Why is Nintendo censoring the Dragon Quest logo?
Why can't the T be a sword in America?
No idea. But I wouldn't put it past SquareEnix thinking there needs to be yet another arbitrary change in the west. Just like every name gets changed for no reason.
Are you making this thread again?
I think it's a good change, the logo has a lot going on and removing the sword makes it look less busy, as well as making the "Dragon Quest" clearer to read.
Because SE don't want people to avoid the game because they think it's just another Dragon Ques.
You can still have it on other platforms!
>DQIV and V on DS have the sword T, but VI doesn't.
???
>>341678865
And it just looks sloppy when the logo keeps flipping back and forth. See >>341679278
It may be something as simple as Nintendo doesn't have access to using the Dragon Quest logo, which is trademarked by SquareEnix. It sounds stupid since they're releasing it for Squenix, but Squenix is a pretty dumb company. And may not have given them access to the trademark. Notice its using a 'Restricted' mark instead of TM (Trademark).
>>341679419
>>341679278
SquareEnix published DQIV, V and Heroes. Nintendo published VI and VII. Its either Nintendo or SquareEnix who is changing it.
>>341679598
Nintendo published all the DS games, and then the logo arbitrarily changed with 9, which then carried over to 6, which released after.
Oddly enough, the ports of all three DS remakes on mobile use the logo version without the sword, and Nintendo obviously didn't publish those.
Who cares what the reason is? If they're censoring it, that's wrong. Therefore just don't buy it.
The only one I have not played yet. I heard it is long.
Is Nintendo triggered by swords in logos now?
>>341679974
It can't just be Nintendo, because the mobile releases of IV, V, and VI don't have the sword either.
>>341679905
>Nintendo published all the DS games
No. SquareEnix themselves published and distributed IV, V, Joker and Rocket Slime. Nintendo published and distributed VI, IX and Joker 2.
>>341677941
This is obviously a simple design choice based on visual appeal.
No one is retarded enough to think a sword in the title would be too mature for kids. If you actually think differently, then you're trying way too hard to throw more on the "muh censorship" bandwagon.
>>341680264
No dude. Nintendo did.
That's the reason the games were brought over in the first place, because Nintendo was paying for it.
>>341680363
Yet this "simple design choice based on visual appeal" is not consistently done, and has yet to happen to a game on a Playstation system.
>>341680681
I'm not saying it wasn't Nintendo who changed it. I'm saying there's no fucking way the reasoning behind it was that it was too violent or mature and it needed to be censored. That's just stupid.
The T looks better as it is.
>>341679432
>>341678865
Make a Nintendo-friendly translation of this, /v/
>>341680945
"Be careful. If we fall here, they could make a slime out of what's left of us."
>>341680945
What the fuck, that looks exactly like the three games on DS
>>341681165
>>341681283
why you're posting nothing?
>>341681453
>>341678637
>Just like every name gets changed for no reason.
I really like Warriors of Eden for some reason, but I also really like Fragments of the Forgotten Past. Still, most of the Nip titles are good, not sure why they change them. I suppose it's the same reason they make arbitrary character name changes.
And huh, they really did change the log. That's weird. Maybe after all the complaints from people who can't read accents, they thought Americans wouldn't know that the sword represented a T.
>>341680945
>Please watch your step good xer, there's some cishets on the bottom who will trigger you if you fall! I have created a safespace up here for you, as a brave powerful womyn.
>>341680945
Wutch ev'ry step! If ye stumble, ye'll fall te tha boattum, shatterin' yer rib cage n' forcin' yer splin'ered ribs intae yer explodin' hart.
>Dragon QuesSword
???
>>341680945
>What your step! If you stumble your jimmies will really be rustled!
>>341680476
Nintendo brought over half of them. The ones I mentioned (plus Fortune Street). The other half were released by SE themselves. Nintendo took over releasing DQVI, IX and Joker 2 because SquareEnix gave up after V.
>>341681868
I can unironically see this being used by a hiker in the newer Pokemon games.
>>341682020
Except that's wrong.
Unless.. you can prove it?
>>341681808
10/10
>100 hours jrpg
>4 days before SMT4 Final
Its going to be a busy september
>>341681165
DS remakes were based on the DQ7 engine. DQ4 remake was released first on PS1, Square just ported the game for DS
Also DQ5 PS2 remake was based on the same engine too but with 3D graphics instead
>>341680945
>Watch every step! If you stumble, you won't have a body to get ready anymore!
>>341682156
Why don't you prove your statement?
In any event:
>Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime
>Publisher: SquareEnix
>no mention of Nintendo in either region
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Quest_Heroes:_Rocket_Slime
>Dragon Quest V
>Publisher: Enix SFC
>Publisher: SquareEnix NDS
>no mention of Nintendo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Quest_V:_Hand_of_the_Heavenly_Bride
>Dragon Quest IX
>Publisher: Nintendo NDS
>Publisher: SquareEnix NDS (JP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Quest_IX:_Sentinels_of_the_Starry_Skies
If you don't consider Wiki a good enough source, then post a better one that proves Nintendo released IV, V, Swords, Joker and Rocket Slime.
