![Nioh[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CT1ObHG.jpg "Nioh[1].jpg")
let's have a nioh thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmZPYTEc7hM
here's some new gameplay. some of the changes are
>durability removed
>8 item slots
>weapon is changed by r1 + left/right
thank God they removed durability.
>>341701832
looks casualized into oblivion. souls babies ruined our nioh.....
>>341701832
The only thing I didn't like was the durability. Hopefully they will just polish and complete it now
>Durability removed
Hopefully this also means less stat-dependent weapon loot in general. It was ridiculous how much dumb weapon loot I was getting in the alpha demo. Like I was fucking playing Borderlands or some shit. I just hate constantly switching weapons because this new weapon is +1 stronger.
holy shit just remove the map too
it's so useless
>>341701832
>they made the life/stamina bars brighter and cleaned up the HUD
Good stuff! Also those dual wakizashis look really neat.
>>341703602
Chances are that if they took people's criticism about the colours and layout of the HUD into account, as shown in this gameplay, they added options to toggle off aspects of it like people were asking.
>>341701832
Now thread like this is okay. I'm sure you're not a shillman, and just a guy who enjoyed the game.
No sarcasm, mate. Genuine feeling.
>>341701832
FUCK YES
You know what I noticed from that video? You can walk backwards when locking onto an enemy. If I remember correctly, moving backwards meant turning your back on your opponent.
I could be mistaken, though.
>>341701832
They fixed the backwalk too!
>>341703871
Fuck off kid.
>>341703871
You appear in every one of these threads like clockwork claiming that anyone and everyone talking about Nioh is a KT shill. What exactly about it has got you so bootyblasted and paranoid?
>>341703976
Yep, around 3:30 when he's fighting the Oni, he's far more more mobile when he's locked on to it than was possible in the alpha. Dodges and rolling also seem a lot weightier than they were before, where William would also kinda glide around.
>>341701832
>Durability removed
Bit of a shame, I liked having to have an offhand weapon on hand.
But I can understand the change. A lot of people absolutely struggled with the demo.
>>341702630
>>341704156
ARIGATO SHIRRUMAN
>>341704176
I'm sorry mate, you just have to be in the same place at the wrong time.
Right time?
>>341701832
Stamina management seems to be a bit more forgiving than the alpha, but not nerfed entirely, judging from around 4:37 where he wears out his stamina after blocking the arrows. He catches his breath a little bit quicker than before.
I'm glad durability is gone. It single handedly ruins everything it's implemented in.
I shouldn't be punished for playing the game
>That obvious nerf on enemies damage
JUST
>>341701832
That gameplay looks great. Those dual katanas look fast as fuck in low stance and I really can't wait to try them out. The additions to dpad items and the weapons is fucking fantastic. I simply can not be anymore hyped for this game if I tried to be. It hits everything right for me.
>>341704470
Stamina management was only a factor in blocking and ultra heavy weapons.
Which meant that breaking enemy blocks was super fucking easy.
>>341704660
Its not a nerf. He clearly had great gear on. Even in the demo if you used great gear enemies were a breeze to get through. Once I bet Nue and got his gear I never even came close to dying again.
gomenasai threads coming back in august with the beta, who hype here
>>341704760
I meant more rather that a lot of people here were convinced that the breather thing would be cut out entirely.
>>341704660
It's a bit early to say that, since we don't know how good his equipment is. In the demo, most enemies couldn't mash you down in a couple of hits if you had decent gear.
>>341704815
I just hope that light endgame gear doesn't look as faggy as the Scout armour did in the demo.
>>341704824
Same tbqh. Those nioh threads comparing strats and the different weapons were comfy as fuck.
Can't wait to sink my teeth into the beta as well. I got at least 40 hours in the alpha.
>>341701832
Only bad thing is it seems enemy damage has been nerfed somewhat.
>>341705093
all except the vocal as fuck spear fags
fuck spearfags your weapon is ezmode
>>341705017
>scout armor looked faggy
Leave
Quick, post your Williams from the end of the alpha!
>>341705205
Feels good slaughtering katana twinks and heavy weapon freekills.
>>341705195
See>>341704815
It is clear they give you great armor right from the start of that demo as well as having quite high stats.
Btw did anyone notice the message saying he was gaining samurai skill points for using his katana?
>>341705552
>Btw did anyone notice the message saying he was gaining samurai skill points for using his katana?
