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Has everyone forgotten about Dark Souls 3 already? I haven't
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Has everyone forgotten about Dark Souls 3 already? I haven't seen any threads in a while.
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>>341650102
I preordered at christmas and still havent opened the box, i think im depressed
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Played 113 hours in the first week and got burned out so hard I won't touch it until the DLC is out.
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>>341650102
Finished once. It's garbage.
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I can't beat the final boss after he gets his little brother to cast magic for him.

Fucking fucks.

The guys even mock me after I die.

>this spot marks our grave, but you may rest here, if you like

Fucking bullshit. Help me guys.
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>>341650102
Burnt out on it after 400 hours
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>>341651134
That's not the final boss.
Also you are a shitter.
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I did tbqhfam

It felt like a Dark Souls Lite, or something. I got like 25 hours out of my first playthrough, like 7 out of my 2nd and that was kind of it. Didn't hate it, didn't love it.
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>>341651134
Thats not the final boss
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It's kinda bad, to be honest. It's the weakest in the series.
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>>341650857
Same story for me.
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>>341651328
help me here senpai
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>>341651397

Only Bloodborne is better
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>>341651538
I'm at work now
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>>341650102
PvP is shit

and I dont care about honorabru duels

invasions invariably turn into 2-4 v 1, and there is no fun in that

no poise, which mean that light wepaon spam is king, especially since shields dont deflect attacks anyome and are shit at blocking

Phantom range

rolling rolling rolling rollingrolling rollingrolling rollingrolling rollingrolling rollingrolling rollingrolling rollingrolling rollingrolling rollingrolling rollingrolling rolling

etc...

I had less fun in pvp in Ds3 than Ds2
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>>341651538
Summon.
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>>341651569
You know what, I don't even have a PS4, but what I played of Bloodborne over at a friend's house was incredible. The atmosphere is amazing, and DaSIII is severely lacking in that aspect.
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>>341651693
Learn to use hyperarmor retard
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There's nothing to talk about, everyone's waiting for the DLC.
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>>341651693
The PvP is really bad.

Not just the PvP, actually. The entire game feels floaty as fuck. Since you can spam roll at under 70% equip load and there's no poise. You feel no weight to your character at all.
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>>341651397
>>341651569
let's start this shit again shall we
DS1>BB>DS3>>>>>>stale cum>>>>>>>DS2
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>>341650857
Overwatch burned me out on it. I played nearly 200 hours playing every day for about 2 weeks, then I played overwatch during the weekend closed beta in april. Kept having the urge to play overwatch so when it finally released I pretty much played nothing but that and forgot about DS3.

Still like it but damn, I have way too many games and I can't decide what to play. Thank god I have almost no backlog.
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>>341651879
2 is better than 3. It had good PvP, and it has an identity, it atempted new things. It actually pushed the series forward, 3 feels like a step back. Too much borrowing from the first game.
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>>341651879
BB>DaS3=DaS1>DeS>literal shit>DaS2
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Great game but the replayability is lacking desu. NG+ is terrible and feels like a slog to get through. Also the pvp gets boring when everyone just uses ss
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>>341651879
DS1 = DS3 > Bloodborne > DS2
I also love ds2
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bored in 48
ds2 had 200
das had 950 something
des probably the same
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>>341650102

thats because souls have always been a forced meme, and 3 isn't good enough to keep the forced bullshit alive

miazaki has always been a total hack
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>>341650102
I am still playing DS2.
It is simply more fun to play.
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>>341652079
DS2 had serious problems, but at least it tried to do something new

DS3 is fanservice, the game

Its funny how the new game put Ds2 in perspective
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>>341652079
2 was 10 steps backs in all directions from ds1. it didn't had good pvp.

>>341652275
>ds2
>not fan service the game
ds2 have much more fan service than ds3. Also, ds3 didn't tried to do something new, it WANTED to do something new, but namco made they do just a ds1 copy:solaire references edition
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>>341652275
>but at least it tried to do something new
It did a lot of things actually.Someone should make a list of all the stuff they implemented.The amount of mechanics and special boss/level stuff they added is staggering when compared to DS1 and DS3.
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>>341650102
>Has almost no replay-ability
>Shitty online PvP
>Not nearly challenging enough.
>Broken stats and weapons everywhere.
>Broken covenants.
I put almost a hundred hours into it, but unless they're going to fix a ton of things and add a lot with the DLCs I don't feel like playing through it a third time.
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>>341652392
>it didn't had good pvp.
>I play Dark Souls for the pvp
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>>341652392
keep believing that

Ds2 was for all intent and purposes a new IP with the Dark Souls name.

Ds3 want to be Ds1 and Bloodborne at the same time and fail in both way because these two game are mutually exclusive
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>>341651879

OH>Sotfs>Aota>Das>Das2>BB

Haven't played Des or Das3 at least not yet.

I even liked Sotfs more than OH but since OH is really top notch on quality I cannot deny it's rightful first spot.
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I haven't finished this game... It's boring as fuck. I was so hyped, coming from the first game, I skipped 2 waiting for it. I didn't spoil myself out of anything, pre-ordered the game and was playing day 1.

The first few hours were incredible, High Wall of Lothric was a really great area, very atmospheric and fun to explore. After that though the game kind of went downhill.

The areas that come after are boring and uninspiring. After going through a bunch of "old ruin" and church areas, and rehashed Anor Londo, I was already burned out.

So I beat Aldrich, and thought Irythill Dungeon was optional, so I wend there and woops I just found the last Lord of cinder. It felt like they ran out of time and threw him there.

So I stopped right after killing the Yhorm. Does the game get any better after him? I saw some screenshots from a desert area that had bright blue skies and it looked great.
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>>341652552
When he says PvP he means the online component in general.In DS II everyone from the PvP guys to the sunbros were able to enjoy themselves with fun covenants that worked like the bell and the rats.

And there were PvE covenants too for people who were more into the offline experience.
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I have time to play it only on weekends, i cannot play it on my laptop but im patient
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>>341650102
I've beaten the game 4 times now. I enjoy playing with different builds and trying new places to invade and stuff. It stays interesting if you try different covenants, side quests, etc..

that being said, it's NOT hard enough. if anything the alligator things in anor londo in that basement are just too fucking cheap besides when i went pure INT and wrecked them.
There's just no asshole-clinching moments like in Dark Souls 1 or even 2 desu.
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>>341650857
Same, the fact that it's soo linear kills it for me, at least till the DLC drops.

DS2 lasted way more because you could do the 4 lord souls in any order and that added to the replayability a ton before the DLC hit.
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>>341652952
It's true. I was disappointed. The infinite roll spam invincibility makes the game too easy.
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>>341651134
Summon a cuck.
Don't summon 2/3, the boss gets too much HP and it makes it harder 90% of the time.
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>>341651879
DS2 > DS3

Miyazaki got old.
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>>341652518
you are just describing the first ds2 before soft was released.


