Skyrim """""""""""""combat"""""""""""""
>>341633194
woaah that finisher at the end looked suhweeeeeet.
>>341633472
tell me about it lol. always get giddy when i see a finisher appear. especially dragon ones rawr! xd!
>>341633640
BTW are u getting the skyrim remastered?? Not sure if it is worth it as i have to pay again i guess (im on console).. we'll see.
>>341633737
Ye definitely getting it. Im on console too but the mod support alone is worth it man. all the possibilites we will have to improve our gameplay experience and new lands/quests... its like a new game all over again
>>341633839
omg lol i completely forgot about the mods.. derp. OK definitely preordering it now thanks for reminding me!
>this fucking thread
>>341632839
God, I hope they implement some sort of "punch out" style swordplay to the next game. Just pressing attack over and over is lame.
IS this the new """"""""""""""meme"""""""""""""?
:O
What's going on in here, guys?
>>341632839
>>341632883
>>341633194
Nice, this is such an improvement over Morrowind's lame skill-based combat.
Get "Requiem"
Problem solved.
Best RPG overhaul mod ever. Fucking fantastic. Skyrim is so much fun with it.
Anyone have any good sex mods I could combine with Requiem btw?
>>341634091
Just get Arkane games to make the combat similar to Dark Messiah.
Salutations my "Jive Brothers". It is I, To-... I mean DeTodd. So you think Mr. Howard is racist? Ha! I say, Ha! No. He's a "Real Original Gangster", if you catch my drift. I would say that he's the only game developer supporting the black community. So if anything, we should buy his game to show OUR support to him! Now my fellow "Niggas", go out and be sure to acquire Skyrim: Remastered through LEGAL means. I know we sometimes are a sticky-fingered bunch, eh? With that said, farewell! I'm off to play basketball or whatever our kind does.
It's really insane how fucking broken the sneak skill was.
>>341632839
>>341632883
>>341633194
How does a game that manages to be nothing more than painful mediocrity at best in every single facet of it design get such overwhelming praise?
>>341634310
go to lovers lab dummy
>>341633948
Ok i just pre ordered the game again lol. Been a while since i was last in Skyrim though hah been having a blast with Fallout4 currently the mod support on consoles is so cool man. Will be good to be back in the Nord lands! Die thalmors! lol
is it a goddamn 2011 or what?
>>341634580
Yeah tell me about it fallout 4 is great. Love hanging out with Piper in Diamond city - feel like a real detective helping out with cases. BTW you played Survival mode??
>>341634490
>I know I heard something
>>341634517
isn't that obvious? it's not.
>>341634712
Yeah tried out Survival mode and havent went off it since.. Really improves the game a lot and much better than fallout new vegas hardcore mode more like hard-snore mode rofl na was just not as fun as this one... what are your favourite bits of survival mode?
>>341634517
Their targeted demographic doesn't know any better.
>>341634517
Marketing
>>341634517
Normies only just started playing videogames because before Skyrim and casualization in general they didn't bother with stuff that would take actual brainpower or strategy to play.
>>341634517
Because it lets you wander around all over the place and you can yell at people which is really all gamers want anyway
>>341634189
It legitimately is an improvement. Morrowind's combat was so garbage even this is better.
>>341634517
It's the only one of its kind, at least nowadays.
>>341634816
"hard-snore" omg thanks i just spat out my coffee rofl.... something else to clean up :P. My favourite features are the save-on-sleeping only and diseases as they really make you take care of yourself and cant just be careless.... Anyway we're getting off track lets discuss skyrim again lol
>>341634603
Haven't you heard? Bethesda Softworks, LLC (R) are releasing The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Special Edition (TM) this year!
I am not associated with Bethesda Softworks (R), by the way!
>>341633472
>>341633640
>>341633737
>>341633839
>>341633948
>>341634580
>>341634712
>>341634816
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>>341634310
only good thing about requiem is the combat ai.
This thread makes me uncomfortable
>>341634517
The masses just need to waste a lot of time.
Also I don't think they explicitly fucked up the lore in Skyrim then again I've never bothered to check.
>>341632839
>>341634901
2/10
>>341635001
lol ye it is just easy to get caught up talking about another bethesda game as they are all such fun... my favourite guild in skyrim is the dark brotherhood as i get to just be plain evil and a deadly assassin... killing emperor omg sooo satsifying..!
