past the first tier in BC and finally were able to raid properly in WotLK so they have the best memories of raiding in WotLK
>>341712732
Or the people who didnt like pandas just dismissed the expansion too quickly and missed out on the best gaming experience wow had to offer.
>>341712951
It wouldn't surprise me. I finally unsubbed for good in WoD but by then practically everyone I asked on my server said they had started playing in Wrath or later.
I can't believe people actually started in cataclysm and liked it enough to stick around for more expansions but it's true.
>>341713038
Read the thread before you start replying to posts you retarded panda lover.
>>341712895
WOD's PVP is NOTHING compared to the shitstain that was MOP.
Just because you finally got a decent rating in MOP and ashran is shit doesn't make up for the fact that the power creep in MOP was fucking awful, the PVP grind was the worse the game ever had
>Best expansion since TBC
>Wrath exists
Also any expansion with dungeon finder and LFR is automatically shit
>>341712732
This. A lot of people like a certain part of a game because it's when they began playing. The same can apply to other mediums likeOne Piece and Marineford.
BC is, and always will be, the best WoW expansion.
>>341713110
You seem mad. Its okay considering you missed out on the best expansion in wows history. :-)
>>341713246
>Wrath is the best expansion
>Any expansion with dungeon finder is shit
>MOP when kunfu panda came out
>mfw i realize im not the targeted audience
>>341709271
>8 years of power creep later, Garry has 1.1 billion hp
pandafu thread
>>341713369
>mfw i realize im not the targeted audience
That's exactly what happened to me when they nerfed the Cata heroics/raids early in the expansion. Most of my guild quit on that day myself included.
>>341712136
>7 zones of snow
Objectively wrong.
>A remade Un'Goro
If it was remade, it was improved in every imaginable way. Sholozar wasn't the strongest zone, but it was a fun little power struggle between two factions.
>Crystal forest with three quests
Looked wonderful and served as a nice set above which GOAT capital city could float
>Tons of cut content
Literally describes every stage in WoW's history.
>Dungeon Finder and Welfare epics
Not going to defend Dungeon Finder as a concept, but at least it was released later in the expansion. Welfare epics were a huge QoL improvement at the time, and the way they were acquired in WotLK allowed people to jump into raiding without being TOTAL fuckwits (as raid finder does)
>Reused Naxx
Allowing a massive chunk of the player base to experience a wonderful raid that only ~3% of players got to experience before-hand? Also a raid that fit fantastically into the expansion's theme? Oh no. Tragedy.
>Vehicle combat shoved down our throats
For, what, technically two raid bosses and one five-man boss? Otherwise those vehicles were mainly relegated to quests and dailies that helped get those "welfare epics" you just bitched so much about.
>Retconning their story mid-expansion
Because WoW's story has always been so well-written and sacred.
>Focusing more on story than gameplay and community
Quests provided a decent, relatively consistent narrative to work your way through in each zone. As far as story altering gameplay/the development of content in the expansion, it certainly neither halted the team from making the wonderful Ulduar or the hilariously out-of-place ToC.
>Patch 3.2 as a whole
Fun little patch. Most of its flaws are in the fact that it took focus off of Ulduar, though.
>year-long content draught
No contesting you here.
>Ruby Sanctum
Better than an absolute content draught, no?
>>341713348
Except he's right, once this shit was added to the game people have been leaving by the millions.
>>341709271
I recently played through the extension (Was 2 zones total, just breezed through it), and I honestly liked it.
There was a few quality quests, and they were pretty original (Like that quest where you play different characters telling their story). To me, it was a pretty refreshing experience.
Yeah, the whole "Become a kung-fu master" and the general theme was utterly stupid, but it was also a nice change from the super serious setting.
I think one or two regions like that would have been enough for the refreshing vibe. Making an entire expansion centered around kung-fu, pandas, and alcoholic zen attitude was a big mistake though.
>>341713776
I don't think that's what anon was getting at.The guy said that Wrath was the best expansion since BC, then said that any expansion with DF was shit, immediately contradicting himself.
>>341713761
>7 zones of snow
>Objectively wrong
Stopped reading there.
You have no idea what you're saying.
MoP Leveling;
>Spam aoe, rush through content
MoP Story;
>"Slow down" every time you turn in a quest. Ruins the mood. Slow down.
MoP Dailies;
>Literally a day job with as many as there were. Slow down.