>>341652552
I don't and i didn't said i do, retard

>>341652682
ds2 killed the souls franchise
bad npcs, retarded hitboxes, floaty gameplay, 90% of bosses and enemies are awful
ds3 is not 10/10 but without doubt is better than ds2.
ds2 could be good but it failed on all aspects at the end after hyping everyone
if it at least looked good like the beta, and not literally worst than demon's souls...
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>>341651134
Gwyn is the final boss, not Lothric
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>>341653226
>implying miyazaki wanted to do ds3
>implying ds3 development didn't started without him
>implying he didn't only joined the team to make sure it won't be as bad as ds2 was
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>>341653260
>you are just describing the first ds2 before soft was released.
I'm really not, since even base game DaS2 had a better NG than DaS3 does, I also remember covenants working just fine.
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>>341651134
what r u, casul?
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>>341653570
I wish it was as "bad" as DS2 because even vanilla DS2 had more stuff to do and discover after a first playthrough.

DS3's PvP is shit, build variety is shit, there's way less spells than in 2, weapon moveset variety is shit.

The DLC has a lot of work to do.
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Because it's shit.

Gimmick bosses out the ass.

Rehashed weapons and armors.

Enemy variety is awful. Most enemies are generic undead.
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It was talked about in it's release month, then swept aside by something new. Now the only threads about it on /v/ are shitposting ones. You'll have to brave /vg/ to talk about it.

Just like every fucking game on /v/.
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>>341650102
Yes. Game is incredibly boring. Ni challenge, no environment, every area feels like it should have been 10x larger. The DLC is probably going to be shit, too.
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>>341653260
>DS2 bad hitbox meme
>can literally dodge every attack in the game with base SL1 ADP
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>>341653226
Miyazaki prefered the fast paced style of gameplay of DeS and Bloodborne, and tried to implement in the Dark Souls serie.

But while DeS and BB gameplay was made around that fact, the DaS3 gameplay is better suited to 1v1 slow(er) methodical combat.

Poise was en excellent system for DaS because it gave you more variables to play around.
Even if it was too easy to crank it up without penalties i.e. fatrolling

The multiplayer aspect is made for 2+v2 in a game that is better suited for 1v1

Its too easy to gank invader and red phantom cannot relie on any mechanics to counter ganksquad.

Basically, Miyazaki has no one to tell him that his ideas sucks and that he should tone them down.

Hes the George lucas of videogames and DeS, DaS and BB are the original trilogy and Ds2 and 3 are the prequels
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>>341654102
Don't bother.

A lot of noobs found DS2 too hard without those i-frames so they are shitting on the game.

You should see the salt when they start talking about soul memory.
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>>341654102
0:15
he got grabbed, but because the way the hitboxes work in this game are fucking retarded, you have to wait to be grabbed to dodge so i frames can save you, otherwise you will be teleporter
>bad hitbox meme
>this bullshit
>Not bad
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>>341651914
I'm similar, save for the fact that I have a huge backlog and Overwatch and Dark Souls 3 are the only games on it I've been playing.
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>>341654102

Not entirely clear how a guy being 3 feet away from the enemy qualifies as good hitboxes.
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>>341654580

never had something like this happen to me in around 800 hours playtime.
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>>341654580
Nope, you just have to roll very late if you don't have ADP.

DS2 is like DS1 in that sense that it's not for noob roll spammers like most of DS3 and the first half of BB.

Nice example webm of a noob roll spammer that dodged like 2 seconds too early, what a sad sight.
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>>341654463
Soul memory was an interesting concept. Basically it meant that the ones who did the playthrough flawless had the best rating and thus the easiest matchmaking in pvp. The problem i found was that you had to stop doing pve shit whenever you reached your desired build/equipment, or face higher leveled/better equiped players in the same matchmaking tiers thanks to the souls you gained. Agape was a solution, but really? You have to give up a ring slot just to not mess up your build for pvp? Thats a flaw.
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>>341654580
>be shit at rolling
>join champion's covenant

That must be DSP.
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>>341652727
You've finished like 3/4 of the game. After is Lothric Castle and the Grand Archives, which are my favorite levels with a lot of elevators and interconnected design. There's also two optional areas you get access to from within.

The desert area is one of those optional areas.
Best bossfight of the game at the end of it. Area itself is OK, decent level design and palatable length. Great atmosphere.
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>>341655209
They should've just made SM only count the souls you spend at a shop or at the Herald.
Best of both worlds.
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Its funny how the entire community hyped the game up so much but the fatigue set in faster than any past title. Face it guys you burnt yourself out. you put countless hours into the first. you put countless hours into the second(although you wont admit it on /v/) you put countless hours into bloodborne. and you then marathoned them all and solely played souls games for the month and a half leading up to 3, THEN you only played 3 for the 2 or 3 weeks after it came out.

You've played it so much that all possible fun the game could have had wasn't their because you were burnt out before you even popped the game in.
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>>341655209
No you have to give up a slot only if you want to keep a certain sm and twink there.If you don't plan on twinking you just progress with everyone else forward and evolve your build accordingly.
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>>341652727
The good bosses are after Yhorm and Aldrich.

Also go play DS2, it's better in many ways, worse on a few.
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>>341655425
>can't do gimmick archery builds because arrows cost souls
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>>341650857
/thread
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>>341650102
Waiting for the DLCs to start to drop.
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>>341655249

Champions is the best covenant in all of souls.

Prove me wrong faggots.
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>>341655249
my first time playing i joined the champions covenant
me:
>wow this game is hard!
>discover and turn off the covenant
>game is ultra easy with the exception of the bad hitboxes
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All Ds2 fags please kill yourself. Thanks!
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>>341652275

I agree. Dark Souls 2 with all the DLC/Scholar of the First Sin is a damn good entry.

However, I feel like with DLC Dark Souls 3 is going to be the best of the series overall. Just like how Dark Souls 2 vanilla managed to be worse than Dark Souls 1 with DLC.

These games are nothing without the DLC to correct the shitty decisions and time constraints.

For now to me: Dark Souls 1 with DLC>Dark Souls 2 with DLC>Dark Souls 3>Dark Souls 1>Dark Souls 2
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>>341655425
No.
SM is a great deterrent for people who overuse the soul eating hexes.
>wow such spells
>such power
>20 minutes later
>Why am i fighting people who are so many levels above me?
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>>341654958
I like how you're so salty about rolling that you call it roll spammers. Instead of r1'ing your rapier until your stamina runs out, why not try charging a strong attack, baiting them into an attack or even vary the timing of your attacks? Just like every other pvp in existence, you cant be mad for someone using a certain tactic. You should be mad at yourself for not being able to deal with it
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>DS2 comes out and has little to no fanservice
>everybody hates it for it
>DS3 comes out and has fanservice
>everyone hates it for it
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>>341655482
Probably. I KNOW that I was on hype overload in the first weeks, and I couldn't stop playing it, but I must have gobbled it up too fast and now it just sits there, being uninteresting.