>>341634490
kekkkkkkk
Just install the DUEL mod or that other combat mod
>>341635141
Ye you are completely correct there my friend (can i call you friend?? sorry if that is a bit too forward hah!) i also love the companions... being able to become a werewolf and tear my enemies to shreds! woah! So much fun
>>341635129
>let me walk through this here dark hallway to show off these ass physics because that's not a flawed plan at all
>>341635276
oh heh sure i was thinking of you as a friend anyway as we are getting on quite well lol. so sure thing, friend! :)
But yeah killing those Silver Hand is great especially after what they did to Kodlak..so sad but he is in peace now with the gods as i helped him.. but im more of a....heh...vampire guy!Dawnguard ftw!!!
>>341635131
>Gotta defend my favorite game from those nasty criticisms! Perfect in every way!
>>341632839
holy shit thats intense
>you will never play Oblivion for the first time again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_x-x0gawck
>>341635403
>>341635129
Skyrim threads are only good for lewd mod discussions.
>>341635120
>Also I don't think they explicitly fucked up the lore in Skyrim then again I've never bothered to check.
Does making Alduin a little bitch compared to his insanely overpowered lore counterpart count?
>>341635570
have you heard of the High Elves?
>>341635679
RAH
UNNNGGGGHHH
HPFOOM
>>341635131
Dude that's not bait. Morrowind is better than Skyrim in many, many, many ways but combat is not one of them.
>>341635570
I played for the first time a few months ago and it was shit. Took me like 15 minutes to walk from one town to another and a fucking mages guild sent me to pick some shitty mushrooms or some shit, dropped it instantly
Can you stop? How are people so bad at such a simple combat system?
Retarded 1 dagger rogue attacking people head on?
Two handed warrior not staggering enemies with power attacks?
Skyrim's combat is simple but it works and it's not only an action game but also stats based. What's also important is the diversity of gameplay Skyrim offers compared to any other game in this genre.
tl;dr Skyrim's combat it just works
>>341634490
>Must have been the wind
>>341635403
You didn't notice the balloon torpedo tits swaying up and down?
>>341635836
look at this nignog's shitty bait holy shi
>>341632839
the thing i do not understand is how the elder scrolls became such a normie franchise. same with fallout. how the fuck did they create such hype for it? i remember not even knowing what the elder scrolls was when oblivion came out. i just thought it looked like a really cool rpg. didn't know it was the fourth in a franchise.
no news on a new installment of these games for years, 2011 hits and e3 goes fucking nuts with it. normies everywhere are talking about how epic it is, but they don't even know anything about the franchise at all. are vikings and dragons all it takes?
>>341635823
>Took me like 15 minutes to walk from one town to another and a fucking mages guild sent me to pick some shitty mushrooms or some shit, dropped it instantly
He said Oblivion, retard.
>>341635934
What exactly am I baiting?
>>341635896
No it was too dark
>>341635896
Too big?
My biggest problem with Skyrim is that a lot of the town/ people you met and traveled to seemed to be implying some kind of quest for you to do, but when you tried digging around and talking to themor going to the wikithere was nothing to do. Also the dialogue options were really shitty and hampered roleplaying in a big way
>>341636270
>dialogue options
There basically were none outside of persuasion/intimidation. Dialogue was super linear, but I seem to remember it being really linear in Oblivion too so.
>>341635435
>>341635813
Morrowind's combat that takes attributes, skills, fatigue and weapon condition into account will always be superior to Skyirm's arcade swinging.
>>341635980
Because there were no games like these when they were released? Are you literally retarded?
Actually we still don't have a proper open-world game like any TES game.
>>341636000
uhh yeah I just googled it to be sure, that's what I played
>>341636000
Oblivion has this quest you fucking retard.
>>341636557
We've been over this. Melee combat in Morrowind was absolutely garbage. magic was alright.
>>341633194
>>341632883
>>341632839
So, this is the combat the shitposters keep screaming about how good it is in the Witcher threads?
>>341637071
I think Skyrim has more diverse and better combat. Witcher 3 has better combat mechanics.
>>341636906
Melee combat is absolute garbage in every one of them. Non-threatening health sponge fights or miss chance that goes away and becomes trivial 3-shot fights when you get a decent enchantment, either way.
>>341632839
Isn't souls combat the same as this?
>>341632839
OP here, here's the video I took the clips from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOooqBP0Wpg
>>341636201
No such thing
>>341637071
I think that even swinging a sword at the wall feels better and is more entertaining in Skyrim than Witcher
And having the option to play in so many different styles yea
>>341637623
Only if you lack taste.
