Which one did you pick, /v/?
>>341708083
So deep. Can't believe I haven't played this yet.
Cage, obviously. Only cucks fall for bird meme.
>>341708083
The bird because I don't believe in free will.
>>341708083
Neither. Never got that far.
>>341708083
>Pick the cage
>No reaction at all
What was even the point of the scene?
>>341708083
I was genuinely so bored of Infinite I sold it before reaching this point. Watched a let's play to see if I'd missed anything. I made the only right choice.
>>341708380
I don't understand either. This did literally nothing to the story.
does it even have an effect which you choose?
>>341708380
The point is that there is no point. That's literally how pretentious it was.
WOW CHOOSE BETWEEN A BIRD AND A CAGE THIS WAS TRULY SOME OF THE MOST SUBTLE AND DEEP SYMBOLISM I HAVE EVER SEEN
>>341708758No.
>>341708380
>>341708623
>>341708758
>>341708839
>people who didn't understand the game
>>341708930
>le deep game meme
I want underages to leave
>>341708930
you have the floor. go ahead and explain it to the rest of us rubes then
>>341708083
I picked Elizabeth.
>>341708083
>someone got paid for this
>>341708083
cage because it's symmetrical
also the game is complete trash in every possible way
>>341708380
The point of that scene was supposed to be had once you beat the game and get to that same point again.
The point in that selection is that in the predetermined world where you have 0 choice, your selection doesn't matter.
>>341708930
>people who didn't understand the game either, but pretend they did just in case
>>341708758
it doesn't matter which one you pick as long you notice that the elizabeth at the end of the game isn't wearing whichever one you pick out, but of course booker/comstock says something anyways alerting the player making the choice even more meaningless.
>The point of all the choices in a game is that the choices don't actually matter
>The ending is 20 minutes of a character speaking in awe-struck tones about how wonderful and clever the story is to a bewildered protagonist
And people wonder why people thought this shit was pretentious.
>>341709064
>>341709040
It's not even deep at all. It's blatantly stated in the end of the game.
It plays off the themes from Bioshock 1 and Bioshock 2. The concept that as a player in a game, your choices affect the ending. Infinite turns that around. The bank scene, the cage/bird, several other choices in the game make you think that you're going to affect the ending but you don't. It's tangential to the core theme of the game, that sometimes you just have to accept your reality.
>>341709476
>>341709378
>pretentious
A narrative and story can be shitty without it being pretentious you know. All the choices had a specific and relatively direct meaning.
>>341709695
Saying I understand the story and the themes in the game doesn't even mean I like the game. Just that it's ridiculous that people here don't understand what the game was going for.
>>341708083
How she offers the bird cage with the hand where she is missing the finger to remind the player that she was once enslaved in a cage too, with that face that tries to say "please make the right choice, we both know which it is but I just really need to be able to trust you and this is the final test" kind of bullshit god this game is so fucking underage my braincells are degrading.
>>341709695
oh boy a .jpg as an arguement!
You're fucking stupid.
>>341708226
The puzzles might be too much for you to handle, though.
>>341708083
Cage
>>341708083
It doesn't matter. Nothing changes.
>>341709959
But the bird isn't even the "right" choice
The Bird was her enslaver. The Cage or C-A-G-E ended up being the sequence of notes that allowed her to be free.
>>341709737
But Bioshock was shitty AND pretentious.
I picked the words I did purposefully, anon.
Guys, help me out with this one
>>341708083
Does it actually matter?
Since it's all about aesthetics birds of course. Cage is a terrible heraldic motive, unless you are into BDSM. A tower would've symbolised it better, also because lighthouses are basically towers and so deep.
>>341708083
Cage, that's what my little bird needs.
>>341709990
You should learn to spell 'argument' before calling other people stupid in one.
>>341710153
It's not that pretentious, it's rather direct and straight forward.
>>341709959
How do you even overthink something so much? She simply wanted to know which piece of jewelry you liked more.THE CAGE REPRESENTS SELF-CONTROL. THE BIRD IS DEAD BECAUSE IT FLEW TOO CLOSE TO THE SUN.
>>341710153
Ok then, can you at least provide a reason for why you think Bioshock Infinite is pretentious? In your own words?
That is to describe something in the game that was only put there to seem more complex than it really is and doesn't contribute to the themes presented throughout.
>>341710203
You need a kinect to solve that one. You have to throw gang signs that resemble the pictures in the parchment in the correct order.