I was just about to post about that - what a great idea.
>>341705552
Yep! Also enemies still drop quite a bit of stuff, but don't seem to be the overstuffed pinatas they were in the alpha.
>>341701832
The enemy damage has been nerfed in to the ground.
I hope this is just for the demo build. That Ogre he fights at the beginning hits like a fucking pussy and ins't aggressive at all.
God damn it, they better not have made this a casual shitshow. It'll appeal to no one if they do that shit.
>>341705432
Lost my pic, but I basically had ~30 in magic and skill.
>>341701832
Until they remove the completely fucking stupid European samurai faggot, I'm not interested.
>>341705753
someone fucking translate it already so we can have storytime
You think they'll change the co-op balancing ensuring that the host always gets OHKO'd by bosses who have quadruple health?
I mean that stopped being funny after the first 10 times.
>>341705432
>that stat window
>equipment weight in ratios and percentages
Holy shit, its literally a blatant souls rip off.
>>341705896
No.
>>341705990
Except the combat itself didn't feel anything like Souls. I'm guessing you didn't play the alpha?
ITT people falling for another Lords of the Fallen
>>341704176
I'm gonna assume he got wrecked in the demo so hard he hasn't gotten over it.
>>341706069
Except, that stat window is so closely similar to Dark Souls I'd be surprised if they couldn't get sued for it.
>>341705990
Combat is better though. And we all know and agree that combat is the most important thing in an action game.
>>341706076
we've literally already played it and it was great. nobody fucking fell for lords of the fallen
>>341706179
so how is battlefield/cod not suing the shit out of each other?
how is dark souls not suing lords of the fallen for the same reason?
>>341706316
I'm sure the only real reason you enjoy it more is because the main character is a literal weaboo insert.
You're perfect caucasian samurai master for you to project yourself onto.
>>341706076
you're the biggest re in the room right now anon
>>341705990
Are you retarded?
Souls is a blatant ninja gaiden rip off slowed down. It's a fucking vaporwave of ninja gaiden with slapped on pants on the had rpg system and degenerated combat mechanics. Fuck off into oblivion you underperforming, uninformed malfunction.
>>341706479
Nah. I'm more of a platemail fag personally. I literally just like it because the gameplay feels good. I'm not going to get a new ninja gaiden or dmc any fucking time soon so I'll take what I can get.
>>341706076
No, the alpha alone was far better than Lords of the Fallen in its entirity. LotF had NOTHING going for it apart from that admittedly very good experience multiplier and banking system.
>>341706179
>>341706316
Plus Team Ninja quite openly wore their influences on their sleeves with this and said that Demon's Souls and Onimusha 2 were the two big templates for what they were wanting to do with this. I don't get the problem, they're produced a very good game that's very openly influenced by other great games. The amount of shitposting attributed to this is shaping up to be something else.
>>341705432
My screenshots always looked terrible, even in movie mode. This is the only one I bothered saving.
I can't wait for them to turn this into a franchise so they can drive it into the dirt like DOA and Ninja Gaiden.
Fuck having original ideas, just steal other peoples and make the same game a hundred times over.
I'll just keep playing Fromsoft games.
You know, the people who actually put thought and effort and original concepts into their games.
>>341706623
I dunno. I played demons on release and have played and loved the rest of the series, but I'll be damned if souls games don't have one of the worst communities I've ever seen.
>>341706849
Yeah. Like Dark souls 2 and 3.
The shitposters don't realize ti's already too late to shitpost about this game looking slike Souls because we already played it and it's amazing and quite different while similar and compliments Souls
>>341705896
It's basically:
>Village terrorized by bandits
>William gets washed ashore
>He gets taken in by Sachi (whose father was murdered by the bandits)
>She calls him U-ramu and tries to teach him Japanese
>The other villagers wants to turn William over to the bandits but Sachi is like "my daddy told me to help people in need!"
>Village is attacked while William is out, bad guy is like "weak people should suffer!", Sachi stands up to him and he makes her cry
>William comes back and kills them all
>Bandit leader turns into a yokai
>Before he dies William questions him (apparently yokai powers lets you understand English)
>William wants to know where the person who gave him the yokai powers are, William is given a hint and he heads off.
>Shortly after leaving the village he meets an English speaking Ninja, Hattori Hanzo, who tells him to come with him instead.