Mogushan Vaults;
>TOO MUCH FUCKING TALKING. Slow down.
Heart of Fear;
>Interesting concept, way too short
Terrace of Endless Springs;
>Fun and quick. Heroic was actually kind of hard. Slow down.
Biggest demerit;
>Pandaren. Slow down.
I took a well-deserved break when MoP hit. I was in the beta, and I saw how absolutely shit it was. I came back for Throne of Thunder though, because that was ALMOST as good as Ulduar. Hell, despite the piss poor story, Siege of Orgrimmar was good. Everything that built up to MoP content, excluding Throne of Thunder? Garbage. Sure, it all made sense, but the big bad in the expansion that we were PROMISED to be Alliance vs Horde was literally "muh feelings". You're fighting god damned EMOTIONS in physical form. They looked cool, but that's it. The Sha were the absolute worst enemies since Octo-Deathwing.
Mists was terrible. It could have been good, as evident by Throne of Thunder and a few choice raid encounters, and even a few locations were nice, but the expansion didn't feel like Warcraft until the Krasarang changes and Jaina getting ten periods per second at the Isle of Thunder.
>>341713776
m8 take a guess what expac dungeon finder was introduced.
>>341713961
>implying Grizzly Hills, Howling Fjord, and Sholozar Basin are chock-full of snow
Alright, Anon.
>>341713905
>>341714054
Eh, Wrath wasn't built upon the Dungeon Finder though, unlike Cataclysm, which was destroyed by it most poeple quit before they ever even touched a raid because of the cancer that was dungeon finder
>>341714149
>Including Sholazar when I clearly excluded Sholazar
Again, you have no idea what you're saying. You're also grasping for some serious straws to excuse a lot of shitty decisions.
>removing talent trees
Fuck that noise.
>>341714731
Talent Jenga is the future.
>>341714416
Unless you're counting zones that have small patches of snow alongside a majority of some other type of environment, you still literally cannot count.
Even if you believe me to grasping at straws, you are completely dismissing the overwhelmingly positive portions of the expansion.
>>341714842
Like what? Decent quests, and two raids that were good? Because outside of that, the entire expansion was
>Log on
>Do daily quests
>Run daily Heroic
>Run weekly raid boss
>Farm materials for raid
>Maybe do Wintergrasp if you like PVP
>Wait for raid time
>know deep within me that Legion will be just as bad, if not worse, than WoD, and continue the terminal downward spiral that WoW has found itself in
>I preordered it anyway, against my better judgement
I want to get off this wild ride.
I'm going through Pandaria again because I'm leveling my druid up. I'm surprised how much I remembered and enjoyed from this expansion.
>easily the best writing the game has seen. has both storied content and aimless yet fun bullshitting
>not a slipshod of random events like cataclysm. contained on a single continent yet still varied.
>introduced cool races, like the sha, the yaungol. and the mogu.
>reignited the horde and alliance conflict that every other expansion seems to downplay
The pandas may seem a bit absurd and a little over the top, but there was a lot to like about this expansion, excluding lack of difficulty and content.
>>341715037
lmao what did you even do in wow before half of that shit was implemented? this is what i don't get about all these vanilla faggots on here.
no daily quests
no dedicated pvp zone
no heroics
you log on, grind monsters for gold, go to raid, and then sit around. there was nothing else to do besides farm mats, gold, or battlegrounds
>>341715380
There wasn't, but it took longer to accomplish those few things. Before you could even raid, you'd need dungeon gear, and a Scholomance or Stratholme would be a few hours at least, if the groups even completed the dungeon.
>>341711082
>b-but this one final fight that was released a year into the expansion was good!
completely irrelevant. by that point the damage was already done.
>shit artstyle
>annoying and infantile attempts at 'humor' everywhere
>entire continent filled to the brim with nothing but not-china shit
>furrybait pandashits everywhere
>all 5mans and heroics are laughably easy, and as a result completely unengaging
>raid finder for every single raid
>mandatory dailies that are necessary for gear progression all over the place
it was fucking garbage.
cataclysm had a strong release and then went down the drain with their later shit patches.
mists was shitty from the beginning. a few good raids being added later can't make up for all the garbage design decisions made during development.
>>341710442
>Early MoP was the peak of WoW
>t. Cuck who started playing during Cata.
Well, time to resub.