>>341637623
Don't be crazy anon, too much can be too much, tits or ass.
>>341637394
at least learn how the combat system works in Skyrim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJEdi2WzkLc
>>341634517
The 360 brought in a wave of people that haven't experienced anything better.
>>341637325
>>341635129
>>341636201
I suggest putting a rope around your neck and doing a bit of swinging around.
Straight melee combat is bad in every tes game. It is ok and fun for few first hours, but it gets boring/repetitive very fast. Magic, Archery, Sneak builds are more fun.
>>341632839
It's almost like a single dagger isn't the best weapon for straight up face to face melee.
>>341634310
>Get "Requiem"
>Problem solved.
And many other problems created, because it doesn't work with any other mods.
>>341639496
That's not the problem.
>>341634916
This. Bethesda games are a genre unto themselves. There are no other highly-moddable RPGs like it.
>>341634448
Under-jelly'd toast.
>>341635836
Power attacks also break through an enemy's block.
>>341632839
More like Bethesda """""""""combat""""""". Not a single Bethesda game has good combat.
>>341637071
I don't know about the other two games, but Witcher 1 combat is definitely worse than Skyrim.
>Enjoyed playing as a spellsword in Oblivion
>Melee and physical defense by parrying incoming attacks
>Tossing spells at the enemy with my offhand
>Try to play like that in Skyrim
>Can only either spam attack with melee or spam spell
>Can no longer parry
>>341641232
>OH BOY THEY ARE BRING DUAL WIELDING TO SKYRIM
>ALL THESE OPTIONS
>Attack with left
>Attack with right
>Attack with both
>No defensive ability whatsoever
>No parry, riposte, counterattack
>Circlestrafe with movement keys and mindless mash attack buttons until you win or have to eat
is this 2011? what's your point
>>341641393
I know this is because console controllers don't have enough buttons, but they could have given you a lesser power you could use with the shout key to make you parry while holding a weapon or spell in your left hand. Of course, like most problems in Bethesda games, there's a mod to fix this issue.
It's mind-boggling how they've made so much money with combat that's nearly 25 years old at this point, from a completely dead genre, and all it took was making games 3D and as casual as possible.
>Start up Skyrim for the first time
>Decide to play as a sneaky Argonian wielding mainly a bow and a sword for melee encounters
>Realise fairly quickly that bow + stealth was easy-mode and ridiculously OP
I took down trolls just after first arriving at Whiterun, I think I was just past level 10, by jumping onto a formation of rocks the trolls couldn't get to and proceeded to wail a few of them with arrows while getting the occaisonal crit in because the trolls forgot I was there and went back into stealth mode. Dungeons were a piece of piss to stealth as well, even when there were groups of enemies. Having companions actually made the game harder.
>>341632839
This is why I don't play Skyrim at anything harder than the easiest mode.
>want to roleplay as x
>no you are the dragonborn
>no you cant kill this npc
this game is so shit
>>341632839
>>341632883
>>341633194
>playing in first person for anything else than archery
I'll never understand
Fights can look pretty realitic and nice if you're in third person view and use block a lot
If you don't, it just looks like random autistic weapon swinging
>>341642367
It is a samefag bait.
>>341643873
Just like (You).
>>341638206
>a sixteen minute video to explain "click on it until it dies"
How do we fix Skyrim's combat system?
I think it could be made a lot tighter if attacks had a half second windup, but were much more damaging and always caused a bit of stunning. Further reduced movement while attacking could reduce how floaty combat is.
>>341643725
Play it on Adept. That doesn't give any modifiers to the enemies' damage or to yours.
>>341636035
The master
>>341634517
Casuals.
>>341637325
No, you have to push a second button to roll around on the floor.
>>341644757
Remove it and replace it with Dragon's Dogma's. Add back in stealth.
>>341634310
It didnt
You must get Attack commitment, revenge of the enemies and immersive sound (for those sweet impact sounds) alongside it. Or it will turn from a spamfest into cod: sword and board edition.
That's why I don't play fallout,skyrim or scrolls. Shit is so boring, I put it this way, it's runescape in first person. Sure it's got the world, but fuck is it boringass gameplay
>>341632839
Why are posting this? You realize Skyrim is 5 years old? Literally no one is arguing for Skyrim's combat. I have no idea what you're trying to prove
>>341644757
Just play fallout 4
They did a nice job by "we have no concept of a melee combat system before" standard
Then fucked it over by make it 3rd person only and introduce suicide bomber into the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6vUT07uMOI
I'm kind of surprised there isn't a Skyrim mod package like there is for Morrowind and Oblivion.
