>Microsoft/Xbox games coming to Steam as some point
Now you guys can stop crying about windows 10. You'll get your Halos, Gears of War and other Xbox exclusives, delivered through Steam.
>MCC/Halo3 with Steamworks support
>Scalebound with Steamworks support
>Forza with Steamworks support
good times
neat, I always thought Phil was lying about "loving steam" but I guess he's going to come through for us.
I actually use W10 already, I just refuse to use its store.
>>341708017
>You'll get your Halos, Gears of War... delivered through Steam
If you watched the interview with him, you'd know that he basically also explicitly said that that wouldn't happen.
>>341708017
>>MCC/Halo3 with Steamworks support
>>Scalebound with Steamworks support
>>Forza with Steamworks support
>good times
those titles arent coming to steam. windows will just dump their indie trash on steam
He's talking about Dead Rising 4, Ryse, and Tomb Raider you tards
>>341708948
Rise of the Tomb Raider is already on steam, so is Ryse.
I don't want to play those even on a platform I already own.
>>341708745
>>341708796
the fact that microsoft is open to using steam creates a possibility. of course this is only an assumption, but you never know.
Why does Microsoft not just give up on the console business
Nobody gives a shit about the XBoner and it's just hilariously outsold by the PS4. An "upgrade" mid-gen isn't going to magically push 30mil units
>>341708017
But I would still need to downgrade to win10 which is not happening
I'll just wait for the crackers to change the "win10required=1" line to "win10required=0" and never pay for any win10 game
>>341708017
Dont care, not a single modern MS game runs well on PC. Some are literally unplayable under certain set ups.
Not to mention most the games are just rubbish. Goes to show how much the Xbone and MS is behind the times in gaming.
>>341709391
because hardware sales are still better than nintendo
>>341709461
you don't know that. they could require 7/8.1 also
>>341708017
quantum break on the windows store is still 69.99
fuck that shit
>>341708231
>Based Phil stopped the "TV SPORTS TV COD" direction the Xbone was taking
>Based Phil added backwords compatibility to Xbone
>Based Phil porting all upcoming Xbone games to PC
>Based Phil will put some of them on Steam
I swear, if he'd have been in charge of the Xbone from the onset, Microsoft would have won this gen already. This is the best turnaround I've ever seen from a console maker.
And before anyone gets started on PC stealing Xbone sales, PC is still a Microsoft platform. Microsoft knows that the key to success is selling games. Consoles are just another way to put games in the hands of people who wouldn't buy a PC.
Mark my words, we're going to see an Xbox with some sort of SteamOS functionality one day in the future.
>>341708017
All those games are shit. Why would I care.
MS is already dead, it just doesnt know it yet.
>>341709706
>we're going to see an Xbox with some sort of SteamOS functionality
Yeah and cows are going to fly too
>>341709706
I think the manufacturers realized PC isn't necesarily in competition with consoles at all.
Steam is too big, it's not going anywhere and it's getting more and more common to have both console and PC (even if the PC is on the weak side).
PS4 and XBO are in competition with each other, not PC.
That's why they both let PC have some of their games, just so long the other console doesn't get them.
>>341709706
>>341709830
maybe not steamOS, but I could see them adding a "steam in-home streaming" app to the xbox store, that would let you stream your steam games to your xbox.
There's still the possibility of it being Win 10 only, considering Steam is split between 7 and 10, so they could just have a warning saying "Win 10 only".
I hope you are right, though. Being forced to use a shitty OS to play a video game is retarded,
>>341709885
Microsoft is porting to PC because they want more win10 exclusives so they can get that ad money from ads in your OS and also spy you and sell that info too. They are also selling the games on their own store so they aren't losing any money over it
will recore come to steam? mildly interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrBLkvJklN8
>>341709706
Fact is, Phil probably will be happy enough as long as people switch to Windows 10. I've been on it since half a year and I'm quite happy about it.
>>341710227
the spying meme needs to end.
I don't want to spark another thread long argument, telling you why your forbes links are wrong, etc but in the release version of W10 you're not being spied on.
Microsoft profits off W10 adoption via app store sales, skype, Office 365 subscriptions and Onedrive subscriptions.
Windows 10 promotes their ecosystem, it also promotes xbox one if you think about it.
The reason the upgrade was free was basically to advertise all these other products, not to sell your personal info.
Please don't reply to this post with 10 links where people think they've found W10 spying on them, I guarantee I've read them.
>>341708017
>Some
I wonder which games get on steam and which are windows store exclusives.
I don't really have an interest in having multiple game launching platforms. Part of the many reasons I won't buy anything on Origin.
>>341710227
>le spy meme again
Linux shill fuck off.
>>341710540
Don't forget Microsoft also intends to kill support for both Vista and 7 as fast as possible. Having people gtfo from both will make it even easier to do it. That's probably a LOT of money gained.
>>341708017
Anyone got a link? I doubt it's as simple as "we're using Steam now".
Windows 10 store isn't nearly as horrible to use as GFWL or Uplay, I didn't mind it.
>>341710770
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong MS is going to profit big time off W10 and they're using some underhanded tactics.
I'm just saying the spying thing keeps getting debunked.
First it was PhotoDNA which got discovered to not even be part of W10.
Then people posting videos of a russian guy proving Windos was taking screenshots and uploading them to Microsoft (the fact that it was pre-release testing version alluded a lot of people).
Then people found Windows was trying to make 5000 connection per hour after they blocked it's access to the internet, not realizing they were blocking date and time syncing and all of those were the OS retrying to connect.
It's by no means a great OS, it's just not what the meme indicates.
>>341710770
This is a fair point: I too believe Microsoft is trying its hardest to drop 7 and Vista, probably even before they've otherwise allowed themselves to do so. I wonder how much money is on the line here, what kind of deals they made.
>>341710643
>>341710401
>>341710540
>actually having a nice thread about MS
>M$ shills come out of the woodwork
Phil here, you're way too obvious. You're fired.
>Mustards are getting saved by fucking Xbox ceo from indieshit and being always left behind on ports
>Soon there will be only sony and ms ecosystem, no console/pc/platform separation like it used to be
>Nintendo is going full JUST
Times are changing
>>341711148
like clockwork, see >>341711079
and again, please don't post a pasta of 10 or more articles saying W10 is spyware, even when I go through each one of them people will keep posting it and the meme will live on.
