What the fuck happened to its modding community?
Cancer
AIDS
ebola
HIV
>>341704517
>playing mods
Bethesda
and consoles
Console only babies literally beg and cry for mods once it comes out and threaten mod creators if they dont port it over
>>341705546
That doesn't make any sense because they never get any mods never ever.
>>341704517
Bethesda tried to intervene in the modding process with their weird first party toolkits and as expected of Bethesda with their Midas touch that turns things to shit instead of gold they successfully made it more difficult for modders to do their thing. More difficult than what it was for the previous games when they were sifting through closed source spaghetti code trying to figure out which things did what with no instruction at all.
Bethesda finally managed to make a game so dumb, so boring, so lifeless that not even modders are interested in saving this garbage.
>>341704517
Slowly going non-existent.
Whats is it with todays generation and their lack of creativity.
Me and my friends used to make text adventure games with Windows explorer. That dragon never saw that bicycle bomb coming.
It's not Skyrim, it's never gonna be Skyrim. Fallout has never had a stronger modding community, it's always been meme shit like driveable cars.
Fallout 4 is worse than its predecessors
>>341707308
>fallout 4 is worse than it's predecessors
You mean like Skyrim?
>>341707416
I meant the other Fallouts dingus
>>341707445
So what you were saying is that Fallout is worse than F3 and F:NV, just like Skyrim was worse than Oblivion? Cause that's what I thought.
Is Sexlab on Fallout, yet?
>>341707416
>>341707597
Funnily enough New Vegas modding sky rocketed after everyone figured out how shit Fo4 was.
fallout 4 is trash
>>341704517
modders got bored waiting for the creation kit and said fuck it i'll keep modding for skyrim or new vegas
>>341704517
people realized outside of build mode there is nothing to mod because there's no lasting gameplay outside of build mode.
>>341708136
is the kit still not out yet?
>>341705546
Where do I find instances of this happening? I could use a good laugh looking at consolefag entitlement over mods
>>341706997
>old bethesda Games didnt have creation kit
serious question, is the kit out and if it is, is it free?
>>341704517
as a long time fan for es/fo series i can honestly say its the move for payable mods both by steam and bethesda itself. the fact people can steal and recompile mods and at the same time get money out of it really killed the modding community to some extent. i mod some simple stuff and release it for others to enjoy the game and help the dev i love by buying the game/keep the sales going. the fact someone is profiting out of it discouraged me. ill keep the ones i got/will make for myself from now on.
>>341708980
it came in "beta" at the end of april and yes its free but you need to use the bethshit launcher.
There's lots of textures, clothes and settlements shit, a few weapons
but none of the really cool shit yet. No quests, no really weird wacky things. No porn other than bodies because no animation injector
was Skyrim similar at the same time in its life?
TES series is more popular hence more popular modding community.
>>341709836
no because the skyrim ck came out much earlier and had (still has) a much more enthusiastic community.
>>341707085
>Whats is it with todays generation and their lack of creativity.
Eat shit
>>341704517
>DLC is actually stolen mods or easily modded thing
>modder get shafted and treated like chinese sweat shop worker
>console peasant steal thing and give no credit
>bethesda boast how mod has growing on console but never mention about theft
>mod is getting harder because need to use GECK and console compatibility
consolefag literary just sit in chair waiting for PCuck making mod for them. This enough to make modder angry
Beta
Everthing ia beta.
Even a dlc is a fucking beta
Geck beta ? Checked
Stupid beta, some popular mods got halted because of this beta shit a modders don't want to play with it.
>>341704517
lets be honest no wants the hassle of trying to unfuck the gameplay with a mod
>>341710621
you can't unfuck that which doesn't exist.
>>341704517
Waiting for the HD porn mods. I want the most perverse gore, rape, and bdsm mods. Fallout is the perfect universe for depravity.
>>341710328
just wait until they get out of beta and it's suddenly "you need to pay 5$/mod if you want to use them"
Bethesda and consoles.
