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>it's a "lucio picked with a team comp that won't stay grouped together" episode

lets talk about when you SHOULDN'T play a hero
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You should never play Hanzo
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>Have a Reinhardt
>Pick Zarya to give use some DPS and some good survivability
>Rock straight through point Alpha
>Then Rein changes to Genji

Why do this?
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>>341672945
>>it's a "lucio picked with a team comp that won't stay grouped together" episode

And thats all it fucking is any more.
Even on objective push maps.

Always a fucking Hanzo, a Genji and at least two Offense who run ahead to poorly attempt to murder the other team way ahead of the objective.

Thats all its been this whole week.
What the fuck.
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>pick Genji
>two other peopel Genji after me
>are you fucking kidding me
>wait a few seconds for someone to change
>no one changes
>leave game
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>>341674168

Thank God I'm not the only one who noticed this. I thought I was going insane. Everyone insta-locking the fragile Offenses and then failing with them the entire time. And they decide they have the expertise to tell the Tanks and Healers how to do their jobs.

I have not played an Offense or Sniper class for 30 games. Thirty fucking games.
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>>341674654
>I have not played an Offense or Sniper class for 30 games.

Maybe you should just go ahead and play them. You clearly need to increase your matchmaking MMR so you don't have complete noobs on your team.
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>>341675157

They don't have any ranked mode yet so it's moot point.
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>>341674421
I had a game like that early today. Someone complained that we needed a tank
So everyone went Winston
The enemy team countered by going all Reaper
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>it's a "your entire team will not even step on point B at Hanamura when the overtime clock is running out because they are afraid of dying at the very last second of the game" episode.

Kill me.

Why does no one understand that you need to just throw yourself on the point @ the last few seconds.
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>>341674168
this happened to me also one of the guys started yelling at me because he died 10 times.
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>>341672945
>bad team comp for lucio
>pick mercy instead
>dumb ass teammates don't protect you from 24/7 flanks and have no map awareness at all
>become as useful as a sack of shit
lucio is generally useful in every situation, at least he can stay alive
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You should never not pick 76
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>>341675412
a couple of days ago, I had a three Hanzo game and not a single one switched for the entire game
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>>341672945
>It's a "Widowmaker that can't shoot for shit is on our team" episode
>Mfw it turns out I'm stuck for the whole season
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>another overwatch thread
Into the trash it goes
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what did he mean by this?
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>Picking D.va ever
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>>341673035
agreed. I seem to have one every single round on my team. Just seems useless.
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>>341674421
Genji is a counter pick. If anyone picks him to start a match withoutknowing other team lineup they are retarded and i just pick genji as well in hopes the dead weight gets off my fucking team.
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>it's a "everyone on the other team went torb and you're the only junkrat" episode
Not sure why no one will cheese when the other guys are cheesing so hard. I'd pop off a few grenades and then hear like 3 molten cores and then get chased by a bunch of dwarves on fire.

Worse part is the tanks tend to be pussies too.
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>>341676013
Genji is a useful first pick on many objective maps when you're attacking, but otherwise I agree
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>>341676013
Correction, genji is a counter pick or a pick for good players which everyone thinks they are.
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>>341675632
You should never give advice.
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>it's a "6 torbs on numbani defense" episode

glhf
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>Just went 12-0 as Winston attacking Hanamura
>Even got POTG @ the last second with Ult

Hi there!

Anyway,

Hanzo can be good in the right hands, but his Sonic Arrow needs a faster cooldown definitely.

I almost never see anyone use it either.

Which makes a lot of sense actually - someone thinks it doesn't do any damage when picking Hanzo, and they wont even bother using it. Fucking idiots.

Don't think ranked will change this either. You'll still be paired up with instalock genji/hanzos.
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>>341675373
Sir, are you aware of the difference between "normal MMR" and "ranked MMR"? Many games have them.
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>>341676181
But anon Toblerone with red pepper flakes is the bane of all tanks. He can shred you in like two seconds.
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>>341672945

>3-4 Offensive characters
>1-2Hanzo or Widowmaker
>I play Rein cuz we need a tank
>One guy complains all match that we need a healer but won't switch
> If I switch we won't have a tank

Why are people in this game will so selfish?
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>>341676352
SAVED
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>>341672945
>picking widow on attack
I wish I could hit people that did this
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>>341676348
Hanzo has the most retarded bullshit of any character in a video game. He's never any fucking good, his ult is retarded, but he always manages to get some completely bullshit kill by spamming arrows in your general direction.
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>ATTACK
>2 widomaker
kill me
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AN EPISODE OF WHAT

A VIDEO GAME
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>>341675748
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>>341676441
Cause they know what they need, but refuse to compromise their Fun Factor when they are already on a 0-3 K/D and have contributed nothing, but they are having FUN!
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Gee, cancer game has cancer players

Who would've guessed?
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The best part about this game is getting bullied into playing heroes you don't want to play. Join match seconds late to hero selection? Congratulations, you're either support or tank and your team will bitch at you for the whole match if you play anything else.