Unless I've missed something.
I know there was one, but a lot of the mods included were fucking shit and mostly just animu garbage cosmetic shit and animations.
>>341646426
Skyrim's modding library is too big to do something like that
>>341634517
because people who haven't played RPGS and people who couldn't play rpgs unless they started out good in everything and got better
>>341646374
wtf is this and what is the point if you can't incapacitate enemies
>>341646374
>take a swing
>blocked
>get attacked
>block
>repeat until the person with less restorative items is dead or until someone gets tired of these shenanigans and pulls out a gun
Melee systems can only work with parrying or multi directional swings
>>341646426
Way too much shit for Skyrim to have something as focused as MW and OB's packages.
The mod scene on Nexus alone is close to 50,000 mods large. IMO just download the essentials (SKSE, Unofficial Paches, LOOT, etc) and then go through Tesgeneral website and pick whatever tickles your fancy.
That's my go-to site every time I reinstall the game. Even has optimization and tweak guides to keep your game from crashing every 15 minutes too (but doesn't always work).
>want to be a wizard in skyrim
>all magic is basic as shit
>mod it
>still a clunky mess
>try mucking about in CK myself
>realize why it's garbage
>spells are meant for spamming and nothing else, and it shows with enemy AI
>pick one destruction spell and use only that
>pick a few buffs and a summon at the start of battle, maybe some healing if you have no items, then spend the rest of the fight spamming one spell
Don't even mention fucking apocalypse spells. That mod is garbage. Bunch of situational and conditional nonsense that essentially ends up doing what vanilla spells would do anyway. At least colorful magic tried to look fancy. The best magic is shouts, even vanilla ones.
>>341634517
Skyrim will always remain one of the greatest examples of video game "critic" incompetence
"Journalists" everywhere were giving Skyrim 10/10 GOTY accolades despite it having such obviously poor combat mechanics, which you'll be using for 90% of the game because the RPG mechanics were mostly gutted out.
This is the case with every fucking Bethesda game but few people outside of /v/ seem to be calling them out for their bullshit
>>341647058
i have more fun modding skyrim than i do playing it
6 hours to get the mods just right 1 hour to get bored and stop playing
>>341647094
I was thinking about that the other day playing on my mage. What Skyrim needs aside of more variety besides "fire spell tier 1, 2 and 3" is fucking cooldowns.
Not running out of fucking mana and then running around or swinging your sword until you can spam again, but fucking cooldows. You'd have your run of the mill spam tier spells, firebolt and shit with 1-3 second colldowns and then you'd get higher tier spells with additional effects and increased cooldowns.
Make firebolt stack "on fire" debuff on enemy, the higher the stack the more DOT they get
A spell that consumes all the stacks and deals increased damage per stack and a knockback at at certain threshold, it'd have something like 15 second cooldown.
the aoe spell with better damage and applies stacks but 10 or 20 second cooldown.
Similar deal for ice and lightning. Lightning could have a chance paralyze effect and ice a slowing one.
A destruction buff that increases your spell damage but decreases armor/magic resist.
That alone would have made magic the shit. Right now I have 100% enchanting and yet I abstained from getting 100% cost reduction because that makes the game insuferably boring.
>>341647094
Glad to see I'm not the only one who felt that way about Apocalypse. On the other hand, I think Apocalypse 4.0 is pretty good. You might want to try that version.
>>341646865
it stun them for sometime so you can spam attack without being stagger.
>>341647094
Does Skryim let you see people through walls with certain spells? Can you be a magic ninja like you could in Oblivion?
>>341649018
yea and theres a shout that does it way better than spells can
>>341649018
Yeah. There's also a shout that does the same so you don't even have to be a mage to do that.
>>341634517
Because sandbox openworld
Witcher 3, MGS5, Final Fantasy...etc are nice, but do they have billions of mods? Can you type "tfc1" and freeze the world to take your screenshots? Can you make any NPC your companion through typing a simple code?
Skyrim may be a bad game, but it's an amazing platform to give life to your imagination
>>341632839
>>341632883
>>341633194
it looks great!
