Have you calmed down and excepted it yet?
*accepted
Why yes, I have calmed down. And I will except it from my collection.
>>341687462
what are the complaints for this game?
Shit man there are RPG maker games that look like better games than Colour Splash.
A FUCKING PAINT CAN
>>341687462
Calmed down? yes
Accepted? nope
>>341687601
sticker star 2: cards 'n paint boogaloo
>>341687462
yes. In fact, I can't wait to play it. After watching gameplay from the treehouse, I've seen the little potential this game has, it's already miles better than SS.
>>341687462
I have accepted the death of Paper Mario. I'll just go back and play the ones before Sticker Star when I feel like it.
>mfw we will never get a good Paper Mario game ever again
>>341687601
>Paper Mario fans like paper mario as an RPG
>Paper Mario gets a platform game called Super Paper Mario
>"o-ok"
>New Paper Mario announced called Sticker Star
>Miyamoto or the devs themselves (I forget the development story) gut the original idea of it being an RPG by removing rpg elements, npc diversity and bowsers ability to talk
>Regardless of what actually lead to this, people blame Miyamoto for ruining the game in an attempt to remove story from mario
>New Paper Mario announced
>people hope it's an rpg again
>It's just sticker star 2.0
It's basically going to be another platformer with a boring "RPG Like" combat system.
Explain to me what reason there is to do battles in this game instead of just avoiding all the enemies.
>>341688547
Paint?
I've been indifferent since SS and the Iwata Asks happened.
Even when they literally told me to fuck off and play M&L for wanting PM to return to its roots, I felt nothing.
Hell, a few predictions I made actually came true, showing how unwilling they are to step away from the foundation that NSMB laid down.
>>341688547
after defeating enemies, they drop a little hammer icon among coins, cards and paint, this hammer icon fills a yellow bar on the side of your paint.
that counts as experience, fill the bar and your paint capacity expands.
Also, defeating enemies, gives you enemy cards that you can use in battle to summon enemies as "partners" who will attack and take damage for you.
>>341689019
It should be noted however they only last for that battle and can't be used in Boss Fights, so expect those to be "Use the right Thing or Bucket will berate you for making it a mild challenge!"
>>341687462
No
I'm convinced that they are just doing it to spite the fans
Yes, I have accepted that Paper Mario is dead and not coming back, and people here should do the same already.
>>341688242
>I have accepted the death of Paper Mario
Super Paper Mario sold twice as much as TTYD
Sticker Star sold as much as TTYD (~2m)
if sales trajectory of Paper Jam will be like other M&L games it will take 2millions putting it into the same tier as TTYD
With or without you -- series is more successful than ever with constant releases
>>341688463
>dev interview
>Would you ever consider adding RPG mechanics back into the game?
>"Have you ever heard of Mario & Luigi?"
>>341689318
This is what I'm afraid of, bosses being completely easy after using a Thing card, and they're necessary(Morton doing 48hp damage with fire hammer, wut?)
>>341689603
Paper Jam is a M&L game.
Shitter Star sold because it hit the bargain bin and the 3DS userbase of 50 million compared to the 15 million userbase of Gamecube
Color Splash will be a massive flop. Not only because it's on Wii U, but because people despised Sticker Star
I feel like all these Sticker Star/Color Splash defenders are going all in on the defense force just because the games have good music and beautiful artstyles.
What does pretty visuals mean when the game itself is shallow, uninteresting and only a minimal improvement on the previous game? Youd be better off just buying The Order 1886 from the bargain bin and enjoying a 5 hour movie if you want a pretty yet shallow experience.
Guys, just play Super Mario RPG.
>didnt care for New Super Mario Bros. DS
>loved New Super Mario Bros. U
>didnt care for Mario 3D Land
>loved Mario 3D World
>didnt care for Sticker Star
>legitimately loved the trailer for Color Splash
it looks fine, you guys. It looks so charming. The music is gonna be great (SS had some solid boss music), we get to see the Koopalings debut in paper form, and the dialogue from the trailer reminded me of TTYD
At this point there's nothing to be sour about
>>341687462
It's like love. It's like romance.
>>341690228
NSMB1 and 3D Land are the odd ones out on that list. They launched with critical acclaim. NSMB1 was a return to 2D mario from a long gap of slumber and 3D Land was the concept of making a 2D mario that played in 3D to appeal to a casual crowd. Both were fresh ideas at the time.