>>341709283
Doubtful, they'd rather sell the shitty ones on Steam and somehow attempt to push people into Windows store for better titles.
I personally want to stop having a dozen accounts for my games and all of them having their own client. It's getting insanely silly.
>>341709391
Microsoft just decided to kill console gaming all by itself. Having a universal Xbox platform across all of their devices is genius, integrates the PC and casual gaming crowds perfectly, and is supported by the best server architecture in the world.
The question now is wtf will Sony do? The PS4.5 is already an abortion put to shame by the S and absolutely stomped by the Scorpio next year. Sony need some sort of platform to push their software sales - I guess they could integrate their shitty streaming service? Regardless, I imagine these are the last few years of "PlayStation" as we know it.
Nintendo will probably continue their race-to-bottom, pandering to younger and more casual audiences to fill the niche majorly overlooked by Microsoft and Sony.
Microsoft has transended petty hardware barriers and moved into the digital world, Sony will probably move to including "PS" hardware in their TVs, Nintendo will edge closer and closer to Fisher Price.
This is just an outside, business strategy perspective - feel free to muddy it with your pathetic allegiance distortions and sunk cost biases.
Is MS going to exit the console wars?
>>341711295
aren't they supposed to try to sell more consoles, though?
>>341708017
>Xbox brand has literally been hijacked just to shill Windows 10 now
>Implying MS higher ups will allow them to put their shit on Steam
If there's no spyware on win10, then why are there programs that remove it?
Checkmate
>>341711348
They are going to end it. No platform separation is what they are aiming for.
Their strategy with xbone S, xbone, scorpio +pc is the indication of it.
>>341711348
It just became Sony vs PC instead, you've seen /v/
>>341711148
Stop shitposting. Also XP>7>10 but 10 is good enough to upgrade because it has features removed from XP to 7 (animated gifs in Windows images viewer).
>>341711248
First I'll need evidence that you're right about the spying. you can just say "It's false!" and then not provide proof as to why it's false. Second, my dislike of 10 is more than just spying, forced updates (I have Home 7, which will turn into Home 10, which is not the version that can turn them off), awful backwards compatibility, and the fact that nip games will more than likely not work on it for another 5-10 years as well as the atrocious UI makes me want to never touch that trash.
>>341711446
Nope, hardware usually has absolutely tiny net profits, if any at all. Software and licenses are where the money is nowadays.
>>341711608
Not really. Because a large amount of people playing on PC don't give a shit about consoles no matter what, so Sony will never get them no matter how many shiny exclusives they get.
>>341711629
>First I'll need evidence that you're right about the spying. you can just say "It's false!" and then not provide proof as to why it's false.
that's fair, but I'm not going to as I said.
I have done it a bunch of times, if I go into detail and refer to each and every claim I come off as a shill and it makes no difference.
So here's an alternative, read the articles claiming it and think about it a little, that's what I did.
For example, when PhotoDNA was claimed to scan W10 HDDs, I searched what PhotoDNA was and found out it was just a server-side image hashing program, not even part of W10.
Someone had found a promo video for PhotoDNA and assumed it was for W10 because it was microsoft.
Same for the screenshot thing, I just didn't take the claim at its word and found out it was a pre-release test version used for collecting that kind of data.
>Second, my dislike of 10 is more than just spying,
That's 100% fine.
There's loads of reasons to dislike it, I am not a shill telling you to get it.
I just find the memes agitating because I know it's built on a lot of falsehoods.
>orced updates (I have Home 7, which will turn into Home 10, which is not the version that can turn them off)
Totally fair, it's bullshit they forced that on home.
I use pro because they were giving out W8 pro for $15 at launch, but if you're on Home that's a legit reason to not like it.
>awful backwards compatibility
I could have a whole discussion on how it's not bad, etc but fuck it.
Also it is true DX8 games need an ENB wrapper to work, so I'll give you that.
> nip games will more than likely not work on it for another 5-10 years
I've got Touhou and obscure porn games working.
Again, I don't feel like debating.
> the atrocious UI makes me want to never touch that trash.
100% valid.
Don't use it if you don't like it.
I'm happy with Microsoft's decision to go full PC, now I never have to buy an xbox. PS4 is for weeb games, vita/3ds for visual novels.
>>341708017
>Now you guys can stop crying about windows 10
I will not.
>end of May
>pulling allnighter with group to finish up our final exam paper
>friends laptop decides to suddenly start updating to Windows 10 at 4:00 AM in the morning where we are the most stressed and pressed for time
It's like it knows
>>341709391
>over 20 fucking millions console sold
>claim no one give a shit
are you a retard?
>>341708017
There's not going to be another xbox, is there? It's going to be fucked up where the only options for a console is Playstation & Nintendo. Consumers NEED xbox to exist to stop Sony from going full retard jew and vice versa.
>>341708017
>delivered through Steam.
>still requires DX12
>DX12
>Windows 10 only
fuck off
>>341712564
it's his own fault.
the only way it can do this is if you already installed the update that lets it do that.
>PC mustard managed to convince xbots that the merger is a good thing.
Enjoy online vs pc, as well as having no reason to exist seeing as you are a gimped steam machine.
Thank goodness that AMD took a hint and fucking made a powerful $200 graphics card. Intel still went the usual Jew route with Skylake and Nvidia did the same. Microsoft only made it worse when they give their consumers are given free NSA spyware.
>>341711446
There was a rumor awhile back about how this was the last xbox console they'll make. It seems partially true in a sense that the software of the console won't change and just provide a better updated hardware. A prebuilt PC in a sense.
If that's the case, the it's very interesting when they introduce a better version over project scorpio and a better one over that one. Where's the line drawn for 'backwards' compatibility.
>steam
no you fuck thats worse than windows 10 i will never ever be happy no matter how they offer them
>>341712880
Cross-Play will work fine for all non-FPS games.
>>341712845
Nobody gives a shit about /v/. Windows 10 is the most used OS used on Steam now. Upgrade or deal with it, cuck.
>>341713067
>GOGdrone
Reminder Trails in the Sky 3rd will not be on GOG because GOG refused to host the game due to it "promoting child rape".