I'm trying really hard to play Morrowind but... Christ on a cross, it feels like a WW1 trench.
>>341647652
>This is the case with every fucking Bethesda game but few people outside of /v/ seem to be calling them out for their bullshit
A lot of people have the mindset of "If I like it then it's the best thing ever and people who don't think so are wrong."
Also people are just fucking stupid in general and I don't mean to sound like an edgelord when I say that but it's true. I'm just as dumb.
>>341646950
>parrying
there is in fo4.
it is double tapping the power attack button at an arbitrary time frame
but who need it when you have guns and the enemies have molotov?
> multi directional swings
totally unneccessary
restrict blocking with stamina, durability...
special skills/attack to break block with minor downside
different attack/block types
higher speed to circle strafing
nutting personnel skills
...
diversity is preferred.
>not modding your Skyrim till it becomes DMC
I still need to install the shit that speeds up scripts and animations though.
Also some mod that makes enemies attack faster so they are not so easy to kill.
>>341635129
THICK...
Someone post the webum of that belly being earthquaked by who knows what.
>>341649410
Make sure you dont "imagine" anything degenerate, creep.
>>341649495
Install the graphics & sound overhaul
>>341635570
>first time playing
>had it on console
>spent several weeks playing the game
>evenings and whole days during weekend
>having a blast though all of it
>the dialogue
>the music
>the scenery
>the interactions
>the ending
>beautiful
To this day i have not found a game keeping me captivated like it did.
Thinking about gives me a smile. But knowing i might never find a game to give me such grand feelings off joy and adventure. Takes that smile away.
>>341636201
No, to dark.
Todd my man, what are some good porn mods I should download?
>>341649018
Yes, though you need different spells to detect living beings and undead beings. Using Detect Life/Detect Dead in a certain palace will tell you something interesting about one of the people there, though it'll probably be fairy obvious just from looking at them normally.
>>341634517
Because its the only game which allows running around, doing shit at your leisure, fucking around both metaphorically and literally. Even its RPG and combat elements are utter shit, its freedom makes up for these flaws. My dream "RPG" would be Arsenal and combat of DaS2, open-world like Skyrim and RPG elements like FNV.
>>341650060
You can't stop me, Todd. I'm going to have a threesome with Sylgja and her mom and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>341650038
Need a mod team the size of sureai to make it balanced
Best way to play is with attack commitment, requiem, revenge of the enemies, erso ai, asis, weapon parry standalone and a gore and audio overhaul
>>341650294
to be virtually raped, and then become a bioware writter?
Lovers lab is the common option.
I have teikoku for new vegas and shit. just check it.
http://www.mediafire.com/modsforv#26bbktdz961n8
>>341647094
>Conjuration
>Alteration
DID SOMEBODY SAY """""QUALITY"""""?
>>341632839
>>341632883
>>341633194
Learn to power attack/bash
>>341651113
>never answer the question how someone can have 3 kind of bloods in your system and still survive
TODDD!!!
>>341651286
not interested in discussing the details of a fantasy world
>>341650598
W-will the husband/father watch?
>>341651201
>skyrim combat
>learning
come now anon
it's literally M1 - M1 - M1 and the occasional block with your shield you have equipped for fashion.
>>341647652
This. I enjoyed the first hours because it had decent atmosphere and the dragons were a neat idea but at like the 20 hour mark it starts to hit you how horrible shallow the game is as a GAME and it's mechanics.
It's so fucking shallow. I just plowed through it at that point and beat it but it just got worse the more I played.
They're going to have to overhaul that combat/RPG mechanic system if they want me to buy Elder Scrolls VI. If it looks to play even remotely like Skyrim then I'll pick it up in a Steam sale for 5 dollars years later.
>>341651113
>Aela in male version werewolf
Triggering
Im glad I added the female werewolf mod
>>341651201
>wait twice as long to do twice as much damage
>stagger isnt based on skills or gears but total random chance
wew lad
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There are combat mods out there that add sidestep, rolling, headshot modifier, stagger, more realistic combat, etc. You just have to search a bit on Nexus.
>>341648479
I at one point held a similar sentiment to cooldowns, though in part so it would force npcs to use other spells rather than spam the one offensive one they had.
>mmo-type stacks, DoTs, damage bonus, and procs
Could work.