>>341708083
>sex her
>find out she is your daughter from a parallel universe
wat do?
>>341708083
The one that has less 'times that Booker went with X instead of Y'.
When Booker came to a set of two open boxes, he chose the one with a cage design.
>>341710203
analyze the tapes, you might have to slow down the audio. you should have carefully examined booker's box at the start of the game too. this game might be too intellectual for you though.
>>341708930
i understood it, it was just stupid
>>341710310
do what? its the best thing happened in your life
For the record, this choices only purpose is so you might notice the Elizebeth later in the game is different from the one you start with.
Thats it. Make of it what you will, but thats the purpose.I actually like the idea of a seamingly pointless choice existing for a switcharoo later, but like everything in Infinite It could have been done a lot better
>>341710146
Reversed symbolism out of my ass, this is pants on the head retarded. Now it sucks the creativity out of me too, whats next?
>>341710203
>>341709695
>too much of a fucking dunce to understand quantum mechanics
What sort of asshat would say this? Quantum mechanics are hardly understood by our best scientists.
Of course, Levine could have done more research on QM other than just reading the wikipedia page, but come on. Nobody is "too much of a fucking dunce" for not understanding the most complicated and contrived aspect of physics.
>>341710203
Literally impossible, just look up a guide online, it'll save you a lot of time.
>>341710207
And the bird seems to be dead, both choices are bad symbolically but the cage at least looks nice.
>>341710364
Booker's box, you say?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXqRr2MJwZo
>>341710438
but daughters are for loving, not for fugging
>>341710203
Ring the leftmost bell once, the middle bell twice, then the right bell twice. In that order.
>>341710310
>from a parallel universe
nope, she's your daughter that you sold away to your alternate self.
>>341710490
...what the fuck are you saying
It was obvious that this is what the developers intended or else they would have picked a different set of notes in the end. I don't even like the game but wow at least have a valid reason to hate a game.
>>341710153
Pretentious is not just being ambiguous or convoluted. It's about being self-important. It's about Infinite wanting to be seen as something more than just a video game by taking ridiculous subject matter like systematic classism and racism, religious zealotry and American exceptionalism and using them as useless background noise for a mediocre as fuck shooter that decides to sweep them as soon as Ghost Mom shows up to be about stupid, convoluted time travel and "quantum physics," as the developers understood them.
You don't understand what pretentious means if you think it's just referring to shitty abstract arthouse projects.
>>341710518
That bird is fucking adorable.
>>341710359
>oh boy a .jpg as an arguement!
>You're fucking stupid.
>>341710661
Meant for >>341710270
>>341710569
you have more than one daughter but still same person, fuck one is allright... or maybe threesome with them.
>>341710294
>That is to describe something in the game that was only put there to seem more complex than it really is and doesn't contribute to the themes presented throughout.
But that's not what pretentious means at all.
>>341710203
wait a minute that card
>>341709737
the setting of columbia itself had nothing to do with the game. probably the dumbest exploration of nationalism, racial conflict, etc i've ever seen in a game, a totally half-assed and superficial attempt, it did absolutely nothing with it
>>341710852
>flying city
>no inclement weather
>no segment where a building is falling with you in it
>falling off the cliff just teleports you back
Columbia could have just been a city on a mountain and the game would be unaffected.
>>341710203
Is this the best puzzle in video game history? I was literally crying once I completed it.
>>341708380
A terrible way to express a message about freedom
The real question you should be asking is why someone would decorate a broach with an empty birdcage.
>>341710567
>wounded knee is a skyrim joke
Even if they aren't being serious, this still causes me rage
>>341710518
Post more bird please
>>341708380
That your choices don't matter :^)
>>341710852
Columbia was weak as a background but it was meant to reverse the role of the setting as played by Bioshock 1 and 2. That instead of playing after the event, you're playing before it. The racial conflict was just there to replicate another divisive event that would lead to downfall like it did in Rapture.
The exploration of capitalism and objectivism wasn't the main theme of BS1 either.
>first 20 minutes
>guys check this out, a FLOATING CITY
>you're actually in the motherfucking sky and people live up here wow isn't this cool????
rest of the game is only going outside for a minute to take a skyrail to the next indoor level
>>341710518
>>341711056
Crows are best birds
>>341711143
But most of the levels have a pretty equal amount of indoors and outdoors.