We dont fucking need fresh ideas for Paper Mario when the last faithful entry came out in 2004.
>>341690228
>muh visuals
Ruined by shitty, shallow gameplay and the same bullshit from Sticker Star where it's pointless to battle enemies.
>>341687462
Calmed down? I gave up on Paper Mario after SPM
Accepted it? No. Not buying it either.
>stick of truth is better paper mario
>>341690470
>>341690648
This, except I read that sticker star was going back to turn based combat and the only other news I had about it was that it was like TTYD from that E3 demo when it was still in development, so after hearing those two tidbits i went blind on the entire game and bought it blind to relive the excitement of not knowing the first two games before playing them.
then i gave up.i might pirate this due to the fact that the wii u has no more games coming out but that's a big "might" and theres no way i'd pay a dime for this in retail.
>>341690627
>...it's pointless to battle enemies.
this meme again. Do you people do your research before shitposting? at least in this game the enemies drop experience after defeating them.
>>341691137
>drop experience after defeating them.
Can we dispell this meme now? It's not "experience" and using it as a buzzword to try and meme people into thinking leveling is back is not accurate.
There is a meter on your hammer. When the meter fills up with the "exp" you get to carry more paint. That's fucking it. And from all the demos we've seen so far, paint is EASY to come by (just smash a flower or like, anything else) and coloring cards with it uses up an extremely, EXTREMELY small amount. I would imagine the "experience" and "leveling" isn't even going to be noticable unless you start using 30+ cards per fight.
And that still doesn't change the fact that you benefit more from saving your cards and just not fighting. Save the cards and paint for the boss battles. You'll only need to fill up the fucking context specific "real world" thing cards again.
>>341690470
this is shopped right?
>>341689745
This will never not make me mad
>>341691575
>And from all the demos we've seen so far
that's the point, we don't know exaclty if the paint is going to be more scarce later in the game, which I wish, or if other cards will demand more paint later on. you might even use 3 or more cards per turn like in SS. yes the paint replinishes fairly often but you use most of it to paint the map, toads, etc.
What I fucking wish is for this game to get more demanding with the use of paint, since you can increase it.
>>341690015
>Shitter Star sold because it hit the bargain bin
nope
Sticker Star entered Nintendo Select just this month four years after release and only in Europe
> 3DS userbase of 50 million
wrong again
Sticker Star was released in 2012
back then 3DS base was about the same as GC if not less
>>341692468
>that's the point, we don't know exaclty if the paint is going to be more scarce later in the game
..Exactly, but without any reason what so ever to believe the paint does get more scarce later, (btw there's an overworld so you'll always be able to travel back to earlier levels even if that is the case) it's just wishful thinking. There's absolutely no indication of that happening and it's more realistic that it's just going to be garbage and pointless combat like sticker star.
>>341692639
And TTYD was released in 2004, your point?
>posting shitty amazon suggested retail prices when everyone can get a new copy from a gamestop's bargain bin for like $10
>>341690016
>the games have good music and beautiful artstyles.
The music is forgettably mediocre jazz and the art style is just "what if New Super Mario Bros was arts and crafts?"
>>341692639
>Source: My peanus weanus of course :DDDDDD
>>341693069
sorry try not cry when you see this screenshot
>>341693151
sticker star sold over 2 million according to nintendo's own financials
i am sorry
>>341693310
>download
download codes never go down for console games for some fucking reason. maybe its because it's not an actual item that they need to move out for space or something idk but that shit's solid.
>>341693423
well TTYD sold 2.25 million so you need a fact checker there buddy.
>>341693310
>>341688463
You forgot a step, and this step is what REALLY burned people
>New Paper Mario announced via demos at e3
>All signs point to it being like the first 2, even has a chainchomp partner
>Nintendo goes silent until release/near release
>Its sticker star
>>341693310
msrp for a new copy or download code =/= what the game's going for. ebay's trending sales for new copies would be a much more valuable resource.
>>341693525
that's exactly what i said friendo
Paper Mario series continues it's steady sales among wailiing of TTYD fans who were left behind
> >>341693531
> used ebay
>>341693531
>ebay
pls
>>341693310
What now, faggot?
>>341692436
Why? She is right
>>341693841
> mexican peso?
