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Why wouldn't they allow this work with my PC? It would make it THE headset for me and I imagine a lot of other people. But as it stands I've got to pick between this and one that works with PC, and I'm not going to pick one that only works with my console.
Same reason the PS3/4 controllers don't work on PC I imagine.
Someone will probably write drivers for it.
>>341658441
i agree. if it worked on pc id probably get it so it worked on both. but since it doesnt ill probably get vive
>>341658981
Is that all it would take? Because I would buy one pretty quickly if worked with both.
>>341659139
It just strikes me as a pretty big missed opportunity. They could get themselves a large portion of a nascent market this way.
>>341658441
They talked about making it work for PC as a possibility
>>341659156
Yes. But this can be extremely hard to do
>>341659569
>>341659587
Oh, great. I'll hold off on buying anything for a while then and see how it pans out.
>>341659156
I don't imagine drivers would be available quickly, don't take me to mean that drivers are super easy to write. VR devices in general are very new so no one has any experience with them.
>>341658441
Would people really buy VR for this?
>>341661153
Yes.
>>341658441
If they allowed it to work on PC they'd be sued to HELL and back from Valve and Facebook because it only costs 400 bucks while theirs costs 800 bucks.
>>341662118
wut
>>341662370
It's crab in a barrel syndrome basically. Valve doesn't want PSVR on PC because it costs half as much as the Vive. So sue them the fuck off the PC platform.
>>341658981
Ps3 controller does need some finagling to work on PC but my ps4 controller is literally plug and play for everything I've tried it with
>>341662461
On what grounds, anon?
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/225651-sony-might-bring-playstation-vr-to-the-pc
In an interview with Nikkei (as translated by Gamesindustry.biz), Sony Computer Entertainment executive vice president Masayasu Ito suggested that PC compatibility could be added at a later date, even if it wasn’t present on launch day. “Since the PS4’s internal parts are similar to those of a PC, this is a possibility,” Ito said. “Right now we’re focused on games, so we’re not at the point of announcing anything, but there’s a possibility to expand into various field.”
>>341662118
>>341662461
Do you enjoy talking out your ass?
The Windows platform is an open one, meaning they wouldn't owe HTC/Valve or Facebook jack shit.
Seeing how the Dualshock 4 is officially supported on PC, I imagine they could very well do this to increase sales.
>>341663141
>>341662837
Think for your self.
>sony allows psvr to work on pc
>valve loses vive sales since they buy psvr instead
>sue sony for loses
>>341663280
Admit it, you are a lawyer arent you?
>>341663280
Are you actually mentally challenged?
>>341658981
Both of those work on PC you fucking idiot.
>>341663280
I can't wait for the MERELY PRETENDING on this one.
>>341663860
Not officially and the Dualshock 3 works like shit you fucking handicapped special person
>>341658981
DS4 only works with games that use DirectInput.
Otherwise, you need an XInput emulator like DS4Windows.
>>341663280
>Two products are available
>Consumers buy one more
>Thinking this is grounds for a lawsuit
What's your favourite flavour of paint?
>>341661153
it's about time a video game studio used VR properly
Playstation VR WILL work on PC.
>>341663694
>>341663746
>>341663920
>>341664484
Y-you guys can make fun of me all you want! PSVR will NEVER work on PC. HEED MY WORDS, don't get your hopes up.
>>341664616
Source?
>>341658441
It will work on PC using the Oculus SDK. But not until after Oculus Touch is launched.
>>341664785
Google it.
>>341658441
reminder that Project Scorpio is being build to pair with the Oculus rift
>It would make it THE headset for me and I imagine a lot of other people.
you imagine wrong, in both cases. I say this as a Vive owner - resolution is still abominable. it is the major shortcoming of all the first-gen headsets, the single point that most desperately needs improvement. and the PSVR has an even smaller resolution, probably half the effective visible pixels. this sounds extreme, but remember, it is using a single panel, whereas both rift and vive are using separate panels of each eye
PSVR is a piece of shit, probably even inferior to phone VR. hell, probably there will be no 2nd-gen dedicated VR HMDs, probably phone VR is the future flat-out. whatever happens, do not support sony or psvr. Sony needs to get with the program and recognize consoles are dead, like Microsoft already has. not try to sucker in costumers with an inferior knockoff version of what they see only as the next fad.
