You didn't make her take the eyes, did you /v/?
>>341634545
Yes.
It's the only ending that brings back the sun.
>>341634545
>not being comfy together with your keeperfu as the flame fades
>linking a shitty faded flame
Is having sight in DaS a good thing or a bad thing?
You know, is it "Blind to evil" or a "See the truth" kind of deal.
'Cause that's the question you need to answer to determine whether giving the Fire Keeper's eyes was the right choice.
>>341634545
Who made such a terrible drawing of my waifu?????
>>341635669
What do you expect from a Souls game? You should be so glad you're waifu doesn't die in a questline.
>>341635852
>doesn't die
>>341635852
>that moment when this is exactly what happens
>>341634545
Of course I did, the age of fire has been going on for too long. Bring on the age of dark and let the cycle commence.
>>341634975
It's completely irrelevant to anything besides Fire Keepers.
Additionally, one ending isn't inherently more good or evil than the other
Because not giving her the eyes is propaganda by the Gods.
>>341635852Anri doesn't die though, or at least she / he gets revived in the Hollow Lord ending.
>>341636027
Anri wasn't my waifu. Our marriage was the typical sword-through-the-face politcal kind.
>>341636272
Pretty much this. Except stealing the fire when betraying the fire keeper is pretty much the most evil ending.
>>341634545
I gave her the eyes so I can step on her head :3
>>341634545
>Give her the eyes
>Force her to percieve eldritch abominations
>Kill her
>Make her do it again
>>341634545
I preferred the hollow ending.
Endings in Dark Souls always kind of suck though.
>>341636361
Sometimes it's just a generic (kinda blue-ish?) hollow kneeling, not sure why that changes
>>341636517
Do not bully the Firekeeper.
>>341636517
>percieve eldritch abominations
You have a very active imagination. Or bad reading comprehension.
Why couldn't have married Yuria instead?
What's the point of the ending where you give her the eyes, have her put out the flame, kill her and then kindle the flame? WHy not just kindle the flame?
>>341636986
Because shes a skeleton on the inside.
>>341636991
im not exactly sure but this is how I think it goes
kindling flame: age of fire resets, but is weak as fuck.
maiden gets fire: fire is gone from world but held on by maiden
killing maiden: same thing but you have fire instead
dark lord: ALL fire is gone from everywhere, the cycle finally continues onto age of dark and mankind reigns supreme
>>341637081
So having sex with her would beboning?/
>>341636991
It's the Caim ending. You don't take the flame for anyone but yourself.
>>341634545
Yeah, and I also ground her face into paste with my boot. Feels good, man.
>>341636991
That's the most incomprehensible ending of the bunch. One anon theorized it's the coward's ending where you pussy out at the very last moment and want to keep the Flame lit instead (without it succeeding anymore), thus you have the narrator shittalking your character's incompetence.
>>341636919
All these years later, Maiden is still the best.
>>341636986
Non royalty only gets to be mistresses.
>>341636361
>gundyr scrounging all that puss up
god bless him
>>341634545
Why does Miazaki hate closure?
All the endings are shit and don't lead anywhere
>link the fire and fuck the world over again
>don't link it and still fuck it over
>Lord of hollows ending is anything more then serpent propaganda
If he is really gonna feed us that "heat death of the univers" up to your oven interpolation shit with the ending at least let me kill Kaath and Framt so i can end it all with peace of mind
>>341636408
I think sword through head implies death, sure he/she gets resurrected later if you swing that way
>>341638395
the fuck does death bother the undead?
>>341636991
I'd consider the betrayal ending to be the most mysterious one of all since it's not clear what exactly the Ashen One intends to do by reaching for the clutched First Flame, but I highly doubt it's to reklindle it. It seems clear that the Ashen One is motivated purely by greed, and such an act marks the ending out as the most evil.
>>341638681
It doesn't, that's why Anri comes back in the Dark Lord ending.
>>341638393
>don't link it and still fuck it over
The ending is not just a matter of not linking the fire. It's extinguishing the First Flame entirely, an act that only a Fire Keeper can perform, putting the world out of its constant state of misery that not even linking can fix anymore. And it's not just end of everything because a very important part of the ending is that the Fire Keeper has visions of a whole new world eventually being born again, a sense of hope that things will get better.
It's excellent closure for Dark Souls as a whole.
What did he do again?
>>341640068
I still don't buy this
It' sounds nice and but that would be to simple to be true.
We already saw what not having fire in the world does to it.
It's basically just letting the abyss take over.