What I found most jarring about skyrim magic was when I took a short visit to neverwinter nights and D&D games in general. Back then it was in HotU at the end of chapter 1 when you fight a bunch of drow with a cleric and two wizards. A shit-ton of buffs, crowd control, generally shutting enemies before blasting them with damaging spells. It felt like even the AI had some kind of strategy, and shit was difficult too.
>>341650839
>one active summon
>*-flesh spells, cast at the start of the battle and then forgotten
You could have at least mentioned illusion, but even that...
>same three spells over and over again
>fear more of a burden when you have to chase after your enemies
>frenzy only useful before enemies have detected you
>calm a little bit fucking pointless when you need to kill them anyway
>level restrictions
>have to recast invisibility after every single action
It's shit, mate.
Fortunetly Deadly Combat mod exists
MOD THAT HAS FEATURES THAT SHOULD BE IN THE GAME TO BEGIN WITH
>>341643953
It looks like random wapon swinging in TPP too.
>>341651113
I couldn't contain myself when I first saw that shit.
>>341634490
The stealth archer meme exists for a reason.
>>341635129
That's not how asses and tits work they are not fucking jellybags
holy fuck only virgins make these mods
>>341652856
Not if you block a lot, like you would in a real swordfight
You block when your enemy attack, and you attack when he's staggered by your block
Of course you have to actively chose this combat style instead of spamming the attck button with like an autist
But it's like for every RP aspect (chosing to walk/ride instead of teleporting, choosing to sleep...etc)
>>341638206
>I made two videos because there is a LOT to cover
jesus christ
>>341641487
There were better combat systems in fucking older games so that's not an excuse dumb fucking piece of shit casual americunt faggot.
>>341652498
>it would force npcs to use other spells
it wouldnt. they can simply give npcs non cooldown version and block player's access to it.
In fps, ai dont just shoot all time. It's their AI that dictate them to stop.
Mages in rpg should either adopt the fps way of prevent bullet spamming (giving debuff when you use a spell repeatedly) or the dnd spell charges.
>>341651478
No.
By the way, I didn't just make that up. It's an actual quest from SexLab Amorous Adventures.
>>341647058
>Even has optimization and tweak guides to keep your game from crashing every 15 minutes too (but doesn't always work).
Literally the only reason I look forward to my Skyrim updating to the newer version in October. x64 engine update means more mods can be loaded, better optimization, along with the new shaders from FO4, and the game won't take a massive shit every 5 minutes while modded - something that has yet to happen to me in FO4 - and I've installed a shitload of mods.
>>341653235
You're seriously delusional and fucking retarded.
Someone please post that Skyrim vs Dark Souls vs Dragons Dogma webm.
>>341650301
it's only obvious after dawnguard is installed, I literally never knew the person you're talking about was a vampire, but dawnguard made every vamp's eyes look like the inside of a volcano
>>341653531
what the fuck
isnt it restricted to marriagable npcs only?
>>341652498
>What I found most jarring about skyrim magic was when I took a short visit to neverwinter nights and D&D games in general. Back then it was in HotU at the end of chapter 1 when you fight a bunch of drow with a cleric and two wizards. A shit-ton of buffs, crowd control, generally shutting enemies before blasting them with damaging spells. It felt like even the AI had some kind of strategy, and shit was difficult too.
There are two huge problems with D&D's magic system: Vancian casting and the general weakness of direct damage spells.
>>341652735
>MOD THAT HAS FEATURES THAT SHOULD BE IN THE GAME TO BEGIN WITH
There are so many mods that could be described this way.
>>341653776
No. There are a lot of non-marriageable NPCs who have quests/sex scenes in that mod. It's fun to play a sex mod that's not full of rape or bestiality.
>>341653754
Plus their faces are all fucked up.
Funny how the same DLC that makes vampirism obvious to anyone also features a vampire who says their survival depends on blending in and living in the shadows.
>>341632839
Bethesda own Arkane and they literally doesnt care to have the worst combats of the RPG market
>>341653503
I am having a really hard time trying to figure out what you're saying here.
Cooldowns do work on skyrim npcs. Shouts are proof of that. My hope was to add that to certain spells so they might use one powerful spell once, and then only again after the cooldown ended. Otherwise you'd have mages cast only their most powerful spell. It makes creating more interesting mage followers and enemies pretty stupid because you literally can't.