>>341658441
I feel like it will be PC compatible but they don't want to say it because it'll eat into their shortage when they want PS4 players to get it first
or at least I hope, if it works with PC I'm definitely going PSVR
Feel kind of bad for Oculus.
They're the ones that started all this shit and they're getting fucked from all sides.
PSVR is the cheapest.
Vive is the best tech wise.
Oculus is the weird middle ground people mostly forget about if they didn't back it.
>>341664312
So like every gamepad.
>>341661153
fuck yeah I would
>>341665301
Thanks, I'll keep this in mind.
>>341665476
what anime is this??
>>341665301
Calm down Mr Newell.
Take your heart medication and have a glass of water.
>>341665301
>probably half the effective visible pixels
PSVR is full RGB unlike Vive and Oculus. It's also using really good lenses that aren't fresnel unlike Oculus and Vive as Sony are lens manufactures as well from their cameras and shit. It's not so far behind as you think.
>>341665530
He's bullshitting. I'm a PC VR user as well, and PSVRs biggest problem is the PS4 not the headset. It beats the Vive on comfort as well.
>>341665548
looks like family guy
>>341665301
>>341665715
Guess I'll just do my own research on that then.
>>341665426
>Vive is the best tech wise.
Except it isn't. It's the best manufacturing and shipping wise. Its headset is worse than Oculus' headset and its motion controllers are worse than Oculus' headset. They're just able to ship their shit first while Oculus is still having problems with that.
>>341664759
Anon... Has anyone ever told you that you're special?
>>341666195
It hurts to live
>>341665426
Oculus is probably the one pairing with Project Scorpio so theirs will be the only one that can be used on PC and console.
>>341665973
not him but in what way? I heard Vive has a slightly higher resolution and that the room scale was crazy accurate
do you have links or something because if Oculus is better and cheaper then I'll just buy it instead
>>341665769
its rick and morty
>>341664759
Just like the nes or snes never worked on pc until someone took his time to build an emulator for it
>>341665426
how is the vive the best tech wise? the only reason the vive is good is because of the motion controllers and shipping that doesn't take 3 months
>>341665301
>the PSVR has an even smaller resolution, probably half the effective visible pixels
Wrong on both.
Vive only has 240x120 more pixels. It's an equivalent difference from 900p to 1080p (except PSVR is 1080p and Vive goes slightly beyond that)
Thing is that Vive's panel is so shit, the actual subpixel count is 33% lower than what the total pixel number indicates. So both headsets are quite close, with PSVR actualy edging it out in eliminating screendoor effect
But as you said, every 1st gen headset has a subpar display regardless of differences between them
>PSVR is a piece of shit, probably even inferior to phone VR
Ok you lost me there. Oblivious fanboy with a blind hatred towards sony.
>>341664161
How does it work like shit? Works flawlessly using xinput wrapper.
I am a man of simple pleasures.
I want VR for my playstation Neo games.
and I want MOTHERFUCKING VR PORN ON MY PC.
If sony can't provide both then i'm going to have to buy a fucking rift of vive.
>>341668567
you can watch porn on PSVR though. 3D hentai, MMD videos, 3DPD, or recordings of H-games. The only thing you cant do is actually play H-games.
Think, how many times do you fap to doujins/hentai compared to the times you fap while playing a game? 10 to 1? 20 to 1? 5 to 1?
Best I don't assume your fapping tendencies though
>>341670083
You can't watch porn on PSVR though. How? You can't answer that. They never announced support for personal videos. If you want to see anything you have to buy it. From their store. Their closed garden.
>>341670887
>If you want to see anything you have to buy it. From their store. Their closed garden.
No. The media player will be VR compatible on launch.
The media player isn't closed, you can take any video from your usb (or whichever other way you wish) to there.
I don't get why people assume shit before even the most surface level of research, especially when its info that would impact your purchasing decision.
>>341670887
Well even for japs, I don't think Sony will just openly sell VR porn, but i'm sure we'll somehow find a way to get Sony VR porn and H-games, but seems like it will be a difficulty compared to getting a different set.
Also, VR game when you can choose custom waifu skins to fuck when?
>Amazon can't guarantee release day delivery
>GAME can guarantee release day delivery
>Remember the time GAME cancelled my MGSV pre-order for no reason
What do?