>>341712286
>great dungeons , great raids
wrath dungeons were undertuned and shitty from the beginning.
wrath raids were not particularly good either.
naxx was a lazy rehash and absurdly undertuned, ToC was lazy filler garbage. ICC was mediocre. ulduar was truly great, but one great raid doesn't balance out one mediocre and two bad ones.
>>341715731
Khadgar was literally the only good thing to come out of WoD.
>>341712136
>Retconning their own story mid-expansion
what happened
>>341715778
There's an entire questline throughout ICC telling the story about how Arthas cut out his heart, and threw it away, shedding the last of his humanity, and showing that Arthas was dead, and he was just The Lich King now.
Then after we beat Arthas, he reverts back to his old self, and speaks to the soul of his father, showing remorse for his actions.
>>341715759
Does demon hunter class finally give elves the titties they had in wc3?
>>341715037
Daily quests were interesting and usually pretty unique. Even the fucking vehicle/mount dailies were interesting at first. Of course they got stale after a while--they're fucking daily quests. Quel'Danas got stale after a while, too.
Further heroics could be farmed for either 1) Badges to be used to purchase gear upgrades, 2) Reputation, 3) Mats (like Frozen Orbs) for professions, 4) Gear, if that was still a concern for your character. Not to mention heroics could typically be a pretty enjoyable experiences all their own.
And there were numerous weekly raids with only 1 or a few bosses/minimal trash. For some reason, you're complaining about more content? This expansion had more "weekly raid boss"es than any other expansion, iirc. It offered more to do to raiders not currently wrapped up with their guilds in the expansion's main raids.
Farm materials? This is something that was done pretty readily by all raiders up until Cata. Pinning this as one of the "only things to do" seems to be pretty daft.
Wintergrasp was a legitimately fun outdoor PvP environment that introduced siege warfare and benefited not only PvP players but also PvE players by incentivizing victory for them too--giving the winners 4-hour access to a fun and rewarding raid.
There was a lot of content. The drought was a bitch, I agree, and could have been avoided if Blizzard had spaced things out more deliberately (3 months for Ulduar is still horseshit) but the amount of content this expansion had was massive compared to most expansions. Only Cata rivals it, and that's only because of the revamps of old zones (realistically, making Cata eclipse it, but hardly any of this content was relevant to end-game players, so it's a moot point).
MoP was great, but so many people refused to play because muh kiddie kung fi pandas.
MoP had by far the best leveling and questing experience at which i was pleasantly surprised, and the story telling was great if a little lighthearted, but lighthearted doesn't have to mean bad or childish.
The dungeons were fun, and the challenge dungeons really shined.
The Raiding was amazing, in both design and lore. Which again i was surprised by because the Thunder king had the best lore that didn't rely on the previous games. SOO was great even if it got a little stale, but that's the case at the end of all expansions, tho i didn't like the idea of Garrosh being the villain, but it did lead up to it nicely.
The timeless isle was the most fun and fresh thing they added, with fun mobs, puzzles and mount drops/rare farming, also the ability to gank your faction.
Temple of Kotmogu was a very fun battleground.
The scenarios were a fun and easy way to breeze trough some parts of the story.
Battlefield Barrens kind of sucked.
The talents were too simplistic, and rarely did your choice define how you play, and even if it did Blizz switched it around so there was no clear winner again.
The area design was gorgeous, and Blizz had the guts to change how a zone looks in the last patch, from in idyllic autumn autumn vale, to an old god infested one.
Oh, and me and a couple of friends used two... i wouldn't call them exploits, rather fun things that happen if you have enough latancy.
Fly into the Alliance hub, and get up above the shrine on the inside and chill there, occasionally poking people in line of sight, challenging them to come up and fight.
And that one where you can get passed the invisible wall and be between it and that Mogu statue having tens of players try to hit us, but they couldn't
>>341709271
This was literally the last nail to the coffin.
>>341709271
content wise, it was the best
the main storyline was shit, tho
I feel like everything since WotLK has been filler and Legion finally does something important.
>>341712520
give me the full clip!
10/10 will buy again
>>341717112
why does the Boomkin model have raccoon tails on medallions on it anyway
>>341716836
>Vanilla - preestablished with Warcraft games
>TBC - continueing from Warcraft 3's story line
>WotLK - hey remember Arthas? well he's back now
>Cata -Deathwing out of nowhere
>MoP -Pandas out of nowhere
>WoD -time ttavel out of nowhere
>Legion -hey, remember the Burning Legion? well they're back now
>>341712020
Deer god, Night Elves are delicious.