Biggest difference from the demo is that in the demo said yokai is spawned by people who died traumatically and with lots of agony while in the manga its apparently a power that people control.
But in the E3 trailer William says "I found you!" and it has a short clip of a ninja looking dude who might be Hanzo so maybe the manga is close to the game plot after all.
>>341706871
>I'll be damned if souls games don't have one of the worst communities I've ever seen.
Well meme'd fameaboo
>>341706849
pfff ahahaha
have you ever played dark souls 2 and 3? Blatant fucking souls shills need to fuck off. Souls is dead and buried.
>>341707076
Anon, you left out the part where this washed up nobody European magically masters every weapon of a country he's never been to,
>>341707179
>have you ever played dark souls 2 and 3? Blatant fucking souls shills need to fuck off. Souls is dead and buried.
Well meme'd Nioh-/v/irgin
>>341707078
Friendly reminder if you didn't play demon's on release your opinion counts for nothing. I watched this community go from pretty fucking cool to the meme spamming fucks they are today.
>>341706871
The DeS threads we had here when we were importing copies from Hong Kong was actually really nice, and one of the reasons I honestly enjoyed the Nioh alpha threads so much is because they reminded me so much of those old friendly and helpful DeS threads. Souls threads (and seemingly a large portion of the fanbase) have been total fucking garbage the last few years in particular though, so you're not wrong there.
>>341707076
Maybe it's a prequel? He saves the village and then sets sail off to do whatever, but then comes back after it's been raided again?
>>341707335
so did i anon its so sad to see what happened
>>341707335
I've been around since DS1 a few years before DS2 was even announced.
The problem isn't the community. The problem is that you faggots, and I do mean mostly /v/, poison any community you touch.
>>341707076
Hanzo got an official render released the other day.
>>341707325
Ni-oh? Never played it.
Played the shit out of the first demo. Can't wait for the next.
>>341707616
le cal arts face
>>341707680
KAWAIIIIIIII
>>341707616
Literally Hanzo
Looks like Souls bootleg, with even floatier enemies.
>>341705896
>De Liefde
Heilige Kanker
DUTCH SAMURAIMAN WHEN??
>>341707904
OH MY GOD
ladies and gentlemen, give this man a fucking prize
>>341707594
I disagree. Mass popularity poisons communities. DeS threads were on /v/ and DeS had a pretty great community. It was the popularity boom that came with DS that did it I think/
If DS was DeS levels of popular then that fucking praise the sun meme would never have taken off the way it did.
No community can be decent when it gets to a certain size.
>>341707616
I see, its definitely the same guy as in the trailer.
Also the bad guy says "I never expected you to follow me to these god forsaken islands" and he has a British accent.
Perhaps William has been chasing this dude across the world, assuming the god forsaken islands are Japan.
>>341707992
No, the community was perfectly health for Dark Souls.
It was DS2 that killed it. Even though there's nothing fucking wrong with the game.
>>341707227
He had a hard life.
>>341707927
Look up Jan Joosten, he was one of Adams' shipmates and like Adams, became a samurai. A fictionalised version of him might well end up appearing Nioh.
>>341708103
Yeah, a few people were thinking that the shapeshifting smarmy-sounding guy might've been raising Hell back in England and William's been tracking him.
>>341707981
Man just ignore them. They are going to shitpost that it looks like dark souls.
>>341708254
A hard life where he magically gained mastery of weapons that wouldn't be used anywhere else in the world.
>>341708213
If you say so. I kind of want to puke every time I see people orange soapstone praise the sun at this point, the solaire meme was one of the most irritating and unfunny things I've ever been witness to.
>>341708318
No, I mean it.
Give him an award for being one of the few people in this thread with enough sense to realize what this game really is.
A cheap, stupid ripoff.
>>341708279
>Look up Jan Joosten, he was one of Adams' shipmates and like Adams, became a samurai. A fictionalised version of him might well end up appearing Nioh.
>Jan Joosten
WANT IT SO BAD
>>341707227
Whatever dude, he's posessed by a celtic goddess or something that resurrects him on death and that's what you're concerned with?
No daylight gameplay?
>>341708345
But he's stuck with a buncha Asian niggas and can only talk to a ninja and dead people.
>>341708485
Only daylight we've seen is from the E3 trailer where he's fighting some undead swordsman and then what looks to be a kind of Oni Monk in a field.
>>341705432
was too lazy to take a regular picture, but apparently I tweeted one out, probably because of this spirit's name.