Defend this, GOG cucks.
I am not installing Windows 10. End of story.
>>341713181
>Upgrade or deal with it, cuck.
>>341713165
Can you imagine if DS3 was cross play with PC and you got banned because of a PC hacker giving your character billions of souls? I'm sure that will never happen again.
>>341713278
you don't have to defend it.
PC distributors aren't console platforms, you can run either off the same PC.
You can buy from both GOG and Steam and use both the exact same.
Makes me glad I bought Trails off steam though.
>>341713278
GOG is worse than even steam
did you not hear me?
i will NEVER BE HAPPY no matter HOW they are offered
>>341713181
I'd love to see how many of those win10 computers use intel integrated graphics
>>341713181
Windows 7 is god tier.
fite me irl
>>341713181
And in overall OS usage, it barely surpasses Windows XP
https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0
>>341712793
>implying there will be another Nintendo console
Good joke. Even if they are stupid enough to launch the NX, it'll sell worse than the Wii U.
With only one option in the market, someone else will step up, most likely Apple. Hell, we might even see someone like Samsung or HTC try and blow money on the failing realm of TV.
>win10 has no spyware
>i swear
Why don't you reply to >>341711492 then
>>341713181
>Windows 10 user calling others a cuck.
>>341708017
Are we just reading the title or the actual article, because the article says it aint coming any time soon whereas the title implies its happening soon.
>>341713278
IT'S NOT FAIR! GOG WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE GOOD GUY!!!
>>341711492
Windows 10 apologists, why did you ignore this post? Hmmm...?
>>341713181
"No"
And if me and others don't upgrade, then there's enough of an incentive for developers to allow for backwards compatibility, as long as Microsoft doesn't pay them all to keep things W10 exclusive, which they won't.
MS is actually doing the best thing. Now please remove the spyshit from W10 and we can be friends again
>>341713452
I agree that Windows 7 is better.XP>7 though. Also Windows 10 let you view animated gifs again without having to use a third-party software. Really useful when I want to fap to animated gifs of Hoppou getting pounded by a fat guy.
>>341713052
I think you mean forwards comparability, or backwards integration. I imagine Scorpio 4.0 will be able to handle OG Xbone games.
It seems they're still aiming for an eight-year support window for each iteration, e.g. Scorpio comes out 2017, games are no longer especifically gimped to run well on it by 2025.
>>341708017
If that is true i just might upgrade to Win10
>>341711492
>then why are there programs that remove it
Name them, cuck.
>>341713757
>selling pirated versions of games that should be abandonware because they bought the licenses for a pittance from defunct publishers
>good guys
Pick one. Steam is scummy as fuck, but at least it was intended as a platform for new titles.
>>341713790
because I'm tired?
the removal programs just disable online services like cortana and windows store, or block telemetry in the home version.
Literally doesn't matter though, if you don't reply to any one post it's because you don't have an answer, if you reply to every post you're a shill in damage control.
If you put in effort explaining thoroughly you're trying too hard, if you don't put in effort, your answer isn't good enough.
Literally no fighting the meme.
>>341713835
You can disable it just fine, that's what I did. I doubt it really spy on you anyway. At least there hasn't been any article proving it yet despite I'm sure many sick fucks already use Windows 10. So don't worry, I'm sure MS won't bust you over your loli anon.
>>341713847
You know you can just make .gif files to open in a browser by default
>>341713181
>Windows 10 is the most used OS used on Steam now
>Upgrade or deal with it
>cuck
>>341709830
>he doubts mankind's dark future of being rules by bovines in flight
what a naive child you are
>>341714063
Anon please, I have a folder full of gifs and with windows 10/xp images viewer I just have to open the first gif and click => to go to the other image while fucking my sex doll.
>games run on dx12
>Dx12 requires W10
Are you all retarded ? Or just pretending ?
>>341711492
Consider the possibility of a placebo program, something claims to do something like "block all W10 spying" but its only proof of doing so is a message box.
I can code a basic UI with a message box, claim it makes Windows 10 spyware free and nobody except those willing to check will care or notice.
>>341714046
>block telemetry in the home version
So it does have spyware afterall?
>>341714208
Still waiting for the news infos of people getting busted because Windows reported them after spying them masturbating to something illegal.
>>341714157
Make a .html file that opens all the gifs on one page so you can just scroll through them all
>>341709391
>Every xbox game is outselling ps4 shit
>Every Nintendo game is outselling ps4 shit
Why does sony keep making movie games ?
They're hilariously underselling. Why doesn't sony just stop making games ?
>>341714208
telemetry is not necessarily spyware.
you should look up what telemetry is.
Steam has telemetry, and I'm not talking about hardware survey.
But don't trust me, check yourself.
If you look at your outgoing connections when steam is running but not doing anything (updating, downloading, go offline in your friends list too) you will see it's still making connections to Valve servers constantly.
>>341714192
Microsoft has long admitted that they have plenty of telemetry in W10, and they can't even turn it off in the versions you pay for. As long as they can't fix this, W10 is a no-go for any reasonable person.
>>341714329
Why would they care about that? They will just sell all the useful info about you
>>341714373
Steam is not an OS, it doesn't full access to everything going on in your computer.
>>341708017
Why is Phil Spencer so based
We go from fucking Don Mattrick that doesn't even utter a single word about PC, to based Spence just outright saying "fuck it, put all these games on PC too"
>>341708017
Xbone literally has no exclusives, not a single one. Thats pretty sad.
Worst console of all time?
>>341714389
you can fix it by simply blocking Microsoft IPs in your router.
But again, telemetry isn't what people seem to think it is.
By definition, it's anonymous statistics.
>>341714464
It's still telemetry and you can't turn it off.
If you are scared that your OS is doing something behind the scenes, don't use windows 7, 8 or 10.
Use a free alternative.
No closed source OS is ever going to be what you want it to be.
>>341714337
http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/68/xbox-one/
http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/69/playstation-4/
>>341708017
I'll be able to play Scalebound without having to move to W10?
>>341711629
b-but the burden of proof relies on you desu
>>341714462
Isn't that what /v/ is scared about though? Considering half of you guys are pedophiles.
>>341714561
>It's still telemetry and you can't turn it off.
