https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhl5sk9i6Mk&feature=youtu.be
Welp.
no shit
nintendo has had shit hardware since the wii
gamecube was the last truly powerful console they ever made
>>341613470
Post yfw Nintendo hasn't been good for over a decade.
are they retarded or is it a money thing?
let that new zelda cuck along for all I care, I defiantly wont be buying an NX now
>>341613759
>baby's first bait
what else could it possibly be about? an attractive case? ergonomic buttons?
>NX discussion in 2015 hints at it being a home console more powerful than the Wii U, albeit different
>NX discussion now hints at it being another case of the Wii
It's hard to feel anything when I don't know what the fuck the NX is, or who the Wii U was even meant for.
>>341613960
https://twitter.com/tomphillipsEG/status/743138601836306432
Considering all signs are pointing towards smartphone-like cycled for consoles in the future I don't really give a shit anymore.
>>341614042
Gimmicks
>>341613470
Nice going Nintendo, you don't need to compete with Sony and Microsoft, you're going to be your own worst enemy! Great job!
>>341613470
Fuck Reggie hawaiian nigger ass
>>341613470
Jesus christ when will Nintendo understand that not having a powerful console at this point isn't niche or cute or fulfilling a higher purpose.
They ACTUALLY are holding themselves back now. The wii was the last console where this was acceptable since it was publicizing new tech, now they're just putting out garbage hardware.
>>341614249
Code name steam is better than half of the upper games. It was only panned because casual reviewers.
Frankly CN STEAM is living proof that Nintendo can still deliver.
He's not wrong though. Spec wars are dumb, nobody wants to hear a company ramble on about pixels and TFLOPs
People are failing to understand that the newly unveiled Scorpio and shit likely surpassed the NX, and they are not backtracking
That said, the NX is obviously stronger than the Wii U
>We will never get a Pixar-tier looking Mario galaxy
E
B
I
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Can't wait for Nintendo to die and sell it's IP to devs who might actually do something with it for other systems.
>>341613470
Maybe I won't feel so bad about buying the shitty Wii U version of Zelda after all.
>>341614457
Nobody wants to develop or play games on a console with las gen hardware either though.
No one is going to fault them for making the console slightly more expensive in exchange for more competitive specs.
>>341614249
Oh boy
>>341614530
Considering Sony is actively ruining its own ips like god of War and Crash and left abandoned others like parapa, medievil, etc I dont see where should Nintendo franchise go
>>341614127
Pretty much this.
I don't know who wanted a Wii U. I got one because I wanted to play nintendo titles, but overall as a whole, this console is weak and pointless as fuck. Had they actually just made a GOOD console, we wouldn't need the NX right now.
And now it's sounding like the NX is just another case of the Wii U, progressing horizontally instead of upwards. As a long time Nintendo fan I'm done being excited for Nintendo shit, they just keep disappointing me and making bad decisions over and over.
New Zelda is at least looking to be a good game. Their game quality hasn't really changed, but their way of thinking the industry works is completely retarded.
>>341614009
What bait? He's not wrong.
>>341613470
Nintendo will have the last laugh. They're doing the smart thing by not trying to compete with the PC
>>341614571
>720p and 15 fps or 900p with 30fps (and drops)
>>341613470
>We create content that makes people smile
Well are you smiling?
>For us it's not about the product
>For us it's not about the consumer
>For us it's all about how much money we can pull out of retards who buy things purely out of company loyalty and nostalgia
>>341614483
>Stronger than the Wii U
Most cell phones are stronger than the Wii U. That is saying literally nothing.
The NX is going to be like what wii to wii U was, incremental improvement at best, same shit different name at worst.
>>341614684
>wario world, pokemon colosseum and game and watch gallery 4
>bad
fuck right off
>>341614457
the whole reason they made the NX is because the wiiu is failing because of specs
and now they want to make another wiiu
its like the people in charge are shizophrenic
>muh specs
>muh possibilities and innovations
where can i find those on ps4 and xbone?
the wii u is utter shit but this generations specs did fuck shit for gameplay.
>>341614821
>For us it's all about how much money we can pull out of retards who buy things purely out of company loyalty and nostalgia
It's kind of glaring at this point how much Nintendo relies on people who have bought their shit forever to keep buying their shit without trying too hard to create solid improvement. I used to love this organization, they've just stagnated so hard.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>341614729
>They're doing the smart thing by not trying to compete with the PC
consoles are not competing with PC
if they would, they would have been long gone
>>341614874
>most cell phones
Wrong
>>341613470
I wish they would just do both. Make a console that is power, maybe not as powerful as the competitors but at least modern, and content that is colorful and different. Zelda was such a good glimpse at what content creators are capable of when given the opportunity, why not give them a fucking platform that can go even further with? I just don't understand the mind set.