Isn't the modding community a kind of selling point for bethesda games? Why would they try so hard to ruin it?
>>341708787
This is more asking than anything, the middle guy is the mod maker.
But here's some consolefags begging for ports
>>341711145
it's Bethesda after all, they're broken from the inside
>>341711193
Don't some mods require a script extender? bet they would go ape if you told them you couldn't port it
>>341711193
They're being pretty respectful about it. Nothing to point.
>>341708560
>>341704517
This. Theyre holding back the kit so they can release half ass expansions without havign to compete with modders for craftsmanship
Yes its still not out, were getting closer to a year since the game released without the kit to fix thier shitty adition to fallout.
>>341711145
>Hey mods are a huge selling point of our game
>Let's allow mod makers to make some money off thembut we're taking 70% of the money though
>hmm that didn't work, how can we make people like mods again?
>Bring mods to consoles! They always hear that mods are great!
Then the console players start begging every mod maker to port every mod they make and make the mod makers not want to do them anymore. I've already heard that mod makers are dropping fallout 4 because they don't want to deal with people asking for every mod they make
>>341711538
Yes, I'm sure you can find examples of this if you looked around long enough. That's just the first one I found
i think it went along the lines of
>mods confirmed to be on consoles
>console users demand modders to port their mods onto consoles and tell them to stop being entitled
>modders relentlessly explain that they can't port the mod because of the console's limits and lack of required programs (script extender and what not)
>console users refuse (or ignore) this and begin posting death threats to modders for being "qualified" PC Masterrace
and yeah, hilarity ensues
>>341711716
>I've already heard that mod makers are dropping fallout 4 because they don't want to deal with people asking for every mod they make
you think the begging is bad now, wait till skyrim remaster comes out. its only to get 10000000x worse.
>>341704517
>What the fuck happened to its modding community?
Some people got their mods stolen and uploaded for console players to use.
But as far as heard only that girl who makes house mods and some other guy blocked their mods on Nexus.
>>341711538
That's the best part. Two things have popped up, One being that Console Cavemen, don't understand what a Script Extender actually is, how important it is, and why I won't be coming to their shitty machine, and Two, Many Mod Makers have openly talked about how they might simply incorporate the Script Extender into their mods as a form of DRM, because the Console Users have taken to stealing and re-uploading Nexus mods to Bethesda's shitty platform.
>>341712259
Yeah
Bethesda needs to do something to make it known that a mod can't come to consoles on the mod page
>>341712435
Most of Fallout 4 mods I've seen don't require extender.
>>341712259
>wait till skyrim remaster
Better downlaod all the mods you are interested in now before the modders have a mental breakdown and take them off the nexus
>yfw it will get so bad modders will actually have to invent mod drm
>>341712690
It's already here
script extender can't be used on consoles, mod makers will probably start using that into even their basic mods just so they don't have to deal with consoles
>>341704517
They gave up. Nothing they could possibly do would make that game anything but average at best.
>>341707740
They're working on it.
>>341712901
Not even sex and loli mods?
They saved skyrim for me
>>341712582
Retexture mods generally don't. Actually interesting gameplay stuff will. Anything fucking with the UI will, and I assume there'll be an MCM at some point if there isn't already.
>>341713048
>lolimods
Like a player can be a loli or just npc lolis?
>>341708136
>>341708560
>>341711665
Creation Kit is out for a month.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdGr8MH4pPU
>>341713048
lewd modders prefer skyrim to fallout
I guess the peaceful fantasy setting is nicer to fuck in than the brown shit filled radioactive wasteland
>>341713206
I went through interesting mods to install into my save that I abandoned long ago, and most of them did not require extender.
>>341713305
*outh a month ago.
is there any hope for modders to get rid of the hazy/glazed over effect fallout 4 has on its textures?
