What are the best cover-shooters?
There is nothing wrong with cover shooters. People take cover in real life. For a TPS, it's as natural as going prone is in a FPS
>>341656382
Which Uncharted game is this?GOW 1-3
>>341657869
I think it's from the second game or something
my fav cover shooter is Gears 3.
BTW dont refer to it as GoW. people might think you're talking about Kratos
Gears of war is objectively the best
>>341658385
>gears 4
why so little hype for this game? They had a gameplay trailer at E3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V-aBdWY2us
>>341658385
>BTW dont refer to it as GoW. people might think you're talking about Kratos
Both games earned the right to be called GOW. Also nobody itt would have got it confused due to thread topic.
>>341659223
some of the animations and transitions look rough as fuck, I really hope they don't keep them like that
whats with all the angry women particularly the one yelling in your face at the end?
>>341660164
>whats with all the women
You never played 3?
>>341657869
>>341658385
That's 4
Red Orchestra 2
>>341660523
I missed out on 2 and 3. Only played Gears 1 since that was the only one that came out on PC
>>341656382
Bound in blood
Binary DomainGhost Recon Future Soldier
Vanquish
because it's best played using as little cover as possible
>>341660784
el oh el
Vanquish
>>341660634
*james bond theme intensifies*
did having a cover system ruin max payne 3?
>>341662360
Cover systems ruin every game. Sitting behind waist high walls for an entire game isn't fun.
>>341656382
>What IS the best cover-shooters?
One and only.
>>341660634
i thought this was a modded max payne 2 game for a second
>>341662360
no, because as your webm shows towards the end it's fully dynamic and unobtrusive, and more of stylistic flair than absolutely necessary as evidenced by the rest of your webm
>>341662589
git gud. Any cover shooter worth its salt wont *force* you to play it like that, even on hard mode
sticky cover looks badass
I'm sorry but it's true
>>341660913
3 added a ton of female characters in combat. Anya started to fight as well. Ever since 3 there have been numerous females fighting locust alongside the males.
none, thank god this meme is ending
>>341662360
>all that fucking eyerape shit when it goes into bullet time
What the fuck is this shit? Is Max Payne 3 as shit as this webm?
>>341662792
Is it a good thing?
>>341660634
>>341656382
meanwhile in reality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnlDwEZkidI
>>341664202
You can turn the effects off
>>341664380
and when a superior game comes on for just a minute
>>341664202
Gameplay is good. Feels like Max Payne. Everything else is shitty.
>>341662360
No, being a fucking movie with complete disrespect for the players time or agency ruined the game
>Taking cover
What are you? Some kind ofperson who plays the game above Easy difficulty?
>>341664380
>Meanwhile in reality
Are you implying the webms are false or something? The video you posted shows the beginning of the game and pretty much everyone agrees that the beginning is a bit slow but gets better and better
Uncharted 3 dragged on for even longer
>>341664796
Nice framerate
>>341663796
"cover systems" aren't going anywhere, they're a fundamental part of TPS games now. They do it because games look realistic nowadays, and people would rather see the player take cover and flank the enemy than see him just brute-force fight them all as he tanks 100 bullets and survives somehow
we will probably start seeing a lot more games where the cover system is not "sticky", like in TLOU and Tomb Raider
it doesnt hold up but i still nostalgia over kill switch being the first or one of the first
>I saved a bunch of webm's of a game I hate to shitpost with on a Ethiopian Iron working board
>>341664826
not him but uncharted just has never been a very engaging series to play. Gameplay was and is always an after thought.
>>341664796
>>341664826
You can do shit like this in gameplay
Then in the movies you can only watch helplessly as he struggles to fend off even one person. I honestly believe the team behind the cutscenes doesnt even know they're for a video game or what the video game is about.
>>341657108
LOL
What was this game like? Was it actually any fun?
>>341665286
>Gameplay was and is always an after thought.