And i know the firekeeper tells you about the vision but god knows how long before that set's in or if it's even true at all.
What i want is a true solution
Something like what Aldia was talking about
A true escape form the cycle, not just to start a new age of fire staving of the dark again for a little while
>>341640691
He loved the booty too much.
>>341636919
Why is Doll so short? Doll is toll!
>Be the pawn of the two primordial shot heads again endings
>Or hold hands with a cute girl by taking her purity.
Why on Earth would you not give her eyes.
>>341641332
Who can blame him?
>>341640691
everything wrong
>>341641838
Go back to being an easy boss, Vordt
I give her the eyes because I prefer the alternate Firelink music
>>341641139
But one thing to remember, as per the opening monologue of Dark Souls, is that the First Flame is what causes the miserable Dark to exist. Therefore, when the First Flame is destroyed entirely, Dark (capital D) ceases to exist, as well. We may see the world go dark (lowercase d), but what's really happening is that the world is returning to a purgatory-like Age of Ancients, a state of nothingness until new life is born again. And even the nothingness is not that bad since you still have your waifu with you.
I also don't necessarily think that the new life will be in the form of another First Flame and the Dark that comes with it. It may be something entirely different. And even if it's another First Flame, it's better to have that in its new and healthy form instead of being old and worn out.
>>341635852
Depends if you do the "secret" ending and kill the fire keeper
>>341643251
this
This music is so much better
>>341638393
Not linking is closure. Every other ending only delays the inevitable, which is the first flame fading and the world going dark. By giving the firekeeper the flame you put the currently dying world out if its misery and bring hope for a new one.
>>341634626
It puts a permanent end to everything mate.
Which is still the best ending.
>>341644556
I just mean if you don't go on to New Game+, it gets rid of the angry eclipse sun.
>>341644556
No it doesn't, it's highly implied a new fire will eventually be born.
You're basically sending the world into a long, well-deserved sleep instead of force-feeding it coffee.
>>341644752
>You're basically sending the world into a long, well-deserved sleep instead of force-feeding it coffee.
That's... a surprisingly good anology.
So if Yuria and the Sable Church of Londor are followers of Kaathe, does that mean the dark lord ending of DS1 is canon? That would mean that Yuria is basically on the same side as the Darkwraiths? Are the Darkwraiths servants of the church, implied by the Londor spell you find in Farron close by where the Londor pale shade invades you? Or are they just scrubs that Kaathe abandoned? Does the Lord of Hollows ending entail that they world is going to swept up by the Abyss? And is the Deep the same as the Abyss, or is it some other realm entirely? Are the Deep worshippers essentially on the same side of the Sable church?
Fuck.
>>341641805
>>341645096
It's like TES' Dragonbreak. All endings are canon.
>>341640691
Because he was to savage
so will the DLC add a new ending(s)?
>>341645964
I want an ending where you get hammered on Siegbräu with Siegward and Greirat.
>>341645964
There better be an Aldia ending
>>341645096
Pretty certain that both endings of DaS1 remain open to being the canon one. Even in the Dark Lord ending, the First Flame still exists in the Age of Dark and can be relit, which would cause the Chosen Undead's empire to crumble and set Kaathe back to making plans to start another Age of Dark.
Both the Darkwraiths and the Sable Church of Londor were conceived by Kaathe, but it's up in the air as to whether or not they work together. It can very well be that the Darkwraiths were just dumped by Kaathe because he no longer considered them useful in light of his newer strategy. I don't think it really matters, either way.
The Lord of Hollows ending is just the Dark Lord ending redux as the beginning of another Age of Dark with you as the ruling tyrant of a miserable world. What makes it different is that you absorb the First Flame unto yourself, making it that much harder for the Age of Dark to be brought to an end. It should still be doable, though, provided that a Lord of Cinder candidate can kill you, first.
Though the Deep has common elements to the Dark, it's ambiguous as to whether or not its the same thing. In any case, it's pretty clear that the followers of Londor and the followers of the Deep are completely separate factions. I don't think they'd work together under ordinary circumstances.
>>341647328
if there's one fucking character who should have returned it's aldia
instead we get andre just because
>>341634545
Everything has to end some time, anon.
>>341644721
going to ng+ gets rid of the eclipse, its not dependent on an ending
where the FUCK is the dlc for this game
Course I did.
Then I made her put out the flame. Then I killed her.
God damn cycle needs to stop one way or another.
>>341634545
She wasn't ready for the succ
>>341650119
Delete this.
