Is this appropriate combat attire?
>>341628467
Can you check under her skirt? She doesn't seem to wear pantsu. Too bad Sophie was the MC and not her.
It is in an anime game.
of course, if anything it's too much
>>341628467
Yes. Also this
>>341629642
does this one still have the terrible system where the entire game is timed like the last few did.
>>341631431
nope
>>341628467
skirt should be shorter
>>341631431
>the terrible system where the entire game is timed
End yourself.
She appears to be a magic user, so I'm going to say it is.
>>341632912
She should not wear a skirt desu.
>>341629642
She wears some sort of thong/weird bandage with a string.
>>341633801
>OP actually delivered
BASED
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>>341631431
Nope, they went with "super-comfy do everything at your own pace" system.
Also, help my book turned into a slut...
>>341634117
Everyone turns into a slut in this game apparently.
>>341634586_yes_
>this is official art from CGs from game that is rated ESRB T / PEGI 12
japs sure know how to party
>>341628467
>>341633801
muh dick
>>341635029
>cowtits
Meeeeeeeeh.
how's the framerate this time around. I bought Atelier Ayesha Plus on Vita, and while it was comfy, it had no right running that shit when it looked so fucking basic as it did.
>>341636968
No idea about Vita version, but PS4 runs at 60 fps. I expect no less from those shitty graphics.
I'd never play jrpgs on a Vita. Seems like they all have huge framerate issues.
>>341637271
I played a ton of JRPG's on the Vita, and none of them had any problems compared to Atelier Ayesha.
Also heard that it runs a bit better than Rorona, Totori and Meruru...Playing JRPG's on handhelds is comfy bro.
>>341634117
>>341635029
>>341635613
Weird, i thought she was flat as a book
>>341634117
Nice, might actually buy this one then. If I'm going to play a cute girls jrpg I prefer to take it easy.
You get those 100 vouchers yet /v/?
>>341628467
No panties
>>341628467
do videogames need to be realistic?
>>341637613
Does this game have any connections to the other ateliers or can I just jump right in. I know people say you can jump into any of them and not lose much but after Nosurge I have trust issues.
>>341628467
No this game is made for masturbating nobody cares about the combat
>>341628467
Why the hell is that UI so fucking large? Is that a phone game? I mean really the rest of it's excusable but that action menu shit is ridiculous.
I want to play these games. Which one do I start with?
>>341637958
No connections whatsoever
This is a new setting, just like Arland is (Rorona,totori,meruru) and dusk is (Ayesha, E&L, Shallie)
I want to know something
Is the game good?
>>341638618
Sophie
they aren't really connected with each other (with few exceptions), Sophie is the newest one, also most comfy and most friendly to new players
>>341638792
I need to know what your requirements for "good" are.
>>341638792
It's one of the weaker atelier games in my opinion.
>>341637729
Jesus fucking christ. Japs are degenerate.
Give it to me straight. Are these games actually any good? or are they all YOU MUST GRIND THIS ITEM BY THIS TIME GRIND GRIND GRIND with a dash of moe fan service?
>>341638938
In short, refer to >>341639117
>>341638186
Masturbating to what?
There's not even any Tess porn on pixiv.
Dammit Japan, you are such a fucking dissapointment.
>>341637045
>You came to the wrong neighborhood, puyo~
>>341639248
That doesn't tell me what you want. You're just yelling things.
What are you looking for?
Anyone playing on vita? Are the FPS or graphics acceptable?
>>341639117
From the first Arland game and onwards they get more and more relaxed when it comes to the time limit. But most of the games don't really punish you for not reaching your goals - at most you'll get the "normal" ending. You're supposed to used NG+ to get the best ending.
The games are good. Combat is a bit too simple, and the stories are never that exciting, but the characters are nice, the settings are comfy and the alchemy is cool.
I can totally see why some people won't like it, but I enjoy all of them.
>>341639524
>Flatter than a book
Why doesn't she alchemize herself some tits
>>341639524
Is she the second flattest atelier?
>>341628467
Does this game have that bullshit Time management system? I hated that shit back in Atelier Totori.
>>341639651
Haven't played any of the games after Ayesha but Sophie definetly has very weak characters. There's nobody really outstanding except for the fat guy because he's an autistic wierdo. You could probably sum up most of the characters with just one sentence and that's it.
>all this lewd art
Man, I don't like the art change.
Atelier was never about lewd stuff, it was always about being cute and aside from a few Bath scenes pretty innocent.
>>341639524
Literally perfect.
>>341628467
It's magic, metal doesn't mean jack shit.
>>341628467
Why not its a game, ive seen frogs doning nothing but sunglasses save the world.
>>341640115Yuugen was a mistake
>>341640115
Are you saying it can't be lewd and cute?
>>341639117
No, there are no time limits, you do everything at your own pace.