And I've told you the difference between an OS and an application. The OS has access to everything. A user may be willing to share something but not willing to share everything.
You're constructing a false dichotomy in assuming that if you're willing to share something you're also willing to share everything else.
>If you are scared that your OS is doing something behind the scenes, don't use windows 7, 8 or 10.
Again: there's a big difference between a company illegally spying on you behind your back and doing it openly. In Windows 10, there's a lot more telemetry going on than in the other versions.
>>341714945
you need to prove that 10 is sending MS sensitive data then.
why are pc users reluctant to upgrade to windows 10 when they already use steam?
>>341715024
because MicroShit wishes their PCs were just tablets
>>341715032
it's not PC users in general, just /v/.
Heck, even /g/ accepted 10.
But /v/ fell for the meme super hard, it's going to take years for it to wear off.
>>341715024
I don't need to prove anything. They want me to install their software, so it's up to them to prove their good intentions to me.
And allowing me to opt out from all of their telemetry faggotry would be a good start.
>>341715340
apparently that is coming, I'm not going to tell you what to do though.
I actually don't care what OS people use, I just find the meme annoying.
>>341711083
OS support costs a billion each year. Most of which is caused by retards not updating. W10 fixes that. Plus from here on out you have to pay for it.
>>341715414
>apparently that is coming
Maybe I'll give W10 a try then - when that is actually the case and confirmed to be true.
>>341715645
yeah I know.
I'm not gonna bullshit you "dude like just install it now and maybe they'll fix it!", but they are going to change it in an update because the meme just hurt their adoption rate too much I guess.
>>341713571
Apple tried and failed already. But don't really care because they own mobile screens. If they did want in the console market as a serious push. They'd just buy Playstation off Sony and use an established market force, anyway.
>>341711083
>>341715416
Enterprise wants a move on as well because of 7 being a haven of malware and ransomware as well. MS bought Xamarin simply because it's the easiest tool.
Intel processors from Kaby Lake onwards And AMD from Zen on won't support any instruction sets other than W10 or Linux either.
>>341708017
So RDR in Steam when?
>>341711295
Scorpio = no games
Neon = wide selection of exclusive games
Once again Microsoft misses the entire point of a generation.
Also PC transition = people on PC may buy exclusive titles ONLY. You'd be a special stupid fuck to believe the money for multiplats isn't going to Steam, that's the loss of a potential sales.
Meanwhile people will have a PS4 + NX + PC and will be covered. Revenue will continue to stream in these directions, Microsoft has effectively shrunk themselves into a corner if they every phased out building a console.
The Scorpio will be too costly, the TARGET AUDIENCE who own 4k televisions, if they are serious about games would have a gaming PC.
There is just so much wrong with their choices it's laughable.
Nintendo is small enough that they just need to satisfy Japan, their targets are also smaller than the other companies, they still remain afloat.
>>341708017
I'll believe it when I see it
Just watch them half ass the PC ports and leave them in an unplayable state
Phil Spencer is a fucking legend, it's nice to see that he's actually fulfilling his promises.
>>341709391
Because they're onto a winner with their much superior new xbox scorpio vs ps4k.
>>341717454
>But exclusives sell consoles! Not power!
Yeah, no. Normies are just going to dump their PS4 and ignore Neo as well. No one buys exclusives. Uncharted 4 floped as bad as Gaylo 5 and Bloodborne has an attach rate of 5%. Mario Kart 8 has an attach rate of 80%. Splatoon has an attach rate of 50%.
PC fucking wins no matter what. Sony announces they are competing against PC instead of embracing it just shows how stupid and arrogant they are when their own exclusives are floundering.
It always gives me a chuckle how /v/ shits on every other community for being a hivemind, yet is the worst offender of them all.
This shit has turned into a cult fueled on memes and shitposts.
All these people that keep saying "you don't need an xbox if you have a pc" are fucking retarded. They need to realise not everyone is some neckbeard loner like they are.
I have a very good pc and also an xbox. I play most single player games on pc and I also only have only 1 (one) friend on steam whereas I play all my multiplayer games on xbox because I have over 100 friends that are ex school mates, colleagues etc on there. Consoles will always be a necessity to most people who want to play with their friends because it's well known that the average Joe casual buys a console to play normie multiplayer games like cod or fifa. My xbox + pc combo is working well and I've actually been playing xbox more because of the new gta online dlc. Also halo.
I'm going to buy a whole new right with probably a gtx 1080 ti but I'm also going to buy an xbox scorpio because
1. I'm not poor
2. I have friends (even if they're all normie trash)
3. Xbox exclusives are objectively better in my eyes
4. I don't give a shit about what neckbeards on /v/ say
>>341719030
Whole new rig*
>>341718080
>Mario Kart 8 has an attach rate of 80%. Splatoon has an attach rate of 50%.
no shit
wii u only has nintendo games, what else are they gonna buy
no big first party games will be released on steam by microsoft, only the smaller ones like ori
>>341719030
the only reason why your own xbone is because you're american
>>341709706
Embrace, extend, extinguish. Some turnaround.
>>341708017
It better contain Halo 3, ODST and Reach.
>>341709461
>But I would still need to downgrade to win10
Ok anon, thats enough now. We've all had a laugh and the joke is getting old now.
Windows 10 isn't half as bad as all the memer's like to parrot.
Don't you want DX12?
>>341714549
>no exclusives
>Worst console of all time
Having no exclusive's isn't a bad thing. Infact, without exclusive's its easier to look at the console for its hardware merits and functionality.
Until now I would have been the last person to buy an Xbone but if I had to buy a console it'd probably be the one I go for over the PS4. Mostly out of spite at Sony for arbitrarily locking IP's away as ransomware and because at least Microsoft is trying good things for PC now.
-PC streaming back and forth
-Handy as a media center
-Shared games
-Nice controller
Actually could be pretty useful as a souped-up Steam Link
>>341709706
>And before anyone gets started on PC stealing Xbone sales
But it does just that
Microsoft doesn't get a cent for any 3rd party games that aren't published by them
While on the Xbone they get a cut for every copy of 3rd party software sold
>>341719423
I live in europe.