I disagree, the animations connect perfectly with everything and they look very good, plus the gunplay is faster and more satisfying than past Uncharted games
The pacing is a bit slow at the beginning and they definitely wanted too much platforming compared to their older games but 4 is otherwise a very fun game to play and it looks very good on top of it
>in the movies you can only watch helplessly as he struggles to fend off even one person
That's Druckmann's fault and his writing
Nadine was a terribly written character that didn't face any consequence and left the story unscathed, while all of her men died and she risked her life multiple times
>>341656382
As much shit as uncharted gets on here, that does look pretty fun. I would definetly try it if I had a ps4.
>>341665925
The MP is great too. Shame about the hipfire auto aim nerf though. It made point blank engagements hilarious.
idort here
Uncharted 4, Max Payne 3 and Gears of War 3 are the holy trifecta of cover shooters for me
>>341656382
uncharted series
gears series except judgment
metal gear online 1 and 2, portable ops, 3 is shit
warhawk and starhawk
resident evil 4 and 5 if that counts
cant think of many others worth mentioning
>>341666968
The problem is with the community though
The teams I end up being assigned to is always the team that either doesn't use Cintamani stone/medipack or simply won't heal you
I hope more content will come soon and that the Autumn coop includes survival because I loved it so much in Uncharted 2 and 3
>>341667207
funny enough, these were recorded on crushing difficulty
it is the very first real fight of the game though
>>341668894
I was surprised at how every animation blends greatly with everything ever since I had my first experience in the closed beta
If only ND added the MP skins for Drake, Elena and Sully I would replay it first with Uncharted 1 skins then 2 and then 3
I doubt that will ever happen though
>>341668894
looks like the guards really just wanted to spread out so they could surround you but they were drawn in by the trap of trying to punch you as they passed by
>>341659223
Nolan North really doesn't fit this series, assuming that's him.
>>341670372
That's not even close to him.
Binary Domain is good
>>341656382
cover shooters were a mistake.
What should have catch on was bullet time shooters like max payne and stranglehold. I can't believe mp3 came out, was super successful and well received, and then no one fucking copied it, not even the people that made it.
>>341670959
How is a generic gears clone better than Gears itself?
Because it's not and you're full of shit, weeb.
>>341670658
Still, he needs about 10x more phlegm in his performance.
>>341671091
>bullet time shooters
slowmo is for fucking casuals.
>>341659223
>why so little hype for this game
gow was always notoriously disliked here on /v/ man. gow, halo, god of war, you tried to tell /v/ those were good games a while ago you'd get your thread shitposted to death.
>>341671189
I dont play consoles
>>341671281
so are third person cover shooters.
You cannot fucking deny that max payne 3 is superior to every single cover shooter out there.
>>341659223
nobody owns an xbone
>>341671189
Shooting is fun and the characters are miles better than what both gow and uncharted have to offer. It's a better game all around.
>>341671091
oh please
people complain cover shooters are for casuals and then act like bullet time is not the most casual thing ever.
Anyone who actually played Max Payne 1 or 2 knows that the game was the most fun when bullet time was only used occasionally.
You should be glad no one is copying the style, because it would get really old really fucking fast.
>>341662360
>>341671717
So, this game it looked unbelievibly bad,silly, tired rip off of the Terminator mythos with embarassing stereotyped characters, laughable dialog and sub-par visuals compared Gears 3.
>>341671768
all third person cover shooters are for casuals. Might as well have a mechanic that encourages something other then just hiding behind a wall playing peek-a-boo
>>341671717
BD isn't a bad game. It's a fun and competent 3rd person shooter.
That said, it comes nowhere near the polish of Gears. Not in the core gunplay, nor the variety of enemies and arenas, and certainly not in presentation.
It's not just a matter of budget. Epic has been making Gears games for a while. They've obviously fine-tuned the gameplay to a high degree.
>>341671768
/v/ probably likes max payne because it's flashy and wacky like their platinum shit that they hype up. But at the end of the day, both games are shallow and casual as shit. Style over substance.