That being said I have over 200 hours in it, and few games can bring me up to that.
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>>341650102
Beat it about 4 times and put 40 or 50 hours into pvp worth the money but moved on to witch dlc, and overwatch
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>>341650857
>16 hours a day playing a game
holy fuck how do you even manage that?
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I got bored it after my first NG+.
The whole darkmoom and aldritch faithful summing thing puts me off playing since you need items from all factions to get the trophies.

It really turned me off the game so I will wait until DLC.
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>>341651134
I don't understand how you people have a problem defeating the princes, they're one of the easiest boss fight.
All their attacks are so fucking telegraphed, I don't understand how you can even get hit. Just stand behind them and whack at the younger brother.
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>>341655482
>although you wont admit it on /v/
I'll admit it.I like DS2 a lot.
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>>341655816
I'm not salty about rolling, but in DS3 and BB rolling/dashing barely costs any stamina and randomly mashing roll works too well for most of the game, unlike DS1 and DS2.

And in PvP it's a fucking mess when you have a guy against a corners and he just rolls in place dodging 5+ attacks.
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>>341655849
It's called Zelda Syndrome.
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>>341650102
In terms of straight up level design, it's one of the best in the series.
Let's look at it solely on an area to area basis.

DeS had great areas because they were disconnected and essentially full on Mario style. They could be built without having to worry about anything but making a good level.

DaS had a fantastic interconnected world which gave it high replay value, but too many people equate replay value with quality. Literally half of the game's areas are mediocre to bad because they had to be designed to not only loop around themselves, but loop around the ENTIRE game world, plus the endgame was obviously rushed.

DaS2 is bad and we don't talk about it. Do not reply to DaS2 posters.

BB is somewhere between DeS and DaS. There's no master key that lets you skip straight to all the endgame areas from the start or anything, but you've got options, and pretty much no weak areas whatsoever. Forbidden Forest's shortcuts make me jizz every time.

DaS3 returns to the DeS style and has, again, a Mario-style linearity in all of its areas which makes the individual areas all good (except demon ruins holy shit). The problem is, it dresses things up like it's open, when in reality it barely is at all.
The only significant skip in the game is rushing the Dancer, and even then, that's a really hard thing to pull off and only gets you a few good lategame items early on, nothing like rushing Darkroot for Grass Crest and Elite knight.
Ultimately, DaS3 has the best design of the bunch and there's almost no full-on bad areas in the game. But the linear focus to make those areas so good eliminates replay value which hopefully the DLC will add some more of.

Basically, Bloodborne a best.
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>>341655507
So upgrading different sets of armor and weapons for the sake of variety or just doing more playthroughs with the same character to see how far you can get without starting the same build anew is called twinking now?
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>>341653068
>go back to DaS1 because of global reset day
>can't dodge for shit
>use up all my stamina a lot
>can't time i-frames without going to fastroll

DaS3 ruined me
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>>341654205
>slow(er) methodical combat.
Shouldn't you be making your "its up" threads?
If you used a hand axe or anything that wasn't a mid-late game strength weapon the game isn't as slow as you may think.
>Four Kings is an example of a boss that demonstrates slow methodical combat
>New Londo ghosts are slow and methodical and totally don't spam attacks indiscriminately from behind walls

The gameplay has just improved over many sequels to the point that the AI no longer leaves itself completely open to the point where you can slam your great club at it with ease repeatedly, every single time, and every time you get up from the bonfire.
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>>341656165
>DaS2 is bad and we don't talk about it. Do not reply to DaS2 posters.

Not an argument.
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>>341656139
I wish you could see how many hours of a game you've played total on console, so you could add it all up across all your platforms. Probably have 400-500 hours on Xbox.
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>>341656238
Going back to 4 way directional rolling is soo annoying as well.
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>>341656308
forgot pc hours

>>341656238
>go back to DS1 for global restart day
>giant dads and hornet flippers everywhere
I don't know what I even expected.
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>>341655551
I skipped 2 only because I wanted to play 3 while it was new (finished 1 in March).

I have 2 already bought. I played a bit of it, up to the first boss, and from what I played it felt really good. I want to finish 3 already so I can jump to it.
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>>341656202
You can't do that with the agape since you lock your souls.You put the agape only after you get the armor and weapon you desire to play.

What you are talking about makes no sense.
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>>341656139
I probably have 2000 hours in DS2 and SotFS.
Tanimura a best.
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>>341656289
If I had to go into everything that makes DaS2 a pile of shit we'd be here all week, and the post was long enough already.
Considering every Souls game got some kind of major throwback except DaS2, which got nothing except the Mirrah set and a dead laddersmith, I think From refuses to reply to DaS2 posters too.
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>>341656238
You ruined yourself, I've never had the need to dodge more than twice in these games. If you see someone spamming dodge, it means they are shit and are panicking.
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>>341650102
I haven't even finished it yet. I was so fucking disappointed when I got to Irithyll and it was blocked off and then found the dead end after Deacons. Anor Londo was what finally made me drop it. The final Souls game and it's the most linear one, bravo A team.
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>>341656147
If he rolls through 5 attacks he simply is better at timing his rolls than you are at timing your attacks. Doing a weapon art, charging a strong attack or casting pretty much any spell already denies rollspamming. And if he attempts to roll attack you, Id like to remind you that EVERY roll attack can be parried
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>>341656045
>you need items from all factions to get the trophies

my only non-issue complaint with ds3, i fucking hate the dorkmoon covenant
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>>341656139

I admit I was kinda turned off with Das2 the first time I played it. But when I replayed SotFS I was really enjoying it. Moreso because they fixed the FUCKING DEADZONE which I had an issue with the first time playing it.
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>>341656653
DaS3 rewards panic rolling though. DaS1 doesn't, and DaS2 sure as fuck punishes you for it.
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i can't even bring myself to finish ng+. it's such a fucking snoozer
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Should I start with Bloodborne, or DS1?
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>>341656740
It works now at least.
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>>341656238
>finally got the play BB just recently
>love it so much I'm already halfway through a second playthrough
>"Oh look a DaS1 reset day, this sounds fun"
>tfw midrolling

I used to build every fucking character for midroll and I just can't do it anymore, it disgusts me emotionally
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I stopped because I don't care anymore..Bloodborne has taken it's place.
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>>341656447
>I don't know what I even expected.
You should go back to DS2.In one day i gought a hexer,a mage,a fist user,a guts build,a paladin,a pyro,a greathammer user,some crazy person surprised me at the red arena with a great bow.There were no two builds alike.
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I was so disinterested towards the end that I just summoned and afked for
>Dragonslayer Armor
>Faggy Princes
>Ocelottttttttttttttttttteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>Soul of Cinder

I think its bad. Not as bad as Dark Souls 2 by any stretch, but it has an aura of laziness about it that feels so completely worthless.
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Game has no fucking replay value. Shields are useless, magic is mostly shitty, heavy armor is worthless, most weapons are worthless. There's one way to play the game, roll through the boss's attacks and use one of the 4 good weapons.

compare to DaS1 which has loads of different playstyles.
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>>341656893
DaS1 -> 2 -> 3 -> BB
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>>341656165
I agree with you completely on your evaluation of DaS3, but your opinion on DaS2 is cancer and stifles discussion.