>>341708083
>bird symbolizes freedom
>cage symbolizes imprisonment
>>341710837
The other anon describes a pretense of complexity of depth. Pretentious means to project or infer a pretence. He is correct. Infinite was pretentious.
The only point of this shit was every time you jump into a new tear to a different timepline her broach changes. I don't know why either. It's just fucking stupid
>>341710567
grade a troll
>>341711224
it's an empty cage
and the bird is falling
>people explicitly saying "was there a point?"
>gets called out
>I UNDERSTOOD OK, IT WAS JUST PRETENTIOUS
I mean... Infinite is a shit game but damn people here are idiots
>>341711224
>bird is dead
>cage ends up being a plot point about Elizabeth controlling Songbird and unlocking her powers
>>341710294
The entirety of Columbia as this turn of the 20th century model of American exceptionalism and bigotry has absolutely nothing to do with the "themes" you think the story is about.
Featuring something in your work doesn't make your work about it. There's something to say about the retardation associated with the game accidentally implying that brutally oppressing racial minorities and the poor is okay because they might rape, pillage, and plunder everything you hold dear if you don't in an attempt to hold a self-smug apolitical stance on a society that has systematically oppressed entire groups of people for generations being set ablaze by overzealous revolutionaries.
>THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMSTOCK AND FITZROY IS HOW YOU SPELL THE NAME
>>341711194
do you have one where they're playing in the snow?
>>341711337
>bird is dead
>cage goes on to make a really shitty "game" with famous actors
bird is the right choice after all
>>341708083
Well?Both choices are equally pointless
>>341711440
And now I want a bird. Thanks /v/
>>341711440
Damn that's cute.
>>341711431
>Featuring something in your work doesn't make your work about it.
That kind of justifies the events that transpired in Columbia
The themes centered within the game were never about what was actually happening in Columbia just as the themes in the previous games were never about what actually happened in Rapture.
>>341710569
why do you have to choose one or the other
>>341710636
You do know how symbolism works, do you?
The guy who wrote that scene thought he is hot stuff because his game breaks out of the conformity of symbolism as we know it and tries to reinvent and project it onto the game akin to "look what we have done" the cage is now freedom and the bird is now the enslave. Shit this is so 12 years old if you dont understand it I cant help .
>>341711535
>>341711535
Blue. The only people that don't want to control the most powerful force in the galaxy are cucks.
>>341711671
So you do understand that this is exactly what the developers intended. What's the problem that you have then?
>>341711605
>The themes centered within the game were never about what was actually happening in Columbia
...Which is exactly what I just said. Which is a response to:
>describe something in the game that was only put there to seem more complex than it really is and doesn't contribute to the themes presented throughout.
>>341711141
>The exploration of capitalism and objectivism wasn't the main theme of BS1 either.
no, but the entire setting/story was cohesive and fleshed out. infinite doesn't come even close: the first half barely touches it (when it does it does a terrible job) and the entire thing is dropped halfway through for ghost mom fights and wacky time travel shenanigans
base ideas were ok but execution was terrible
>>341708380
>>341708623
>>341709378
>>341709959
>>341710103
>>341710490
>>341711671
I feel like i'm in the wrong for disliking Bioshock Infinite if these are the people who also dislike it
>>341711758
>The developers intended it to be a pretentious barely cohesive piece of masturbatory fan fiction, so there's no problem.
You what?
>>341711959
I feel completely justified in disliking it because you have that opinion.
And this is just talking about story, since that's all people want to talk about because the completely mediocre, pared back frankenstein garbage of a shooter that you play is indefensible. Except maybe the skyrails.
>>341710518
I bet that eagle could solve the bell puzzle.
>>341711440
I got you
>>341712050
>pretentious
if reverse symbolism is something 12 year olds can understand, how is it pretentious?
>>341708305
but a cage is literally the symbol of the cuck
>>341712260
Not even the guy you're talking with, but why do people think that "pretentious" means "hard to understand"?
Those two things have nothing to do with each other.
Greaaaat, I love meaningless choices in my games. What a fuckfest.
>>341712187
What opinion? I feel like people who dislike a game should at least understand the choices that the game developers made.
>>341712187
>Skyrails were good
They were literally implemented better in Sonic Adventure 2, when the developers were sensible enough to just treat them as another part of the game, like fucking springs or baddies, rather than a fucking selling point.
>>341712260
It's pretentious when you act like you're a genius for writing things 12 year olds understand you fucking retarded 12 year old
A better game
>>341712362
The opinion that no body but you understands it.