BECAUSE SWORDS LOOK LIKE DICKS AND WE CAN'T HAVE THAT
>>341682020
>Fortune Street
I really want a sequel, I don't care if is FF or Mario
>tfw Koichi Sugiyama made this arrangement
https://youtu.be/4ybN97qeq0U
>>341682912
It's on english in Mobile.
Enjoy your p2w.
I'm just gonna be that nag who points out that SquareEnix is localizing the game, while Nintendo is distributing it.
>>341682156
>Except that's wrong.
but it's not you fucking retard
it's well known that vi and ix were nintendo's doing
where the fuck are you getting that nintendo did all of them?
>>341682912
I'm the biggest DQ fag out there, but Fortune Street on Wii just wasn't as good as the other Itadaki Street games. Kind of miffed about that. At least it had Moonbrooke though. Oh, excuse me. PRINCESS PRINCESSIA!
>>341683018
Explain why every Nintendo published Dragon Quest game has had the T changed, while every other game that Nintendo has had no part in has kept the Sword
>>341683006
I was talking about the crossovers, not mainlineAlso I could play it but it's only in japanese
>>341682265
Yeah, September's going to be crazy for JRPG fans. I'm glad I'm not interested in Persona 5 or FF XV, and already played DQ VII, so I can just focus on SMT IV Final.
>>341680945
>Watch every step! If you fall, you'll be in for a world of hurt. So pain. Such death. Wow.
>>341683172
Why the fuck does she have blonde hair sometimes and purple hair other times
>>341683180
No idea. I theorized up at >>341679473 that it may be an issue with Trademarks and Restrictions. But it also could be Nintendo for all I know.
>>341683314
Nice ancient meme
>>341683320
Because sometimes she needs to be sexy, other times cute.
I'd just like to point people over to the /vr/ thread we have on Dragon Quest, in case this thread gets pruned or something. You know how the mods are with censorship threads.
>>>/vr/3210519
But, y'know, that thread's close to the bump limit, so it might not be up all that long anyway.
>>341679473
>>341683386
>Let a company publish your shit
>Don't give them legal access to your fucking logo
for what purpose
>>341683172
Actually, I prefer DS over the Wii remake
I don't know why I never really liked the Wii version, I had more fun with the original
>>341683429
But the purple haired one is cuter and sexier.
>>341683386
The problem with that theory is that all the Mobile versions of the DS games use the other, swordless logo, even 4 and 5 which originally did have the sword.
I'm pretty sure Square put those ones up.
>>341683539
>You know how the mods are with censorship threads.
Yeah, they're pretty pathetic these days. If I went back in time ten years and told 4chan what it'd become everyone would laugh, call me a faggot, and Snacks would ban me and demand CP if I wanted to be unbanned.
>>341682020
which explains why i could never find 4 and 5 at a single fucking store when it came out
>>341683429
>>341683320
In mobile (lol) she had orange hair.
I'm not sure what that is supposed to be, but I liked it.
Rate moonbrooke hairs:
[#] Purple
[#] Blonde
[#] Orange/Redhead
Replace # with an actual number 1-3, 1 being most favorite, 3 being least favorite, ties optional if you like 2 or all 3.
>>341683320
She had purple hair in the original MSX release of the game, but blonde for the Famicom/NES release. For the SNES remake, Toriyama kept the blonde hair. But then later releases of the games as well as DQIX and Victory RToad made it purple again.
Maybe its an ongoing joke with Horii and Toriyama. I prefer purple myself.
>>341683320
Purple is the original
Blonde is the remake
Also purple hair is the best hair
>>341683615
Welcome to SE's retarded adventure.
It's a ride you can't escape from.
>>341683854
>original MSX release
M8, it was released on Famicom first.
>>341683710
Then maybe its SquareEnix who is trying to phase out the logo for some unknown reason. But they're not doing it consistently since it has the sword on Heroes and Builders.
But this is SquareEnix. They're known for fucking up their own shit plenty.
>>341683832
>In mobile (lol) she had orange hair.
Does she? Ha. There's actually a chart to show what color her hair is in each game she's in on a Japanese wiki http://wikiwiki.jp/dqdic3rd/?%A1%DA%A5%E0%A1%BC%A5%F3%A5%D6%A5%EB%A5%AF%A4%CE%B2%A6%BD%F7%A1%DB#w1cf8889
Not entirely related, but I translated some doujins yesterday where Moonbrook's evil blonde counterpart raped the shit out of good Moonbrook and turned her into a cumdump. I thought the the concept was funny just because of the characters.
>>341683854
>bottom left
what is going on there
>>341680945
"Watch fer holes!"