>>341710540
>the spying meme needs to end.
kill yourself you fucking shill this is a documented /g/ fact
They are planning to do the same thing EA did. At first everyone hated Origin, but the EA persisted, and people had no other choice but to use it.
Eventually, they will stop releasing on steam.
>>341720409
and most of your supposed friends plays on xbone? bitch stop lying
>>341720479
No its not you fucking retard. It's the biggest meme in existence and 99% of it is speculation. The only thing that's correct about it is they take info based on your searches and the apps you use. This is exactly the same as what android does and ios. There is no active file searching and Skype private message snooping like /g/ likes to claim. It's all speculation.
>omg when I go on Skype my computer connects to 10 different ip's
>it must mean they're snooping on me
>>341720802
They record you through Skype like facebook app does
>>341720586
And you know about my life? Are you me?
Fuck off sandnigger. Go and get at least one real life friend before you start bitching about other people's friends.
>>>/syria/
>>341709068
Those arent first party MS games.
>>341714561
Windows 7 doesn't have telemetry
>>341720054
Its slow as fuck with the usual bloatware. Dx12 is about to die off when vulkin becomes the standard since its closer to the metal freeing up cpu
>>341720995
>Fuck off sandnigger.
>>>/syria/
And you know about my life?
just stop lying bitch, europe does not care about xbone and your imaginary does not care either
Does anyone actually dislike Phil Spencer? Even if you don't like xbox he seems like a good guy.
>>341715645
Always check >>>/g/ for non-bullshit info
Alot of M$hills here just bullshitting
>>341708017
Phil Spencer is one of the few redeeming qualities of Microsoft. Or maybe it's just me, but he seems to be one of the very few who realizes that all the PR bullshit doesn't work on core-gamers and just gets to the point
>>341720802
It's not a meme
Not even in the Developer Edition can you disable all that bullshit
>>341721205
>he's a mainland euronigger
>b-but I'm not an immigrant i-i swear
>>>/syria/ you forever alone neckbeard.
Xbox has always done well in my country. It had by far the best sales out of ps3 and xbox 360. Stay mad sandnigger.
>>341709391
Since nintendo usually does things at it's own pace with technology and games,if microsoft would just give up the console thing then sony would just have the market all to itself. I for one is not curious about a market where there is only one competitor...its not pretty when one company has all the power. It does not promote advancement
>>341721539
nice shitpost, where do you live friend?
>>341720340
This here is the perfect example of why you should be as untrusting of Microsoft as much as possible, it is an extremely incompetent company that only succeeds due to monopoly of what people want.
Why the fuck is anyone shilling W10 when it is guranteed to be handled badly as a program, "upgrading" doesn't offer any benefit at all, and it has an indeterminate amount of system processes dedicated to plugging your PC into the Internet for shit literally nobody is going to care about?
I don't want my fucking documents online except the ones I put in DROPBOX, the thing I pay money for to store all my work in before W10, and allows ANY files.
I don't want my OS sending ANYTHING on an asymmetric line that isn't absolutely necessary.
I don't want my OS downloading ANYTHING that isn't absolutely necessary.
I'm starting to think I'm the only one who can't see this being slapped into the common scenario of multiple PCs on a home network with sub-optimal connections on a typical home broadband service isn't going to automatically create a huge amount of congestion and slowdown in everything actually important like VIDEO GAMES, both downloading, updating and playing thereof.
Purely offline 95% of the time OS or gtfo.
>>341721735
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-03-23-playstation-4-and-xbox-one-uk-sales-pass-5m-mark
>1 million sales difference
>"Europe does not c-care about xbox one"
It's selling very well compared to the 70% market share difference seen in other parts of the world.
>>341721072
Vulkan is dead in the water. It arrived too late and performs worse than DX11. No developer is interested in using it.
>>341722174
>i am a drooling retard hurr durr
>API that requires developers to actually know what they're doing
>Developers been getting so incompetent lately they rely on "Driver updates" to complete the fucking game code for them, hence Gamewerks shit
>Suddenly the massive increase in freedom and control over hardware architecture means incompetent developers make even less optimised trash instead of copy-pasting from Stack-overflow DX11 loops
>Only one game uses Vulkan properly at the moment
Fuck off faggot, it's literally DX12 + multiplatform instead of W10 only.
If anything explain why DX12 titles all miraculously suck shit. Oh that's right, same reason Vulkan does; developer incompetence.
>>341722174
Also it only works on a tiny range of mobile phones at the minute. So one of the main targets of Vulkan Adaptation, mobile devs, are just using Apple Metal or sticking with Google's OGL Fork. And even then the big "Signature" Game on Samsung Galaxy S7 using Vulkan, NFS No Limits, still runs like shit with microstutter and frame drops.
Khronos were just endlessly delaying it and had poor dev support. It didn't even need the threat of DX12 to die. It just killed itself.
>>341721979
uk, I might have guessed
why are you shilling for xbone so hard m8? you know fifa is also on ps4 right?
Don't be a cheeky cunt, and stop shilling for microsoft so hard
I swear on me mum
>>341721072
Are you thick? Direct x has already been more efficient than any form of oGL (renamed to vulkan). Vulkan is dead and developers have absolutely no incentive to make games on it over making it on the global standard api which is direct x. It would make developers work twice as long if they have to develop the game on vulkan and then somehow port it to direct x to work on xbox and then port it to ps4s gnm. Currently all direct x games can be easily ported to the xbox in like half a day (according to ms and some devs) and then to ps4 using gnmx which was specifically built to act as a wrapper layer for direct x games on ps4.
Vulkan is dead.
>>341722423
Halo > kill zone or any other fps in existence on console
Forza > drive club or any other racer in existence on console
Fifa legends >>>
>>341722419
>Mobiles
Most mobiles don't have the hardware to run their own OSes without freezing up.
And again
>Developers actually have to know what they're doing
And you expect that from the mobile market, the market that develops software in a year or less to release and keep pace with the market of shovelware? kek
>>341722734
>dudebro shit
Implying I care
your dad works at microsoft, sweet
just don't be a shill m8 and play on your pc
Who would have thought that Microsoft is actually the one who is trying to save gaming and Sony pushes their cinematic 'exclusives' just to sell consoles.
>>341722384
Retards such as yourself made the exact same excuses when OpenGL 4.x got released and DX11 still beat it in terms of performance and ease of use.