I calmly dismiss it and the future of the Paper Mario series from my life
I hope nintendo shits on Mario & Luigi RPG next :^)
>>341694007
they already did with Paper Jam
>>341694007
they already did that with Dream Team
>>341694007
> being so bitter that she actually wants to spread her misery to fans she perceives as "enemy" for imagined some reason
awww
>>341687601
Almost all the faults of Sticker Star (Cards don;t seem to be as finite as Stickers thankfully), except now you don't even have the pleasure of unique bosses because they're all Koopalings.
>>341694078
Paper Jam is a solid L&M and return to form
sorry that not everyone are as miserable as you
>>341687462
If this flops will Nintendor learn their lesson?
>>341694078
That was AlphaDream trying to do a crossover with many new characters but thinking that their own story idea was shit, so they focused on the Paper/regular aspects of it..
>>341694239
>and return to form
You mean water down the gameplay from Dream Team and make it NSMB shit with only generic Mario enemies with 0 creativity?
>>341692639
>nope
I bought a copy of Sticker Star brand new at GameStop for $10 like two years ago.
>>341692826
>from what we've seen so far
the game is still a big step up from SS, It went from totally forgotten game, to "I might check this out", and like I said, having a reason to battle enemies even if it seems rather useless is what really matters to me.
>>341693841
The dollar is at 18.5?
How?
>>341694652
EPN
>>341694449
>You mean water down the gameplay from Dream Team
Not him but how did it water down the gameplay? It fixed Dream Team's biggest problem with the mandatory tutorials. AlphaDream are sure of a hell lot better to listening to feedback and are better devs then Intelligent Systems.
>>341694449
>NSMB shit with only generic Mario enemies with 0 creativity
speaking of 0 creativity
can't you make up new shitposting template?
this one is getting old after you reposted it thousands time over so many years
>>341694652
Chinese market and cheap fossil fuels
>>341694835
>Not him but how did it water down the gameplay?
she is just trolling and never played either games
>mfw bitter jaded paperfags are shitting on M&Lbros now because of that interview with the producer lady
Shit's not cool paperfags, we dindu nuffin.
>>341694885
It won't stop being true only because it's been said a lot, drone.
>>341688463
>Miyamoto or the devs themselves (I forget the development story) gut the original idea
It seemed to be a combined effort from many people. Miyamoto told them to not make it like the old ones, to tone down the original characters, and to scrap the heavy focus on writing. The sticker concept was already in place from earlier, no idea who was behind that. I think it might've been Tanabe who suggested having a "no level ups, you just get stronger items as you go" type system, which might've worked but when it was put in place along with the stickers it completely broke.
There's not a single person behind that mess who should get off the hook.
>>341695013
>mfw AlphaDream has already confirmed Paper Jam was a one-and-done deal and Mario & Luigi will return to original characters, environments, and plots in the next game
>mfw they dispute with Nintendo over things until they get their way
>mfw they don't take shit from Miyamoto unless his suggestions are actually good
The road ahead is looking bright.
>>341690413
It's like hate
It's like divorce
>>341695070
> confesses that in the last years she has been doing nothing spewing the same forced meme of hers
> calls other drones
>>341695013
if they're not happy for some imagined reason -- nobody is allowed to
Just let it go.
There hasn't been a proper paper maro game sinc TTYD.
Closest we've gotten was stick of truth.
>>341688463
>>341695840
You should add the new comments from the GameXplain Color Splash interview.
>as soon as sticker star development ended they had a huge party
>>341695013
Paperfag here, please don't become jaded as they are if M&L goes in the deep end.
Keyword "if"
>TTYD HD is a bonus pack-in game with Color Splash ala Star Fox Zero/Guard
Would it tempt you?
>Being able to see Flavio's ship in Smash 3DS as a stage with the beautiful rendition of Rogueports music
>Someone at Namco cares more about TYD than Intelligent Systems does
>Developer had to ASK in the interview for Color Splash if people would buy TYD HD
How fucked in the head is that
I'm more concerned with the "world" of the Mario RPGs. TYD setup that the two shared a world, so having paper Mario magically come from the paper dimension adds some seriously troubling multiversal questions.
I kind of dig a consistent world and continuity. I'd love to know what's happening in old parts of the world.