Did it fall behind the others? Yes, because in DaS3 you can see the fog wall at the Dragonslayer Armor from the top of Lothric Castle (where the golden knights are) when you get invaded, and in DaS2 you can't see your bloodstain from across the Ivory King DLC map. Which was one of the only maps where you would even see that far, anyway.

But it was still fun. Dynamic areas like the Gutter give you a sense of progression even if you've done them before and items like the Fragrant Branches really helped with replayability and added a mysterious atmosphere to the game.
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I'm enjoying this game a lot more than DS2 or DS1 on release, that's for sure. I only warmed up to those games after a lot of patches and DLC.
PCfags don't know the horror of console release DS1 balance.
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>>341651134
lvl?
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>>341656951
i now prefer fat roll to mid roll for some reason.

>>341657060
miyazaki didnt even wanted to make the game, its ok. ds3 is alright for a game with 0 inspiration.
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>>341656893
Demon's Souls if you can.
If you don't have a PS3, Dark Souls.
Bloodborne's design will only make sense if you're suffered the nightmare of equip load.
And if you play Demon's Souls first, the fucking nightmare of inventory burden.
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>>341651693
DS2 still has best PVP till today b team can't into pve
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>>341656510
What Im saying is that I like having multiple different sets applied to my build. Not only the partizan for my dex faith, but also a rapier a falchion, maybe another spear, or whatever meets the build stats. Doing this puts me in a higher tier than people who commit to one single weapon, one single armor, one single loadout. I prefer the non stringent way where I can upgrade 20 weapons to the max and have a fun mix of playstyles with one build without having to worry fighting people of dozens of soul levels higher
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>>341656893
des, then ds1, then bloodborne or ds3, bloodborne is faster so the other games(other than ds3) will feel slow, BB is also harder, so you will get very fucked playing it first.
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>>341651389
Yeah, thats me. Better than 2, worse than 1. Just OK. Vaguely interested in DLC.
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It feels like they attempted to fuse Dark Souls and Bloodborne and didn't take the best aspects of either game.

I mean yeah the controls are fantastic, but of all the fucking things they decided to take from Bloodborne, why did they take the lack of playstyle variety?
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>>341657101
>But it was still fun
Honestly, for me, it wasn't.
I tried my absolute best to stick through it solo, but at a certain point I didn't feel it was worth it anymore.
I didn't feel satisfaction getting through an area, just a sense of "fucking hell it's finally over."

Co-op with a friend is the only reason I pushed through to the end, and even then we didn't have the motivation to do the DLCs.

I'd have to do a break down of every single individual area to really express it properly, because in the end it's not really the mechanics or the overarching things that make me hate it.
There's just no area in the entire game that I don't hate, or that I don't think was just slapped together with no cohesion.

For me it's just not worth talking about because it would take a year just to explain.
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>>341656989
The most entertaining parts of 2's PvP for me:
>Fists
>Backsteps
>two UGS users going tete-a-tete and balancing carefulness and aggression due to huge hits and stamina consumption

Last point was against someone with that 500+ arena wins red phantom aura. Intense fight, especially since I didn't think of myself as that good at PvP before then.
We got each other down to a sliver of health, and I would've won if I landed the last hit. I heard the sound effect, but he didn't die, probably due to the hitbox connecting but the i-frames avoiding it (same thing happens in 3). I was using the Lost Sinner's Sword, which saps health on each hit, so that killed me without damaging him.

I really wish I had Shadowplay back then, because I would've loved to have recorded it.

I've had nothing anywhere near so intense in 3's PvP because there's rolling out the ass, so you no longer have people being so methodical with their actions.
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>>341657101
Fragrant Branches were fucking horrendous what are you even saying

>Dynamic areas like the gutter
What am I even fucking reading?

No area in Dark Souls 2 is "good". They're all shit. Forest of Fallen Giants tries so hard to be like the Undeadburg but fails to be anything other than a mess.
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>>341657385
what even are those things floating around dragonslayer armor supposed to be?
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It hasn't went on "le ebin steam sale" yet. Be patient and more threads should appear after the 23rd of June.

As for original buyers, everything about the game has already been discussed, it's a subpar but good Soulsborne game capitalizing on nostalgia. If you want memes wait for the steam sale audience to jump in.

By the way, how do you access that bonfire?
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>>341657331
Upgrading a few weapons and a few armor sets is not that much when it comes to souls especially later on.Just calculate your shit better so you can fit it into your desired soul memory bracket.Use the wiki if you are not sure what to do.

Now if you want to be a hipster with 20 upgraded weapons at level 50.

YES YOUR SOUL MEMORY WILL BE SHIT SO FUCK OFF!
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>>341657092
>compare to DaS1 which has loads of different playstyles.
>Global Restart event
>Run into 10 Giantdads and memebuilds before I decide to go play something else
Stop talking bullshit.
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>>341650102
>dark souls 1
the original star wars trilogy
>dark souls 2
the prequels
>dark souls 3
awakening of the force
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Any tips for a someone who had admired this series from afar and finally trying to break into this series?
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>>341657092
Using a shield is easymode for anything. Using a 4 weight blue kite shield guarantees tanking any combo a boss throws at you with 40 endurance with barely any damage as opposed to dying in 3 hits without it. This means people with a shield pressing l1 the entire game will beat bosses more easily than people memorizing combos, timing their hits, watching for tells and actually gitting gud at the game. Im not saying either tactic is better or worse, but saying shields are shit is plain retarded
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>>341658136
Are you telling me that the prequels are the best of all star wars?
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>>341658040
Nigger, nobody gives a fuck about PvP, PvP does not fucking matter, it is not the content that makes up the Souls games.

