MOTION CONTROLS WAS A MISTAKE
>>341640264
No shit. That game sucked.
>>341640264
Motion controls were the least of Skyward Sword's problems.
i actually have this game coming in tomorrow along with one of those wiimotes that have wii motion+ built in.
how bad is it?
>>341641706
It was one of the major problems. Not because the controls doesn't just werk like most people say, but because everything was shoehorned to motion controls and doesn't really contribute at gameplay mechanics at all. So, they wasted time making swimming work with motion controls instead of making a clever world design, something that SS really needs.
>>341641890
Good for one run, has some good parts here and there but overall, is just a mediocre game.
I always new v was filled with fatties and retards.
Pic should have been the kinect
>>341640264
still waiting for a wiiu/nx remake a la twilight princess, no way i'm playing another zelda with motion controls after tp.
>>341642110
I agree. I found that while the motion controls didn't RUIN the game, they certainly didn't do anything for it either and it would have been better if they hadn't designed so much of the game around motion.
The real issues with the game were repetition and interruption. If those two things had been avoided, it would have been great, despite motion controls.
>>341641890
/v/ overreacts all the time. It's better than Majoras Mask
>>341640264
Had the best boss in the series though
>>341642750
Which one? There were quite a few top tier bosses
>>341642676
>the worst console Zelda is better than the beat console Zelda
If you're going to bait make it believable anon
>>341642830
>>341642676
too obvious
>>341640264
>I'm expected to move my fat arms
>i didn't set it up correctly but it's the game's fault I'm retarded
This game is like natural selection, those who dislike are unfit to reproduce
>>341642996
Best boss and best dungeon.
One of the few reasons why SS isn't completely irredeemable.
>>341642965
>falling for le ben drowned and game grumps memes
>>341643016
I'm right through, you fags only like MM because of your retarded headcanons. ss has a good plot on its own and is much better in every regard
>>341643106
Hi bait
Honestly I liked the motion controls and I think it's better game than TP and WW
>>341643016
It is obvious
SS>other zeldas>>>>>>a steaming pile of shit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>zelda cdi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Majora's Mask
>>341643479
Says the person who fell for the ben drowned meme. Majora's Mask deserved the shit it got at launch and much more
>>341643660
The only correct list.
>>341643790
Hi bait
>>341643636
The only correct post in this thread. TP and WW had combat riddled with QTEs
>>341644025
Nice rebuttal fag. You can't even defend MM because it is terrible as both a Zelda and as a video game. The remake captured it's true quality as irredeemable garbage really well
>>341643660
This post restored my faith in neo-/v/
>>341644056
Fucking this. I don't get why /v/ collectively fellates tp for its combat when it's literally "press x to win"
>>341643224
>game grumps memes
you telling me Aron likes MM? it suffers from the issues he had in OoT
Personally MM is my favorite due to the fun side quests with the time mechanics
>>341644243
Hi bait
>>341640264
Literally the best part of the game. It's the only reason why I even like it.
I liked everything about this game except for the motion controls.
I think maybe my controller was fucked up though. It was constantly drifting and I'd have to open the map to re-align every 5 minutes.
>In development for five years
>Has the budget and talent of a mainline entry in a major videogame companies' flagship franchise.
>Had a controller accessory built specifically for it for the sole purpose of making the motion controls better.
>The only use for motion controls that couldn't have been done comfortably with buttons/a stick is the swordplay. The rest is banal shit like tilting the remote to steer the bird/swim, or jerking the remote to climb faster.
>Even then the swordplay actively makes the combat worse than other Zeldas, because the system is so shallow the only enemies the developers could make are simon says puzzles.
>The game needs a dedicated button and option in the pause menu dedicated to fixing the controls in case they fuck up.
>Probably the most consistent motion controls ever made, but they still aren't perfect. Everybody would lynch a non-motion control game where the game occasionally misreads your presses, this shouldn't be any different
This is the most definitive argument against motion controls I can think of.
>>341640264
>pic unrelated
>>341642110
The problem is that SS was a game literally about the controller. When you're playing a game, the controller should just be the medium you use to interact with the game world; you shouldn't be consciously thinking about it. With SS, literally everything in the game forced you to remember the piece of plastic in your hands. You can never get immersed because every few seconds there's a blatant reminder that you're waggling around a toy irl. You're constantly forced to acknowledge the controller instead of just forgetting about it like what naturally happens with most games. There's even a giant overlay of the controller on the screen by default.
That combined with the excessive handholding and shallow, linear world design basically turned SS into a 30 hour-long game of Simon Says, which is pretty much the opposite of what people want from a Zelda game.
>>341640264
I played it in an emulator, so I enjoyed use the mouse
I don't mind the motion controls. I mind that I have to use batteries with this thing.