>they can simply give npcs non cooldown version
T H E N
D O N ' T
D O
T H A T
Mages just need spells that do shit other than dealing direct damage, shit that's actually useful, and then they need AI to accomodate that type of magic. Skyrim has neither of those things, so all that's left is buff -> summon -> spam
>>341653870
I remember damage being an issue. That, and save rolls. No real scaling while hp pools and save modifiers increased constantly, I think? It was interesting that the workaround was to shut down enemies and kill them in ways other than their health. As for vancian, I liked what dark souls did. Vancian, yes, but each spell had its own amount of charges. It was a good twist on a shitty spell system, and somehow they managed to make it better than mp bars, as seen in ds3.
Dragon's Dogma did spell resource best, I think. Cast times and regenerating stamina, with winded state when stamina runs out.
>>341653870
>There are two huge problems with D&D's magic system: Vancian casting and the general weakness of direct damage spells.
Magic is so much more powerful than damage
magic being poor damage in DnD is not a problem at all
>>341653645
t. typical butthurt /v/ hipster
If you can't impose additional rules to yourself, you're no better than the casuals you despise so much
>>341640770
Fallout 4 combat was okay. Shame that everything else was shit.
>>341632839
I don't understand the request for out of context skyrim Webms. There is no context where this is not the actual standard of combat in Skyrim. It has shit combat and no context helps that.
>>341654615
>I remember damage being an issue. That, and save rolls. No real scaling while hp pools and save modifiers increased constantly, I think?
That's right. It becomes very apparent if you play any epic-level NWN modules, where the usual trope of "linear warriors, quadratic wizards" actually becomes reversed.
>>341654727
>magic being poor damage in DnD is not a problem at all
It is if you like to play a blaster. Which I do.
>>341655242
blaster isn't even a real class, what DnD are you playing?
My fellow bros, i present to you..................
TEH BEST GAME EVAHH :DD
psh, SCREW Bethesda BASED SLAVS
>>341655323
>posts a webm from before all the patches
>>341655323
They can both be shit anon.
although to be fair I think if you have to compare them then that is the one context in which I would say witcher has good combat.
>>341655313
Blaster means a mage who focuses on direct damage, not a class in and of itself.
Most of my experience of D&D is from NWN, so I'd be playing 3e.
>>341655323
>Bethesdrone derailing the thread
how surprising
>>341655543
>Blaster means a mage who focuses on direct damage, not a class in and of itself.
you're literally gimping yourself by not using AoE or status affecting spells
a "blaster" got a huge buff in DnD 5.0, fireballs and magic missiles now do tons of damage
even then a spellsword is superior
>>341638206
This goes really deep into the way the damage and animations work. Too bad the game has the most braindead combat ever.
>>341655698
>you're literally gimping yourself by not using AoE
I use AoEs all the time. I have to, really, because most higher-level direct damage spells are AoE.
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>>341635404
Is it bad that this reminds me of actual conversations like that which I've had back in the day
>>341655323
>tfw can't get myself interested in the series because I don't care for premade characters
I play fantasy nerdshit so I can be a wizard in them.
>>341655456
That doesn't change 100% stun lock fire stuff
>>341656017
I'm the same way, though I prefer to be a sorcerer instead of a wizard.
bethesda has never had good combat
>>341656024
that you can only cast for as long as you have adrenaline or stamina for?
>>341656024
fire doesn't stun everything, hell many enemies just phase through it
>>341650553
>RPG elements
>FNV
Cringed hard, get them from Oblivion instead of that watered down "choose your meme perks" wacky shitfest.
>>341656295
and at a high level you recharge very fast
>>341656392
Depends on level. You can't stunlock something 10+ levels higher than you but you can definitely stunlock enemies at your level. Even big enemies.
>>341655887
It's Todd. He just do shit because it's cool and/or trendy and have no second thought.
>>341656024
Except you don't have 100% chance to ignite, igni requires stamina and doing any damage to an enemy that is burning puts out the flames and stops the DoT instantly. The freezing Aard spell is way more OP
>>341656657
Bottom tier of Igni, max rank of it has 100% chance to set burning
>>341656532
I literally killed the first boss in NG+ by sitting on my ass, on Death March and spamming igni.
What a shit game.
>>341656742
High level spells are supposed to be powerful.
>>341656742
except to enemies that resist or are immune to it
>>341656746
The Griffin?
>this game is shit because the tutorial boss is too easy
>>341656017
Unfortunately there are no bigass wizard beards for Geralt.
>>341656413
Oblivion is a broken mess of an RPG though. Level scaling takes away all reasoning to level up and can break the game by making it too easy or hard depending on how you manipulated your stats.