>3 more months
>>341684207
something hot
>>341684207
In the MSX version of the game, there was an easter egg where you could see a 'dirty' version of Moonbrooke. I think from checking one of the shelves (IE: a book).
Is Kiefer the Vegeta of DQVII
>>341684162
You can go ahead and link that doujin I guess, you know for preservation
>>341684480
>I think from checking one of the shelves (IE: a book).
Not even close.
Google and try again.
>>341684417
>was just about to play Final Fantasy V yesterday
>hear this news
>decide to play something else as not to burn out on class based games before a 150 hour class based game
>>341677941
why the fuck does every change (even something as minor as changing the "t" in "dragon quest") have to be "muh censorship?"
>>341684636
Because muh censorship
>>341684562
No.
He's the robb stark of DQVII.
>>341684616
Since you seem to know, why don't you just correct him?
>wah SPOONFEEDING!
>>341684765
Why don't you quit being a little bitch?
>>341684740
>Game of Thrones reference
>>341684865
>>341684765
why don't you two suck each others dicks and let me watch, fuccbois?
>>341677941
I know next to nothing about this series, but I would guess because it vaguely resembles a cross, which could possibly upset some wealthy conservatives.
>>341684923
>knowing it's a game of thrones reference
>>341684865
>I just want to contradict people! Don't spoil my fun!
Why don't you?
>>341684980
>not knowing references of things you don't even follow
It's like you don't have a totally useless knowledge base of trivia nobody gives a fuck about.
>>341684954
Sadly, you're probably not too far off.
>>341684592
Well, I can link the raws, but not the English versions because:
- They don't exist yet
- They were officially licensed translations, so I couldn't spread them if I wanted to. Sorry. Fortunately public scans have been on the internet for years, so they're fine.
http://exhentai.org/g/629460/a62174982f/
http://exhentai.org/g/629191/3f0636fbb5/
>>341684704
i mean, i can get not liking the change, but muh censorship seems about as flimsy an excuse as being triggered by something
>>341685108
Raws are fine too, ta
>>341685108
>officially licensed translations
>of dragon quest hentai
square is the best company
NoA has been making a lot of really inconsistent changes to shit lately. Just look at that SMTxFE idolshit game and all the edits that were made.
I remember way back, maybe like 6 or 7 years ago, there was a thread on /a/ wondering about some of the confusing changes 4kids made to their anime. Not just stuff like removing blood and cigarettes, but they made some really weird edits like pic related. They would just completely erase signs in the background of pokemon episodes, even if there was no Japanese and featured just the picture of a pokeball; they would randomly change the color of character's clothing on One Piece, and on a few occasions, even painted over Luffy having an open mouth smile, to having a closed mouth smile. Then there was the fact that 4kids made the 2003 Ninja Turtles cartoon that contained violence and weapons that they would censor out of their anime.
An anon spoke up that claimed to have worked for 4kids in the department that did those edits. He said that they had a list of items that they would have to keep an eye out for and edit out and then the episodes would be sent off and reviewed to make sure all "objectionable" content was removed. He said that back in the Pokemon days, the team came up with a scam. They would edit out all the things that they were required to edit out, and then start making discrete changes throughout episodes as an easy way to get some overtime pay. They really kicked this up during One Piece, as 4kids was well aware that it was a show with a lot of episodes, and a lot of violent content that would need to be edited out. For all the people higher up knew, the guys in the digital painting department were racking up so much overtime because editing One Piece was such a daunting task.
I have to wonder if the people in the Treehouse are pulling a similar scam. Making all kinds of inconsistent and confusing edits in order to get some overtime pay.
Is the remake good and tones down the craziness of 7's length?
>>341684162
Thank you, Google Translate.
You never fail to amuse me.
Also, I guess it could be "blonde" or "strawberry blonde", but the hue is definitely closer to orange in-game. Unlike other DQ2s where it is clearly fucking yellow, same with sumaltria/cannock's.
That said
>lorasia's hair being white in monster battle road
What the fuck were they thinking?
>>341685279
We've already established that this can't be Nintendo's doing because of the Mobile releases.
>>341685261
>DQ
>square
>>341685092
What the fuck happened here?
>>341685324
The remake is faster for sure. The job system got balanced, so stuff like Swords Dance won't roflstomp the game like in the original
>>341685279
>we're already on a sinking ship with no hope of escape, so we might as well burn ourselves alive while we're at it
Fucking brilliant.
>>341683854
The topleft corner is from the Famicom boxart though. She's purple there.
>>341685279
The overtime scam is really the only thing that makes sense to me. I can't imagine any other reason someone would change the color of a shirt or modify a smile. If not that, then I've got no idea at all.
>>341685279
What >>341685407 said, I think Squeenix just changed the logo for some of the games for no apparently reason.
So, is Maribel the original tsundere like the DQ producers say she is?