I had that jo the fisherman phantom katana, and got a mid damage/stamina rolls, +water damage. Basically just shit all over everything.
>>341708598
was the demo ninja gaiden black responsive?
>>341708462
Yeah, I guess its just unreasonable of me to think that when a game developer has this world that's rich in culture and history and holds so many possibilities and instead of doing something interesting and original they shoehorn in a caucasian lead character who's mastered weapons he'd never know fucking existed is totally fucking hack and stupid.
>>341708593
Who magically transferred their knowledge of those weapons into his brain?
Because I don't know if you realize this, but you don't master a fucking weapon in a few days when you've never seen one before in your fucking life.
>1616
>not using axes
>but m-m-m-muh katana was folded
over a thousand times
>mfw
>>341708825
It's the feather. It imparted secrets to him.
>>341708961
Oh, fuck off with that stupid shit.
Its hack fucking writing 101.
>>341708593
Sachi will teach him Japanese
>>341708692
You'll play it quite slow and methodically at first, but when you get a grasp on the mechanics and movesets, you can come out of your shell a bit more. I wouldn't say it felt responsive and fluid like NG/DMC/Bayo, but it's possible to string together some pretty neat stuff. Here's a guy who's very good at it dicking around with some combos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q0_D0nykqk
>>341708485
Developers have said that a lot of it is gritty and at night but not all of it is.
>>341708893
>not using the kusarigama which will eventually be in the game
>>341708825
Why wouldn't he master shut so fast. He absords essence from his enemies in a magical land full of scary rape demons
>>341708701
>being this butt blasted the japs realize whites are superior physically to them
They can admit it anon. Why cant you?
>mfw I want nioh and bloodborne but don't want to buy a ps4 just to get 2 games
>>341708893
>an axe
>in feudal japan
I mean you might've been able to get away with a boarding axe when you get shipwrecked but...
>>341709023
What is she saying?
>>341709019
Do not bad mouth the feather. It's secrets are vast.
>>341709305
>a caucasian
>in feudal japan
Why did they even bother making it in feudal japan if they were just going to shit all over the idea?
>>341709296
Deep Down is back in development and will be re-revealed alongside the NEO, if that sweetens the deal at all.
>>341709442
She is trying to explain that their village is trash because of the extortion by the bandits
"Our village is pretty crappy isn't it?"
"C-R-A-P-P-Y"
>>341709047
Looks thick. Can one change weapon on the fly akin to the newer dmc?
>>341709305
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ono_(weapon)
Samurai also used hammers like in the game too.
>>341708893
>Not using guns
>>341701832
Did they make the enemies do less damage? Those Yokai hits look like tickles.
>>341709621
I would get the ps4 if Sony was actually smart and made the ps4k or whatever it's called have backwards compatibility at least back to the ps2 or original playstation so I could get more games
>>341709680
What does this page say
>>341709621
Oh, now there's a game with original concepts and gameplay that doesn't blatantly rip off another newly popular franchise.
Unlike this dog shit, I hope Deep Down does come out.
>>341709507
>shit all over the idea of feudal Japan
Well you know the fucking demons do a pretty good job of that too.
>>341709831
He's probably just wearing good gear.
>>341704071
i personally loved that you run backwards while locked on. it gave me higher control over how i wish to fight. we could already walk backwards while facing enemies by tilting the stick. there are many situations where that run backwards helps a lot. now what do i do? now i have to cancel lock on then re lock on each time i want to run back. before it was perfect and a life saver when you are on low ki and you need distance(running back is way less costly than a roll backwards ki wise)
not only that, the run back was even one of my biggest tools in developping an aggressive playstyle in the sense where my ki management and consumption is mainly towards attacking and i run back when i need distance on demand instead of rolling back. lower ki cost distance on demand = no need to save a big chunk of ki just to dodge/roll back when you need to = more ki to spend on attacking.
it was really a brilliant feature and deeper than it appears to be.
i posted videos of me destroying the alpha demo and even clearing both levels at level 1, and the run back was one of my most impactful tools that helped achieve this.
>>341709881
Why does this game trigger you so much man? I'm genuinely curious? Its the middle of the night but I could get staying up to talk about a game you like but you are staying up to talk about a game you hate.