>>341715591
>>b-but this one final fight
Holy shit kids he didn't do ToT either.
>>341709271
The true standard from a long veteran that played through everything (unfortunately):
Classic>BC>WotLK=MoP
Wrath went to shit once the Argent Tournament came out, I think this was when Activision claimed them too. Argent Tourny was a crappy excuse for a tier, it should have been added onto Ulduar's tier to improve progression, and ICC was a letdown. The drought sucked dick, Ruby Sanctum was a joke filler compared to BC's drought filler - Sunwell. At least they tried.
MoP was okay in the beginning, had some big flaws, but got really spectacular for IoT/ToT and Timeless Isle/SoO. Scenarios were a fun pass time that for some reason made people pissy, even though they were mostly reused assets. They were pretty good for a step on the ladder of content too: hit 90, do scenarios, do dungeons, raid. It was shitty of them to continue making "scenarios", but not spending time to make them queue-able, but instead casting them aside as a one time quest. What a waste.
MoP challenge modes were much more well tuned than WoD's and had way better rewards. Pet battles were pretty retarded. PvP got a few new battlegrounds that were actually really fun, and classes were better tuned than usual which made for some of the best PvP the game has seen. The Warlock class quest was really well made and gave a lot of people faith in the future of the game (then they fired the guy who made it). Monks had amazing lore and all three specs had a unique playstyle that really worked, shit they ruined in WoD. The drought really hurt the expansion as a whole, but it was a good expansion. The good outweighed the bad which I can't say for Cata or WoD.
Just in case Arthas wasn't edgy enough for you.
>>341717660
>and ICC was a letdown
opinion discarded. my guild was working on heroic two weeks after release, and it was some of the most fun we had in a long time. all the fights felt solid and challenging(minus lootship)
you're right about ruby and toc; both were ass raids. I'm pretty sure they threw ruby at us, just so they could finish working on cata in peace.
Oh yeah, it sure had some tough competition in that regard.
>my shit is better than your diarrhea
>>341716836
I feel that Legion's new target audience is Facebook gamers who saw the new movie and want to try out WoW.
Hell, a year of no content in a game with monthly fee they release "Facebook integration" as content. Now you can log in with your Facebook account!
>>341716715
>Content wise it was the best
>Daily quests: the expansion
>>341717742
pretty much every dk tier looks edgy
>>341717246
Goddamn, I never stopped to consider this...
>>341717742
Its the fuycking pose of the player model that makes all teh armours look like absoloute shit. Its such an awkward looking stiff stance that doesnt complement the edge at all, its like some dweeby kid wearing biker gear but stands with a stiff back for his mom to take a photo
>>341709271
No, I "missed out" on it, because Cataclysm killed my drive for WoW
>>341720494
Yeah, Lich King's pose was at least more imposing than FUCKING NOTHING
>>341716231
i mean blizzard has become fully cucked at this point, somebody will probably get offended and send in a letter than their 3 year old autistic child had a seizure because of the game and they will dress female demon hunters in burkas.
>>341715731
Have a more readable version
>>341712136
>Welfare epics introduced
I'm pretty sure this happened during TBC's content patches
>>341720925
Fuck the dance studio, I wish blizzard would give us animation options.
>Tfw I want to play a human rogue that is hunched over like the human rogues in deadmines.
>>341720925
It's cool once and then he appears as a cartoon villain in most dungeons and quest zones and those same 5 animations become comical.
>>341723250
Welfare gear wasn't that bad in BC, even when they introduced T6 badge gear it costed so fucking much that if you weren't running karazhan, BT and hyjal every week you weren't getting shit, you would at most get maybe 2 peices by the time WOTLK hit.
Oh boy can't wait for the WoD apologists to come out of the woodworks when Legion comes out.
>>341709271
How can it be the best expansion for someone who hates kung fu panda though. Literally impossible to enjoy the pretend chink shit and pandas.
>>341723529
WoD was great for a returning player like myself.
Make millions of gold, level all classes to max, catch up on everything Wrath to MoP.
I guess it wasn't all that great for someone that did all of that during MoP drought. Good 2 years to take a break then.