*were
>>341645713
>Even then the swordplay actively makes the combat worse than other Zeldas, because the system is so shallow the only enemies the developers could make are simon says puzzles.
>he never used the items
>he thinks waiting for the enemy to turn around is better than ss's combat
Are you retarded? The combat was definitely way better than oot, tp and ww. Also implying the other games didn't suffer with worse problems
>Skulltulas in ss were more fun to fight than in oot and tp
>tp ganondorf fight filled with QTEs
>scervo>all enemies from oot
>Bosses in tp were style without substance
>oot enemies were boring to fight because you had to wait for them to reveal their weakness all the time
>ww didn't improve on oot's combat
If anything ss had the best combat in the series
>>341640264
sorry, but you are objectively wrong, you motion autistic fuck!
source:
http://www.zeldainformer.com/articles/zelda-fan-survey-2014-results-more-older-than-younger-fans-interesting-fan
>>341646202
>reaching that hard
Am I the only one that actually enjoyed feeling like I was killing the enemies. I felt more immersed than I ever did with the wagglan in tp
>>341646852
Wait until BotW comes out. Hipsters will shit on that and praise ss
>>341646852
>"other"
What the fuck could 7% think of to pick that?
>>341646202
>deluding yourself this much
>not changing the interface
>buzzwords
I always knew those who hated ss were retards
>>341642676
i liked skyward sword and all but nah bro
nah
>>341646323
You can turn off the sound on the wiimote if fi really annoys you that much
>>341647835
Fi doesn't annoy me, it's the battery draining.
>>341647808
True, anything is better than Majoras Mask so it's not that much of an achievement
>>341647928
Don't buy cheap batteries. I went through the game without changing mine
>>341642965
>calling worst console zelda the best console zelda
>calling best console zelda worst console zelda
Are there any fans more retarded than mm's?
>Fedora's Mask is now considered a good game on /v/
>>341647374
maybe the LOVED them? Or maybe the HATED them? the later could be the source for all the minority of vocal, whiny motion control hating bitches on the internet, people who are against innovation, are to fat and sick to move their goddam arms and generely don't like to do a bit of extra work to get a better gaming experience. fuck those people!
If you can't even get yourself to adapt to something so fundamentally easy as using controllers with motion controls, then you should quit gaming forever.
Take a lock at this and apologize.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_aGjL1bwN0
>>341648358
All because of one shitty creepypasta. They should learn a game is bad if you have to make shit up to make it "good"
>>341648442
Damn you are a prissy faggot.
>>341648442
Here's your (you)
Sorry you lack reading comprehension and a brain
>>341646852
2/10, you should have waited until someone asked where the poll came from, THEN posted the link.
>>341648442
Told you ss haters were screaming fags
So if BotW is apparently doing away with motion controlled swordplay, why is Link still right handed?
No they were not, you fucking retard with all the hand-eye coordination of a penguin. Skyward Sword has the best combat in Zelda game history, and the best enemy and combat design to go with it.
The biggest shame about Breath of the Wild is that the combat will be dumbed down and brainless in it; just like in every Zelda game other than Skyward Sword.
>>341648863
>And the best enemy and combat design to go with it.
It's fucking simon says
>>341646202
You have autism.
>>341648863
Fucking this. If it goes back to tp style combat it'll be a step backwards for the series. Why did Nintendo listen to the retards?
>>341640264
it's not over yet
>>341649016
Well memed friendo :^)
>>341648959
>simon says
>you keep using that word
And how is that worse than the combat in the rest of the series? Plus it implies you mimic what the enemy does which is the opposite of what actually happens
>>341640264
*were
>>341648959
Name a Zelda with better combat
>>341648863
THE TRUTH!
>>341648863
It's a lost cause arguing this on /v/. It's filled with fat NEETs who hate any sort of physical activity
>>341649349
Zelda II
>>341649208
>And how is that worse than the combat in the rest of the series?
How is simon says an improvement? It makes every enemy a banal "puzzle" that's boring to fight after the firs time you fight it. It's absolutely the wrong direction to take a combat system that hasn't meaningfully improved since the N64.
>>341648959
I have never played SS: the post
>>341649635
>literal jrpg has best combat
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>341649708
>he thinks the n64 combat is good
>he likes waiting for skulltulas to turn around
>he thinks mashing buttons is more intuitive
>using buzzwords without elaborating
Kill yourself before you breed
>>341640264
>>341649635
You think the game with the worst combat is better than the game with the best combat. Do you have brain damage?
>>341640264
Skyward Sword's controls just didn't work.
>>341650423
More like you sucked at them but you don't want to admit that your coordination is shit
>>341650629
The wiis motion games were all good. It was the kinect and playstation move that had the shitty games