>>341704517
Witcher 3 happened. All the Bethesdrones ragequitted Fallout 4 when CDPR literally took a dumb on Bethesda. Most of them play League or COD now.
>>341713367
If it was a while ago, then it might be before the extender/geck came out. Back then people will have found work arounds. The extender is a necessary part of modding Bethesda games and has been since Morrowind.
>>341713476
Almost certainly, unless it's a hardcoded post processing effect or something similar, which I doubt.
>>341713263
>being this naive to loli mods.
>tfw console's wont enjoy the adventure's and shenanigans in a loli run with loli companionswith lewd mods on the side.
>>341713807lewd mods
do the lolis fuck the other lolis
>give a group of people access to using mods when they have no way of contributing back to the modding community and as far as they're concerned mods are just "free DLC" that just magically comes out of nowhere
>get surprised when they act like spoiled kids and have no respect for the effort and time modders pour in to even create the mods to begin with
Hmmm...
>>341713263
Both
Skyrim has too many lewd mods anon
Bethesda should just stick to Elder Scrolls.
Even Skyrim's a better RPG than F4.
>>341713931
>too many
Impossible
>>341713048
>>341713048
you can already play as a loli tho
>>341713739
I went through top 20 Nexus mods just now and not a single one required extender.
>>341707030
Im gonna have to go with this, in my 112 fucking hours in this game, its all just a blur, it's fucking nothing. I said fuck it at the end, nuked the wasteland and just got fucking bored.
>Let's make everyone register to our special website and do all this extra bullshit in order to make/use mods
Nah. Waiting for HALF A FUCKING YEAR to release the GECK so they could crank out garbage DLC didn't help any, either. Fucking wasteland workshop is literally console-commands tier.
Bethesda really shot themselves in the foot with this one. Skyrim remastered won't help at all, either. I don't think they're sunk yet but god damn are they trying.
>>341714064
But you cant fuck a loli being a loli like in skyrim
>>341714064
>13 year old girl even being able to lug an assault rifle around, let alone fire the thing accurately
no
>>341704517
I'm surprised mods aren't even on the PS4 yet, why did the Xbone get a head start? I have a friend that I actually hate a lot, I see him play Fallout 4 periodically on PS4 and I hope he downloads a mod that intentionally bricks his console.
>>341704517
Bethesda pulled a Blizzard and killed it
>Paid modding fiasco drove a shitton of modders away from Bethesda forever
>Bethesda modding website has divided modders between consoles/PC and spawned a metric fuckton of hate, theft and even game breaking issues. Bethesda refuses to moderate anything.
>Took way too long to release modding tools
>People are pissed that the DLC is just shit we could have done with the modding tools had they released them
All together its actually killed modding for Bethesda games, I would be surprised if it ever recovered to the Skyrim levels it once was.
>>341713878
>got better vampires, Sexlab, SL loli over-rider(to disable that pesky anti-loli in its feature), SL defeat and SL deadly drain.
>loli succubus run, then join the dark brotherhood so I can lure my target and murder them through grinding.
>tfw accidentally got pregnant because of Balimund and married him in the end
>tfw not fullfilling my destiny as a dragonborn and becomes a happy loli housewife instead.
>>341707085
>Whats is it with todays generation and their lack of creativity.
That's not it at all. FO4 is just so bad that it's not worth modding it. They've removed so many RPG elements that there isn't even a decent framework for modders to build on. The new dialogue system is a major hindrance to quest mods, since now people will expect voice acting for the PC as well as the NPCs. It's just a bad situation all around.
>>341713305
Jesus fucking Christ, these idiots outright saying
>Anyone can download any mods regardless of PC, PS4 or Xbox!
Like its actually fucking true
No fucking wonder there is such a shitstorm going on right now
>>341714580
>Hasn't heard of African child soldiers
Shiggy
You could sit here and talk about how hard Bethesda fucked up with Fallout 4 all day long. It'd be a lot quicker to list off the things they actually did right. I liked the new quick looting system. I like random legendary monsters.