>>341671717
>>341671189
you friggin serious... you realize Gears basically revolutionized the TPS genre that binary domain utilizes.
Gears has a better story premise, perhaps the story is really well executed in BD, but the gears campaign itself is insane. Gears is not about directing your teammates, it's about a visceral, perfect, satisfying, and tactical combat experience. Yes in binary domain you can command teammates, but the experience doesn't match the fluidity and pure skill of gears of war.
And you must be forgetting gears 3 has 4 player seamless co-op, horde mode, beast mode, and the best pinnacle multiplayer experience (for a TPS). Talk about a "complete experience" lol.
Ordering teammates doesn't mean shit when you and 3 of your friends can strategize in open combat throughout the campaign. Seriously, on harder difficulty the way you have to conserve ammo, share weapons, split the different types of enemies up is amazing. Not to mention how much strategy you have to use for horde mode.
I'll stop at that because going into multiplayer will just embarrass Binary domain.
>>341672253
>Might as well have a mechanic that encourages something other then just hiding behind a wall playing peek-a-boo
most of them do. Tackling the whack-a-mole problem is probably the biggest challenge in designing good combat mechanics for a cover shooter
>>341672253
Max payne 2 happens to have a FPS mod.
I highly recommend, it never clips and it really makes it more immersive when going through the cardboard asylum.
>>341672487
says the guy on console shooter thread
I'll never understand how you guys are so insecure about your genre that you have to pretend it's "hardcore" when everyone knows that cover tps is the most tired and casual genre a game can be.
>>341672769
You would get your ass bodied in Gears, fool, lmao.
>>341673039
#rekt xDD
>>341673039
thanks for proving me right.
>>341672675
yeah the co-op stuff really puts gears in a league of its own. Not even just for cover shooters, but for action games in general.
but the vast majority of /v/ never got to experience anything like that so how can you blame them for not knowing. They were probably repulsed by the idea of "xbox chads playing GOW together" at the time
>>341660974
You forgot your daily spam with blades and shit, oh might as well forget the cover system at this point.
You know what, forget cover.
>>341664237
every webm I have seen of this game is of some faggot without body armor being shot multiple times as he charges enemies in entrenched firing positions
I have literally never played an uncharted game in my life, so I am wondering if there is some sort of explanation for this. Is the MC some type of super hero? Or is this just casual shit for normie retards, so they can feel like they are playing a game and not a glorified movie?
>>341671189
>>341672258
>>341672675
Personally i prefer BD over gears.
Second, did you know it was a namco game that inspired gears to use the cover system ?
You wouldnt know the name of the game if you aint a fan of cover shooters.
>>341660974
>QTE and slowmo bullshit
Nope, casual.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IbYYrZ91h4
>>341672760
if its still available, get "BenDman's Bloody mod" for MP2. I used to sink hours into that shit.
it's just the vanilla game with some extra blood effects (tasteful; not overdone at all) but it also lets bullets pass through most walls and cover objects, like they would in real life. It really can change the gameplay in some very interesting ways
>>341659223
probably this honestly
>>341671657
>>341660974
More games need rocket power knee slides and designated cigarette buttons
>>341674052
>i have seen one or two videos of vanquish and am desperate to defend uncharted and other chest-high wall simulators
thanks for sharing
>>341657108
>'arry potter
>cover shooting
>no shield spell?
>>341672675
>Gears basically revolutionized the TPS genre
You mean Kill Switch.
Please go back to whatever shithole you came from.
>>341673746
>Is the MC some type of super hero
pretty much. Playing as him, he is a one man army. Ideally, you should not be getting shot much at all.
Why does that matter all of a sudden anyway? You act like you don't regularly get shot and still win in other shooters too
>>341674551
I know what fucking KillSwitch is retard. Being the first doesn't mean you're the best. That would mean ultima 1 is the best rpg of all time. Gears took Kill Switch's cover and IMPROVED it exponentially.