>>341670887
>>341671658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmCaZFTKrYI
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/gb/ps4/music/mp_format_m.html
>Use (Media Player) to enjoy videos, photos, and music saved on USB storage devices and media servers.
>Users can also view 360-degree photographs and videos, that are captured by devices such as omnidirectional cameras, through the media player.
God damn you guys are annoying. PS4 has had a media player for over a year now that plays everything. It has also been stated it'll be compatible with VR on launch. And yet you still think it only runs media from their stores, because...... reasons.
>>341672615
Just walk into the store and buy it. It's not like they only stock for pre-order fags.
>>341672659
It wouldn't play in real VR mode though, right?
But it a virtual cinema mode where you are just in an empty room looking at a wall.
>>341672659
But will it be able to play 3D video and 3D 360 degree videos?
>>341672971
>3D video
Yes.
It should be able to.
Oculus and Vive can do it so there is no reason the PSVR can't.
>360 video
Doubt it, unless they update the Youtube app for it, I doubt we will be able to play our own.
>>341673217
So just 360 degree pictures? Good luck fapping to those!
>>341658441
Because it's meant for console, jackass. Don't be such a cheapskate. Buy the one for PC.
>>341672827
>>341672971
Yes it will play in real VR, god damn. Even the shittiest phone with a $10 google cardboard plays real VR videos and panoramic photos, not just a 2D projection on a VR room.
Why so apprehensive? Even with sources you can't believe it. Look, it's not something out of this world, it's not black magic.
Yes you can fap to weird MMD's where sweaty lolis with ahegao faces sit of your face repeatedly and step on your dick, in actual full VR.
Anyway I'm done. There's nothing else I can do when even sources aren't enough to convince you guys.
>>341658981
Those both work on PC, dumbass. It if has USB connectivity, it will work on PC.
>>341661153
How did they get this to run at 60fps?
Doesn't XV run at like 25fps with drops everywhere?
>>341673217
>Doubt it
Why are you lying on the internet?
>unless they update the Youtube app
Why aer you bringing up youtube for no reason? I'm so confused. There's no porn on youtube. what the fuck?
>>341667245
>I heard Vive has a slightly higher resolution and that the room scale was crazy accurate
Not sure where you heard Vive had higher resolution. They have same resolution, but Oculus has better visual quality especially for text.
>>341664161
Both work as good as they do on the ps3/ps4 on pc.
I don't know what you fucked up to get other results, it's pretty much idiot-proof.
>>341673932
There's a huge black box that the PSVR connects too. In case you've been living under a rock, external GPUs are a thing now.
See link for an example.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2907954/reviewed-alienwares-amplifier-turbo-boosts-a-laptop-with-titan-x-graphics.html
>>341658441
If you're interested in VR on a PC i don't know why you would take pick the budget headset with the worst specs and uses ps move controllers.
>>341674096
>There's a huge black box that the PSVR connects too
That doesn't give it any extra power. It just feeds the picture to the TV too.
>>341673932
see >>341667595
That's driveclub, a 30fps game. Which they made run at 60fps for PSVR
devs can optimize anythng if they want to
>>341674096
Seems like you are living under a rock. The external box doesn't render shit. It splits and unwarps the image to the TV, in games that use that featture. The only processing it does is 3D sound, nothing else.
>>341674352
>Which they made run at 60fps for PSVR
Isn't it actually 120fps? but has that double frame things?
>>341674181
You're clueless kid. The PSVR is better than the Oculus.
>>341667595
>Thing is that Vive's panel is so shit
It really is. It's not really any better than the GearVR I tried. I don't know why people claim Vive is the best tech-wise, the only reason people give a shit about it is the motion controllers.
I lost quite a bit of faith in vr when I saw sony's vr bullshit.
>hey check out this super exciting third person rpg! we added first person shooter elements just to push vr for some reason!
What were they even thinking.
If vr is just going to be full-blown gimmick like that I don't want it.
>>341674352
>devs can optimize anythng if they want to
Yeah if by "optimize" you mean turn down the settings.
>>341674060
I hear it from people on here who say things without proof, I just take their word for it
kind of like your post
>>341673903
>>341663860
...you guys are dumb, you realize that's his point, right?