I think that about covers it.
>>341706949
>never get any mods
Anon.
>>341711145
I see a few reasons.
- They want to bring paid mods back, and this is the beginning of that
- They want to kill the modding community so they can sell micro-DLC instead
- They're just a bunch of fucking morons
>>341715059
>quick-looting
Actually that is a good feature if you ask me.
>>341711645
Yeah, at least they seem like people who if you explained why some mods can't work on a console, they'd understand and not give you shit over it.
>>341715059
You can walk away from conversations now
Thats pretty good, I like it when they let me stop listening to their shitty dialogue with as little hassle as possible.
>>341707308
>It's not Skyrim, it's never gonna be Skyrim. Fallout has never had a stronger modding community, it's always been meme shit like driveable cars.
What is New Vegas
>>341704517
>I dont feel like making this mod compatible because of the work
>thats okay Ill do it for you
>what the fuck man whyd you steal my mod
>I didnt, I even gave you credit for your nexus in the description details
>THIEF FUCKIN FAGGOT THIEF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MUH DONATION MONEY SAPS
>>341714580
Assault rifles aren't heavy
>>341715190
That's why I said I liked it. Having to open a paused menu for every fucking filing cabinet and office desk I passed was suffering.
>>341715245
That's a good one, too.
>>341715271
Not him but it has 1/3 the number of mods
Even Oblivion has more mods than FNV
>>341713314
Plus it has elves and orcs to fuck as well as humans.
>>341715059
Gunplay is pretty good. I'd say maybe weapon customization but that's pretty much the reason why we lack gun variety.
>>341713314
Considering there are mods that green it up this doesnt make sense.
>>341713508
I really don't think that's the case. A lot of people like Bethesda games for the character creation and modding flexibility. Witcher 3 has neither.
>>341711716
Wow, so modders are just huge babies?
>>341713508
Nigga what, CDPR doesnt even exist in comparison to Bethesda
Thats like comparing an indie to Blizzard. CDPR is small time.
>>341713931
>too many lewd mods
No such thing. Actually, I'd say it doesn't have enough lewd mods that aren't full of rape and bestiality. I want more stuff like Amorous Adventures.
>>341715482
When you have little to no control over content you spend hours and hours on you hold onto that little bit as much as you can.
>>341713508
and yet CDPR refused to release REDKIT 3 for some reason
>>341714643
Bethesda had problems with the PS3. Maybe the PS4 has similar issues.
>>341712097
Is there any actual proof of this? Coming from a consolefag, I'm just happy we got free content.
>>341707085
I enjoyed working with the kits for Fallout 3 and New Vegas because they were rudimentary, but pretty powerful pieces of kit. You could accomplish a lot. The new scripting style for Skyrim and Fallout 4 is, in a lot of the more rudimentary places, more complex than before without any major benefit.
inb4 learn the new way
If I thought Fallout 4 was worth modding, I'd be more inclined to learn how, but to be honest they managed to make the Commonwealth a shitshow of dull and/or stupid factions and endless mob dungeons, so what else is there to add?
>>341704517
is there some master list of nexus mods in a zip file that i can download before skyrim remaster hits?
>Also say goodbye to a good thing bois.
>if only we could take all the mods and make em in a format that wouldn't run on consoles
>>341704517
Console modding
>>341715295
That's the complete opposite of what's going on.
>>341715826
yeah
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/top/?
>>341712435
>attempting to be condescending
>can't even punctuate properly
Pathetic.
The game is bad to mediocre. The only thing good about it is the gunplay mechanic, since it's more action orriented, but they got rid of some of the RPG elements. The world is dull and mostly is just settlements needing help every fucking 10 minutes because you didn't build a turret. The weapons customisation is kinda great, and collecting junk from the commonwealth to make stuff was a good idea. The pipe weapons are garbage and only useful during your first 10 levels of the game, then you get the combat rifle and get rid of the pipe shit. The story is mediocre too, tries too hard to be like new vegas. I'm trying to finish the game now as fast as possible because I want to get rid of this shit from my hard drive.