>>341674551
he's right though
gears was the first big cover shooter and is very much responsible for making it popular.
>>341674551
i truly hate it when people compare gow to killswitch. I can see why people do, some people do because its been done before, well have you seen halo, its been done since the supernintendo, think of doom, wolfenstein, starwars. fps have been around forever. And killswitch setting was present, gow is in the future. ks your fighting humans, gow your fighting drones and a variety of different creatures. The only things thats somewhat similar is the gameplay. ks you duck behind cover and shoot, and blindfire and chuck grenades. Gow you do all that and more, you use a chainsaw gun, you accually can control your grenades, ducking behind cover is taken to a whole nother level. and coop and multiplayer, an interesting story. so i dont wanna here gow compared to killswitch ever again.
>>341662360
No because if you were good enough you didn't have to use it at all. It's only really there for when you fuck up
>>341664202
I liked MP3 quite a bit actually. It's not really Max
Payne but its a pretty good game with trials and stuff. The story is kind of cool too, I liked Max's portrayal.
>>341674551
Killswitch was good but had problems,I wouldn't really compare the whole game with GoW,Only the cover system really, that's about it, if anything Gears of War could be compared with GRAW as others said, It's probably a better comparison because GRAW was way better than Killswitch,but Gears of War is an awesome game in its own right and shouldn't really be compared to anything until we play it,that way we would know how it plays, then we could make an accurate comparison.
>>341673746
He can drop 50 feet and catch himself on a tiny ledge with his fingertips. It's sort of like an over the top action movie, not really going for realism.
>>341673746
>all shooting games should have you die in exactly one shot for maximum realism
>I have literally never played a shooter that wasn't ARMA and I am proud of this fact
Your (you) will be in the mail.
>>341672487
Did you ever do the challenges/trials/whatever they're called? Those were the best part of MP3 for me and took some actual skill, its the closest thing to 3rd person Hotline Miami that i've played.
>>341674551
A key component to revolutionizing a genre is for the game to be popular enough to catch the attention of other developers. Kill Switch isn't popular, and Gears of War is.
Max Payne. Cover was optional though.
>>341674052
>all quick time events
>4 minute video
YEAH THAT'S ALL THE GAME IS
retard.
>>341676009
>he has to strawman to have an argument
>he's never played STALKER on master
>>341676236
Slow mo is LITERALLY function in the game.
>>341656382
GoW
>>341676162
in max payne 3, cover was only optional if you used bullet time ensure that you always win (that shit is for pussies)
If you played without slo mo, you needed cover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdfcEuXTfpo
>>341673746
It's like Nathan's protagonist plot armor "luck" is running out when shots get too close and he dies in one.
>>341673746
it's not meant to be realistic
>>341676762
>last man standing
>>341664380
>purposefully being negative
Oh Rich Evans, you hack fraud.
>>341671091
> I can't believe mp3 came out, was super successful and well received, and then no one fucking copied it, not even the people that made it.
Theres a rumour that the next Red Dead is going to have it.
>>341668894
I love the fluidity of the movement
>>341677593
I'm Nathan Drake, and welcome to Jackass.
GTA5 and GTA4 have good cover systems. You usually only need to use them when you are really feeling trapped, so it can be very intense
>>341656382
There's no such thing as good cover shooter. The cover mechanic is an abomination that was introduced because gamepadfags weren't able to strafe out of corners or use lean mechanics. Now we're stuck with third person shooters that have cameras that are completely useless when approaching corners from the right side because the only way to aim at the enemy without using cover is to stand in the open.
>>341678426
>no crosshair
>no aiming reticle
>video game
TLOU has the best cover system
there is no blindfiring because nobody does that shit in real life
you dont stick to walls because that's not realistic either. You just kind of tuck up against them when you're close
>>341680473
>babby needs the HUD turned on to play uncharted
git gud
>>341680353
>leaning
>in third person shooters
is this nigger serious?
people switched to cover shooters in TPS because it isn't realistic to watch your character tank hundreds of bullets and shake it off like nothing
>>341674420
https://youtu.be/e5VnE1jm32k?t=504
lel
Taking it way back to the source.