>>341657290
the griffin is also prone to fire
>>341651952
>tfw a similar overhaul on Oblivion no longer works
>just like half the mods now apparently
>>341657290
It's quite literally the hardest boss in the game, what you had trouble with Eredin?
>>341657420
>Level scaling
Nothing wrong with it, you have to make a good build or you're fucked. It's not Morrowind, you can't kill everything on 100% by Level 10.
>>341656413
>get them from Oblivion
if only oblivion "rpg" wasnt dogshit.
meme perks = options and specialization
oblivion = liner progression based on the specialization you chose at the start. not to mention the shitty world levelling.
fnv also has meaningful stats and skills.
>>341657619
>good build
>put blade/combat skills as minor skills and grind them to 99 without leveling once
Game is now easy mode.
>>341657376
Nor robes, pointy hats, staves, or an option to chill in a magical tower.
I have very specific tastes and demands that make it very difficult for me to fully enjoy pretty much any video game.
>>341657858
Tower building confirmed in tes6 :^)
>>341657819
If fighting Imps is what you want to do the entire game go ahead, doesn't mean you're actually playing the game.
>>341657858
Geralt will never understand the way of a true wizard.
>>341658036
That would actually be awesome especially if you could hire guards and pretend you're Saruman in Isengard.
>>341658036
"It's magic, I ain't gotta explain why it just works."
>>341656016
Fuck off you child
>>341658371
>the way of a true wizard.
>>341658601
U mad ?
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>>341633948
FUCKING NORMIES RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>341658394
havent you seriously, definitively played fallout 4
it's a /v/ essential
you can build tower, climb them and set guard around while the village you built it in got raped and pillaged.
>>341656017
>tfw you will never be able to change your animations to that of an NPCs
>>341650038
mod?
>>341658825
Jesus fuck that's what happen if you fail to convince her?
>>341651613
Werewolves don't have sexes. Hircine's curse warps people into the most optimal form for hunting and killing. Anything irrelevant to that purpose disappears.
>>341656163
ATATATATATATATATA
>>341659997
Besides, you can't really tell the sex of a dog or wolf at a glance.
>>341659997
>implying boosting aggression through mating instincts isn't the best way to breed murder monsters
>>341660661what mods?
>>341660825The one that makes your game run at 120FPSNo im serious you cannot run the game above 60 or else the physics shit themselves
>>341660825
Some FPS uncapper I think.
>>341634490
WHAT WAS THAT NOISE?
>>341658394
>tfw no game where you can be a wizard chilling in your tower
>autismal tower management and furnishing
>hire/reanimate/build guards and breed horrible chimera abominations for your magical zoo
>send your apprentice to do the footwork and retrieve trivial shit
>astral project through the world
>travel between dimensions that connect to your tower
>send adventurers on Epic Quests to fight an Ancient Evil that has awakened
>fund your shenanigans by selling some magic trinkets to said adventurers
>politics and rivalries between other tower-chilling wizards
>endgame is finding a way to achieve immortality before you die of something retarded like old age
>>341659146
>post-apoc setting
>no wizards
who gives a shit
>>341660825No mods
I had a friend who did beta testing for it. Besides one of the quests being broken and unbeatable, the dragons would do figure eights in the sky erratically
>tfw too retarded to figure out how to modMostly because my version ispiratedbut still
>>341650038
need to know mods
>>341662226
literally drop shit in your data folder and enable the esps.
>>341635570ARE YOU THE HERO OF KVATCH?>dat feel when 90% of /v/ is too young to know this
>>341661761
>post-apoc setting
>no wizards
>who gives a shit
Plus all that annoying 1950s shit.
>>341662910
Posting comfiest Let's Play
https://youtu.be/JG50TN15X6A
>>341644757
Something like moreau would've been fucking great https://youtu.be/jCEjYSZZ1dE
>>341662910I'm not.
>tfw going into the skooma crack den for the first time
>>341663158
And here's the funniest Oblivion LP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbEmJcEkLDc&list=PL61C127584D08B158
Pic related: The actual character these guys made.
What's the best way to play oblivion?
Vanilla, MQ or no MQ, particular guilds, expansions? Or just fuck it and play Nehrim instead?
>>341650038
looks like fucking bleach
>>341664519
Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhoodbut on Elder Scrolls IV
>>341664519
Main Quest is dubiously palatable. The guilds are really great content alongside Shivering Isles.