No one is going to use Vulkan because everyone uses Windows and they've already got a years head start in using DX12. Apple doesn't care about adding Vulkan support because they're moving everything to their own Metal API and Linux is still less than 1% of the market, so no developer is going to waste their time and resources learning a late-to-the-party API just to get that insignificant market share.
Vulkan is dead and clicking your heels isn't going to save it.
>Xbone backwards compatibility
>Xbone games coming to steam
>Keyboard+Mouse support coming to xbone
Microsoft wins
>>341713067
jump off a bridge, hipster. Steam is the master race.
>>341722962
Read my original post.
>>341723394
you don't need an xbone if you have a pc
all future xbone games will be cross-compatible with pc so you can play on pc with all your shiny smile xbone friends
case closed shill
>>341708017
>>>MCC/Halo3 with Steamworks support
>>Scalebound with Steamworks support
>>Forza with Steamworks support
Steam != steamworks
Games will come to steam but will require the xbox app or whatever shitty software microsoft has
>>341723117
>Vulkan is dead
Said no one
>>341708017
>Now you guys can stop crying about windows 10. You'll get your Halos, Gears of War and other Xbox exclusives, delivered through Steam.
I don't see how people can say this after reading the entire interview.
It's clear he's saying top Microsoft titles will be staying on the Windows Store, other smaller titles and third parties will be going to Steam.
>>341712848
>the only way it can do this is if you already installed the update
Nope. The last push that changed the notification now also background downloads the update regardless of settings unless you have the IP blocked
>>341723684
>cross play between between friends
Oh really? Since when did gta 5, fifa, mortal kombat x get cross play? Please show me these sources
>>341708017
Huh so they actually learned something from the gfwl debacle, now if only bulletstorm went steamworks.
>>341724982
all future releases. learn to read
>gta 5, fifa, mortal kombat x
goddamn m8 you such a dudebro, why are you even here
>>341725087
no sources? ok i guess i'll be keeping my xbox and upgrading it to a scorpio in a years time. thanks
>>341708017
I'll just wait for the w7 workaround, like when Halo 2 worked on XP despite being dx10 loooooool
>>341710643
>windows losing overall as well
>>341708017
That's good, I guess.
I wouldn't be surprised if they still managed to somehow make those games W10 (though not Store) exclusive just to show how big of a cunts they are
>>341725230
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/06/xbox-play-anywhere-buy-the-game-once-play-on-xbox-one-and-pc-multiplayer-too/
>>341725515
>gets asked for source on games mentioned in >>341724982
>posts a source with literally none of those games
thanks for reinforcing my argument buddy. don't worry i'll enjoy the xbox scorpio as much as i'm enjoying watching you make yourself look like a fool :^)
>>341725794
for someone who does not care about what /v/ neckbeards think you sure seems to care a lot
>>341709997
Pretty sure this is already a Windows 10 feature, ignoring steam
>>341720054
>Windows 10 isn't half as bad as all the memer's like to parrot.
It is even worse, because those people don´t know shit about what incisions W10 takes into your freedom.
>Don't you want DX12?
This is one very hypothical carrot behind a massive stick.
>>341725953
>gets put in the ground
>starts damage controlling
laughing at someone =/= caring about them
>>341720409
That does not technically stop you from being american though, i.e., you did not say "no".
>>341711492
You ever used one of those "Registry Cleaner" programs? You know what they do? Fuck all, but I still see them getting recommended.
>>341708017
Good goy, support Windows 10. PC master race!
>>341708017
>Windows Store games sell like because everyone hates Windows store
>we-we might bring to steam!
>f-for you guys haha! totally not for the profit and totally failure that is the windows store
>>341708017
Who cares when they'll still expect you to upgrade to windows 10 in order to play those games?
>>341709706
>Mark my words, we're going to see an Xbox with some sort of SteamOS functionality one day in the future.
why not just sell "XBox"-brand gaming PCs (like they do Surface tablets). If people want Steam they'll just install it.
One day
>>341711064
probably with Win10 store is the problem with Android store.. it's a good store, but flooded with shit products (e.g. pirated/repacked software, priced-up freeware, clones of popular casual shit, phone ports)
>>341727019
that's what they're aiming towards in the next few years. pretty much everyone is speculating the xbox brand to become a series of prebuilt pc's to replace consoles. only sony fanboys are saying otherwise (aka the whole of neogaf) because they're scared that a unified pc/xbox will make sony playstation obsolete.
why would anyone want to buy a playstation when you can buy a windows 10 xbox which has steam support, all pc exclusives, all xbox exclusives and all mutliplats. it'll have 98% of all relevant games except for the 2 or 3 sony exclusives which nobody will care about if this comes into practice anyway.
there are dark times ahead for sony playstation unless they go down the same route with linux based prebuilts which also support steam but windows>>linux so even that'll be a losing move for them. this whole thing is literally checkmate sony. based microsoft and phil spencer.
>>341708017
microsoft should buy steam.
>>341727602
>a windows 10 xbox which has steam support,
still pushing that meme, huh?
>>341728160
You want to put one of the only companies that can stand up to the console companies, into the hands of a console maker?
Lack of competition is terrible. Even if Microsoft does this these 'universal' applications would only work on one version of one OS and on a single TV connected device.
>>341712880
I mean, it's not like the PS4 and xbox one had any reason to exist to begin with considering they're just shit PCs
>>341728539
if it has full windows 10 support it naturally has steam support. microsoft will benefit off steams popularity if they do this.
>buy our low end windowsbox for just $299 and play all your favorite xbox and steam games!
not to mention how much money they'll make if they sell a mass marketed uber cheap moba xbox.
Why don't they add software backwards compatibility with the Xbox fat and don't do somethings like "you can download any fat game for free as long as you're paying for XBL", or some other service like a 60 dollar "pass" that would give you access to the whole Fat library. It's not like those games aren't literally abadonware.
>>341727602
The Xbox is already simply a prebuilt PC, but its also a glimpse of the future that Microsoft has in store for the rest of PC gaming. Locked to only run specifically approved software from a single software source and requiring a monthly fee in order to use certain features.
>>341727602
I can't speak for everyone, but the main reason for me personally to stick to PS would be weeb games. I'm not really into most triple a Xbox games and I think the only one I'm interested in is like scalebound.