Gathering is a little grindy but you can get most of the requirements for each new items in few minutes.
The crafting is fun, not really complicated, not grindy but there are a lot of chains (ie.: if you want item with "One Hit Kill" trait you must first acquire items with Critical, Critical+ and Critical++ traits, then combine Critical with Critical+ to get Always Critical, combine Critical+ with Critical++ to get Critical Finisher and then combine those two to get One Hit Kill - on a bomb for example). I basically have done this today in 20 minutes, and that combo with right bomb is so fucking overpowered.
So no, not really grindy, not that complicated either, you just need to spend some time thinking about what you want to achieve and how to get there with items you have.It's fun
>>341639964
I think the Arland trilogy had better characters than the Dusk trilogy.However, the best protagonist is still Annie.
>>341640046
Thank Jesus. Atelier Totori was such a shitshow because of that time system that I never bothered to finish that game.
>>341633703
This, she should wear something more ladylike like a high-leg leotard or micro-shorts
>>341640487
Who are you, me? Exact same situation, same game. Considering trying this one out.
>>341628467
100 hours in paint.
>>341628467
it's a video game so it's doesn't really matter
>>341640370
You can and it is, I just don't like Atelier going in that direction.
The outfit designs where one of my favorite things about the series and aside from Sophie's first costume (which is fucking awesome and probably my favorite MC design) I feel like they all take a hit because the designer wanted to push sex appeal.
I'm saying designs can't be both good and sexy, it's just that you really have to bring your A game if you want to be on Par with the character designs that have been in the games so far.
PC port when?
>>341641109
Meant to type
"I'm not saying designs CAN'T be both good and sexy."
>>341640981
>>341641327
Somehow a party made of anime girls and what seems to be literally jesus.
What did she mean by this?
Glade to see a Atelier thread. How far are you guys? I just changed Plachta into a "human".
>>341641327
Why is she floating
What's up with Japan and their sexy anime children with animal ears?
>>341641642
I just need to kill the last 2 post game bosses and get some money for the plat. The game felt kinda lackluster.
![c-string-thumb[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uaOk92H.jpg "c-string-thumb[1].jpg")
>>341633801
Might be a C-string.
>>341641553
>>341641831
SEMEN LOLI. POST MORE OF HER.
>>341638629
Wut. Logy is in this game so there's at least a loose connection.
JEEZ what a neptunia rip off
whats the game called?
>>341642165
He's a completely different character who happens to have the same name and face.
Nigga doesn't even know what alchemy IS when you first meet him.
>>341638218
That face.
>>341641793
It's cute. Cute things are cute
>>341642095
I'm surprised Sophie let that weirdo into her party.
>>341642095
>Fapbait weeb trash whose sole draw is scantily clad girls doing enticing things
>Male character design is leaps and bounds ahead of the invariably repulsive women
Why does it happen literally every time?
Why is Julio perfect 10/10 husbando?
The crafting system in these games is great but I don't see why they keep half assing the combat. Like, what's the point in the complex and deep crafting system when you don't even need to utilize because combat is so easy? The only reason you use alchemy seriously is to break the games balance completely. I think they had a better balance with the Mana Khemia games since the combat was a bit more challenging in them, so the alchemy was more meaningful.
>>341638825
This man is wrong. You start with Atelier Iris on the PS2. Beat all 3 and then move to Mana Khemia. Finally, you skip to Escha and Logy to enjoy having a male MC.
FINALLY, you begrudgingly play Sophie because you're so used to an important male main.
For those who want gameplay over moe, this is the true path
>>341642313
PS4 or Vita guys?
>ps3 version didn't get localized
reeee
>>341642505
>enjoy having a male MC.
What a gay
>>341642360
That's not a child though.
>>341642382
too bad he's just an uninteresting pedophile who makes realdolls for a living
he probably installed a spycam in plachta's body just to perv on sophie
TELL ME GAME NAME OR ELSE
How do I unlock better weapons after stahl metal? I made some silvalia but I still can't make new weapons
>>341642752
I just like the artist. Happy now?
>>341642894
>>341642989
Logy will tell you he needs something to make his flame hotter, then you craft some garbage and he will make you new weapons.
>>341643049
Not a child either. A child imply that they haven't started to have her period yet. This slut obviously has a hairy vagina and has started to have her periods.
>>341628467
Any else losing steam in this game? I was playing it non stop the past week and now Im losing steam and already want to play something else.
>>341642924
>>341643080
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>>341643282
It's just not very interesting
>>341641448
>>341641593
>>341641710
>>341641831
>>341641970
Those are some weak stats anon. You might be able to beat the sun/moon dragon if you get lucky, but the light elemental is going to fuck you in the ass.