>>341709689
It works like Souls/BB; in Nioh you get to equip two melee weapons (So far there's a katana, spear, hammer/axe and pair of wakazashis; plus there's a picture of a kusarigama in the equipment menu, so that too, you'd assume) which you can swap with the D-Pad (Though this has been changed since the alpha, as OP says), and then a missile weapon (Bows or a tanegashima).
>>341710097
Nobody makes feudal japan video games anymore and then suddenly this game happens.
It had a chance to do something interesting and instead its going to be lame shit we've seen in dozens of games already.
It will end up being a shining example of wasted potential.
>>341706585
that's a massive stretch
>>341706585
Last time I checked it was just a third-person King's Field tech demo turned into a new IP.
>>341710269
This game was never marketed as historically accurate or a feudal japan simulator you unbelievable faggot. The only waste of potential here is your entire life.
>>341709047
GOD DAMN
Hope we'll have a proper way to juggle enemies in the final product.
>>341710712
This just in faggot. Nowhere in my post did I say anything about historical accuracy.
>or a feudal japan simulator
Could've fooled me what with that being the setting for the entire game.
>>341706849
lmao this post is hella funny
>>341710814
The game had silly supernatural shit in it even when it was an SPRG/Mosou mish-mash based on the Kurosawa script back in the mid-00s.
>>341710269
Its pretty good anon. There's gonna be another demo (seems overkill since they just gave out a large chunk of the game previously). You should try it out
They fucked it. Great. Fucking casuals ruin everything.
>>341710814
Then why are you buttblasted it isn't the game you want? It was never marketed as the game you want so you have no right to say it should be the game you want.
You want a game about feudal japan and nothing else go fucking make one. You are literally complaining because you personally aren't being pandered to.
>>341710297
>>341710516
ok here we go
- interconnected game world with backtracking
- shrines that refill your health
- weapons with different movesets
- accesoires (rings in souls)
- dodge/block/counterattack (parry in souls)
- different outfits (armor in souls)
- health potions (estus/lifegems in souls)
- boss fights
- cryptic npc's
- respawning enemies after resting at the shrine
- weapon reach and speed + hitboxes (souls is slower, has less weapon movesets per weapon and wonkier hitboxes)
- charging heavy attack (dark souls 3 now has it too)
this is just some similar stuff minus the vertical gameplay. Souls is even lacking some basics ninha gaiden invetend a decade ago. Souls is the truly rip off with tacled on rpg elements which to be fair, are redundant as you see sl1 runs which are akin to no health boost runs in ngb. Fuck off souls the only thing it does well is variation and looking at the last game its lacking so, im glad its dead.
>>341711024
Nah not really. Breathings still there. Hes wearing pretty high end armor which is why he doesnt take much damage compared to the alpha. They did take out durability completely though
>>341711190
Those were all in King's Field too, buddy.
>>341710960
I'm not going to. I have no interest in it.
The plot won't be anything interesting just based on what little we know right now, the yokai won't be interesting because its the same company that makes fucking ninja gaiden. They'll just recycle the same tired japanese supernatural enemies that you usually see, despite the fact that there is a well of concepts and designs that could be used. Hell, I'd be surprised if there's a single tengu or kappa enemy design in the whole fucking game.
>>341711258
Plus look at the amount of damage he's taking and compare it to how much of his health bar's being shaved off. He's obviously at quite a high level, using this anon's character as a reference >>341705432
>>341711190
a lot of that shit is just standard game mechanics
>health potions
>boss fights
like seriously dude?
>>341711542
Yeah its almost like comparing one game to another is extremely trivial because many games share a lot of similarities.
>>341711190
wtf dark souls has jumping and so does mario
is dark souls copying mario??
>>341711874
how did you miss my point by that much?
>>341707616
Who is this guy supposed to be?
Does he run around with Ninja written on his banners?search google for Hattori Hanzo, you get Kill Bill shit
>>341712140
Not sure that's the same guy who compared the games, bromeo.
>>341710960
Another demo?
>>341713072
Yeah with way more content since it appears that itll include content from the alpha and the new areas and weapons
>>341711998
kings field is nothing like ninja gaiden black while the later shares a lot of similarities with the souls series while being an earlier installment, therefore pioneering the genre while the souls series blatantly copying it.
>>341711542
Like seriously what, standard game mechanics ninja gaiden had first.
>>341711329
in a way yes. albeit not as blatantly as it is copying ninja gaiden.
>>341712950
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hattori_Hanzō
First result brah.