>>341712410
>act like you're a genius
where do the developers act like this
>>341712260
Because of its pretense of depth and complexity.
Its pretentious because it pretends to be more than it is. It creates pretense.
Are you retarded?
>>341708083
She was wearing the bird in Burial at Sea so the bird is cannon, senpai.
>>341712365
I don't defend using them as a selling point, because there are what? Like 5 instances of them actually being available in combat? But the combat arenas that they are around in are much more fun that the stupid corridor shooting that makes up the rest of the game.
>>341712503
dude racism lmao
>>341708380
in case you dumb bastards dont even play the game, ill tell you. first off we all know bioshock is a game where narrative is told through player interaction, wether its voxophones or talking to characters instead of long ass cutscenes talking you through it. as with the other bioshocks, the game drops little hints through this form of exposition. because elizabeth was designed with the intention of being a mary sue, youre supposed to grow attached and really pay attention to her. anyway, whichever you choose, toward the end scenes youre supposed to notice that there are multiple elizabeths. instead of telling you this outright, youre supposed to notice shes wearing the opposite brooch you chose. therefore inderectly showing you this was not the elizabeth you were interacting with. if youre going to have a hobby, at least be good at it and pay attention you faggot
>>341708380
It's to create the appearance of nonlinearity. Normalshits who play this game would have forgotten that scene took place by the end of the game so they wouldn't realize it didn't matter what choice they made.
>>341711758
there is. people are praising it as second coming of jesus and beeing a deep game. its not, he is trying too hard beeing revolutionary and shaking at the already established symbolism its pathetic. Thats all, I think its shit I said its shit and here you are protecting it.
>>341712503
>time travel quantum mechanics xDD shoutout to /r/Futurology
>>341712505
>pretends to be more than it is
BUT IT DOESN'T
Jesusssss christ. The developers made a direct intended choice for the Bird to be the "wrong" choice because the song in the end used C-A-G-E as the notes. There is no pretending to be more than it is because that's all that there is. That's it!
>>341712503
unnnff ohh my lighthouse
Uuuuuuunnnnfff my INFINOTE lighthouses
uuuuuuuuuunnnffff my illusion of choice
OH YEAH, TAKE IT PLAYER, SWALLOW IT ALL AND BUY OUR DLC
I'm sorry if you enjoy being a whore, we found it degrading.
>>341712697
>If you listen carefully to the notes of the miusoc, you'll see the truth of our deep narrative.
How is this an argument about it NOT being pretentious again?
Are you just baiting?
>>341712651
>people are praising it as second coming of jesus
so you only care because other people like it?
Guys. Who the hell cares about the game.
Where are the fucking cute bird gifs?
>>341712908
>People like Infinite
What is this absurd memery?
>>341712420
what will you do?
>>341710034
Especially the one with that card.
>>341712505
>Because of its pretense of depth and complexity.
Does it do this anywhere? All I see is a mildly interesting concept where your preconceived notions are challenged and the opposite answer is "right".
Does the game fellate itself about it somewhere? Not really. The devs? I don't think so. I'm no fan of the game but this is no reason to hate it.
>>341708083
>not spreading her fingers wider for better grip on hand with less fingers
0/10 would not be immersed
>>341712894
It's not pretentious because the choice has a very specific and very simple callback with no ulterior motive.
It's not complex, it's not complicated, it doesn't pretend to be something more than it is, and it isn't self-important or obtuse. It's not pretentious.
>>341713057
I'LL STEAL IT, no one will ever know.
>>341711194
Any games featuring crows?
>>341712697
As someone who detests the game, that's actually not it because they wax on about the duality of the bird and cage motif near the end. You can willingly block that part out of your memory if you want, but it's in the game.
C-A-G-E are the notes she uses to control the bird which then did all the heavy lifting to help her escape. It was supposed to be about perception.
>>341708083
>>341708380
I'm more put off by the fact that there is even a cage brooch
Birds are pretty and a bird inset on a brooch is a logical and sound design choice.
but who the fuck is going to think "damn that picture of an empty bird cage looks so nice I think I'll wear it"
>>341713085
It does this throughout the game, not simply on the false brooch choice. I'm really baffled that you can't see it, bhut I guess the game's bullshit had to be marketed at some idiot or other.
none
>>341712420
CONFOUND THOSE JOESTAR BOYS
>>341713132
>Choice is a lie, you silly gamer, tee her her aren't we clever? is not pretentious
OK, here's my last (You).