Community is a joke.
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>Attack
>Tell people we need a tank to get through
>"You do it"
>I'm the healer
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>>341676181
Widowmaker is better counter. Junkrst sucks at killing torb in common 6 torb stack maps. They are too high or you have to enter site of multiple tirrets to hit them and you cant kill the torb which means he just drops another turret instantly. Widowmaker is only true counter since you can kill the turrets AND the torb and force him to respawn and walk back. 2 or 3 widows end the torb threats in seconds. Junkrats sit behind cover trying to angle a shot and he just repairs through it or repositions slightly and 6 torbs and turrets still raping you.
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>>341675619
>lucio runs out in front of everyone and dies
>he does this again and again
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>mfw I play Lucio/Reinhardt almost every game because people only wanna play offense and defence heroes
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>>341676518
Arrow hitbox is bigger and the arrow itself and the characters head hitbox is WAY bigger than it seems.
I've been "headshot" so many times by arrows that were 5 feet away from me
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>>341676470
I actually switched from junkrat to widow today with payload offense. The enemy had two bastions and a mercy and we were stuck at the last bend cuz of those three. Cheesed the mercy, one of the bastions and gave the team infrared so we spotted the tuttetborn around the corner. I regret nothing
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>>341676470
>not picking the best character in game

For what reason would you not want someone with free wall hacks up every 2 mins or so and who gets 20-30 solo kills while destroying all turrets/bastions/supports so team can push throughout the match?
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>>341672945
>Numbani
>Pick Lucio
>Entire team sticking together on payload
>D.Va spamming: "I NEED HEALING!"
>D.Va hiding in some retarded place hard to reach
>Too far away from everyone
>"I NEED HEALING HEAL ME STUPID LUCIO"
>Everyone telling her to stop being a fucking retard
>He dies and goes AFK
>Still win
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>>341676556
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>>341676354
That's why I'm glad more people don't play Toblerone. In many respects, he's an alternate version of McCree.

>140 dmg with no falloff (McCree's primary has falloff from 140 to 70 dmg)
>can headshot for double damage
>2 rounds per second for easy chokepoint frags
>18 rounds (McCree has 6)
>75 Armor is pretty sweet

Downsides:
>No Flashbang or Roll
>McCree's reload time is 1.5s, Toblerone is 2s


Hope that helps!
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>>341675157
Who is this primal urge thaumaturge?
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>It's a "Pull off a successful flank destorying turrets and killing half the team only for the rest of your team to stay at the choke point" episode

I'm not saying I'm the best Genji, I fuck up a lot, but it always sucks when you know that your team can push up but they just stand there while you're the only one on the point and you get wrecked because of it
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>>341677094
sleep tight reap tight
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>>341677228
Windowmaker makes me so goddamn mad because playing against one makes Zenyatta even fucking harder to stay alive as.
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>its another "my team consists of two mccrees a reaper and a widowmaker" episode
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>Tracer

Never.
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>>341677498
THIS HAPPENS TOO MANY AS EVERY FUCKING CHARACTER I PLAY.
>TEAM IS TRYING TO GET THROUGH CHOKE POINT
>I GO IN AS GIANT MONKEY MAN OR ANYONE WHO CAN JUST GO PAST MOTHERFUCKERS
>ENEMY TEAM GOES TO DEAL WITH ME
>REST OF TEAM SITS THERE TRYING TO POKE GUYS WHO DIDN'T GO ONTO POINT TO DEAL WITH ME
>THEN SAY AFTER I DIE "WHY DIDN'T YOU WAIT FOR THE TEAM?"
I mean, honestly. Do they not know what an initiator is? The whole point is someone takes point and the rest clean up.
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>reinhardt
>rest of my team are flankers
>take 20k damage
>teammates running into sentries and roadhogs and dying over and over
>gold objective time with 10s
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Zenyatta player here. Play a real support you Mercy fuccbois. Even Lucio is a better choice.
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>It's a "You got a quint kill using just melee hits while taking the point but the Reaper who ulti'd on 3 people got PotG" episode
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Zenyatta - attack
Mercy - defense
Lucio - KOTH