The only thing that comes to mind is that this isn't really Reggie talking, it's Nintendo. They don't want to spend the money or take the risk of making a more powerful console. He's just selling it.
>>341615253
Prove me wrong, Nintendo fanboy.
>NES dominated
>SNES dominated
>In one generation Sony took over the home console marketshare with PS1 and all third party companies practically stopped caring about Nintendo home consoles even to this day
What the fuck happened? Did Sony bribe them?
>>341614009
yet you still replied
cretin
>>341614697
>Considering Sony is actively ruining its own ips like god of War and Crash
>crash
>sony ip
Your opinion was immediately discarded right there
>mfw people won't eat this shit up
>but will happily eat the shit that is PS4K and the Xbone Slim because "MUH VR!" gimmick
>>341613759
>decade
>N64 and Gamecube controller gimmicks
>good
>>341615347
I think Nintendo tried to innovate too much. And now they have people in power that have this mind set and have pioneered it's course. The ride won't end any time soon.
>>341613470
Nintendo stopped competing with ppwer on gen 6, when their two powerful consoles failed in arow against less powerful consoles.
I really feel pity for those that still clinge onto the hope they will make a powerhouse console. It will never happene. NEVER.
I'm not even defending them. I am just baffled by the stupidity and delusion of most people.
>>341614908
My thoughts exactly.
>>341615490
VR isn't wagglan though, it's actually a radical change in technology. Enough so that there's investors behind it and it'll develop whether we like it or not.
Be thankful you can watch porn on it or nobody would have invested nearly as much time and/or effort into it
>>341613470
This is why i'm not buying an NX, they still have their head far up their ass and don't know what to do anymore.
Probably i will get an NX IF it gets a great library of exclusives otherwise it's all about Scorpio and NEO BABY
>console hardware isn't going to be powerful
Okay.
>online will still be terrible
>still enforces region lock
>prevents anyone from hacking the system to mod or customize games or the system interface to their liking
And this is why I have no hope for the NX. Or consoles in general to be fair.
This is SEGA all over again...
Daily reminder Aonuma indirectly shit on the pointless gamepad because of how clunky it is to split the gameplay through 2 screens so far apart.
>>341615698
Yes, VR is such a radical change in technology, strapping two screens to your head and being given - surprise, surprise - waggling controls to interact with the projected worlds with.
It's a fad, no different from the Wii and when everyone was trying to hop on the motion control bandwagon.
>People say that Sony is going broke
>Yet invest more into their consoles lifecycles and hardware than Nintendo
What happened? Where is all of Nintendo's money going?
Are people overreacting?
It honestly doesn't matter as long as the console actually HAS GAMES.
WiiU was, what, over 18 months before the release of the first major first-party title? What a disaster.
>>341615232
MS has basically killed Xbone in favor of PC and Sony has basically admitted that it's "ps4.5" is to stop gamers from jumping ship to PC. Gaming overall is shifting towards PC but Nintendo is holding back in order to fulfill a specific niche, of which there will basically be no other competition. Nintendo will succeed!
>>341615347
The PS3 did not win it's gen.
>>341613960
Are you retarded or is it a heritage thing?
She was asking about the Neo and the Scorpio which are 4+ Tflops. Did you expect NX to be on par with these consoles? He was saying "it's not about teraflops" clearly referring to the Scorpio 6Tflops. It will be 2~Tflops, on par with PS4.
>>341615910
>fad
>implying hundreds of millions of dollars went into developing wagglan' like VR
I think it's as retarded as the rest, but you're retarded to think VR isn't here to stay.
People here often forget that /v/ is the vocal minority when it comes to how popular things actually are. People are eating the shit out of VR and will continue to do so as long as you promise they'll get to "live in your dream world"
>>341613470
>"For us it's not about specs"
But to the consumer it is
>>341616083
Xbox did, definitely. PS4 has won/winning this gen though, Xbone is a joke.
>>341613470
p-please...just please...make it not a complete pile of shit weaker than my HTC phone....please nintendo. You can't just release an underpowered system and make almost no good games.
>>341615968
Yes, everybody is overreacting. It's justifiable considering how the Wii U turned out, but we don't fuckin' know ANYTHING about the NX yet.
Maybe it's as powerful as the PS4/Xbone, yet weaker than the PS4 Neo/Scorpio. Nobody knows.
>>341614530
Keep dreaming autist
>>341613470
It's funny because he's completely right about Zelda.
Our Catalog is full of this shit.
>>341615958
Muppet look alikes.
like reggie even knows anything about the NX
>>341616023
>Sony has basically admitted that it's "ps4.5" is to stop gamers from jumping ship to PC
They didn't "basically admit". They outright admitted the PS4.5 is to try stop people going to PC gaming.
Shawn Layden also wheeled out the "Specs don't matter" line earlier, though so Sony and Nintendo have something in common this E3
>>341613470
Why bother with specs when PC users will always be up-to-date?