>>341712950
Hanzo Hattori was one of THE o.g. ninjas. Like, the shit he did defined the word and the role.
>>341713345
>Hattori Hanzo
>ninja
I know its b8 but goddamn it, it gets me...
>>341713280
>>341713345
Fun little fact, Hanzo was never a ninja - he put Ninja on his banners so everyone would be afraid of him.
I noticed that there are other foreigners as well beside Papa Will in the trailer, it's probably Jan Joosten or Santvoort. Nyotengu might get a cameo and she might seduce or rape Will.
>>341713280
I meant google image.
>>341713253
>boss fights
>health potions
>ninja gaiden had first
dude please...
I wonder who this is supposed to be, assuming its a historical person
>>341714306
No, if people are blatantly comparing souls to ni-oh and therefore to an extent to ninja gaiden I take the effrontery and say that they are wrong. team ninja are pioneers and should not be put into the same category as fromscumware.
>>341701832
Still no release date for this game?
Looking forward to august demo
>>341714770
>team ninja are pioneers
Holy shit dude, don't go nuts or anything.
fromdrones BTFO
>people complaining about durability
> I almost always had like 10+ of those repair items
Come on now.
>>341714770
>if people are blatantly comparing souls to ni-oh
i didnt do that tho
i was just saying that your points of ds being a rip off ng is a stretch
>>341705432
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>>341714676
>game director says no tits
>character in game has perfect tits
Team Ninja just cant Control themselves huh
>>341715212
But thats how it is and how it works, or do you think souls combat fell from the sky. Of course miyazaki copied things here and there and the chances that he copied ninja gaiden or dmc are really high considering there are many similarities between all three franchises.
>>341715124
It really was you either had a shit ton or none at all. It didn't help that if you weren't good at the game your durability just eventually got fucked and if you didn't get good RNG drops you could just end up being screwed.
>>341715430
that tengu yokai has tits
there are definitely gonna be more sexy monsters in this game
>>341715485
not exactly tho. if you're claiming common mechanics like boss fights and health points(all things Kings Field had btw) means it's inspired by ninja gaiden, then you're reaching. you need something that's very specific to the series.
the only thing that's official is that miyazaki got inspiration from Kings Field.
>>341715971
people claim it is the combat.
combat consists of
weapon reach
weapon moveset
weapon upgrading
spacing
dodging
comboing (r1 to r2 and vice versa)
enemy ai
everything that kings field is lacking + 2 essentials like 3rd person and vertical combat. ninja gaiden had it all before the first souls was released.
>>341716313
>spacing, dodging and enemy ai
You have to be smoking crack if you think ninja gaiden invented these
>>341716402
I sure need to be on your level.
Listen ninja gaiden did most of what souls does and more, not seeing or ignoring similarities is retarded fanboism
>>341716313
>weapon reach
you mean a weapon having length??? what?
>weapon moveset
every weapon in every game has a moveset m8
>weapon upgrading
reaching hard here
>spacing
spacing definitely had importance in KF
>dodging
i'll give you this one. it could be a possibility
>comoboing(r1 to r2 and vice versa)
again you're reaching hard here
>enemy ai
dude....
Do I really need to buy a bloodborne machine to play this?
>>341716632
Ninja gaiden was earlier released as dark souls which is nothing like kings field kings field is a blatant ripoff of other first person rpgs like daggerfall etc so not really compareable with a 3rd person melee action game stop bringing it up thats retarded. Dark souls has not inveted anything at all just copy pasted from franchises that already have everything souls has to offer and more, how can you be so blind? go play ninja gaiden for once and come back and tell me how team ninja is copying everything and is just a from bootleg.
>>341717113
try some punctuation and a spellcheck yuroshit moron
>>341717748
the last argument reatrds fall to. Just fuck off when beeing btfo and not able to say something on topic undereducated piece of shit.
>>341717113
>dark souls is nothing like kings field
it's an open world rpg with a focus on not outright telling you anything, just like kings field. demon's souls really is an updated, third-person version of kings field. have you ever played kings field?
>so not really compareable with a 3rd person melee action game stop bringing it up thats retarded.
there are actually a lot of parallels between kings field and demon's souls. i think about the only mechanical differences, mainly, is the expansion of movesets and the camera being third person.
>Dark souls has not inveted anything at all
i never claimed it did.
>go play ninja gaiden for once and come back and tell me how team ninja is copying everything and is just a from bootleg.