>>341685639
>remake is faster
>Swords Dance won't stomp the game like in the original
You picked a pretty odd example there.
>>341685372
Pfft. Lorasia having white hair is smalltime.
The changes they made to Loto's Descendant is fucking insane.
>>341685372
Ha, that's because 金 means money and it also means gold.
>There was strike Wii
>>341681808
>underated post
>>341677941
Just when I thought Nintendo couldn't get any dumber...
>>341680945
I don't know about a Nintendo translation but if it's anything like a /v/ comic translation it'll be
>Watch every step!
that's all
>>341685556
Yes. Square Enix owns Dragon Quest.
Square Enix is often shortened to Square.
Square owns Dragon Quest.
>>341685279
>NoA has been making a lot of really inconsistent changes to shit lately. Just look at that SMTxFE idolshit game and all the edits that were made.
So...one example. You also forgot the 3DS Fire Emblem games. But two games is not worth this endless 'muh censorship' shitposting. SquareEnix themselves have done far worse over the years.
>>341685782
>original
Anime existed fucking years before DQ7 on PS1, so no. Not even close.
Here's one example from the 70s.
>>341686135
>anime exist before Evangelion
>implying Asuka is not the original tsundere
>>341685372
It's missing the MSX version.
>>341685847
You mean Kenshin?
I consider him a separate version myself. Same with the Lora with amazingly pink hair.
Swordmaster is pretty much just an alternate-telling of 1 (because we all know Zoma would have kicked the shit out of Descendant's Level 30 capped ass)
>>341679908
If someone actually refuses to buy DQVII because they changed the fucking sword in the logo, which isn't a new change, mind you, I feel bad for them. That would probably be the most fucking autistic thing I can think of.
>>341685279
NoA have no artists or graphic designers or programmers. They can't make any of the fucking changes, only send the changes they want back to whomever, then approve them when they are done. In this case, they tell SE they don't like the sword and it gets removed.
Clearly someone thinks the sword makes the title harder to read and/or looks like shit. Personally I agree with both, but I'd like it to remain anyway.
Who wants to bet the "little slave girl" joke will be gone from the localization?
>>341686270
Anno was a mistake and should have shot himself decades ago.
>>341686329
But he looks dumb now.
>>341685582
His sword's design was changed in the localization because it looked too much like a cross.
>>341686421
Every joke will be gone from the localization, except the localization itself.
>remembering that Jester/Goof-Off has a tell joke skill
Fucking hell, this is gonna suck.
Oh boy, I can't wait to hear the one about the brit walking into the pub at 12 o bong.
>>341686391
Nintendo hasn't localized a Dragon Quest game since the original for NES.
>>341686541
Like I said, I don't consider them the same guy.
You know, just like I don't consider these guys to be the same as their originals, despite them also being designed by their original staff.
While I'm on the subject, Ayame Kojima's version of Simon Belmont also sucks ass.
>>341686421
I don't remember a little slave girl joke. Where was it?
>>341686669
Not to mention, every name change from their published games are from that dumbass Honeywood.
>makes retarded name changes to the cast of VI for the legacy shit in IX
>VI needs to use the changes to keep consistency
>dude has a fucking translation bible for the series
>>341686848
Except they made him the same guy starting with Battle Road.
They're the same guy. That is the official look of the Descendant now.
>>341686921
>makes retarded name changes to the cast of VI for the legacy shit in IX
Localizers can be so inconsistent with that.
>Tales of Destiny
>Change Woodrow to Garr for some fucking reason
>Keep the name Garr in Tales of Graces f
>Keep Shing as Shing, change Kohaku to Amber, change Hisui to Jadeite
>This is fine because it's the first time they've appeared in the English games
>A couple years later, change Shing to Kor, and revert the other two's names to their Japanese names
>>341677941
Americans will think it reads "Dragon Ques"
>>341686669
Why are you replying to me? I didn't even mention localization.
>>341686921
Oh god, 6 got it really bad with the localization.
A fucking he-man reference, an insomnia joke, all that other horrible shit.
I can't wait to find out what we're in for with 7.
>>341686921
Honeywood stopped working for SE in like mid-2000s.
The problem though is that all of the other retards at SE followed suit, but ONLY for DQ.
FF, Mana, even SaGa (somehow, and thankfully) do not follow suit at all.
>>341686983
BR also changed the look of Cannock, but didn't keep it for successive appearances.
>>341687360
Do you mean the DS or original VI?
I actually appreciate VI because it doesn't have lots of retarded accent like IV and V (mostly Sancho but fuck its terrible)
>>341687336
But you are. You were specifically talking about changes made to a game when it comes overseas, in this case NoA with Dragon Quest. That's generally called Localization.
But the problem is Nintendo hasn't been localizing the Dragon Quest games they've been publishing. The only time Nintendo has localized a Dragon Quest game was when they brought over the original Famicom release to NES.