>>341712908
I only care because the construct is blatantly shit and someone is trying to argue against it.
>bioshock thread
>no elizabeth lewds
>not even cropped and spoilered ones
you faggots are gay
>>341711194
>Crows are best birds
That's not how you spell south african owl.
>>341713236
But it's all in service to some intellectual stuff rarely explored in games!
>>341713403
They aren't clever, you're just a retard
>>341711440
>mfw
thats it im done. /v/ is the least knowledgable board about its own subject. thats why you manchildren will never be taken seriously in life or as a group by society. i literally just explained this sequence to you faggots. did you even pay attention while you played or were you just so jaded and going through thr motions? FUCK IM MAD
>>341712632
>>341713219
Well yeah that's why wrong is in quotation marks.
>>341713547
>They aren't clever
No, they pretend to be.
Ergo, a pretense.
Ergo, pretentious.
You silly little Muppet.
>>341713721
>OK, here's my last (You).
>b-but im not that other anon
>>341713636
And that's why I disagreed with you because the bird is just as valid because without Songbird, they would have never been able to escape.
>>341713721
You can't "pretend to be clever" via the narrative. You can pretend to be clever in many, MANY ways, but not through the narrative of a video game.
>>341713787
I'm saying the quotation marks imply that it's not really wrong along with it not really being right either. I'm not disagreeing with you.
>>341713765
Oh, you're right. Go on then, have the last word.
>>341713859
...
Why am I arguing with children?
>>341713957
Because you are a child, apparently. What kind of rebuttal was that?
>>341713632
>Bioshock infinite is for intellectual gamers, such as myself
>people in this thread literally ask what was the point of the scene
i'm starting to feel like maybe Infinite really was too smart for people
>>341713490
Owls are creepy little shits.
>>341713874
So by agreeing with me that "wrong" and "right' are invalid terms because it was just supposed to be a dumb exploration of perception, you're agreeing that a statement like:
>The developers made a direct intended choice for the Bird to be the "wrong" choice because the song in the end used C-A-G-E as the notes.
Is dumb, right? Because that's what I'm saying because the implication that the dumb brooch choice was all about being a GOTCHA! moment, completely missed an easy-to-see point.
>>341708380
It was a metaphor for no matter what you did, nothing changes
>>341714109
That statement agrees with you though
>>341714037
Ken Levine, please
>>341714109
>wrong and right are invalid terms
yes that's why wrong is in quotation marks
>>341708083
Bird.
I guess it seemed nicer.
>>341708509
>Stopped playing a game less than a few hours in.
>Watched a let's play.
What's it like being a 12 year old with ADD?
>>341714182
No, it doesn't. The Cage is the equally "wrong" choice. It doesn't matter which one you pick.
>>341709152
>cage because it's symmetrical
this
>>341714310
>I used this term because it doesn't apply in any capacity
???
How can it be a direct intended choice to do the opposite of the stated direct intended choice?
>>341713282
What is she looking at?
>>341713632
>The only reason for the thing was the most literal, obvious plot-related thing! Why are you all so fucking stupid!?
Your post is really ironic.
>>341711194
must've been a very tasty snack
>>341712231
>>341711440
What are the biological and evolutionary merits of "having fun"?
>>341714392
>>341714498
Maybe you're not American or something is lost in translation here. The quotation marks don't signify that I think it's definitely the wrong choice or else I wouldn't include them at all.
The quotation marks work almost like sarcasm in a manner. That it is commonly considered wrong or right and I want to address it as it it is commonly addressed but I personally don't see it that way.
>>341710567
B-B-B-B-B-BAZINGA!
>>341711535
Red.
Because it's my favourite colour :3
>>341711710
>Running the risk of them breaking free and also making it so you aren't the most powerful force in the galaxy
Nah, you're the cuck.
>>341708380
It was meant to be representative of the game itself: Pointless and not fun.
>>341714727
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play_(activity)#Play_and_animals
>>341714498
I'm >>341714801
I think an easier way to picture it is as if I was literally doing air quotes.
>>341709476
Ive never seen someone try this hard
>>341714996
What's the evolutionary benefit of rolling around in the snow and playing with a paper towel?
>>341714727
>What are the biological and evolutionary merits of "having fun"?
Mostly training yourself.
>>341714996
Dogs are a bad example to use, since they are basically retarded wolves, who never outgrew their whelp stage.