anything else is wrong
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>>341677075
If you don't suck, he's not going to die that way. You have to pay him like he's Spider-Man; agile and annoying as shit. Constantly zig-zag, change your movements, use healing boost when they're shooting at you, climb walls, just do what you can to buy your team some time, if nothing else.
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>>341677831
b-but helden sterben nicht
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>>341677970
Zenyatta has no fucking mobility. He's only good on defense
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>>341676013
He's a great counterpick against your own team in randoms.
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>>341677970
>Zenyatta - Attack or KOTH
>Mercy - Any
>Lucio - Attack or KOTH
Anything else is wrong.
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>>341677950
>tfw had this today but it was a junkrat that got 2 kills with his tire (3 if you count that the idiot blew himself up)
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>>341677094
>mfw have been doing that so much i've become legitimately dangerous with lucio
Fucking with the enemy and skating away unscathed is fantastic. And knocking enemies into the abyss on KOTH is so satisfying,
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>>341677970
You got Zenyatta and Mercy mixed up there
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>>341677950
It's a random Bastion for me.
I'll pull off some crazy shit that kills 4 people but sure, that Bastion who is just sitting there firing into a hallway lucky enough to kill TWO people totally deserve it.
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>>341677970
>Zenyatta
>Ever
Did zenyatta get a buff recently? He's like the only support I ever see in my games
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>>341678061
>being so bad at healing you have to have your team die first so you can bring them back
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>>341677498
>>It's a "Pull off a successful flank destorying turrets and killing half the team only for the rest of your team to stay at the choke point" episode
Not really flank but...
>Hanamura
>be Rein
>Entire enemy team in the first capture point
>Charge, stun, and die
>Take 4 guys with me before dying
>My team is not capturing
>Entire fucking team is chasing enemy's tracer
>They all die to Tracer+Zyra ult combo
POTG was bastion killing 3 guys in a row
fucking
kill
me
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>>341677831
i play both
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>Episode
It's a game, not a TV series.
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>>341678150
Make sure you get good at wall riding and melee attacking. No one expects to get punched to death by lucio
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>>341678319
Yeah, Widow's Sniper no longer one-shots him with a body shot.
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>>341678319
Widowmaker nerf made it so she can't oneshot bodyshot him, I think
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>>341678319
He's fun as fuck to play as, and a good break from playing Lucio every game
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>>341672945
>It's a team won't rally around the healer, goes all hanzo and widomaker and won't attack the point episode

Being a Lucio main is suffereing
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>>341677831
PASS INTO THE IRIS
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>This entire fucking thread.

Yeah, you guys are the cancer that fill every single god damn game I play.

"We lost cause we had this character!"
"x character is bad on this map, switch!"
"Someone play a healer!"
"WAAAAHHHH!!!"

How about you form your own premade so you always have an amazing comp. Oh wait, everyone fucking hates you because all you do is bitch in a less casual version of TF2.
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>>341674168
You forgot
>The other team has a Reinhardt protecting a Reaper
>All the offensive heroes get fucked in 2 seconds
>The rest of the enemy team gets to the objective fine and dandy
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>>341677970
Lucio (with or without Zen) - Attack
Mercy (with or without Sym) - Defence
Zen and Sym aren't too good on their own unless the player REALLY knows what they're doing
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>>341677970
SYMMETRA :)
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>>341678656
found the hanzo player
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>>341678550
>tfw 30 hours played as lucio with almost 20 of those only because no one else picked healer
wish i got matched up with more lucio mains.
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>>341677950
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>game expects at least 1 sniper when playing on defense
>Only 2 snipers to choose from
Why would they do that? If they wanted a sniper on every defense team why didn't they make more??
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>>341678083
play Zenyatta miles away from the action

>>341678165
Mercy is good on on any team but a good resurrect can stop any offensive push cold

Discord orb is great for killing beefy tanks and defensive heroes

>>341678121
Lucio speed boost is worthless for payload pushing and kinda worthless for control points
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>Play as Reinhardt
>Go to the middle attack route of the map
>No one is pushing or attacking through my shield
>Give up and flank on one of the sides to see if I can do something
>People are bitching that I'm flanking as a tank

Maybe if you'd fucking do something I wouldn't have to!
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>>341676352
>oops I seem to have gotten stuck in this hole
>oh my sir, what are you doing back there!?
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>>341678656
>t. Dorito munching cod mw3 lone wolf
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>>341678897
>Only 1 sniper to choose from
ftfy

Hanzo is bullshit headshot man and a fucking terrible sniper.
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>>341679062
>LESS casual version of TF2
LAH
MAO
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>>341678656
i bet you play for fun :^)
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>Play Zenyatta
>About to ult so we can push the payload and win
>Tell my team this
>Ult
>Turn around and see them all sitting there watching me on the payload

They weren't shooting, not backing up either, just sitting there watching me
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>>341679214
You don't have to give shit about team comp in TF2. So long as you don't have like 6 snipers or something
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>>341679214
Whoops meant to reply to the fuckstain you replied to
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>>341678897
the next hero is a support sniper
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>>341679376
>Inb4 Pharah's Mom
Or do you mean Athena?
Cause neither has been confirmed as far as I am aware.
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>>341672945
>>341672945
>>341672945
here you go, ran into this fucking jem earlier
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>>341679376
>support sniper
Zenyatta is basically that, seeing as he can heal and his orbs don't have damage fall off.
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>>341679376
>faggot sniper players that are also entitled healsluts

the world ins't ready for this
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>>341679568
>41 hours on Hanzo
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>>341679568
>41 hours of Hanzo