PvE is ALL that matters, and that is why DaS1 is king, there are loads of different ways to play the PvE content in DaS1.
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>>341657597
>take Bloodborne's poise mechanics
>take Bloodborne's changing of shields from a defensive tool to a projectile blocker
>take Bloodborne's emphasis on parrying
>take Bloodborne's fast enemies and aggressive combat style

>but don't take out equip load like Bloodborne did
>don't take out shields entirely despite the fact that they're solely for parrying
>don't take Bloodborne's weapons which were all essentially two weapons, making building around them more interesting
>don't take Bloodborne's potential for ranged-centric character builds
>don't take Bloodborne's attack-to-get-health-back mechanic

It's like they built a treehouse, said "let's build another," took out all the nails, and threw the wood into another tree without the nails
You're missing the part that held the fucking thing together in the first place you fucks
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>>341658213
>shields are great!
>just dump 40 points into a worthless stat
lel
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>>341658136
>The critical acclaimed
>The one people like because of the fights (PvP) while ignoring the rest of the nonsense
>The one that tries to evoke the first one's charm, but still needs a bit of work.
Sounds about right surprisingly I liked TFA
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>>341657827
>(You)
tree seeds
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>>341657827
Treedrakes. Signs of an age of fire coming to an end. Dark omens of an uninevitable end to everything you have ever known and the sounding of the bells ushering in a the possibility of an entire new existence that would twist and torment your soul beyond anything you ever imagined. Plus they make a cool sound when they attack.
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>>341657723
It's dynamic in the sense that you can light all the torches and look back upon it and feel like you've made progress, even if you've done it before on a previous run. In Aldia's Keep (which is unfortunately tiny, but still) the enemies can break out of the cages and become permanently free.

With a lot of other areas across the games, you can just speedrun through and there's not much that changes, and I feel like DaS2's levels underwent the most change between when you first entered and when you finished.
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>>341657929
Invisible walkway
Not even joking
Use prism stones

The NPC you find there asks if you can fly because she doesn't understand where you came from

>>341657827
They're called Pilgrim Butterflies
From their names, and the gigantic ribcages jutting out of their backs, it's assumed that they're what the little pilgrim dudes turn into if they take off their stone backpacks
The pilgrims are also all found in locations heading directly toward Lothric Castle, which is where the Pilgrim Butterflies are found
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>>341658318
if you had played des, you would know that ds3 is much closer to demon's souls than it is to bloodborne.
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>>341658209
Git gud
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>>341658290
I've gone through DS3 with 10 different.characters, and I'd say there's quite a lot variety in there.
Besides, PvE after Anal Rodeo and parts before Sen's Fortress is shit, so what does it matter? I've never replayed DS1 for the AMAZING PvE, I've replayed BB more because of that.
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>>341658686
I have. And I think DeS is one of the best games.
But I'm saying MECHANICALLY they took a lot from Bloodborne without putting into consideration that BB was a very different game mechanically.

The level design is entirely DeS though, I'll agree, which is both good and bad.
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>>341658495
>endurance
>being worthless in any soulsborne

Either you're so ironic you have transcended my reality, or you're retarded
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Beat the game normally. I still haven't completed my SL1 playthrough yet

Got up to Princes on SL1, died a few times, and put it down. I don't even consider Princes to be THAT difficult, I just got tired of it at that point. It's gross how the game has virtually no side-content whatsoever. This whole end-game stretch has just been "fast bosses who will one-shot me" one after another and it's so lame.
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>>341656001
By being an autistic NEET.
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>>341658876
It's only extremely good bread-and-butter in DS1, because it's a casual stat that governs a lot more than it should.
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>>341658876
>rolling costs nothing
>shields are only good for dogs and projectiles
>heavy armor doesn't do anything so it's always worth it to be at minimum equip load
>the only good weapons are regular shortswords which don't cost much to swing

seriously Endurance is not very useful in DaS3. Although it's still much better than Bloodborne where I don't even know why it's in the game.
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>>341657060
Just watch a let's play then, you fucking cuck.
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>>341658867
Two things kind of irked me about the level design in 3. Everything being anor londo scaled is one, and the areas are a little too cluttered with enemies. Especially later on, like the fortress before dragonslayer armour and the princes.
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>>341658209
Start with Demon Souls preferably but Dark Souls 1 is fine too. For a first playthough I suggest playing as melee only + shitty bow, just pick the weapon you like the most, everything that isn't obviously a joke weapon is viable as long as you upgrade.

Don't read guides or watch youtuber shit. First run blind, I feel like the game has better atmosphere if you play offline but I'm sure other people will disagree so it's up to you. If you are stuck, try going another direction, if you are stuck at a boss try leveling up a bit and upgrading your gear, don't be ashamed of summoning.

2nd playthough: mandatory for DaS 1 at the very least. Go read about the game and the secrets and enjoy the shit you missed during your first blind playthrough.

From there on just play whichever you want just be sure to play DaS III before Bloodborne because BB is the best in the series and you will be sad to end your journey with DaS III.
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10/10 it's passable
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>>341658895
>It's gross how the game has virtually no side-content whatsoever
Isn't there like 2 optional areas? Isn't that what side content is?
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>>341658867
He meant mechanically.
The fp bar, the parries, the backstabs, the movement almost literally are based on demon souls. You've never played it clearly
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>>341656165
>DaS2 is bad
Only if you don't like having fun
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>>341658209
play DaS1
Try to play it mostly blind, you ARE likely to get lost or stuck and need a walkthrough at some point, but not to beat bosses, only if you get lost and can't find where you need to go.
don't put any points into Resistance.

beginner tip pick Knight or Sorcerer, and pick the Master Key
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>>341659061
>it's still much better than Bloodborne where I don't even know why it's in the game

Because Bloodborne cut out the fat of all the useless stats
That's BB's strength, it streamlined everything very well
You can have health, you can have stamina, or you can have a damage stat
That's all you get

The lack of equip load makes putting points into pure stamina worthwhile, though I will agree there's really no point in putting endurance past like 20 or so
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>>341658876

To be fair never did once leveled endurance in Bloodborne since you can pretty much dodge or attack with minimal consumption. Which made it a waste of stat points when I can focus on Vit or Arcane.
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I don't have problems with poise because of HA. The big problems are META weapons and caestus parry spam. And of course no fun invasions. Because of ganks there is only three ways to win
>mage
>faith
>BKGAhornetstab
No any reasons for cospaly because of 1vs3 or even 1vs5. Personally I hate main pvp area. Why after Pontiff? Why not NG+ settlement? If you wanna duel, you forced to skip best areas for dried finger
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I beat it, was happy with the ending I got, but when I started a new game I started feeling incredibly bored because it was just the same thing.
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>>341659386
>this
>fun
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>>341659061
>the only good weapons are regular shortswords which don't cost much to swing
Why is this bad now? I didn't see this much whining about the Saw weapons in BB or the Thrusting swords and Straight Swords in DS2, or the Katanas in DS1.
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>>341652713
I can tell you right now the ds2 dlc > ds3
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>>341651879
>DS1 being better than DS3
DS falls off barely 1/3 of the way into the game while dark souls 3 remains fresh for almost the entirety of it, excluding maybe the final areas like grand archives
stop this stale meme por favor
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>>341659580
nigga, DaS1 has tons more better weapons than Katanas.

for fuck's sake Lightning Zweihander makes you invincible.
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>>341659553
>this happens in Dark Souls 3 as well. You would have known if you had played it.
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>>341658495
If you expect to be blocking bosses with a med shield, you're retarded.