>>341715210
Animals randomly find that doing certain activities that in some way simulate real life situations release chemicals that stimulate their brains, so they learn to do those activities.
>>341710567
Where I can upvote this game?
>>341713173Dank Souls 3 :^)
Elizabeth had a punchable face and wasn't likeable at all
>>341715210
Not every trait needs to be evolutionary beneficial. They may simply be unintended consequences of other evolutionary beneficial traits.
For example, sex feels good. That's obviously evolutionary beneficial because it's a part of what makes you want to procreate. Humans also developed hands as they are now. Now you can combine those two things and masturbate. Does this mean that masturbation is necessarily evolutionary beneficial? No. It could have no benefits, but no disadvantages either.
>>341713173
Dark Souls series
Portal 2
>>341715678
Gay detected.
>>341715678
This.
Fucking finger amputee.
>>341715704
At this point evolution is irrelevant.
The weak, sickly and stupid have polluted the gene pool so evolution has nothing to work with.
If anything we'll start regressing.
Poor Neanderthals, they were the superior species; just at the wrong place at the wrong time.
RIP
>>341710518
How is this supposed to be "intelligent"?
Every human with half a brain can solve this puzzle and still gets called dumb as rocks for not being able to solve Taylor equations.
>>341709695
>TIMEY WIMEY WIBBLY WOBBLY bullshit
But I like Doctor Who.
>>341716667
>human =/= bird
You idiot.
>>341710518
Oh wow a bird with autism.
>We hate it because of the mass unwarranted praise it got
Jesus christ. It's not a great game, but pretending that the game is sneering at you like a pretentious pompous school boy is making you look like even more of a fool. The GAME is not pretentious. The 10/10 articles? Game of the year articles? THOSE are.
>>341709476
>as a player in a game, your choices affect the ending. Infinite turns that around.
>>341716756
kys you speciecist shitlord
>>341717114
>kys
You better leave now, you underage faggot.
>>341716883
Get out of here Levine you hack.
>it's not a great game
No, it's bland as shit with onrails hand holding and bland weapons/powers. Don't try to stick the media on the reason it isn't praised by people with a clue.
>>341717160
kys you cynical toddler
>>341708083
The choice seemed too hard. I thought that it was spec ops: the line situation and quit. As a side note, anyone else noticed that the true solution to spec ops dilemma is the same as with every other shitty game: not playing it?
>>341711535
I went with rejection. We failed. The next cycle will find a real solution using Liara's data cache.
>>341717302
>No, it's bland as shit with onrails hand holding and bland weapons/powers
I said it wasn't great you shit stain. I know this already.
It's ironic that you're actually being pretentious now, with that whole "people with a clue" bullshit you just gave me. Just how "redpilled" are you on vidya dude? I'm glad /v/ is filled with intellectuals like you, and not mindless sheeple!
Get a grip. If you want to dislike something, for all means, have your fun. But don't get so defensive when we call you out for having poorly thought out reasons, you contrarian fuck.
>>341708930
>The bitch lived her whole life being forced to be a hikki
>She ask you to make her wear a symbol of freedom or a symbol of what made her life awful
>She doesn't react at all if you pick the second option
I know you're just baiting but goddamn I'm still mad. I wish that would be so easy with real girls when they ask me to choose something they should wear.
>>341713632
>>341712632
Quite ironic how the only ones defending that crap all have a terrible grammar and anger issues.
Also this is the same game that thinks the player is so dumb it thinks having puzzles like this >>341710203 is fine and uses a QTE prompt in a shooting cutscene instead of making the player just shoot, not even Undertale insulted the player so much in terms of puzzles. So much for a Mature.. just... like... literally me... 10/10 perfect game.
>>341717983
Literally not saying a thing
>>341718432
I ran through Welcome to Rapture again tonight. In comparison the System shock I'm not sure how I feel about the "fixed" melee combat. It's not floaty and awkward with backpedaling but it's braindead mashing the wrench until the splicer dies. Dodging pipe hybrid hits was more fun
>>341717983
Literally not saying anything
Pathetic
>>341708623
That's the point. Choices don't matter since there are infinite possibilities and either outcome is possible.
>>341718432
>>341719845
Do you guys remember the videos of the voice recordings? Where the voice of Elizabeth was crying and that hack talking how deep this character and everything else is going to be?
He must be so embarrassed now.
>>341713551
He just fucking throws the cat, holy shit my sides.