>>341636919
Still mad that Priscilla was cut as level up Maiden in DS ;-;
>>341650119
That's one thing i didn't like with that ending. There's clearly an emotional violence on display that wasn't intended as far as I'm concerned. I wanted things to end, because as far s I can say that's the only way for the firekeeper to finally be granted death. But there was no hatred or contempt, just pity.
The way things enfold though, there's a brutality, a contempt to it, that frames things quite differently.
>>341651517
I still think this and the no warp for most of the game is the best thing that happened to it. And one of the reasons why I much prefer it to 2 and 3. Especially 3 and all its shortcuts.
>>341651906
Up yours.
>>341648906
>Give firekeeper her eyes
>Cuddle with her in the dark until a new flame awakens
So, this is the best ending, right?
>>341634545
Sure did, because I felt no attachment to her at all. DS3 firekeeper is such a poor attempt at capturing Doll and Maiden in Black.
>>341652472
>it could be literal millions of years and you have thousands of abyss tentacles constantly prodding your holes
>>341652809
Dark Firelink wasn't fucked over with Abyss shit, it was just dark.
>>341637081
we're all a skeleton on the inside m8
>>341652912
you don't know what else could be there though
>>341634545
"Ashen One, can you hear my voice?"
Best ending.
>>341652912
>Inedex Gundyr clearly has abyss shit inside him the first time you fight him
I don't know man
I had to.
Name one thing worth saving. No advances have been made, the world has just gotten steadily worse and worse. The world died at the end of Gwyn's age, we just kept it on life support as a vegetable.
I mean fuck, are there even any honest to god fucking humans when the ashen one wakes? I think everyone's a hollow, an undead or an unkindled. Who is there to even save?
It really hits me when she says "Forgive me sister. may the flames guide thy way."
What the fuck happened?
>>341653427
incest
>>341636986
She wasn't too keen on getting impaled.
>>341653194
That's in the false Firelink, not the real one past Oceiros.
>>341649895
Wake me up when this snoozefest gets DLC. Fucking boring ass game.
>>341649895
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjjVJbHD7D4
I'm still waiting for an answer to this shit.
>that sad tone she has
>tfw I don't want to make her sad anymore
My heart sank as soon as the music change.
>>341653862
>false Firelink
Not this shit again
>tfw getting female Anri to trust you just so you kill her later like a pig in a dark ritual
Feels bad man. She was too pure and naive.
But at least best girl didnt need to die for any of the endings.
>>341653862
Isn't it more like the future of the Firelink Shrine? seems more accurate.
the way she says "a world without fire" and her voice cracks a little.
Goddamn that's some good voice acting
>>341654528
Fucking everything has a good voice.
>The jailers and that creepy laugh they make after chasing you
>The mocking laugh or saying "I'll cleanse the bastard's curse."
>Lothric's dialogue
And so much more.
>>341653862
Firelink past Oceiros is in the past. It's still the "real" one, just in the past.
>>341654953
>the jailers laugh
I love this so much
>>341654485
Oh god Kharla made my dick so fucking hard every time she spoke
I wasn't even a magicfag but i bought all her stuff anyway just to get all her dialog
Truly the first Dark souls character i have wanted to fuck
>>341655105
I'm excited for all the new monsters and bosses in the DLC. I just want to see how creepier it can get.
>>341652202
Hey, I like Priscilla. Just not as a Firekeeper. I just don't much like the idea f a firekeeper being anything bu someone that tends to the fire's very existence.
I much prefer the idea that you're the one throwing things into the fire to give yourself power - in double-edged bonfire of vanity if you will - to the idea of a magic maiden that has to act as a mediator to infuse that power into you.
Thematically I find the first proposition stronger.
>>341655737
Yeah, that's fair enough.
>>341644556
That's the Make Londor Great Again ending, in which light and dark are infused into the PC, thus ending the cycle.
>>341655145
Her dialogue really appeases my hot teacher fetish
The true ending is dlc only
We time travel again but this time we go back to the war with dragons and kill gwyn and dragons and the lords so the age of fire never begins and we progress to modern earth
>>341636696
it's when you buy anri's armour
>>341654953
DaS2:SotFS's Vendrick and Aldia were also fantastic. Absolutely my favorite characters in the series.
>Seeker of fire, coveter of the throne.
>Seeker of fire, conqueror of Dark.
>Many monarchs have come and gone. One drowned in poison, another succumbed to flame. Still another slumbers in a realm of ice. Not one of them stood here, as you do now. You, conqueror of adversities. Give us your answer.