I also never claimed this.
>>341713482
>"During the Tenshō Iga War he planned a brilliant defence of the ninja homeland in Iga province"
>He served during the siege of Odawara and was awarded 8,000 koku. By the time Ieyasu entered Kantō, he was awarded an additional 8,000 koku and had 30 yoriki and 200 public officials for his services. Ieyasu was said to have also began to employ more Iga ninja with Hanzō as their leader.
Hanzō was known as an expert tactician and a master of spear fighting but clearly has a ninja lineage
>>341703976
you could do that in the earlier demo too
you just had to walk slowly
>>341704824
Why are they doing another beta? I swear by the time the game comes out they will have removed stamina all together.
>>341709507
You do realize William Addams actually existed right?
>>341717956
kings field beeing open world is far fetched. It's a non linear corridor simulator as are all souls except for ds1. Have you ever played kings field or souls or any semi open world games? Even in that genre there are bunch of other examples kings field is a pathetic try to bring open world games to consoles (psx)
If you really think that movesets and camera angles are the only technical differencies between souls and kings you are wrong, dead wrong.
if you never claimed it invented anything, why do you claim it didnt copy ninja gaiden or team ninja?
there are actually a lot of parallels
there are more parallels between ng and ds than ds and kf and guess which game was first.
>>341706825
looks like witcher3 on toaster
>>341708369
Is it okay if I ironically praise the sun after I kill a sunbro?
>>341718125
Most sengoku period history is too entwined with popular culture as far as "ninja" are concerned.
Hanzo never ran around in black pajamas. His "ninja skills" are usually touted to his tactician sense, and probably used lots of misdirection tactics, decoys, body doubles, and the like, thus giving him "super natural abilities"
But in that whole wiki article, they just throw the word "ninja" around everywhere.
Its actually claimed that a "ninja" hid in a shitter, and waited several days in a pile of shit, waiting for Uesugi Kenshin to to relieve himself, then stabbed him through the ass. Kenshin took three days to die, after apparently being stabbed in the anus with a spear, by a ninja hiding in a shitbox.
>>341706825
>>341718528
>>341718446
ANJIN-SAN!
>>341718665
Pretty good series.
>>341701832
they really need to fix the audio
>>341706825
The PS4 saves screenshots in JPEG. You have to set it to PNG to get better quality
>>341718286
Probably just catch on a bit more hype before the release
>>341718503
>kings field beeing open world is far fetched. It's a non linear corridor simulator
call it what you want, but it's the same as demon's souls
>If you really think that movesets and camera angles are the only technical differencies between souls and kings you are wrong, dead wrong.
i said those are the main differences. obviously there are some subtle differences
>if you never claimed it invented anything, why do you claim it didnt copy ninja gaiden or team ninja?
because other games exist...
>there are more parallels between ng and ds than ds and kf and guess which game was first.
kings field, which was explicitly stated as the inspiration for demon's souls.
>>341718752
I read the book in jr high because I was a total weaboo. Never watched the actual TV series.
>>341716923
It was announced as a "ps4 console exclusive" so it's coming to Steam but not to other consoles.
You will have to probably wait few months for pc version though.
>>341719159
every thread about a sony exclusive
>>341719159
sorry to break your light but they confirmed it as a total exclusive
>>341705432
>this is literally a game where you make your own Ken-samas and fight not-DaS monsters
I'm sold. Hear me, shill.
>>341719095
call it what you want, but it's the same as demon's souls
nothing like demon souls. You have a nexus in demon souls if anything it is more like dark souls but still stuck in first person. If anything anything it is more like elder scrolls because first person cut it. kings field is nothing like dark souls/demon souls. Why not comparing ultima to dark souls if we are at it, you know, completely non contextual titles instead of 3rd person meele action games.
>because other games exist...
You mean devil may cry yes, as already stated they could have gotten some inspiration from that game too.
>kings field, which was explicitly stated as the inspiration for demon's souls.
So what, doesnt mean jack shit. I can completely steal a combat system from an other game and never state anything. If you are not retarded you will see through it anyway.
My point stands. The souls series is a blatant ripoff of 3rd person melee action games with fighting elements like ninja gaiden and devil may cry but simplyfied and stacked rpg elements. I love dark souls but from software need to step the game up and bloodborne looks promising but is beeing held hostage so for all I care is fromsoftware dead, bunch of hacks, ni oh will be killer and team ninja will deliver as they did with ngb.