Shields are for not getting stunlocked by waves of fast enemies.
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>>341651031
This. Only PC autist are playing it since no Bb
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>>341659312
I don't even know what the hell you're talking about.
I've played every single one of these games and I wouldn't call the mechanics anymore "based on demon's souls" than they are based on any of the other games.
There wasn't much difference between raw movement and combat mechanics in DeS and DaS.
I mean maybe parry timings and yeah, the FP bar, but the FP bar I think was a concession made because there had to be a limit on weapon arts and having two separate resource meters for both weapon arts AND spells would be stupid.

The reason the mana bar was taken out after DeS is because healing items and mana items were so retardedly fast and unlimited so it broke the game if you had enough of them.
Same reason we got estus instead of grass.
Don't know why it took them until now to realize they could just make a separate estus flask for a mana bar, but eh.

And if you're gonna say having luck makes this game a carbon copy of DeS then you can leave.
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>>341659834
>DaS1 has tons more better weapons than Katanas.
Same for DS3.
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>>341659823
>Fully realized game>Game that just got released
That's not really impressive.
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>>341659409
>recommending fatroll McGee or "where the fuck do I buy spells" for a first playthrough experience
you're fucking sinister

Here's the official beginner guide:
1. fastroll
2. stay away from the catacombs
3. stop summoning you bitch, this is why you get invaded all day, just learn the fucking fights and enjoy the game
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>>341659831
DS3 is too linear, DS1 allows for more sequence-breaking and the like
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>>341659987

>Fully realized game

If only
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>>341659695
MAKE LOTHRIC GREAT AGAIN
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>>341657060
Pretty much how I felt, though I didn't summon for anything, I only really finished the game because it was "there".
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>>341660042
Dried Finger. If you're alone, only one invader can invade you after patch. Very interesting run. 90% twinks are god awful
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Is bloodborne still active? I never played dlc but I like online

>>341659987
no i mean ONLY the ds2 dlc is better than dark souls 3 as a whole
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>>341659831
Dark souls 3 becomes decent only halfway into the game. The first 5 areas are shit. Lothric castle, Irythill and Archdragon's Peak are god tier, the rest of the game is almost passable and nothing more.
Also
>Every enemy in DS3 ganks you and stunlocks you even in PVE
>The only build you'll ever make is a quality build, a luck build or a buffing build because of softcaps
>Online play sucks dick in every single aspect, even cooperation
>The game is one hour long if you guess where to go. Ain't even talking about speedruns My first playthrough was 4 hours long and I 100% the game except for covenant rewards. DS1 had way more content even if it was rushed at the end.
>DS3 remains fresh for all of its duration because it's a fucking short game
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>>341659040
>>341659061
Endurance is the only thing where I can make a difference versus other players who are as good as dodging as I. If you're some casual, you will just stand still and r1 trade with someone and if your numbers are higher you win, yay. If you're actually trying you will attempt baits, charges, running, dashes and rolling to stay unharmed while trying to get hits in. Since all attacks in the souls games can be dodged, this means the one who can move the longest wins, ergo endurance is one of the most important stats
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>>341659834
DS3 has a lot of good weapons. I'm digging the Glaive and the Caestus right now, and for the first time since DeS, Greataxes are all pretty fucking good.
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>>341660349
>My first playthrough was 4 hours long and I 100% the game except for covenant rewards.
Show achievements
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>>341660280
I played like that on my 2nd char, I got 2v1'd all the time and won a lot of them. Though I usually killed the first guy before the second found me, a straight on 2v1 didn't fair as well.
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>>341660318

Yes but do not expect good PVP. And if you go for chalice spelunking make sure you do it with another player.
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>>341660318
Because DS2 DLC is basically the meat of the game, before that the game was a lifeless husk. What I'm saying is that DS3 isn't as terrible as DS2 and BB were on vanilla.
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I love it, my controller broke and this is the first souls game I've even bothered playing with mouse and keyboard.
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>>341656165
>Basically, BB a best

kek
Nice no gaems plataform fggt
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>>341660497
100%ing the game means taking all the drops, killing all the enemies in every area at least once, unlocking all the secrets you could unlock in a first run and do every character quest and boss encounter.
Achievements require you to get to NG+3, considering them for a first run is fucking stupid.
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>>341660087
>go into the lower city and kill some demon with two swords
>go into a sewer and kill some vagina dragon
>shoot the well-endowed lady in anor londo and fight some snake-for-legs tranny
there's not much else, and while the ability to go and do the four mandatory bosses before gwyn in any order you choose is a nice feature, i don't feel that it's a great deal more enjoyable above the linear nature of the dark souls 3
>>341660349
>Every enemy in DS3 ganks you and stunlocks you even in PVE
yeah pretty much
>The only build you'll ever make is a quality build, a luck build or a buffing build because of softcaps
i run into a lot of those but there are a lot of peoplle who opt to try out their own builds
>Online play sucks dick in every single aspect, even cooperation
maybe
>DS3 remains fresh for all of its duration because it's a fucking short game
DS3 was my first souls game and i completed it in roughly 30 hours, taking the time to do all the optional shit
moving onto dark souls after that, it took me like 35 hours to finish
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>>341660681
BB wasn't terrible in vanilla at all, even if the best parts are clearly in the DLCs.
In DS2 the DLCs aren't even that great.
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>>341660835
No-no. You said
>My first playthrough was 4 hours long and I 100% the game except for covenant rewards.
Show achievements with timestamp
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>>341660349
>The game is one hour long if you guess where to go. Ain't even talking about speedruns My first playthrough was 4 hours long and I 100% the game

Just stop man.
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>>341659956
So let me summarize what you said:
>the only difference between ds3 and other souls games were the things it has in common with des
>ds3 is in no way more based on des than on any other souls game
Do you see it now anon?
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>>341660640
Will I find some co-op bros in the dlc areas?
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>>341650102
It was a very short game.
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Looking for some cool peeps to voice and coop DS2 SOTFS with
Pretty much just started DS2 after a long time of not playing DS1 so SL 44 atm
Add me if you're interested
steamcommunity.com/id/Biiox/
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Forced myself to play through it once because I couldn't refund it when I wanted to.