This is the worst type of person
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>>341678656
>less casual version of TF2
Overwatch has 1/10th the depth and requires half the skill.
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>>341677498
This. On hanamura attack I knocked 2 people off a ledge and kept at least 2 others busy as le monkey man and my team just sat at the gate shooting garbage in.
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>>341679568
Reminds me of a friend.
>"Dude I play Genji HIGHEST. SKILL. CAP. IN. THE. GAME. SOOOOO SICK sadly all my teams are 1000% garbage"
>Look at his profile
>43% win ratio
fffff u c k
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>>341679620
its a sniper that shoots their own team with support buffs.
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>>341677094
sleep tight reap tight
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>>341678150
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ytRre-122G0
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>be Zenyatta
>get a papercut
>die
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>>341679568

Jesus christ how horrifying. Why is it always shit like Hanzo that people main, instead of useful characters like Soldier 76 or Junkrat?

Fuck, how much do you wanna bet he's also a furfag using the wolf skin?
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>>341676537
>attack
>toblerone/bastion
What is the fucking purpose
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I knew pubs were going to be a frustrating experience but I've just been constantly shocked at the playerbase. It's like if everyone went spy/sniper in tf2 every single game. No one will heal, no one will tank, torjborns, widows, symmetras on offense, its just crazy. I can't play the game by myself anymore without getting ticked off two games in.
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>>341680115
>be Zenyatta
>throw a discord orb at a tank
>every little tap feels like their father is beating them with his belt
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>>341680124
I'm shocked but he only had a recolor skin, nothing fancy

think it was the red one
I kept sneaking up on him with poo in loo and lazing him to death while a/d-ing rapidly and it pissed him off a lot
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>>341678770
>>341679062

Found the players in denial.

>>341679896
>>341679214
>>341679328

TF2 also has custom servers, custom maps, and 12v12. Or 16v16. There's a lot less emphasis on team makeup -- so yes, I'm gonna go with it's less casual. Plus it's free to play. Nice try though, retards.
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>>341680161

If they get on the payload they can be pretty effective. Even without the payload, Bastion can be used to decent effect if he flanks around and goes into turret mode and takes people by surprise.
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>>341672945
I went against a team of all the same characters, one was genji and another soldier 76 and lucios. Lucio was a close game, they were all close games actually.
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>>341680161
>Hasn't experienced the hilarity of a Turret/Bastion payload hell train

It worked ONCE, it was great though
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>Lay trap down outside of door at spawn with a mine next to it
>TRIGGERED
>RMB
>Widowmaker killed

Never gets less satisfying
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>>341679568
>>341680124
>On attack
>3 attacks, 1 support, 1 Hanzo
>Last guy picks Hanzo
>"pick tank"
>he says he can only play Hanzo
>other Hanzo doesn't switch either
Goddamn fucking Hanzo players
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>>341680325
>There's a lot less emphasis on team makeup
Yeah instead you have to be good, instead of overwatch's retarded system of whoever counter picks faster wins.
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>>341672945
I hate most genji players. They hide and don't do anything.
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>that fucking D.va player who won't stop trying to shoot things all across the map
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>>341680228

Yeah, and it's far worse than TF2 because of the lower team size and also since there is almost no good solo class like the Soldier in TF2, who can dominate an entire pub by himself if played right.

I dunno, the pub experience has pretty much wholly turned me off of playing Overwatch. I don't think I've ever started it up in a week or so.

Support was fun for awhile but it gets extremely old and I don't find any of the Tanks fun to play when your team just doesn't cooperate at all.
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>>341677094
sleep tight reap tight
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>>341680486
Fuck off

Junkrat players are the fucking worst
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>>341680325
TF2 when it first released was very different from what it is now. How many maps did it have when it came out?
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>>341680494

The day vote kicking gets added to the game, I am going to kick every single person who goes Hanzo. I don't care if you're somehow the world's greatest Hanzo who can predict movement and perfectly land headshots on everyone, I've been burned by too many instant locking useless fuckers who spam arrows from miles away and never ever use sound arrows.
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>>341680726
>And never use sound arrows.
Wait, what.
There are Hanzos who DON'T USE THE SONAR ARROWS?
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>>341680039
>people who play lucio like this
>never really near their team to heal them and speed them into/away from the enemy team.
but i got the ebin lucio 1v1 skills :^)))) ishygddt
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>>341680529

I'll give you that. Constantly swapping is pretty boring. I think that dies down a bit on the ultra high level where it becomes picking best character for the map. Zarya on KOTH, 2x mcree on pretty much anything, etc.
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>tfw sniping widowmakers as torb or mei
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>Place trap and mine on top of health pickup
>TRIGGERED
>Detonate
>100% Kill