>magnetize your back against a wall
>Perfectly safe
>Just play whack a mole with enemies as they shuffle around incapable of hitting you
How do people seriously enjoy cover shooters?
>>341681365
>git gud
Apparently you need to be good at a game where you take 50 bullets before you die?
>>341683107
>what is crushing difficulty
>>341656382
Currently this is my top pick. Aids team mates and there are so many tactics involved.
I liked Dark Sector, but some of the best are in the vein of Metal Gear Solid and Gears of War.
>>341684161
How old is this screenshot?
>>341660634
>health regen
>>341684321
>I liked Dark Sector,
Man, I remember not taking cover on hard because I really really liked the Aftertouch ability
>>341681365
>>babby needs the HUD turned on to play uncharted
>implying the game doesn't autoaim everything for you
Nigger, stop being stupid.
>because it isn't realistic to watch your character tank hundreds of bullets and shake it off like nothing
>saying this while playing uncharted
L
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Also git gud, the idea is to strafe out of corners to NOT get hit, Mr. Scrub.
>>341686294
aim assist is an option in the settings. You can literally put it at 0 if you want
and in uncharted it's not easy to say whether those bullets are connecting or just grazing / flesh wounds. Most of the time you see the player getting away with being rambo, it's because the enemies are missing most of their bullets a la stormtrooper aim
>strafing
we're not talking about first person shooters here
>>341680930
>the_crate_whisperer.jpg
meh they all suck
>>341680930
this
though sticky cover has its place too
I like them if they aren't whack-a-mole
>>341656382
is this real life
>>341691520
what a fucked up game
How did ND get away with this shit?
>>341671091
>>341671506
Every cover shooter would be better if they had a shootdodge button
so... is there ever going to be a gears of war 2 / 3 remaster for xbone or PC? It's kind of fucked that the only platform to play them on is still just xbox 360
>>341674551
>>341672675
>>341671189
>Kill switch
You mean winback, kiddo!
if I had to make a list of vidya genres from best to worst, cover shooters would be at the very bottom, I really can't think of a worse genre, cowering behind vocer, waitung for your turn to shoot, terrible
>>341684775
T. never played an Uncharted game
>>341662360
Don't make me reinstall, that shit is like 600 GB
>>341670959
>Binary Domain
>Cover shooter
I never went into cover, I kept running around hipfiring my way to victory. I kept buying stability upgrades for my gun and aimed for headshots, the game was super easy, and I loved it when I mowed down waves of those stupid clankers.
>>341693415
You either just suck and don't understand how to play them, or you are basing your opinion off bottom of the barrel shit like that Harry Potter game. Good cover shooters are designed to make whack-a-mole ineffective >>341672698
GoW and rainbow six Vegas
>>341691667
is this just fanta sea
mass effect 2 / 3
3 actually has decent MP even
Gears of War 1-3 especially if you are able to do the coop with friends
also Uncharted 2-4
>>341662360
nope, having several fun modes, modifiers, and difficulty levels while having unskippable cutscenes killed it
Gears
>>341660974
This cover shooters are for retards.
>>341666968
that actually looks really fun
>>341693282
Why is that bad?
You can only play Shenmue on Dreamcast.
Just keep your fucking consoles, you piece of shit pckek.
>>341700783
I never even got the chance to play them because I never had a 360, and I dont want to have to buy a 360 to play them now.
it's been fucking years. There should be a fucking PC port
>>341698126
SHAKE N BAKE BAYBEEEEE
Fuck I miss GoW
>>341694868
what is with that retarded camera movement?
>>341701515
it gets like that when you're about to drown
>>341701727
I think he means the movement itself
the player moves the camera like that because the direction you swim with L-stick is relative to the direction you have the camera pointed
Or you can just use X and circle to go up and down