>>341728745
>if it has full windows 10 support
It doesn't, it only supports UWP software. Steam for Windows is a Win32 program and because of the way UWP works I don't think it would be possible to create an application like Steam in that format and even if you did none of the games currently on Steam would work as right now none of them are UWP.
>>341728773
apparently they will. there were rumors of the xbox scorpio having full BC support for the 360 and the xbox original via actual real time software emulation and not what they're doing now with the emulator download for every 360 game. it'll certainly have enough raw power to do it in real time.
>>341728745
>if it has full windows 10 support
oh, mate
>>341729098
I don't really see why the normal Xbone couldn't do it, it's a 15 years old console. Sounds more like they want to push Scorpio by not releasing features for the Xbone. Unless it's like 500 bucks I don't see it taking off.
>"I don't think Valve's hurt by not having our first-party games"
>cutting out the bit where he says they're not giving up on the app store
I'd throw down $100 right now that, at best, we get Halo/Forza/Gears on Steam a year after launch. Some second rate titles, maybe, but IF they're still trying to push the app store, which they most certainly are, they're not gonna release their "killer apps" simultaneously on Steam.
>>341708017
Perfect, finally i can sell my xbox one.
w10 i can deal with, appstore shit is just pants on head retarded. there no exe so you can forget extensive modding or using using launch variables to skip opening cutscenes or enable other options. id rather use fucking uplay.
thank god
>>341728539
Well Sony declared that PC gaming is the enemy, have no intentions of supporting any cross-buy initiatives with PC and are now not even promoting titles that are also on PC even if it's PS4+PC only. What other company could Valve work on consoles now Sony reinforced the walls on their walled garden and outright said "We want to prevent our customers from going to PC and buying their multilplats there"
If you were Valve, who would you want to work with. The company that wants to work with you or the company that wants to work against you and put you out of business?
>>341717454
Holy shit you're a retard lmao
>>341732469
Hardly. They said part of the reason for Neo's existence is to stop part of their market peeling away to PC because of increasingly better hardware.
Right now the most direct threat to Valve's hold on the PC digital distribution market is the Windows 10 Store because MS has the resources to brute force themselves into contention, especially with Halo pretty much confirmed as a PC release.
>>341711348
Yes, that's why they release 2 new consoles in the near future.
>>341712880
There's no vs. PC. Enjoy your empty lobbies.
>>341732469
>If you were Valve, who would you want to work with. The company that wants to work with you or the company that wants to work against you and put you out of business?
Given Microsoft coined the "Embrace, Expand, Extinguish" process, I would be *very* wary of it wanting to do business with me to be honest. Something Valve should know all about given its founders came from Microsoft and used some of the same strategies themselves.
>>341733153
>Hardly
More like definitively. Look how many games like Pyre, Abzu and No Man's Sky suddenly got dropped in promotion by Sony this E3. Sony doesn't want people playing superior PC versions on better hardware. They lose money if people only buy exclusives (Which have mostly sold like shit and Uncharted 4 barely did more copies than Gaylo 5 in the same period and sales plunged like a stone once Overwatch released). They want everyone to be buying COD and No Man's Sky on PS4, not PC.
There is no more PC + PS4. Only PC or PS4. PC is now the enemy for Sony. Why would Valve even think of working with a company that said they don't want users migrating to the PC platform or even using both platforms at once?
Ugh I don't want to install windows 10 for these games. guess I'll play them on my laptop.
>>341734247
NMS got a big info blowout before E3. So did GTS, I assume that means they don't want to promote their own games either.
>Uncharted 4 barely did more copies than Gaylo 5 in the same period
2.7 million sold in a week against 5 million shipped in three months?
More Xbox users on PC means more people using the W10 Store which means more third parties looking at that as a launch platform along with or instead of Steam.
Why do people assume this means everything? We know cuphead and dead rising 4 is coming? Halo 6, scalebound and forza horizons? Doubtful
Speaking of which, Dead Rising 4 will come to Steam after 90 days, so there's no reason to buy it on the Windows Store if you can avoid.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/17/e3-2016-dead-rising-4-xbox-one-windows-10-exclusivity-is-timed
>>341711295
Microsoft games on pc deincentivize people from buying the console. If their plan is to leave the console race and only do digital games distribution on Windows why are they investing in Scorpio if they know they're killing that very market?
>>341734825
Neither were featured on stage. GTS was likely not featured because it looks like rancid shit but NMS being dropped shows they don't want to be promoting titles also coming to PC. Even a 1-2 minute gameplay trailer to remind people it's out in August would have been enough.
Uncharted 4 flopped. No one is buying exclusives and Sony sees superior PC versions as a threat, especially because PS4's technical performance in titles has been completely lackluster despite the promises they made at the start of the generation.
>>341735087
Literally pointless on PS4 then since anyone who wants it will buy the superior version on steam just like Rise Of The Tomb Raider (Which may as well be cancelled on PS4 since anyone who wants to play it can play a superior version right now).
Now can you See why Sony doesn't like the idea of PC gaming eating into their share?
>>341735262
Because the majority of the console marketbase does not care much for finding custom pc parts and learning how to put it together. Especially when pc gets no marketing at all.
You think the masses care about exclusives when multiplats sell the most? The scorpio will be the strongest console and have games not on the ps4. That's all that matters
>>341735262
>Microsoft games on pc deincentivize people from buying the console
no it doesn't. it's been mentioned over and over in thread just like this but i'll say it again. the average joe casual doesn't give a shit about pc gaming. these microsoft games going to pc are a non issue for them, an irrelevant concern. as long as they can play their cod's and fifa's with their friends, they'll buy a console for it's plug and play nature.
>>341735262
Why do they care. Spencer even said it on Giant Bomb that he finds it hilarious that people are trying to troll him on twitter by saying "Now I never have to buy an xbone" and he says "OK. Enjoy the game". Software always is the biggest revenue drivers of consoles. Microsoft just gets even more revenue if people buy PC versions.
Consoles are for normalfags. PC's are for NEET's like us who know how to build a PC. Either way, people will buy their games and they still get money from both sides.
will I finally be able to play Gears of War 2 and Gears of War 3 on my computer?