Tracers, when will they learn?
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>>341680887
Absolutely.
The "Hanzo players are shitters" meme isn't based on nothing. Most of them are literally just spamming arrows down a hallway and hoping something hits.
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>>341678350
I purposely let you fucks die when I have ult just to use it after you're all dead. I usually die afterwards but the enemy team is almost always out of position and has my entire team amongst them at full health again ready to kill.
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>>341680904
You do realize that multiple people can play lucio right
You can have more than one support hereo at a time
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>it's a "I watched Seagull play Genji and I think I'm as good as him so my team must be awful" episode
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>>341681115
I find when they do shoot sonar arrows, it's usually directly at the enemy because they have that dumbass "always use ability if it's available" mentality, they don't check flanks, they don't aim to get it round a corner.
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>Been playing it for weeks on roommates Xbone
>Finally get my hands on it for PC
>Oh man, there's gonna be a serious skill bounce from xbone to this, I better be at my best
>Teammates don't even push objectives, just pick multiple widows and torbjorns, hang back whole game while I'm left trying to get us in there to either push the car or take the zone.

Mustard's what the fuck happened to you?
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>>341680161

Bastion can be effective, especially at some maps at the start where the enemy team isn't going to expect running into you plopped in a corner. His recon mode gun isn't too shabby and he can self sustain with heals. Plus you can sit on payloads and mow down idiots if you have a Rienbro and the other team hasn't caught on and switched up their comp to deal with you.

Chances are there is a Widow on the other team so all of that aside from Rienbro makes Bastion a free kill.

Torb can do the same thing on payload maps where you can throw your turret on the payload as an annoying distraction during team scuffles and shit out armor like healthpacks in the carnage. Molten Core on top of a payload can be really effective if the other team is tied up with your team and can't deal with you.
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>>341672945
Lucio is my go to shit team support. On shit team mercy is useless because your healing target will probably die anyways and do less then you could alone in the process.
Zenyatta is slightly better but you are still fucked with a shitty team that can't keep you safe, extra hard now that discord doesn't permanently track genjis and tracers trying to murder you.
Lucio is good because its easy to stay alive and halfway do your own shit without having to be as frustrated by a shit retard team who aren't worth healing
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>>341681115
That astounds me somehow.
>Hit Shift
>Suddenly your whole team gets a mini version of Widow's vision for a few seconds on whoever was in range
>Makes it easier to prep shots
>No skin off their back to add it in while spamming
HOW?
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>>341681068
>Defending on Volskaya
>Place trap in doorway the water-gap left of spawn
>Single Genji just keeps running into it

I hope he just wasn't aware that you can just walk around the room, because if he knew about it but chose death every time, I just don't know what to say.
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>>341680325
Oh god, your shitskin is showing
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>>341681163
>picking a support hero
>playing him as a flanker instead of just picking a flanker
kys my man
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>>341681068
Is this still a thing?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cE8Pw_-0P0U
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>>341678398
>Enemy player running away with a sliver of health
>Speed boost yourself through the enemy line, and punch them at mach 1
>Wall ride around to your team again

It ain't helpful, but it feels damn fucking good.
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>>341677094

sleep tight reap tight
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>>341677970
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>>341681491
I've tried it a couple times. Landed it once or twice, but last couple attempts it's just bounced right off.
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>>341681487
If he makes it work then he can play it
I'd rather have him than the same shitter genji's that ult once a game and remain dead the other 90% only to get kills/damage from stray right click spam.
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>>341678350
>not using your teammates to bait out multiple ults from the enemy team only to ress them immediately after
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>>341680124
>Mfw junkrat / lucio main
>Mfw not hated by people

feels good
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We all should have claimed Soldier had thehighest skill cap in the game instead of Genji cause then all these shitters who pick Genji trying to be MLG pro 420 would pick a character even shitters can be credit to team playing.
A bad Genji is so fucking common and a bad Genji doesnt do anything
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>>341672945
does anyone know why in overwatch some heroes say "that smarts" when they mean "that hurts". is smarts another word for hurts and im just retarded?
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>It's a Winston player can't tank for shit episode
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I hope "No healers" is added soon as a red team tip, because people assume a healer isn't needed just because there's a Sym player and it's a constant problem when there is a Sym on the team.
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>>341681878
>It's a retard thinks Winston is a tank episode
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>>341681491
you cant put the bear trap on it anymore
mine still works
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>>341682163
>It's a people call characters tanks just because they're in the tank category episode
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>tfw banned for griefing
It's like nobody wants me to have fun in video games anymore. I should've known Blizzard would be cucks of equal proportion to Valve.
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>>341680486
>do this because I think 'hey, the enemy team can't be that dumb but it would be funny if they were'
>they are
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>>341682341
what did you do? how do you get banned in this shit?
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>>341672945
team player reporting in.
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>>341677094
sleep tight, reap tight
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>>341672945
When should I ever not pick Reinhardt?
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>>341681335
moba's made us shit!
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>>341682341
>ruin the game for other people
>surprised when you get banned
blizzard thanks you for your $40
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>>341682341
stop ice walling your team in the spawn you useless prick
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>>341682125

I go healer 100% of the time we have a Symmetra because I know that no one else is going to think to go healer.