>it's next handheld is gonna be 480p
Fucking hate these cheap fucks
>>341614404
Was it that good? Liked the look, but I never played FE before.
>>341614908
The Kirby Wii U game isn't all that bad either, I'm sure it will be one of those "hidden gems" down the line.
It's interesting to see how many decent games gets a very crappy score on metacritic. Sure was a nice time when you were to young to read up on such things.
>>341616371
So it literally means nothing
>>341616297
>Maybe it's as powerful as the PS4/Xbone, yet weaker than the PS4 Neo/Scorpio
Obviously this. Its gonna be just like the Wii U, slightly above the PS4 or judt on par. People are retarded.
>>341614684
>mfw i bought flingsmash for 20€ because it had the 70€ wiimote
>>341615958
Scorpio kicks the shit out of the neo though sonycuck
>>341614530
This is actually something that will never happen, I don't know why you autist always spout this shit.
>OMG IMAGINE ZELDA ON PLAYSTATION
You sound like a fucking 4 year old that has no idea how intellectual properties work.
>>341615783
>muh incremental upgrades and whoring out more money for the same shit
Retards like you actually exist
>nx specs on par with the wii confirmed since ubisoft said nx will get the wii userbase back
>>341613470
Well I guess that's it. Nothing to see here.
Some people just never learn.
>>341616504
>WiiU
>Slightly above the PS4 or on par
What fucking planet are you from?
>>341613470
Nintendo confirmed dead. It's gonna be the same shit as Wii and Wii U. Their only chance is if the NX actually does have some revolutionary mechanic in it's hardware that actually vastly improves gameplay capabilities unlike the Wii's motion control and the Wii U's gamepad.
>Ubisoft mentions Just Dance game will be coming to NX, no such mention for their other games
It's over.
>>341616631
>>muh incremental upgrades and whoring out more money for the same shit
I'd rather have that than stupid useless gimmicks.
>red ocean
I'm so sick of this bullshit
There's no such thing as a non-competitive market in a capitalistic society
>>341616504
Impossible to be just on par though
It's standard is likely 1080p 60fps
>>341616379
People will shit on graphics being useless, but updating graphics every generation does add a bit of variety and uniqueness to a game. I think the WiiU did a good job of doing that, after 99% of the Wii's library looked bland and uninspiring visually.
On top of that, things like framerate, draw distance, special effects, and number of objects allowed on the screen can have an actual effect on gameplay. The difference from Xenoblade to XCX is uncanny with the updated specs.
>All about content
Than why not become a 3rd party publisher and release your games on actual good consoles like the Xbox One and theXbox One S
>>341616083
It won with games and by Sony being the most respectable company of it's gen, or any gen for that matter.
>>341616138
Finally someone with common sense here. She was only talking about the specs of the incremental upgrades of PS4 and Xbone. Which is over 4 TF.
Anyone expecting NX to somehow shoot for that despite knowing nothing about these upgrades at the time deserve to be disappointed and laughed at.
Be happy if this thing even touches 2- 2.5 TF
>>341616194
No, to the graphics whore it is.
>>341613470
Well duh.
They weren't planning on MS and Sony releasing a new gen already.
NX is likely akin to PS4 level at best.
>>341613470
>it's not about specs
nothing wrong with that, the Wii U failed because of its shit fucking gimmicks not its specs
>>341613470
Wii U will probably be my last Nintendo console. I'm not paying 350 dollas for 2001 hardware.
Fuck you, Nintendo.
>>341616672
There is no way Nintendo will ever see the wii userbase again because the wii userbase wasn't "gamers". It was families, educational facilities, hospitals, every fucking person bought a wii because it didn't sell itself as video games, it was the most casual of casual entry level "play with everyone" shit, approachable by all.
Basically, they hit gold the first time, they can't sell actual video games to that audience though. Like 50% of wiis were bought for wii fit and wii bowling. That shit won't happen again.
>>341613470
>confirmed gimmicky
>confirmed weak shit
>>341616371
So I'm right and Nintendo is making the right decision.
>>341616843
The Wii U is slightly above the PS3/360, which is why he's saying the NX is probably gonna be like the Wii U. Same deal, but with the current slew of 8th gen consoles.
When was the last time Reggie said anything of value again? Look, I love the guy and what he represents as a face for NoA, but other than announcements, there wasn't a single time that this fucker said anything worth listening about the industry.
For fucks sake, not long ago he was shitting on streamings and Let's Players and look how big and important to catch the public's attention this has become now
>>341616843
You are retarded. Just "like the Wii U" was about the Wii U being on par/slightly above PS360. The NX will be on par with the PS4.
>>341616902
It will be just over 2 Tflops allowing the console to output true 1080p 60fps.