>>341643083
>ps4/vita exclusive
>>341642505
>For those who want gameplay over moe, this is the true path
Those who want gameplay over moe realize the series delivers both, and go play Rorona+ and the rest of the Arland trilogy together with Ayesha+ if they liked it well enough, then ignore the series until GUST becomes good again.
>>341637729
>>341643698
>Not telling people to play and enjoy the PS2 games
>>341643505
I only just unlocked 4th tier weapons.
>>341643802
>>341637729
Yall are chumps if you didn't play on despair.
>>341643808
Iris has a shit synthesis system, a shit structure and shit combat, though. I'd only really recommend Mana Khemia.
>tfw I'm shit at Tetris and can't make any good items
serious question here
How is the gameplay and story telling? i know nothing about it, ive played the neptunia games which look similar. Jp audio? Is the dialogue funny?
>>341643698
Are you trying to imply that E&L is not only of the best entries in the series? It had the best combat by far, much better synthesis than arland and ayesha, and a decent story. The worst part was the mediocre characters. Sophie is also one of the best entries, but with worse combat but better characters.
Arland is so overrated by people who played it as their first games of the series, when in reality it has almost nothing to offer. Piss poor shallow synthesis and combat with borderline no story.
Yes post more screenshots.>>341643523
>>341640143
Jesus is in this game?
>>341644539
>>341644403
Shallie had the best combat and synthesis.
Ayesha has the best music.
>>341644403
>Sophie
>good characters
Is this a joke? Designs maybe, but they easily have the blandest personalities of any Atelier.
How the fuck is Sophie so cute? I can't take it. She's just too perfect.
>>341644650
Only monika and the sword faggot, the rest are no more bland than arland.
Am I the only one who misses the 2D sprites?
Even though the character models in Sophie are amazing every character only has the same three or four facial expressions. I've already been through a few situations where Sophie says something sad but she's grinning like a fucking idiot.
Arland had like a dozen expressions for most characters.
>>341644403
Rorona+ is literally the perfect Atelier game, actually.
The biggest issue with post-Ayesha entries is the even more linear structure to the games, and in E&L specifically synthesis felt stupidly dumbed down and restricted in comparison to past entries. Combat is good, but what made Atelier was more than the combat, it's more about the cohesive whole and need to plan your actions ahead while performing the best you can with as little time as possible.
My first Atelier was actually MK (at least technically), and while I love the game, it's still not as good or mechanically sound as Rorona+.
I love all three Arland games, but I mentioned that one specifically for a reason. It's that good.
>>341644918
>Sophie says something sad but she's grinning like a fucking idiot
It's the weed
>>341628467
>/v/ sexualizing lolis again
Stop this.
>>341645476
Ok, sorry.
>>341645476
Make me
>>341644918
Im glad they moved on. In game models are more appealing to me sense you actually see the rooms and environment they are in. As well as the motions of the characters etc.
Sprites always seemed lazy to me, so easy to make and all the cutscenes look the same. You don't get a sense of actual interaction, which in some ways is cool because you have to use your imagination to see how the scene plays out, but I think its stayed its welcomed.
I wouldn't want the arland series to change, I like the sprites in the game because they are good art, but I think its nice they have moved on and taken a break from it. I skipped the dusk trilogy so I dont know if they are in those games.
Thats my 2 cents
>>341645410
>in E&L specifically synthesis felt stupidly dumbed down and restricted in comparison to past entries
That is literally the dumbest thing I have heard all day
Arland alchemy was literally just drag and drop 3 or so items
>it's more about the cohesive whole and need to plan your actions ahead while performing the best you can with as little time as possible
Don't even pretend you needed to do that in Rorona, you would easily finish all of your assignments with 30 days to spare.
>>341644890
>the rest are no more bland than arland.
you must be fucking high or haven't played arland at all. rorona and sterk alone had more chemistry together than the entire sophie cast. some of them were tropes but at least they WERE tropes. you can't even categorize sophie's characters due to how shitty they are,
>>341628467
Is she a mage? Mage often wear magic robes. So if she is then yes.
>>341633801
What does her cunny smell like?
>>341644403
E&L would have been a lot better if 80% of the game wasn't spent doing nothing. The pacing was completely fucked, and that "decent story" is relevant for 5% of the game with all the fantastic world building Ayesha had being pointless for the other 95%.
For everything E&L does really well, it fucks something up equally as much. Dusk as a whole could have been so much better than what it was, and it's a massive shame because they might never try something like that again for the series.
>>341644650
I liked Sophie's characters because it felt like they found a good balance between the whacky style of Arland and the grounded style of Dusk. I can understand why people dislike them, though.
>>341645775
>Arland alchemy was literally just drag and drop 3 or so items
And the properties of each items would lend to different results that would make the final item, more often than not, a broken weapon of mass destruction during the endgame. Playing with quality and traits is the entire point of synthesis in Arland games, and Ayesha as well.