I also lose 95% of the matches when I have a Symmetra on the team, because the combination of us being down a teammate and me having to be a healer instead of a tank or damage dealer leads to losses.
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>>341681845
You are indeed retarded
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>>341681068
can tracer not time lapse during a junk trap?
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I'm at the point where if no one else changes their hero at the start to balance the team I just leave. 99% of those games are losses for me
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>>341682431
>>341682494
>trapping people with ice walls
>setting symmetra's teleporter to direct you into pits
>"gg ez"
>teleporting out of spawn before the doors open as reaper
Those are just a few
>>341682549
I also trap us when someone like Pharah or an opposing Mei uses ult by placing wall in the direction most people run. Good laughs, really.
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>>341682561
>I also lose 95% of the matches when I have a Symmetra on the team
I legitimately don't believe you
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>>341682341
Is your name fapking69? A friend of mine wrote this long report while waiting for a new match as a joke after a bit of shit talking
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>>341677228
>>341680346
>>341680410
>>341681353
Good points, but too bad when they get on the payload the other team isn't retarded and focus fire on them with phara
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>Ever since the nerf all the widow shitters switched to Hanzo shitters
>Always one genji cos of some streamer I've never even fucking heard of
>mfw pubing

WHY!?!?!??!

FUCKING HOW COME THERE ARE SO MANY.

ALWAYS, not even kidding, always someone going hanzo, and more than half the time one is going genji. Twenty characters to pick from, and there are always these two useless motherfuckers dicking around showing katanas and arrows up their own asses.

Any time I see a hanzo and genji I just switch to my least played hero and try to get some experience in it because I sure know jack shit is getting done.
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>charging the point as Lucio
>entire team is with me
>hit the skillful Q
>"AW YEAH LET'S BREAK IT DOWN!"
>entire team immediately disperses while I skate onto the point
>mfw
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>>341681335
Your mmr is still trash and it's a Blizzard game with a low skill floor. Also steam attracted a lot of casuals and children to PC gaming
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Anyone who can behave like a normal human being want to play on Xbone?
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mercy+winston is a truly horrific offensive combo

>>341681878
winston isn't a tank, his bubble is really fucking garbage for defending against more than 2 people
i would argue that the only actual tank in the game is reinhardt
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>>341682735
>setting symmetra's teleporter to direct you into pits
Okay, that one is pretty good
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>>341682919
>/v/
>teaming up with anyone
I'd play with you if I could, anon. Good luck finding anyone else.
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Why do so many people hate Hanzo? Is it just a PC thing? Most games I'm in with either a Hanzo on my team or choosing Hanzo myself go pretty fucking well. I get the feeling people mainly hate him because hitboxes tbqh.
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>>341677950
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>>341682738

It's true, Symmetra a shit.

Or maybe it's less Symmetra and more the people who are picking her aren't very good with her and aren't on a coordinated team with microphones. But it always feels like we're down a player, I rarely ever see the teleporters and when they do show up whatever point we're defending is almost completely capped so the teleporter stays up for a few seconds before our spawn gets moved or it gets destroyed. So all we're left with is her turrets and shields, the later of which they usually forget to give out after the initial spawn wave. The turrets themselves die super easily and usually only cover one route she's camping, which smart teams just ignore and go 6 vs 5 of us on the other routes and push through.
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>>341682561
Meanwhile, I have a 68% Win rate on Symmetra. I do agree that people don't play her nearly aggressively enough though.
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>>341682990
High powered Zarya does real good, and her ultimate is made for team plays.

I do admit that she works a lot better with a Rein on the field though.
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>>341682735
>teleporting out of spawn before the doors open as reaper
wait what
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>>341683051
If I got hit by some of the bullshit headshots I pulled off, I'd hate Hanzo as well.
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>>341677094
Are you me?
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Literally just got Junkrat's Fool skin.
With my luck it's the worst legendary skin for him, right?
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>>341683047
Thanks, anon.
I appreciate that, I hope you have a good evening.
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Why did they nerf stealth Roadhog?
>used to be able to 1 2 kill anyone 200HP and below
>now people can easily walk away
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>2 Pharahs on defense and no healer
>One of the Pharahs demands that someone else switch to healer as we are about to lose

What the fuck is with all of the Pharahs on defense today. Every goddamn match and they've all been shit.
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>>341672945
>KotH at ilios
>That one excavation looking map
>We have a Widomaker on the team
>Does nothing to shoot the enemy Pharah down, pretty much spent time trying to take potshots at enemies she can't even see
>Suddenly the enemy Pharah laughs at our two snipers in the chat
>"Wait what"
>We actually had two fucking widowmakers
>Some one on the team says "Are we really going to play this mode with two widowmakers?"
>The 2nd Widowmaker switches heroes upon death
>Hanzo
>99%
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>>341683051
>Let me just sit right outside of this point capture zone and attempt (and fail) shooting this tracer in the distance instead when everyone else is dead.