>>341687363
I really wish I could work on a Dragon Quest localization someday just to see exactly what goes on and who mandates the name changes.
>>341687613
The original 6 was never localized, so yeah I mean the DS version.
>>341687683
I'm talking about changes to the title screen and box art. Which clearly are things Nintendo asked for. It has nothing to do with whether or not they localized the game.
>>341687945
>Which clearly are things Nintendo asked for.
See >>341685407
>>341687741
According to an 8-4 podcast. the name changes were part of a 'Localization Bible' that Richard Honeywood put together. Where he changed every characters name not only for the games he worked on, but every game up to DQIX. And even after Richard Honeywood left (around the time DQIV was finished), the Japanese side of SquareEnix kept telling Plus Alphas and 8-4 to use his name changes.
>>341680945
>...
>...
>...!
>>341687363
Well the heavy use of accents seeped into plenty of other series. The rogue quests in FFXIV are almost unplayable. Someone in SE just has a massive hard on for accents.
>>341688078
Fucking why
His shit sucks
>>341688078
Well that sounds dumb as hell. Wonder if they're using his names for "Ruff", "Mervyn", and "Aishe" then.
>>341688223
Please don't tell me you think that the top one is in hard to understand, or that Zappa's is in any way difficult.
>>341688041
>We've already established that this can't be Nintendo's doing because of the Mobile releases which happened after Nintendo's own releases with the altered logo.
That proves nothing, they probably just had that logo in a higher resolution, hence why other DQ games keep the sword in the logo. Try again.
>>341679432
>>341679432
my dick looks sloppy flipping back and forth but the ladies still do sex towards and upon it
i may as well ask here. How is the 3ds dq8 hold up? I never finished dq8 back in ps2 era so im wondering between the extra content and the downgrades visuals if its worth getting or just emulate the ps2 version
>>341681117
Sounds about right.
http://tinycartridge.com/post/5885571735/why-nintendo-replaced-the-sword-in-dragon-quests
> Nutt: I have one silly question, and this will be the last question. What do you think about the fact that Nintendo changed the T inDragon Questfrom a sword to a T because I don’t like it in the logo for the American version?
> Noriyoshi Fujimoto (Square Enix producer): That’s actually Nintendo’s decision.
> Horii: Some people said that what they heard from Nintendo was that having the sword as a T was a little childish.
American gamers have some machismo problem and are always obsessed about whether something is "kiddy" or not.
Nintendo probably found that their focus groups prefer the logo without the sword.
>>341688431
Not him, but remind me again how one says "arrch". In addition, please tell me why everything else in the sentence besides "dinnae" is in normal english?
>>341688431
>implying any of them are hard to read
i bet you faggots have a hard time with reading this article, too
https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_leid
>>341688127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wjaX0orUSM
>>341688506
Yes, but your dick isn't going to be put in a logo anytime soon, now is it?
>>341688820
My opinion is that they shouldnt flipflop around the title design since its what represents your series but i can understand why they did it
>>341688820
>Nintendo
>childish is bad
So I guess they just recycled the DS games' logo for the mobile versions?
>>341689080
It's the angry eyebrows all over again.
>>341689065
don't contradict me in ppublic
>>341688636
- Shittier graphics
- Some censorship
- Two new characters, who are both great
- Two new dungeons, though one is just a series of buffed up bosses
- Auto maps for all but one dungeon
- On screen encounters
- Instant alchemy
- Save anywhere
- Picture sidequest
- New SS rank in the arena
- Can see how much EXP you need to level up in the menu
- New costumes
Probably forgetting some stuff.
>>341689176
Did someone say angry?
>>341689232
ill contraDICK you faggot
>>341681808
This is probably the most accurate one.
>>341689307
i'll contradict you in pube-lick gayboy
Honestly it doesn't even strike me as a sword, it looks more like a gem or diamond or something.
>Ruff
I could deal with Hassan being renamed Carver as a pun but Gabo to Ruff is completely fucking stupid. Its like if they renamed Maribel to Bitch or Jessica to Tittica
>>341678637
I hear localizers get paid per change
So you get arbitrary changes that are unnecessary like this, when companies give their localizers too much freedom
>>341689446
when and where lets do this
>>341688431
Its not about being hard to read. Its about being cheesy and stupid. The accents are an insult to the dialects they're trying to imitate. As well as people who use those dialects don't fucking write that way.
>>341688959
Arrch? Have you never heard that before? It's kind of a hard "kh" sound. "Aakh". "ah" is pretty obvious "I" and "dinnae" can be figured out through context if you don't already know it. Seriously, I figured this shit out as a wee lad.
>>341688965
I didn't, they're all pretty easy, but saying that seems to upset some people, so I ignored the DQ one.
>>341689513london
>>341688820
>The Legend of Zelda can have a sword in the logo
>but Dragon Quest can't
>>341688820
That is absolutely incredible.