>>341674638
Every PSVR game is reprojected
games that run at native 60fps are reprojected to 120Hz. (there's also 90fps>90Hz and 120fps>120Hz, these are the 3 options). It doesn't actually double the frames, but you percieve it as running the game much smoother
Here's a similar technique, interpolation, done in a much more extreme way because anime runs between 4fps to 12fps in frame-by-frame animations and 24fps at best for backgrounds and camera movement and all of this is "converted" to 60fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mScqgquCsg
As you can see, it was actually animated at 24fps (at best) and yet you percieve it as running at 60fps, aside from the choppier 4-12fps hand drawn animation
PSVR does the same from 60fps to 120Hz, albeit with a different technique
>>341675057
Yes, that's exactly what I said. Did I stutter?
PSVR is the only one backed by real devs and is the only one with real games.
>>341675403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBieKwa2ID0
>>341675741
The only 'real game' I see if Resident Evil 7, and according to everyone at E3, it is making people vomit from motion sickness.
>>341675403
RoadToVr, UploadVR, Tested, pretty much everyone reviewer says the same thing.
>>341676063
>trusting cucks from e3
Who the fuck gives motion sickness?
VR detractor turned believer.
>>341676190
If sony had a 40 minute segment on the vr in this game I would have been satisfied with the show.
But what I got was a bunch of minigame gimick bullshit.
>>341676063
>Dice
>rocksteady
>capcom
>sega
>crytec
>namco
Just of the top of my head. When will they work on Occulus or Vive?
>>341674775
>One game uses it as a small featture
>Thus, EVERY game uses it as a small featture/gimmick
Yes anon. There are no full VR games like GranTurismo, AceCombat7, ResidentEvil7, RIGS, Dreams, BattleZone, and a plethora of other AA and indie titles out there, including Vive/Oculus multiplats like EVE:Valkyrie, Adr1ft, etc
>>341676063
Well if you don't look anywhere it's only natural you don't see shit
>>341658441
But there are other superior alternatives for PC...
>>341676325
>>Dice
It is literally 1 space mission. Tech Demo
>>rocksteady
It is literally 1 detective mission and a batcave sequence, lasts only 1 hour. Tech Demo
>>capcom
Resident Evil 7.
>>sega
Project Diva X is never coming to US so I didn't even think of them.
>>crytec
It is a ~1 hour walking climbing sim. Tech Demo
>>namco
Same as Sega. We aren't getting Summer Lessons.
>>341676325
I don't think it's a sensible idea to drop hundreds of dollars or what seems on paper like 6 hours of entertainment.
>>341676656
More full games with follow. At the very least it actually has real developers putting time into it. PC VR will never ever get that.
>>341665715
Full rgb doesn't solve screen door you tard
>>341676881
Yet PCuckholds paid double and triple for the same.
>>341675779
>>341676091
thanks
>>341676898
Pc gets modding and all the multi plats at a higher graphical fidelity, which is very important because of the sacrifices ps4 has to make for vr.
>>341676898
Don't get me wrong dude, I am excited for PSVR, but Year 1 is going to be rough.
Most Devs are putting out little minigames to just demo what VR can do, which to a consumer isn't worth the $400 price point.
Hopefully we get some BIG announcements at PSX in December, because currently, I am only really excited for RE7, Rigs, Eve, Ace Combat 7 and Until Dawn. 4/6 being tech demos.
>>341676996
Yes, more subpixels reduces screen door. I'm not sure you know what screen door is if you think it doesn't.
>>341676656
>>341676881
see games on >>341676340
>>341658441
>Why wouldn't they allow this work with my PC? It would make it THE headset for me and I imagine a lot of other people. But as it stands I've got to pick between this and one that works with PC, and I'm not going to pick one that only works with my console.
Its being sold at a massive loss. It needs too be excluive to PS4 for a while in order to recoup costs from console users
Look up Yoshida words on the matter he said the same thing.
>>341677428
Screendoor can only be reduced by straight up resolution increases. The RGB effect does not reduce it. Currently the morpheus has the same screen door problem that the dk2 had.
>>341677556
>being sold at a massive loss
Why does Sony keep doing these crazy as fuck risks?
>>341677027
>the same
No, pc is getting games designed for VR.
Not just games where vr was an afterthought in the 11th hour.
>$400
>doesn't come with PS Spycam and Dildos
>>341677556
>Its being sold at a massive loss
>Look up Yoshida words on the matter he said the same thing.
What? no. He said the exact opposite
They could have made PSVR even cheaper but they wanted to add the box for the TV output, bumping the price to $400.