>>341701832
is the demo still available on the best system?
>>341719843
>he's a pcuck
>>341720361
Your elitism faggotary does not offend me as I am not underage as you probably are.
>>341720627
You will never, EVER play Nioh. Why do you care about it so much?
>>341720627
never EVER pcuck
>>341720747
s-stop PLEASE
>>341720747
Do you really think I wont be grabbing a cheap ps4 after all faggots like you will shit out another 400 bucks for ps4neo? I havent expected the least amount of common sense in a degenerated and am still disappointed, well, there you go goldfaces, retarded as expected, retarded as ever.
>>341719843
>nothing like demon souls. You have a nexus in demon souls
but there's still no railroaded path to progress the game. admittedly, dark souls is more akin to kf map design, but there are still similarities.
>kings field is nothing like dark souls/demon souls.
you literally just said the map design in kf is similar to das. you just disproved yourself.
>You mean devil may cry yes, as already stated they could have gotten some inspiration from that game too.
are you retarded? even if it, hypothetically, wasn't inspired from kf, that doesnt mean it's automatically inspired from ng and dmc.
>The souls series is a blatant ripoff of 3rd person melee action games with fighting elements
as a 3rd person melee action rpg, yes it does have similarites to other 3rd person melee action games. that hardly makes it a blatantly ripoff though.
>>341720990
never EVER
>>341721002
can you fuck off with kf now? It has nothing to do with dark/demon souls expect some gimmicks here and there but still are totally different games you nitpicking twat.
If you dont see how ninja gaiden/devil may cry are pioneers in their respective genre and how dark souls is blatantly copying their success with the same melee combat albeit simplified for audiences like you, with the same level design (play ngb for once so you actually know and understand what you are arguing against) with interconnected world design (fucking play ngb you nigger) the similarities are insane. ignoring this fact is just stupid and therefor I think you are either a troll blind or really fucking retarded.
>>341721065
>>341721220
patriotic closet homosexual golddick posters are the worst cancer on /v/. congratulations for being the anonymous image board poster equivalent of neo fascism.
>>341721935
>fascism
>bad
>>341721935
(you)
>>341721430
im getting pretty tired, so im only gonna address one of your points and stop replying from here
>If you dont see how ninja gaiden/devil may cry are pioneers in their respective genre and how dark souls is blatantly copying their success with the same melee combat albeit simplified for audiences like you
for one, i never claimed those games aren't pioneers in their own respects
for two, just because ds is a 3rd person melee action game, it doesn't mean it's ripping off other games, especially since the combat between ng and/or dmc and ds are hardly similar.
lastly, ds didn't get popular for combat. it got popular for its challenging world design and it's lack of hand holding. the claim that it's copy their success with it's combat really isn't true unless you're a pvpfag.
>durability removed
Wow. I mean I wanted them to, I even told them to, but I didn't think they would do it. I just thought the would increase everything's durability across the board.
>>341722070
>beeing an undereducated mouth breather, slogan spouting shit eater
>unironically generate console wars and derailing threads
>good
You really are stupid, arent you? Why are you here?
>>341722101
haHA, i hope my reply makes your day hitposter xy
>yfw Mark of the Conqueror gives you the option to restore everything to the way it was in the alpha demo
>>341722225
I BET you are tired from shitposting and I am glad I could talk some sense into you. Play the games, see the truths. Dark souls is simplified, slowed down version of ng which is a slowed down version of dmc. Try to see the connection and it will become more and more obvious.
>>341722260
I don't even see why durability was an issue for anyone in the demo, you get a trillion gear drops if you play through the levels more than once and you can sell them for "souls" (the name they used for the currency escapes me) which also gives you tons of durability restoring items too.
I also don't understand why they made Stamina management a bit easier, you never had to use Ki Bursting in the demo stages if you didn't over extend like a retard and the Ki Burst system itself was pretty simple to figure out.
>>341723062
>I don't even see why durability was an issue for anyone in the demo
i think blocking used a lot of durability, so people who turtled instead of dodging and playing aggressively had trouble with it
>>341701832
I hadn't seen nor heard of this game before watching that video and I was about 80% it was From's next game before reading these comments.
Aside from that, I don't really like the atmosphere. It seems way too dark and combined with cartoony and super colorful enemies and UI it kinda just gives me a headache to look at it.