>>341678865
The sword T is the most iconic part about the logo. I guess NoA thinks people are too stupid to realize it's a stylized T, just like they got rid of the slash from the Warriors logo in HW.
>>341689501
That is not how it works at all. If it was the case, nothing would ever come out.
>>341689483
>renamed Maribel to Bitch
That would actually make sense.
>>341689501
Those are just unproven theories.
>>341688820
>Nintendo
Since the petition for DQVII seemed to get their attention, how about we start a petition to fire everyone at NoA and replace them with people who aren't incompetent retards
>>341689276
If it's worth mentioning the load times are slightly slower.
>>341685092
>>341684954
I wouldn't put it past them.
>>341689545
>As well as people who use those dialects don't fucking write that way.
Well yeah, so you should never use them in written material, but text boxes are fine.
Seriously, I've never heard anyone bitch about accents in a video game before I started coming to Dragon Quest threads. I agree that they're absolute shit in Dragon Quest IV (maybe V and VI too, I haven't seen much of them), but they're handled fine in other games. I think DQ fans are just scarred from Plus Alpha's shitty localizations and overreact to accents.
>>341690074
NoA employees follow orders from NoA management, which follows directives from NoJ
The problem isn't the employees or even NoA. The problem is Nintendo.
>>341690164
>so you should never use them in written material, but text boxes are fine.
I'll clarify because I just know some moron is going to say something about this.
By written material, I mean notes written by game characters. There's no reason for "nuffink" to appear in a note. Text boxes that pop up when you talk to a character represents speech though, not handwriting.
>>341689483
>Its like if they renamed Maribel to Bitch
WAIT A MINUTE LAD
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA
>>341690164
That's because not everybody in an entire fucking game spoke full of accents, dialects, and puns SOLELY IN TEXT FORM when there were none, or at least, extremely few in the original script.
Even in fucking shit like bioware, you'd have normal ass text boxes of english.
>>341689276
>>341690080
Alright, thanks. Seems like its worth a buy. Ill see if i can pick it up on the cheap
>>341690408
Thing is though, this shit happens even in written text in DQ. I distinctly remember it
>>341690291
Then why was Xenoblade not even going to come to the states despite full translation? Same with terrigma
>>341687235
This is likely the correct answer. Americans have struggled with the English language a lot throughout history. That's why they had to completely respell half the words in the language, it's so it's easier for Americans to understand it.
>>341688820
>it actually WAS Nintendo
well fuck me sideways
but that doesn't explain why the mobile versions of IV, V, and VI all use the swordless logo
>>341689276
>- Some censorship
NOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo
>>341690786
>Even in fucking shit like bioware, you'd have normal ass text boxes of english.
Probably because they have voice acting.
>That's because not everybody in an entire fucking game spoke full of accents, dialects, and puns
I'm not defending that. I told you that they're handled like shit in DQ but text based accents aren't inherently bad like DQ fans try to make people believe. I've never heard a single person complain about Stan Shunpike's thick as fuck accent in Harry Potter.
>But he's only one rare character!
Yes, I know, but based on DQ fan logic he's unbelievably shit and ruins everything he's in for speaking in an accent in written form.
>>341690902
I know, that's shit, that's why I mentioned it.
>>341691084
Deal, pussy.
Greedy old Horii wants that Cero A, so he's going to make your D into zero.
>>341690408
Your clarification is stupid justification. You made distinction that dialects will look cheesy if a character wrote a note, but not when the player has to read the characters dialogue? I ge the distinction you are trying to make, but its still just plain dumb since we the viewer still have to read it.
Plus, its a pointless argument. Since there have been books and notes in DQ games. And they did fully translate them into the dialect anyway. Like the notes and signs all over Pickham are written in broken Cockney. Not to mention this shit.
>>341691084
Some of Jessica's costumes (even the Mysterious Bustier, they covered up her thighs for fuck's sake), a titty witch enemy has slightly more boob coverage, Gelda/Red wears shorts now, Marcello blasts his arm instead of stabbing it, and there's no forced dog food eating.
>>341690985
Laziness on SE's part.
>>341691282
>one rare character
Who what now?
>>341691430
How is it laziness when the Swordless Logo didn't exist in the first place for IV and V?
To support >>341691335
This shit also happens in other language localizations, making the process take even longer than it should. On top of that, they use different name/item/place/dialect/pun changes on a per language basis.
Plus, some languages' localizations are even more shit, throwing in pointless ass real-world references as well as those to other media.
>>341691565
Because they could have fixed it, but they didn't.
>>341691335
>but its still just plain dumb since we the viewer still have to read it.
Not really, because the text boxes when you talk to characters are supposed to represent speech. So it's absolutely fine IF the writer doesn't go overboard and sound either cheesy as fuck or makes it really hard to read (DQ's are cheesy as fuck, not hard to read).