>>341704517
You fucking retards do know the creation kit only JUST went into beta...right? Or all you all just collectively shit posting without any knowledge.
>>341704517
>Googled if FO4 mods could brick consoles.
>They do, not_impressed.jpg
>Find this thread: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/164593-fallout-4/73893441
Jesus christ i knew console babies were retarded but god damn if they aren't some entitled shits, no wonder the industry is in its current state.
To think some of these people might be lurking this board right now...
>>341715653
Like a baby with its rattle.
>>341704517
Fallout 4 is not an RPG.
>>341712690
It's already happening. There's someone who made a mod that when pirated by someone else and uploaded for consoles, said mod will corrupt your saves.
>>341710328
I won't lie; I would totally take a good mod and change it just enough so I cannibalize his sales.
>>341716004
>they got rid of some of the RPG elements
That's an understatement.
Consoles and Bethesda are encroaching on the goodwill of mod makers.
Nobody wants to make mods that get stolen and put back up on nexus.
>>341704517
>need a special launcher before you can even download and use the tools
>game is bad
>>341716004
Yeah FO4 was a huge disappointment. I don't know if it was rushed or whatever but it felt like an incomplete product.
I'll never understand why Bethesda decided to remove ammo crafting, was it because obsidian did it and wanted to distance themselves from them?
>>341716996
It's because they thought enchanted magic guns were better.
>>341716996
It really feels like they went out of their way to avoid referencing NV in any way, shape or form. Even some of the most obvious shit like fire axes and pump action shotguns aren't in the game.
I mean, I'm sure I'm probably just tinfoil-hatting, but it really is kind of weird once you start paying attention to it.
>>341717447
I think they went out of their way too.
>expected them to improve upon what obsidian did with NV
>instead they make fallout 3.5
I'm willing to bet they won't let obsidian make another game because they know it'll be better.
>tfw people who enjoy Bethesda games are also pedophiles
Why would I make a mod for a dead community? The game is shite
>>341717946
>someone has different personal preferences than i do
>what a cunt
>>341718035
You should be in jail.
>>341708914
Made by modders
>>341718139
Why are you so angry about someone's personal preferences?
>>341718278
Personal preferences can poison an entire industry. Thus the rise of mobile game and "games that aren't on mobile but might as well be" cancer that is infesting every pore of this once promising medium.
>>341718876
It was not destroyed by opinions - it was destroyed by existing. Games are good when people in charge develop them because they like games, not because they like money.
>>341718975
Oh god you're retarded. They get money from casualised shit because people like it enough to blow money on it or play it so consistently that ad revenue alone can float an entire fucking company. If the market wasn't there, the product wouldn't exist. Understand?
>>341719121
So you _are_ angry at existence of personal preferences?
>>341719179
>>341719314
Not arguing, just want to make sure that I understand you correctly.
>>341719406
Yeah I can tell you're not making an argument you're just deflecting to avoid dealing with the fact that you made yourself look like an idiot. You could just close the tab and stop replying. It's not like you have your trip on or anything, nobody will recognize you.
>>341719553
It would help if you answered my question.
>>341719595
I'll tell you what I'll give you a clear yes or no answer to your question if you give me right now an honest, truthful yes or no answer to this question: Did the result of the public's opinions about what games to spend money on reduce the game industry to, by and large, producing oversimplified garbage?
>>341719928
>Did the result of the public's opinions about what games to spend money on reduce the game industry to, by and large, producing oversimplified garbage?
I do not classify games as garbage and not garbage, I classify them as suiting my personal preference and not suiting them, so my answer to your question would be no.
> Did the result of the public's opinions about what games to spend money on reduce the game industry to, by and large, producing games not suited to my interest?