>you would easily finish all of your assignments with 30 days to spare.
Finishing the assignments isn't the only thing you can do in those games, especially Rorona+ or Ayesha+. The main goal is about one third of all you can achieve.
It is basically this except the female version.
>>341645979
Don't sexualize lolis.
>>341645828
>implying sterk had half a personality until at least meruru, which took a whole 3 games of buildup
>implying shit like gino, mervia, and lionela were dynamic and interesting
>>341645941
I just realised she has nothing underneath. I'm not sure this is appropriate combat gear. I've also noticed the metal things at the end of her sleeves. What the fuck is that design?
>>341646138
>grounded style of Dusk
I probably laughed more in an hour of any Dusk game than in my whole time playing Sophie.
There's no balance of anything in Sophie, the characters are just boring and all the interactions are completely mundane.
>>341645773
And what sense of interaction do you get from Sophie's cutscenes? They all just have the same few animations, even when they're supposed to "interact" with each other.
i.e. when you get the new costume from Leon they're both just standing there in front of each other, like she's getting surprised by the fucking air between them.
Or when you're supposed to give an item to someone, the item's icon just pops up on the center of the screen.
That's even lazier than the sprites in my opinion.
>>341646147
>And the properties of each items would lend to different results that would make the final item, more often than not, a broken weapon of mass destruction during the endgame.
That applies for literally every game after it. What are you smoking to think otherwise? You needed cookie cutter traits to beat rorona postgame anyway
>Finishing the assignments isn't the only thing you can do in those games, especially Rorona+ or Ayesha+. The main goal is about one third of all you can achieve.
Then why would you argue that E&L doesn't have it when it's functionally identical in that regard?
>>341646354
They should stop being so sexy if they don't want to be sexualized.
>>341646409
don't talk shit about lionela
>One Rorona fag is enough to ruin the whole thread
Well, time to leave.
>>341646294
This is an useful reminder pic, but not for who you think.
>>341646664
>lolis
>sexy
>>341646862
I'd like to play this, but I'm neck deep in Disgaea item world grind and can't stop. Send help
>>341646147
Ayesha alchemy gave me cancer.
>inherit properties backwards
>>341647039
I know that how you feel. I had 400 hours on Disgaea 3 and Disgaea 4.
>>341646635
>That applies for literally every game after it.
Getting good traits in E&L specifically is more of a grinding game than anything else, with not much of a time limit to make you fuck off and actually play the game.
>You needed cookie cutter traits to beat rorona postgame anyway
This applies to every Atelier game.
>Then why would you argue that E&L doesn't have it when it's functionally identical in that regard?
It's all but identical. Regardless, as I said before, the games are more of the cohesive whole the mechanics form, from exploration to battle to synthesis to the time limit. E&L onwards took a lot of that away, and even if you want to argue the end goal is the same, as >>341646138 said the pacing of the game is terrible.
>>341646862
Mirai is literally the sexiest Senran though.
>>341647297
400 hours each, and not added together.
>>341647391
>implying getting x soul items in rorona+ required any less of a grinding game
>implying you have any idea what you just typed and aren't just hastily scrambling an excuse for your own nostalgia
I agree the pacing was off but not all that much more than rorona.
I see the shitstorm, but you didn't really need to go out of your way to beat overtime bosses.
Now, Makina Domain and the Ayesha Plus bosses. Dear god.
>>341647748
>implying you have any idea what you just typed and aren't just hastily scrambling an excuse for your own nostalgia
More like I don't remember E&L that much because it was a pretty forgettable game I played about three years ago. I'm trying to remember gameplay systems but all I really come up with is that I fucking hated that game.
>>341647974
I bet you're a yurifag
Where the fuck is the fairy cauldron
Apparently if you play with English VO, characters are only voiced for cutscenes.
But if you do Japanese, the characters a voiced during casual conversation
Anyone bought the dlc costumes?
Did the western version get censured?
>>341648941
Hell no
If they were for Sophie or Corneria I'd consider it, Plachta is just too ugly.
>>341648941
Not until they add the jp one too
>>341648941
I always end up 100%ing the games before the dang dlc comes out.
>>341648941
>$11
Holy shit that's more expensive than usual.
>>341648912
That's pretty common in this kind of game. English voices are just there for the the hell of it pretty much.
>>341644918
I miss them too. It made the Arland games quite fun due to facial expressions.
But with the Dusk and now Sophie and Firis the quality of the models is getting better and better. I can't see situations where sprites would still fit in even if I want them back. Who knows. If Gust ever makes a fourth Arland game they might bring back sprites.
>>341647974
Easy way to remember E&L gameplay is that it's basically a gimped version of Mana Khemia.
You probably haven't played Mana Khemia though because you started with Arland and haven't touched anything else besides maybe Ayesha.
What's the next upgrade from Edel Cloth?