>>341695907
I didn't make that image
>>341688463
>Super Paper Mario released
>People say story sucked in club Nintendo reviews
>Nintendo decides to get rid of the story as a result
>>341696113
Nintendo hates continuity, especially in Mario, and they're clearly cracking down on the RPGs so you're never seeing that shit ever again.
>>341696067
>humble developer lady from Nintendo of Japan is supposed to be aware of the ire of bitter internet tards who direct all of their criticism to Nintendo of America, who does not make games, but localizes them
>>341695543
I can't imagine Tanabe being that NSMB crazy considering his name doesn't show up in Wii's or Wii U's credits at all.
So it has to either Miyamoto being insane or the Team just decided on their own that to make it "fit" in with mainline Mario.
>>341695907
Isn't that the normal thing to do after a major, year-long+ project? I mean, come on.
>>341687462
ive become one with toad, i have assimilated everything about toad to become him, thanks tanabe
>>341687462
>there are people in the world that can't tell apart "accept" from "except"
>there are people in the world that can't tell apart "then" from "than"
For fucks sake, I'm not even native and this shit is textbook levels of basic. Is it the burger education system or what?
>>341695013
Paperfag here.
I also like the M&L series
>>341696329
She must be mentally retarded then or have forgotten that Int Sys made the original 2 games.
Its like asking people if they want Half Life 3.
I hate this imaginary feud between paperfags and M&Lfags, stop fucking reinforcing the idea that it exists. I play and enjoy both series, seeing either of them go to shit is painful to me.
>>341696329
Yeah, developers probably should be aware of the fact that people hate their game. Are you saying they shouldn't be?
>>341696780
Paperfags really do like to downplay M&L though (it doesn't have the "charm" of paper mario, it doesn't have the "soul"!), it's not a meme. I've seen it frequently, moreso since Color Splash's announcement.
>>341696329
Most of the NoA directed criticism is their localization.
>>341696984
Anon this is /v/
>Nintendo listened to Club Nintendo Reviews precisely once
>the ONE TIME THEY LISTEN, it was to destroy a series that has one of the best games ever fucking made
there is no god
>>341696780
It's only going to get worse now that Nintendo has essentially pitted the two against each other and said one going to shit is because of the existence of the other.
>people defend this
>>341696780
Doesnt help that nintendo is now re-enforcing it.
Telling Paper fans to fuck off and play M&L
>>341697271
>"GamecubeGuy"
>so he is likely from the gamecube era
>which had TTYD
>yet he defends color splash
Mamma mia...????
>>341696262
That's clearly the worst case scenario, but IS clearly haven't abandoned it totally, there's still cameos and references in sticker star.
And alpha dream clearly have a running continuity of their own.
I just like when shit crosses over. TTYD having a bean person and chuckola cola was neat. Has there really been nothing since then? Paper fawful or popple or any of the other good M&L characters would be great.
>>341696984
I don't see those statements as hating on M&L. It's just reasons why M&L doesn't scratch the Paper Mario itch being poorly explained. I love M&L, but it lacks the charm of getting to know new party members.
I very very rarely ever talk to anyone that likes either series that doesn't like the other.
>>341696984
These types of people have only popped up recently in lieu of what >>341697229 describes, and I've seen plenty more people who like M&L being faggots towards Paper Mario fans. Regardless of it, there's no reason to be divided.
>>341697340
There's nothing wrong with liking TWO games, is there though, desu senpai?
>>341690470
Never played splatoon, is it any good?
>>341697334
>>341697229
That gamexplain interview really showed the truecolorsof the developer.
I dont see it as a way to pit the two fanbases against each other, more like now we know how truely asinine Nintendo is. And yet Pokemon Mystery Dungeon and the main line Pokemon games can peacefully co-exist.
All we need is two more "Stickerverse" games and there will be more bad Paper Mario games than good ones.
And unless Miyamoto retires it's pretty much guaranteed to happen.
>>341695597
They said Miyamoto only proposed the run button, which was a good idea.
>>341687462
No, I will not calm down and accept it.
The fact that this is on the Wii U makes me livid, because it's a clear statement that this is it, this is where the series is going and it's never coming back.
Fuck you, Nintendo, or Intelligent Systems or whoever the fuck decided that this was a good idea.
Fuck the people who claim that SS was a "good game, but a bad Paper Mario game"
FUCK.