>>341735475
>>341735262
>The scorpio will be the strongest console
this.
as long as the scorpio is priced within lets say $50 of the ps4k, it'll be the best seller based on history. the console that runs multiplats the best will always win the 'console war' as long as it's not overly expensive. these retards on neogaf keep saying the scorpio is DOA because the ps4 will have more exclusives etc. that's fucking garbage and exclusives are down the bottom of the list of purchase factors for casuals.
sony have to step up their game if they want to compete with ms in the refresh gen.
>>341735410
>GTS was likely not featured because it looks like rancid shit
That's not the point. It shows that your little conspiracy theory doesn't really stand up to scrutiny. That's disregarding the fact that NMS has already shown up at two prior E3s and people were already crying about its overexposure. I don't see any criticism for MS doing that with Cuphead three years in a row.
>Uncharted 4 flopped
Top kek. Keep banging your head against the wall.
>>341737008
>That's not the point. It shows that your little conspiracy theory doesn't really stand up to scrutiny. That's disregarding the fact that NMS has already shown up at two prior E3s and people were already crying about its overexposure. I don't see any criticism for MS doing that with Cuphead three years in a row.
GTS Still looks terrible. A tech analysis by NX gamer shows it still has abysmal screen tearing and framerate issues. Why would Sony not show their biggest selling IP of all time on stage and bury it? And why would they ignore their big summer game either and show Lego Star Wars instead?
You are clutching at straws, lad.
>Top kek. Keep banging your head against the wall.
Sorry, but when your game is selling worse than a bigger flop like Mirror's Edge when it was supposed to be a huge summer blockbuster. Your game is a flop. And quite frankly, good. Console exclusives are anti-consumer and the more they flop. The less reason there is to arbitrarily lock them behind inferior hardware and more reason to put them on PC.
>>341735965
>as long as the scorpio is priced within lets say $50 of the ps4k
oh, mate
>>341735673
they have to leverage their games somehow, because xfags sure aren't buying them
>>341737437
>I'm a massive sonyfag
Opinion discarded anti-consumer cancer.
>>341737437
i found your post in another thread sonygger
>>341737161
>>341737527
>>341737543
>being this triggered because xfags don't buy their own games
kek
>>341737437
>oh, mate
oh, your dad works for microsoft? please, tell us more.
>>341737786
>6tf gpu
>against a console which will have been out for a year
>within $50
>>341737769
>Sony exclusives flopped
>Biggest seller this gen is COD
>Bloodborne has a less than 5% attach rate
>"LOL XFAGS DONT BUY GAMES"
Is this really all you have? This is embarassing for Sony with how they announced they were going anti-consumer and no longer supporting PC releases. Their fanbase 180-ing and supporting them just shows how cancerous it all is.
No wonder PC has the best fanbase and is the best platform to play games on.
>>341737347
We all know evil Sony would just put up a CGI trailer to cover for GTS' current technical issues, but that's still not the point. It shows that "burying PC games" isn't happening, especially when Ni-Oh (an exclusive which people went nuts over during the alpha) didn't show up either.
>your game is selling worse than a bigger flop like Mirror's Edge
[Citation needed]
>And quite frankly, good. Console exclusives are anti-consumer and the more they flop. The less reason there is to arbitrarily lock them behind inferior hardware and more reason to put them on PC.
Make a petition.
great time ahead pc bros
>>341737930
>i know nothing about generational leaps in floating point performance and cost reductions of smaller process nodes
k thanks for confirming you're a dimwit
>>341738205
>Make a petition.
Done
https://www.change.org/p/4chan-org-please-pcucks-delete-your-posts
>>341708017
Next thing you'll hear is Steam coming to Xbox.
>>341708017
Since Win 10 and the xbone store are a huge flop, this isn't very surprising.
Either way, it's good news.
>>341738275
>he actually thinks scorpio won't be at least $100 more expensive than nx and neo
>>341738395
Would this be a bad thing?
>>341708017
>delivered through Steam.
>He buys into cheap marketing talk
And that's why companies do shit like that cuz you idiots eat it up. All he said is that they have no issue to do it with smaller shit as they did in the past. But the bigger shit will VERY likely still be windows store exclusive so they can push Win10. And you can bet your ass Halo will be one of them, the same for Forza and Gears. It would be idiotic for them to do otherwise.
>>341708017
They are going to be Windows store ports.
So expect GFWL tier DRM
>>341708017
Halo ain't coming to pc.
>>341738436
>it's another my dad works at microsoft post
>he literally knows nothing about gpu/cpu/vram technology and development
keep talking, it's hilarious.
>>341738369
https://www.change.org/p/insomniac-games-spider-man-ps4-insomniac-2016-game-be-ported-to-xbox1-pc-too
:^)
>>341718075
Its not scorpio vs ps4k. Its the xbox one s vs ps4k. Scorpio is next gen, ps4k is just an upgrade to the current gen to prepare for VR, like the one s.
>>341738727
https://www.change.org/p/washington-post-remove-the-washington-post-review-from-uncharted-4-s-metascore
>>341738674
>the only thing stopping him killing himself is the thought that scorpio won't be too overpriced in relation to the competition
oh, mate
>>341738970
>Scorpio is next gen,
http://www.wired.com/2016/06/xbox-vr-scorpio-phil-spencer
slim bone is also the same as fat bone
>ctrl+f steam
>this is the most relevant thread
Sooo, I have this alt account that I planned to start using once I commit social suicide (as in get completely rid of everyone I know and practically disappear as who I am now), and while it was made in late 2014, it still has not gotten any year badges. If I make a purchase on the account, will I get an up to date one, or will it only start counting from then?
>>341709391
>microsoft goes out of console business
>nintendo btfo of console business by themselves
>sony turns into nazi because no competition
a cruel fate even for sonyggers
>>341739683
>he still can't provide any evidence that he knows about what the xbox scorpio is going to consist of and the component pricing at release or that he even knows anything at all about the technology anyway
keep going, please
>>341740226
they already said they're going to price it as a premium product. see you in 18 months, hope you learn how to make a good knot in that time
>>341740401
>sonyggers already admitting the ps4k is trash and the xbox scorpio going to be the one and only premium console experience for the same price
good job