>>341656290
OH GOD ANON STOP
>>341655060
Yeah I was actually just reading about that, but shit makes no sense.
Was she just sleeping when you get into the room?
Also stabbing her on the face doesnt kill her for good?
Though it could always be someone else just wearing her armor.
>>341655145
Yeah I felt like she truly cared about the Ashen One.
She even reads the pyromancy tomes because he insisted.
And the way she is willing to take responsability for her student acts is so cute.
>>341636696
on my ending i was wearing full EKS
and the supposed anri character was naked
I'm I the only one here confused as fuck about the DaS games lore? Does it even relate to any reality at all or is all fictional? Please help guys I want in the games but I can't if I'm playing a world I don't understand
Turn-off-the-lights ending is best ending
>>341636986
>>341637420
What she look like under the mask?
>>341656795
>>Many monarchs have come and gone. One drowned in poison, another succumbed to flame. Still another slumbers in a realm of ice. Not one of them stood here, as you do now. You, conqueror of adversities. Give us your answer.
That actually gave me chills. Gave me a sense of being a hero in a Greek tragedy.
>>341657328
It's a dark medieval fantasy, set in its own world with its own lore. What the fuck do you think? There's dragons, monsters and endless cycles of undead.
>>341657328
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9x_koRZ2bA
Here senpai, this'll clear things up.
>>341657328
>does it even relate to any reality at all or is all fictional
What the fuck are you retarded
Yes, all of the games are fucking fictional
There is a central mythology but it is only ever hinted at or else expressed in vague terms
Which part are you confused about?
>>341657328
How is it hard? Some Gandalf rip-off faggot found fire, rose up from hell and used Thunderbolt on Dragons. A woman being a woman is enticed by the flame tries to copy it and fails. A white dragon becomes a race traitor and Death is just doing his job.
>>341657763
And then the best part comes when you simply leave
>>341657794
>>341657791
>>341657778
Well someone replied here about the ending somewhat being related to the heat death of the universe which is an actual working theory in our current times no?
>>341658076
>There is no path. Beyond the scope of light, beyond the reach of Dark… what could possibly await us? And yet, we seek it, insatiably… Such is our fate.
Aldia was the best character to add to in the expansion.
>>341658256
The game has ideas that are kind of similar but it is in no way about the actual heat death of our universe
The games talk about a fire that is slowly dying even as people keep trying to feed it, but which cyclicly dies out and is reborn; there are some theories that our universe operates on a similar principle.
Watch the fucking opening videos, it's all explained
>>341658256
if you just watch the opening cinematic for dark souls 1 it'll setup the game world as for the heat death universe thing that sounds like a lot of over thinking and trying to be deep with metaphors
>>341658256
How is that relevant? Physics still exist in dark souls, so does blood, does that put it into the basis of reality? Something can exist in a fictional world and still be a real thing anon. Are longswords confusing to you?
>>341634545
Can someone edit the bowl of eggs pic and make it eyes instead? Would get a hearty chuckle out if it.
>>341657328
I wouldnt worry too much about being confused.
99% of the lore is never completely explained and NEVER will, as the creator himself said.
So any video or info you read about it are just theories by players.
Dark Souls series was literally made so the players themselves creates most of the lore.
For example: theres character A that you kill and get his equipment. His equipment description hints that he might be related to character B, but guess what? Besides that theres no proof, and all the info ingame is pretty vague.
So really, dont think too much about it. In the end no one is sure about anything.
>>341658519
>>341658556
>>341658662
>>341658725
I get it now, basically I should stop worrying about trying to make sense of everything and just enjoy and create my own experience...... just like real life. Thanks guys
>>341659254
That's pretty much exactly it anon. The world only doles out information about itself sparingly, there's a lot of "hidden" lore open to speculation. The way the game was made was to be shrouded in mystery, according to the creator. VaatiVidya is an example of someone who (whether or not he stole the "theories") compiled all the imformation he could till there was a semblance of a story.
>>341656290
Karla doesn't have enough art
>>341636361
How much vit did you have to justify that armor set?
>>341657680
spooky
>>341635852
except that you can smash her head with your foot
>>341641139
You're mistaking the dark with the abyss.
>>341655145
>he didn't want to fuck Ornifex
Truly the plebbest of plebs.
>>341649775
re read his post
>>341654983
But the maiden recognizes you 'in the past.'
Makes sense.
>>341665418
her ass was the only thing she had going for her desu
>>341662619
>>341636986
>>341666239
I would have sex with Yuria just to hear her talk dirty into my ear.