Promptly uninstalled and tossed it into the 'trash i regret' category I have on steam for shit games.
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>>341660960
30 hours is really not a long time for an action RPG's campaign. They count too much on the NG+ and multiplayer aspect without even bothering to make any of that good content.
NG+ sucks, period. No new things around besides rings. DS2 system was much better, I could play any boss any time without the chore of going thru the game again, and get additional rewards and new enemies. It made NG+ a choice instead of a "well I guess there's nothing else to do in the game, so I'm playing it another 2 hours in NG+ until I get bored and forget it even existed".
Multiplayer is just shit. I'm in Europe, why do I get paired with eastern Russians, Japanese, Australians and Americans? I should get paired with the western european area, from Portugal to Poland, but that shit never fucking happens.
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>>341661098

Wouldn't that be impossible because of the achievements for all the different endings? You would have to play the game through three times.
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>>341661223

A lot especially 11:00 PM UTC. I think people are fucking around and still awake but this is during morning around my time.
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>>341661098
I didn't mention achievements, nigger. 100%ing a game is something that exists from a long fucking time, before they removed cheat codes from games and put achievements for limp dicked kids like you.
But you would know this if you were born before the year 2000, I guess you're not.
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>>341661540
>I'm in Europe, why do I get paired with eastern Russians, Japanese, Australians and Americans?
Dude, the system always work like this. In DeS, DS1/2, BB
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>>341661715
because your concept of a 100% is somehow above what is considered the norm for 100%ing a game now (platinum)
fuck off with your weak bait
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Focused on casualization just like bloodborne.
Easiest souls game to date.
Rolls cost almost no stamina and are the strongest rolls in any game.
Bosses are a joke and most rely on gimmicks
Just as linear as bloodborne, dancer/lothric feels like a last minute change.
Key to archives locked behind killing the 3 Lords has no reasoning behind it.
PvP balance a complete joke, invasions favor the host and poise doesn't exist. All 1v1 fights boils down to passive reactive play styles where whoever attacks first loses.
Reuses a lot of bloodborne assets and engine.
No replayability or variety compared to both das and das2.
Online community died faster than dark souls 2 did.
Pale soulless imitation of the first game, filled with references and memes from the first game. Even final boss is just das1 final boss.
Feels rushed and just a cash grab trying to bank on player nostalgia either than be good on its own merits

Without a doubt the worst souls game to date
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>>341661029
Sotfs made that game, period.
Before sotfs:
>what are these giant memories and why am I even in them?
>nashandra is evil? Ok sure whatever
>aldias keep? lol lmfao who even is aldia
After sotfs:
>Holy shit this aldia dude reached out to the fucking core of existense
>this nashandra was a piece of the abyss that was shattered like all these other queens? So is she related to manus? What are the implications of this?
>holy crap these giants memories make so much sense now and I cant believe there was so much backstory to this guy who was just wandering aimlessly through vellstads backyard
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>>341661098
You're basically asking him the equivalent of proving he's a male human being by posting a picture of his penis with a message of your choice on it.
Are you so salty about life that you just won't believe someone's story? Or do you have to shitpost to feel better about wasting 60 bucks on a japanese game?
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>>341661875
I'm refering to the option of NOT getting paired with people from other continents that doesn't fucking work.
It's a feature I paid for, so I demand it, and I want it to work properly. Is that so strange?
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>>341661715
Okay, autist. You said you complete game for 4 hour. When you kill bosses you get boss achievements with timestamp. Show me your epic 4 hours first playthrough with ptoofs. Good luck with photoshop.
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First of all, the threads probably got the inevitable boot /vg/ all well discussed games get.

Second of all, 99% of the longevity of Souls games is PVP and alternate builds, and the PVP is shit in 3, and armor was gutted out entirely.

The lack of poise means armor doesn't fucking matter. Armor's useless-ness means there's zero armor diversity (fashion isnt armor diversity), which would usually change how you approach different builds. Lack of armor diversity means everyone runs lightweight squishy builds. Lightweight squishy builds means we get cancer one-shot metas, unstoppable combos (I heard they nerfed some but I haven't played in a bit) and no one has the defense to live through them. Strength weapons are king of reddit duels, since you can easily hyperarmor out-trade everything, they can't heal (strength weapons' only weakness), and you can finish them off with throwing daggers.

The lack of armor choice makes PVE fucking boring too. This isn't fucking bloodborne, yet the devs treated this game like bloodborne in regards to armor/defense.
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>>341662054
He's just calling bs on some guy who thinks hes hot shit on a wapaneez imageboard
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>heavy armor useless
>heavy weapons niche
>magic/miracles were useless for 2/3 the game's lifetime (finally good again)
>no poise
>R1 spam encouraged
>Vit is a useless stat
>Straightswords, rapiers, washing poles, spears are easy to use with no drawbacks
>no poise
>covenants are mostly generic; dorkmoons, blue sents, watchdogs don't work properly
>rehashing armors, weapons, enemies, and even entire fucking areas
>too much fanservice, not enough unique NPCs
>no poise
>Bloodborne-reject enemies or straight rehashes forcing you to use quick weapons and light armor
>because no poise
>hyper armor is most shit thanks to it activating 60% into an animation
>weapon arts are almost never used outside of the spammable ones
>mostly easy gimmick bosses for 75% of your playthrough
>NO POISE
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>>341662195
How old are you? Really? This is your first game?
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>>341658209
>>341659227
>I feel like the game has better atmosphere if you play offline
This
It's heart-pounding to experience your first invasion in an unknown area, but it's not worth having the world splattered with messages telling you every little detail ahead of time.

There are mimic chests in these games, right?
If you play online every mimic chest will have 5 bloodstains surrounding them and 3 messages, completely spoiling the surprise.
I was so disappointed when, a month after DaS3 was released, the Catacombs had every single trap encircled with glowing orange messages going "HEY BRO THERE'S A TRAP HERE."
Imagine if an I-Spy or Where's Waldo puzzle had the solution circled in big red marker on every page. There's no more tension or effort required.

People say don't read guides because it spoils the experience of accomplishing and discovering things yourself, and the online messages and bloodstains are miniature in-game guides.
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>>341662242
You realize all bosses speed run takes an hour, it's not far fetched to believe someone best all bosses in 4 hours.
You can stop being a from drone
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>>341661964
>implying bloodborne isnt the hardest game in the saga

orphan says hi
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DkS1 had the most in-depth pvp due to unintended mechanics and tech
Bloodborne had the best atmosphere, runner up DeS
DkS2 had the most content
DkS 3 has nothing that really stands out
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So when people in /v/ say that Straight Swords are the only good weapons in this game, does that mean they are shitty at the game so they have to use weapons like that to be successful?
People from /v/ are usually shitty at games.
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>>341651879
DS>BB>DeS>DS3>DS2
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>>341662498
It sure as hell seems that way.
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>>341662349
>mostly easy gimmick bosses

People keep saying this, but I found most of the bosses harder than the ones in Dark Souls 1. Wolnir and Yhorm are the only real gimmicks I can think of.
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>>341662463
Orphan can be chain backstabbed in phase 2.
You're better off using depth 5 phtu descendant as an example.
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>>341661964
Bloodborne chalices alone hold more variety in bosses than the entirety of DS3. Its also has harder bosses than any of the other Soul games. Please kill yourself.
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>>341662443
>speed run
>first playthrough
Anon pls
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It's shit.