No on this one also. I always liked a very small subset of games.
>>341704517
>What the fuck happened to its modding community?
The GECK has been out for like a month.
The game is still being updated and every patch modifies files causing problems.
>>341720209
>I do not classify games as garbage and not garbage, I classify them as suiting my personal preference and not suiting them
Holy shit I can smell the disingenuousness on you from a mile away.
>I always liked a very small subset of games
And likely nobody else did or you'd have a much broader variety of titles to play, which is my point. Unless you only play clash of clans, angry birds and minecraft in which case you are the cause of the very problem I'm trying to explain to you.
>>341720527
No, if we remove clash of clans, angry birds and minecraft, if we remove all mobile games and all games YOU personally do not prefer, I'd most likely still not have more game to play - even if there are less people with tastes different from mine, there wouldn't be more with my tastes.
You are not very good at explaining that perceived problem of yours -- and you forgot to give me an answer to my question.
>>341704517
Consolitis
The modding is actually very much alive and well on Nexus, despite the best attempts of the landed gentry
>>341720768
I haven't answered your question because you haven't given me an actual answer, you gave me an intellectually dishonest deflection. The reason you did so was because if you had given an honest answer, you would've said yes which would've confirmed your own retardation when you said "people liking and buying oversimplified mobile-worthy games isn't why developers continue to make oversimplified mobile-worthy games instead of other kinds of games people don't buy"
>>341721229
>>341720768
You're both fuckwits with shit for brains so get over yourselves.
>>341721229
I gave you an honest answer.
I don't call games garbage, I don't call games cancer.
I don't think of other people less based on what videogames they prefer to play.
>>341704517
>>341721319
So basically you are an apathetic bystander who doesn't even like games or care about any games that may or may not be made and you're just here posting and lurking on a videogames board as if it's one of your main interests? I guess you fit right in considering the whole "/v/ hates videogames" meme.
>>341721669
I have a small set of games I like a lot.
And hate couldn't be any further from apathy.
>>341721758
You don't care about games and a board full of people like yourself would no doubt create the impression that you all just don't like or play (and perhaps even hate) videogames.
>>341721316
sorry i haven't been bumping your thread op here's an extra sah gay just for you
>>341721379
What is this?
An infograph for ants?
>>341721758
I do care about games. Just not about all of them.
I care about some and am apathetic about some.
You care about some and hate some others.
Do you see your viewpoint as superior to mine? Why?
Also you just keep forgetting to answer my question, anon.
>>341704517
The game is shit and can hardly be called Fallout anymore.There's also the console plebs using mods as well.
So it turns out that modders decided to go back to Skyrim, New Vegas or simply move on to something else.
>>341704517
Bethesda almost killed it with their shenanigans. A lot of modders are returning to SKyrim or New Vegas instead of making mods for Fallout 4.
>>341722060
Meant to reply to this one: >>341721925
They never made a power armor mod to add in samuses chozo armor
>>341720527
Your argument is retarded as fuck.
You must be underage.
No actual adult with any experience with the real world would make such a retarded argument.
Preference is the reason literally everything exists.
Removing those preferences won't suddenly improve other things by proxy.
That's not how reality works, you fuckwit.
f4 is worse than previous bethesda games
>>341721925
>>341721229
>>341720527
>man, I REALLY hate ovens
>why can't my toaster make a roast chicken as well? fucking nigger ovens man
Literally your argument.
>>341714580
confirmed for never held or used an assault rifle. those things are crazy easy to use and not even heavy, just don't expect to do commando-style bullshit like hipfiring with a machine gun, hitting with an accuracy over 75%
They really fucked up by waiting so long to release the GECK, on top of mismanaging the implementation of console mods leading to their annoying userbase worming their way into the PC modding community. A lot of competent, experienced modders have completely lost interest in the game following both the gap between the creation kit being released and the badgering they have to put up with.
>>341704993
>playing video games
I can shitpost too, senpai