I don't give a shit about your dank heatseeking arrows that can headshot behind walls, I want your ass on the objective when its fucking critical.

t. Reinhardt that's sick of your shit.
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>>341677094
sleep tight reap tight
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>>341683051
He's less than useless.

His ult does nothing, easily avoidable, trying to plonk enemies away from a distance doing very little, sometimes his scatter arrows hit, he's fragile and shit at close range, easy kills against him, counters basically no one, provides nothing to the team, is a waste of a team slot.

Almost anyone is more useful than a Hanzo. When you play with him you have to forget that he even exists, he's barely even noticable in game when you're trying to push and he's just dicking around with his slow firing speed and hoping for lucky shots.

He's so fucking useless that a lot of the time I don't even bother going over to kill him in whatever butthole he crawled itno, just reposition or group back up.
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>>341683376
Right.

Fool is the alternate color for it, his main character
Jester is a reference to this guy I feel
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>>341683376
It is in my opinion, but it's not bad, the other ones are just pretty good.
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>>341676556
That picture of Macree is making me feel strange.
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>>341683051
this
>>341683567
but also every once in a while a hanzo will luck headshot you cause they were spamming arrows in the general direction of your team
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>>341672945
Alright, I cannot think of a single situation (outside of something retarded like 5 flankers who all go on their own) where lucio is bad, every single match there will be a minimum of three people sticking together
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>>341683051
It's a community thing. Hanzo himself isn't bad, he just has that rep for being picked by talentless scrubs that see the cool Japanese archer "MUH HONORU" man, and literally start masturbating furiously when they land a very poorly-aimed headshot after missing the target a previous 20 times. But he's my second most played hero so fuck me I guess.
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>>341683085
Sym's fine but she has too many hard counters, Tracer and Winston literally ruin Sym and destroys everything she has.
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>>341683154
yeah, if you get the right angle you can teleport out of the spawn. blizz may have patched in new update but i'm not sure
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>>341683638
>Jester is a reference to a jester
Gee wiz
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>it's a guy who autolocks Genji/Reaper/D.Va complains about team comp episode
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>>341683567
A good Hanzo who actually can recon well, and isn't shitty with aim is dangerous.

Also Hanzo's wall crawling ability is great for holding objectives but most Hanzo's are pussies.


Question: I played a match today where within the first 3 minutes a Hanzo got his ultimate 3 times, he wasn't even on fire.

Is there some ultimate building tech with Hanzo?
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>>341683813
The color scheme dumbass
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>>341683051
he's like junkrat in that he just spams chokepoints, but he kills you instantly and his arrows are basically invisible
the bouncy arrows are an incredibly gay mechanic that can randomly one-shot you from around a corner and across the map just because you got unlucky (zenyatta is susceptible to this)
getting killed by a hanzo ult not meant for you just because you happened to be walking in a hallway is infuriating

and yet he's also fucking useless and if you have one on your team he will not do ANYTHING
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>>341675817
I've done well with d.va but it isn't worth it with her frail robot desu
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>>341683713
>every single match there will be a minimum of three people sticking together

How does it feel to be the luckiest boy in the world?
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>>341672945
If the team doesn't stay with the healer they don't deserve one. Pick another class and let them heal if they miss it.
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>>341676556
>Macree will never tie you up with his bamf belt and fuck me senseless.
Why live
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>>341683713
fuck that. Go with the 5 stupid flankers. Breach hard.
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>>341683713

He's shit for teams with lots of tanks, namely Reinhardt, D.va and Winston. Same with Zenyatta, his healing is only really good for the non tank characters since they only have like 200 HP or some means of healing themselves. The three 500 HP characters can't heal themselves, and if they're low on HP all you can do is amp it up and then wait around for them to slowly heal back to full, which takes an eternity.
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>>341683713
you've yet to encounter the two tracer one reaper one genji faggot pub team
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>>341683859
>I played a match today where within the first 3 minutes a Hanzo got his ultimate 3 times, he wasn't even on fire.

This happened to me last night. He had one like every 30 seconds.
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>>341682735
I'm glad you got cucked out of your money for being le epic trollface
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>guy picks zarya
>whines there's no supports
>tell him to switch instead of bitching
>I AM PLAYING TANKER ALREADY
> says some other retarded shit in broken english before I mute and block
>we lose, end game screen comes up
>500 damage blocked
HOW CAN YOU BE THIS FUCKING BAD?
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>>341682896
>I am ready to activate the sound barrier!
>Group up!
>they all run past me to die to the turret for the thousandth time
Great, thank you!
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>>341683859
There's something fishy with ults recently, since last patch.