It only really excels at not being as shit as Dark Souls 2
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>>341662654
Great wood, wyvern.
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>>341661964
>Focused on casualization just like Bloodborne
Didn't play bloodborne, but 90% of the enemies in this game are parriable and you can backstab them to infinity. It's boiled down to a dodging shitfest where all you have to do is time your attack, there is no clever build planning nor any smart strats to make out
>Easiest souls game to date
Again, didn't play Demon's and Bloodborne, but It's fairly easier than both DS1 and DS2
>Bosses are a joke and most rely on gimmicks
Not entirely true, but you can parry the only 2 bosses that would otherwise be fun to play against.
>Linear
Linear as fuck
>Key to archives
Just let me have fun and go where I want to go when I please. RPGs should let you go into overleveled areas no matter what.
>PVP is a joke
Agreed
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>>341661905
>Calls finishing a game "platinum"
GTFO sonygger. Go masturbate on the new God Of War or some shit.
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>>341662696
Only shitters chain backstab Orphan. You can cheese cursed CD too if we talk about mlg_pro style
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>>341650102

Completed it 3 times. The game is garbage.

It aimed to fix the flaws of the second game, but managed to fuck up the essential things.

>Same story for the 3rd time. Miyazaki confirmed for a talent-less hack
>Gray, everything is gray
>Bloodborn looking. Little inspiration in the world. Unlike the first game.
>The story goes nowhere. It doesn't sum up anything. It's vague and only creates more questions than answers.
>While the lore and storytelling is good, it leaves too much out for speculation, where it leaves these huge gaps that can easily be misinterpreted.
>Someone did an hour and a half long video on how things actually progress in the Souls universe
>It shows how easy it is to misinterpret almost everything in the game
>That points to Miyazaki being a fucking hack when it comes to story writing

The only good thing about the game was its bosses.

A lot of you people like to shit on DaS2. I didn't like it nearly as much as DaS1, but it was a good game with a good atmosphere. Especially the Majula music.
Yes, I know that it was remade into a mess because the original concept didn't work out. Yes, I know that the story made too little sense before the DLC. However, it felt like a progression in story in the scope of the DaS world.

However, the horrible part was that it introduced the LEL CYCLES thing. Which is why DaS3 suffers. It leads to lack of creativity and lack of closure because of kek you cannot do anything against cycles. So all your progress through the 3 games feels completely invalidated.

There shouldn't have been any other DaS game outside of the 1st one. I feel like it wrapped enough things up in the ending to leave it as it is.

I also liked DaS2 PVP the best. And the combat was nicer due to the variety of weapons and move sets.

Also, the video I'm talking about, if anyone's interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwjUe4B_g7M

I don't agree with some of the things. But when you think about it, his points do make sense.
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>>341662281
My point wasn't that I'm hot shit. My point was that the game is fucking easy and linear, and half of the people in this thread say the same fucking thing.
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>>341662726
Outside of depth 5 phtu. What hard bosses? I understand difficulty is subjective and player experiences different, but mind you, I sl1 ever soul game and sl4 bb. I disagree with the notion that bb has harder bosses than all the other games. Lud and zallen, are harder than all of bb bosses.
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>>341662349
>magic/miracles were useless for 2/3 the game's lifetime (finally good again)
What did they do
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>>341662654
I actually think the boss roster is the most diverse one since DeS while still having a lot of good fights.
Some bosses are tough or easy with certain builds, and I appreciated that.
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>>341663043
Next you'll say only shitters use weapons. There is no use discussing anything with you.
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>>341662843
>>341662654
Great wood is annoing at NG+2. And Wolnir is better on NG+ when he start casting shit. Litteraly RNG boss
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>>341662442
I think I opened more mimics than actual chests in this one, there were so fucking many. I just hit every single one regardless.
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>>341663160
Adjusted a lot of shitty spells to have better casting speed and projectile speed. It's actually pretty feasible to make a pure FAI caster now.
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>>341663069
Your opinion is wrong.
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>>341659695
cinematic af
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>>341663606
Your fashion is just as garbage as the game itself
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>>341663069
>Bloodborn looking. Little inspiration in the world. Unlike the first game.
Oh please, half the shit in the first game is straight out of D&D.
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>>341663289
Weapons =/= cheese tactic
If you so edgy, better to say there is no hard bosses in any From games ever. You EZ mod everything. You can cheese everything. Epic?
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>>341663556
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>>341663129
Sure you have
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>>341663315
>You can't break the chests like in DS2
>There is no point in not hitting a chest
>After the first hour of the game you realize it and no mimic ever tricked you again
>There is an item you can buy for cheap and makes mimics drop their item and prevents them from attacking you
Why are mimics even in the game then. Their whole purpose is defeated by so many game mechanics that make them harmless.
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>>341663556
>Literally says "your opinion is wrong"
>Doesn't explain why
You're the wisest wizard cat who ever lived, nigger
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>>341662253
They are altering poise. You can escape many combos now (like spin to winning with twinweapons/halberds). They also made casters more viable, buffed weak weapons (try drakeblood gs now) and nerfed the r1 cancer (spamming r1 estoc now comes with increased stamina consumption with each swing). Strenght weapons are still the most powerful only competed by the other bs weapons (gotthard, washing pole, ubadachi&onikiri, glaives and the occasional boss weapon) but remember you can always parry that guy who spams his fume ultra memrsword r1 roll attack.

Armor works in a very unrefined way. I feel like theres a couple of steps. First theres the 30% carry load squish armor that takes lets say 500 damage from a certai weapon (just an example, but relates to reality), you wont notice a difference in damage reduction until your armor meets a certain treshold of protection, lets say 50% carry load and you now only take 400 damage. Then its like before where you wont notice any increased protection until you hit the next treshold where that same attack does only 300 damage.

I dont have the exact values but where my astora gs hits almost 700 on some firekeeper robed character, it hits 300 on a haveldude.

And lets not forget how ridiculous all the pvp was in soulsgames right after release (broken straightsword infinite stabkills, infinite partizankills and so on...)
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Everyone is getting tired of the souls formula
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>>341663715
You're really are just a blind fanboy. You don't even know what is cheese and what is not. It's always the same reply too. Someone finds a boss easy and some ass ravaged from drone shitposts in response
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>>341660203
8/10 looks breddy royal
>>341661598
eh/10 original atleast?

now r8 me
>>341663606
6/10 too edgy
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