PSVR is being sold for a profit, the margin isn't too big but it's there. Yoshida said they didn't want to sell it at a loss. I can't be bothered to look for the GDC interview but its there in video form.
>>341677720
>RE7 revealed as a VR game from the ground up just 2 days ago and was shown under a codename for well over a year and a half on every convention which had PSVR demos
>AC7 revealed as a VR game from the ground up
>same for BattleZone, RIGS, GranTurismo and others
just stop shitposting please
>>341677584
>Screendoor can only be reduced by straight up resolution increases.
Obviously you proved my point as that is incorrect. Screen door is the space between pixels, it can be reduced by putting pixels closer together (ie higher PPI screen), more subpixels closer together, or diffusion through the lens to make it less apparent. It's pixelation, objects that are the distance appearing blocky, that can only be reduced by straight up resolution.
>Currently the morpheus has the same screen door problem that the dk2 had.
It hasn't been called Morpheus in a long time, and everyone who's tried it since it has been called PSVR says the screen door is less than on the Vive as Morpheus incorporates all of the above methods to reduce screen door.
>>341678207
RE7 is on PC too you tard
>>341678370
Show me one source in the last 2 months that says PSVR has less screen door than release rift.
Vive I don't care about. Most sources agree that Rift managed to get the best lenses and has the best sitting experience, where text isn't a blurry mess when not looking right at it.
>>341678394
Not with native VR support though.It will get modded in probably.
>>341678394
Did I say it was exclusive? Why are you sperging out?
You shitposted about every PSVR game being a 1hour long tech demo gimmick and I clearly have proven you wrong. That's all there is to it, calm down now.
Should I mention the plethora of Vive/Oculus games that are coming to PSVR too or would that trigger you?
>>341678724
It'll just get an official update for rift and vive, they just didn't announce it at E3
>>341658981
Wait till someone gets it working before you decides. It seem more complicated then writing a driver for a controller
>>341679019
They actually confirmed the opposite.
People at E3 were saying that It is possible for it to come at a later date, but not at launch and Capcom are just focusing on PSVR at the moment.
>>341679230
Like I said, it'll get an official update
They were probably paid for 1 month of vr exclusivity or some shit
>>341677963
You don't need either of those, PSVR has a built in gyroscope.
>>341678586
PSVR uses a fullRGB display, Vive uses PenTile.
It's factually impossible for pentile to be better. This is like giving you 2 PC specs, only with a 1080GTX and the other with a 970 and you still ask for proof as to which one runs better because somehow you don't believe the 1080 outperforms a 970
It needs no proof, it's self-evident. FullRGB is better than PenTile by roughly 33% given the same resolution. Vive's PPI is not 33% higher than PSVR's, so PSVR has less black space between pixels
Notice the reds, for example. Every pixel has a red subpixel in PSVR, while in Vive/Oculus at best 2/5 have red and at worse 1/4 have red, depending on which shitty PenTile display matrix they use.
>>341678586
I'm going to skip all the reddit testimony's and trying from a PC user based source:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/playstation-vr-london-heist-demo,30244.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/vive-rift-playstation-vr-comparison,4513-3.html
Tested also mentions it, giving a direct comparision between Vive and PSVR in one of their hour long VR minutes, but I'm not going to be able to find the exact spot as I don't know which one or what minute it would be at.
>>341680331
This guy was earlier claiming that more subpixels does not reduce screen door. He is not interested in facts.
>>341681619
Yup, vastly superior display and vastly superior lenses, yet people say its the shittiest somehow
>>341681938
To be fair, PSVR as a whole may not be a good experience if it's attached to a PS4 and many of their games have poorly implemented VR. Its reprojection kind of sucks, makes the view wobble if you aren't getting a solid framerate.
But if attached to a PC driving it at 120hz, the headset itself would be great. Also the 120hz refresh rate makes it perfect for virtual cinema as all lower media refresh rates are easily divisible.
>>341663280
>being retarded
Law is my specialty, it's clear you have no idea about what you are talking about. This website is 18+, go to bed kid.
>>341667595
>WOOH THIS BEATS TELEVISION BY A LONG SHOT
>>341673217
>doubt it
Oh... You're making stuff up, got it.
>>341676656
Project Diva X is coming to US and EU, didn't read whatever else you wrote, just wanted to inform you incase you were hoping to buy PDX