Text boxes that pop up when you read notes and signs however should be written normally in most occasions since people don't write the way they speak. I can't possibly make this any clearer.
>>341691430
>Who what now?
E' doesn't remember Stan, Ern!
But whatever. It is a pointless argument, so meh. People are going to hate what they want to hate.
>>341691741
That doesn't make sense.
It takes more effort to make new logos for IV and V than it does to make a new one for just VI.
I can't believe people are complaining about a fucking logo.
>>341690985
Probably just trying to be consistent with the newest releases which Nintendo had done.
>>341691982
You're going to find that the more you learn about localizations, the more they seem to do exactly what takes the most effort and makes the least amount of sense. Its the only profession I know of where people actively try and find the hardest way to do something.
>>341684562
But Kiefer is a complete brountil he decides to ditch you for a ho
>>341692581I heard you can get him back in the 3DS version
>>341692567
I'm glad porn translation is pretty chill. I doubt normal manga translation is much worse. I'd kinda like to be involved in video game localization at some point because I love games, but at the same time I never want to do it for various reasons, one of which is the insanity involved. If it was with a decent company it'd probably be fine.
>>341692471
The logo is the most iconic part about Dragon Quest after the Slime and NoA butchered it because Americlaps are too stupid to grasp stylization.
>>341692893
You can't. I remember those rumors, but I don't remember what started them. I researched it, but it was just a rumor.
>>341693186
I'd say the music, some other characters and monsters are more iconic than the logo. Especially outside Japan.
>>341693319
Oh, and of course Akira Toriyamas style is probably the most iconic part of all. Which encompasses the Slime and everything else.
>>341693319
>>341693447
If they tried to slap the swordless T logo in any of the games in Japan, the entire fandom there would throw a shitfit. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. This is the same fandom that threw a fit with IX's original concept.
>>341692581
>a ho
Nah man. Not like he went for Maribel.
>>341692893
You heard wrong.
If you're talking about level 99 kiefer, then that'sjust grotto grinding.
>>341693449
The only thing I'm glad that the 3DS really, REALLY fixed, was the horizontal proportions on characters. I thought it was my TV at first, but they actually are stretched out like that in the sprites themselves.
>>341692581
It's ok, I'm going to fuck his great great granddaughter.
>>341693606
Trust me, I think the change is stupid. I think any changes are stupid since like you said, if it worked in Japan, they shouldn't fuck with it. I'm just saying the logo isn't quite as big as some other things.
The fact that SquareEnix just can't figure out that a winning formuhla shouldn't be fucked with is mind boggling. They've done everything from try to hide Akira Toriyama's designs to remove classic DQ sounds to change every characters. Instead, they should be embracing its connections to Dragon Ball and Chrono Trigger. As well as allowing Nintendo to market the shit out of it. Its been 15 years since Nintendo started collaborating with SquareEnix. We should have had Dragon Quest Monsters ads released in every Pokemon game box and a fucking Dragon Quest character in Smash Bros. The only thing stopping this is SquareEnix pride.
>>341693860
I honestly don't understand what they were thinking with the design of DQVII. It looks worse than DQVI on SNES. The later DS games improved the design. But DQVII on PS1 for some reason just looked like someone made a 240i game and stretched it to 480i. Not just the characters, but the backgrounds and items as well.
>>341680363
But Nintendo did the same thing to Hyrule Warriors in the West.
>>341685782
No, that would be Sayaka from Mazinger
>>341677941
>>341684954
>>341685092
Because SJW will say it is a phallic reference.
>>341694216
Fair point. Enix did mention Akira and Dragon Ball in the games they localized before the merger, albeit in a lesser form.
>>341694407
>It looks worse than DQVI on SNES.
The SNES games actually look really damn nice. DQIII especially.
>>341694407
>It looks worse than DQVI on SNES
Whoa, now.
I wouldn't go that far.
DQ6sfc is pretty fucking ugly. Hassan looks like he's always constipated and Chamoro looks dreadful. Plus for years, I thought this thing was actually a dog-faced creature with a tattoo on its arm that swung its sword oddly.
Imagine my surprise when it wasn't.
>Decide to look into Dragon Quest Heroes
>Oh it has reps from 5 too I wonder if-
>Bianca and Nera
>No best wife Debora
>Oh well I heard there's a sequel maybe it will-
>No Debora, replaces Yangus with Angelo
How does SE get away with it?
>>341695446
Because DQH2 also has Moonbrooke and Maribel. I can literally make a team of all four of my favorite girls.
>>341695359
>It's a guy holding a shield with a face on it that can move and shit.
Only reason I realized this was because I have seen the Dragon Quest 8 version of these guys.
>>341695446
Debora isn't canon.