Don't get me wrong, a good hanzo is somewhat of a credit, but still pretty damn useless, a Pharah can do as much as he does and more. He adds absolutely nothing to the team, even if he's picking off a person or two on the regularly... all of the other fucking classes do as well, and they help the team, and are on point with the fucking objective, are close to the healers for survivability, are there to help out in a pinch, they can cancel other characters ults, or help push etc.

HANZO DOES JACK SHIT
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>>341684109
Anon you are not supposed to solo support as a zen
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>fell for the meme and bought Overwatch today
>mfw I spent $60 for something off of Steam's free to play section
>Mfw only bought because I thought I was getting burned out on Rainbow Six Siege
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>>341684173
I'll just buy it again
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>>341684109
A speed boosted Reinhardt that manages to flank you is a fucking hammerswinging nightmare of death and destruction.

Not to mention fucking mach 3 charging Reinhardt is pretty terror inducing.
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>>341675748
Dr. Pavel, I'm BAMF.
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>>gets on payload as soon as it is available to push
>>rest of team dashes off
>>if I die no one else bothers pushing while I respawn

WHY. I understand jumping off to clear a choke point or w/e but most of the time you should get on the payload
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>arcade mode is Soldier 76 only
>everyone has 100 health
I can't believe how much fun it is.
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>>341677094
sleep tight reap tight
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>>341684716
it's almost like you're really playing call of duty
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>watchpoint gibbly
>we're defending the last stretch of the level with 5 minutes left
>be 5 gold medal soldier
>mention to the team that we need a healer
>"you do it, 76 is useless"

Guess who they were playing.
fucking hanzo
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>>341680161
>Reinhardt main
>they set up on the payload
>cruise control for cool
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>>341675632
>those guys who always lock 76 regardless of game type or ATK/DEF
Why do you even play Overwatch at that point? Go back to CoD
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>>341684279
Not to mention there is ONE IN EVERY GAME

Give me a good hanzo, I don't mind, it's managable as he chips away health for others to finish off.

BUT HE'S LITERALLY IN EVERY GAME it's pissing me off so much how many pure shitters there are. It's TF2 and snipers all over again.
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>>341684279
>Sound arrow does jack shit
Widow is still better, but he's not totally useless if the player is good.
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Why is soldier 76 so fun? I got gud with him over the past three days and he's a blast. Those fucking rockets are so damn good, and 3 shot bursting pharahs out of the air is so satisfying when you normally play junkrat and roadhog
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>>341684819
Haha.
I miss MNC.
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>>341684819
The life of a good S76 player is rough, my man.
Everybody wants to blame us for their lack of skill
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>>341684884
Because he's a really fun hero
has mobility, sustain for the team, good damage, range, a pretty damn good ult, a bit of burst. Only real fault is he's a bit on the squishy side
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>>341676013
The enemy team almost always locks the same shit anyway
>Bastion
>toblerone
>Hanzo
>76
>junkshit
>pharah
Genji was BUILT for fools like that
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>>341685043
You could always play smnc.
Oh wait.
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>>341672945
????
Explain to me why Mercy or Zenyatta would fare better in this situation

Unless you're seriously going to go without a healer.
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>>341684921
Sound arrow is nice.

Now tell me, how many Hnazo's do you see and how many sonic arrows do you see being used?

He's useless because the people are useless. In the hands of a good character he's team buffer, nothing more, absolutely nothing more. All other classes can handle the counters Hanzo players seem to 'counter', solider can take out bastions and turrets, so can Pharah, even non nipers can take out snipers easily, and be a credit to the team with their utilities. Hanzo is just not a team player character at all, nor an objective based character. Best he could ever hope for when up close is a 1v1 so he can shoot the ground every 10 seconds.
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>>341684962
because he absolutely shits out damage, good mobility and has decent heals

he's poor against tanks most of the time but using them as free ult charge works for me

think he's my second most played behind Zarya
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>>341685043
>tfw one of the main reasons I play winston is because he reminds me of cheston
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>>341677094
Sleep tight reap tight
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>>341685254
Yeah he's not so good if their roadhog or reinhardt is on your ass but you do so much if your team is able to cover you, and all that free ult charge. Once you get decent at headshotting you just slay people

I still can't hit D.Vas outside their suit though, that fucking bobbing and weaving
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If you're attacking, don't play:
>Mei
>Widowmaker
>Symmetra

If you're defending, don't play:
>McCree
>Tracer
>Zenyatta

In general, just don't play Hanzo. You could be doing so much more.
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>>341683051
His arrows are bullshit because of shitty hitboxes, and his ult charges ridiculously fast so you might as well get used to hearing gookspeak through 75% of the match. Said ult is easy to avoid but sometimes if you're stuck in a corner you're just fucked, and it never fucking stops until it goes right off the map.
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>play junkrat on Attack
>sneak to enemy spawn point
>put trap just outside the entrance
>TRIGGERED
>1-2 bombs later and they die
>Taunt and go back with my team
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