>>341695446
>tfw your computer is too shit to handle DQH
>tfw your """""support""""" for paying for it probably won't do anything to Square "Yuji Horii stop talking to those fucking gaijins" Enix to make it clear we're getting DQH2
>>341695446
I kinda wonder what Angelo's purpose is going to be. In 8 he was for healing. In Heroes Jessica was the healer. In Heroes 2 you can equip almost anyone with healus
Wonder if Jessica will still have hustle dance in 2, it's cute but it locks her in place for a while compared to casting healus or using a stone. Maya's gameplay was changed and is way better now so maybe jessica will be worth more than hustle dancing
>>341695671
Dragon Quest Heroes isn't canon.
>>341695446
Speaking of Debora, I'm surprised her name didn't get changed. I talked to Plus Alpha once and was told that they wanted to call her "Grace" because it means "grey" in some language, and it'd fit with the black/white theme they were going with with the other wives when they changed Flora's name to Nera, but it wasn't approved. I just have to wonder how all the other name changes in the game, including one of the three wives, were approved, but Debora to Grace was not.
>>341694815
3 looks better than 6 because the characters were scaled up and more detailed from their NES originals. 6 tried to cram in what was arguably the most designed-out characters in the series at that point into teensy little rectangles, which seriously did not support that.
Look at this. How are you going to keep this 100% accurate at 16x23 pixels? Ridiculous
>>341696353
I don't get why they changed Flora's name to Nera at all. Her name was actually a pun on flowers and her being delicate in Japanese and then they ditched the obvious pun that's fine just to change her name to some other pun that nobody would ever catch
>>341696353
SE is retarded. That's how.
Or maybe it didn't sound TUTTI FRUUTI enough.
>>341696552
Damn, I didn't know. I have the SFC cart but I haven't gotten around to playing it yet.
>>341696725
Fuck you,. I liked bolognesa dad the most.
>>341679905
They only published 6 and 9 retard
>>341696672
>Her name was actually a pun on flowers and her being delicate
Huh. I never thought of her being delicate being a reference to flowers. What they told me is that there was a black/white theme going on in the game.
>There is a running black/white theme in the game, with all the chess board references, too.
If there is, I didn't catch it, but I've only played once. I actually don't remember chessboards in DQ V, all I remember are sugoroku boards.
>>341677941
Who cares about the logo, the game itself has censored random encounters out of it.
Think of the ADD children, eh?
>>341696853
I mean, going the other way around, really gives you more freedom to fix things.
Look at this. The designs HAD to be simple.
>>341697156
>censored random encounters
>>341697014
I think they made up whatever they're talking about and nobody caught it. Because I sure don't recall anything of the sort.
>>341697014
Your castle has all the soldiers really in to chess when you arrive, and you can get a chessboard from them to put in your museum. It also had some of the bosses named after chess pieces (Ladja the bishop and her two cronies, rook and knight), 'course that's probably english version only.
>>341697014
>I actually don't remember chessboards in DQ V, all I remember are sugoroku boards.
Ladja the bishop, Kon the knight, Slon the Rook
>>341696926
That's because he's cool when he's not being a douche. Not because of his accent.
>There is a running black/white theme in the game, with all the chess board references, too.
They added it in the localization.
So you have characters like Jami being renamed Kon the Knight and the final boss is now called the "Grandmaster".
>>341697332
Chess is just chess, even in the jap version.
They're probably playing chess and shit because their fucking king is DEAAAAAAAAAAD and they have nothing to do.
>>341696672
>>341697014
The team heading the translations is legitamitely retarded. And I don't mean 8-4, but whoever in Japan is in charge of localizations. Most likely Fujimoto since he's the one who decided not to localize VII and X.
>>341697236
Fuck, you're right. I also have the SFC cart of DQIII, which I also haven't got to yet. I'm really excited to play it because it looks fun as fuck. I'm currently onDQII.
>>341677941
Americans have enough trouble reading as it is.
>>341697332
>Your castle has all the soldiers really in to chess when you arrive, and you can get a chessboard from them to put in your museum.
Oh yeah, I remember that name. Those chess names are definitely an English invention though. In Japan, the wizard is Gema, the horse is Jami, and the other guy... I always forget the other guy's name.
>>341680945
Watch every step! If you stumble, you'll look like a goobergater at a feminist rally!
>>341697651
What does "at all" means here because that sounds like BS
>>341697651
Yet they can read broken accents apparently
>>341697672
No one really cares about other guy. He's not a bitch ass wizard who sells you into slavery as a kid and petrifies you as an adult, and he's not an invincible rape horse who steals your wife either.
Should I just skip out on playing VIII to focus VII? I'll probably get VII when it comes out, but I've always wanted to play VIII, but I also have a HUGE backlog.
>>341690528
In the original game, renaming characters to bad words was allowed. However, it would anger "the God of Naming" and if you ever wanted to change it again, you would need to pony up 5000 gold per change.
Thankfully, reaching into your Cunt to use a potion never gets old.