>>341614908
No fucking shit, the point was that metacritic is only used for the easiest bait and that game journalists usually have shit casual tastes/skill levels.
If its not about specs why make a new more powerful console and sell the next whatever controller gimmick as an acessory.
What was the other thing Reggie said not long ago?
>the next zelda is so vast that no one will be able to explore this tiny portion of it fully at E3
>turns out it's because they put a timer on the demo
>>341616631
>muh incremental upgrades and whoring out more money for the same shit
Same shit as the NX, Nintendrone. Nintendo threw Wii U owners under the fucking bus with this one. I guess that's how they repay their loyal fans for sticking with them when times are tough.
>>341616448
It means Sony is going to try to prevent more games going to the PC and it was very evident this E3 they were trying not to promote as little as possible that's possible. They didn't even have a Single indie game they were promoting like Pyre or No Man's Sky that were only getting console releases on PS4.
Which is kinda hilarious considering how much they were promoting how great they are for indies in 2013 and now it's "Fuck off, indies".
fuck you guys. the NX will be COMFY. who cares about graphics? COMFY is more important.
>>341617041
>senior kek
Let's say the NX was on par with the PS4 Neo and the new Xbox. Just for fun let's pretend that all three new consoles are equally good.
So NX will now also get all the multiplat games such as Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, Mass Effect, Fifa etc.pp. You know, the usual.
Alright. So... what now?
The problem is that the people who buy a Nintendo console are not the people who do so to buy these kind of games. The people who want to play Call of Duty or Fifa do so on the consoles where all their friends they play with are. Why would every dudebro out there suddenly buy an NX to play CoD, GTA, Madden or whatever when all of his buddies are on Xbox or Playstation? Or even on PC?
For what purpose?
This is the problem. Nintendo CAN'T win when it comes to multiplats. EVEN IF they make their console strong enough to attract all the devs to throw their multiplat onto the NX as well, the people who buy an NX don't care about these games. Most of them have a PC + Nintendo combo anyway, they buy Nintendo platforms for Nintendo games and exclusives.
Prove me wrong, I'd like to see you all try.
>>341613759
the consistently been getting regressive they need to let the new guys run thing
they are capable of making good games still but they make such retarded decisions
All I want is 1080p 60fps
Other than that I don't care
IT'S FUCKING OVEEEERRRRThis better mean a cheap ass NX.
>>341616843
He's referring to the way the WiiU is slightly above PS3 level, the NX will be slightly above PS4
Which makes sense. Presumably when the console started development in 2013 this was always the plan, they just didn't count on the ps4 lasting a measly 3 years before getting replaced
>>341615347
Nintendo had legendarily horrible third party policies through the SNES and NES eras which were EA-tier or worse. The popularity of the PS1 and the disk-based system were a way for them to escape that.
>>341613604
>nintendo has had shit hardware since the wii
Nintendo hasn't had the upper hand on hardware since the SNES.
>>341616959
Because Nintendo is the Disney of video games. They have an image in their games that doesn't mesh with any of the other organizations. And because I'm pretty sure that the majority of the people who make up and own Nintendo would rather see it burn to the ground before they become the next SEGA.
>“Pride turned to arrogance. Ugly arrogance. Nintendo started to develop contempt for the gaming community. They felt as if they were being betrayed by the gamers they created. The marketing teams started to look at gamer focused strategies with ire and spite.” says Mercury. “The “hardcore” Nintendo audience was equally cast aside. “Why bother? They’re going to buy anything we put out anyway.”
>>341616986
Exactly. But that's the Nintendo hate by the Sonytards. The console will most likely be near 2 Tflops or even 1.5 but considering it will have 2015/16 hardware, it will still be more powerful than PS4. Not by much, but enough to prevent third parties to go the "it's underpowered shit" route again. Nintendo isn't retarded enough to put out a sub-Xbone console that's 3 years old when a new pair of consoles that's 4 times more powerful than the Xbone are just about to be released. They aren't crazy.
>>341613759
>dodged shitendo bullets since snes era
>>341614717
>unclaimed conjectures and baseless fear mongering
Just wait and see. Your armchair retort is embarassing
>>341617312
Even if its cheap. I bought a Wii U and it cost me half of what I paid for my PS4, and its a piece of garbage. Sure it has some good games, but this gen has been embarrassing for Nintendo home systems.
>>341617220
>So NX will now also get all the multiplat games such as Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, Mass Effect, Fifa etc.pp. You know, the usual.
It's won't. Ubisoft in particular announced their first NX game and in the same breath failed to announce any of their other games for it.
He's right. Nintendo's most successful consoles have been underpowered yet had loads of great games. Like the PS1 and PS2 as well, its about games not hardware.
>>341617220
adding stuff the other versions don't?
tekken tag 2 added extra modes, music and nintendo costumes
stuff like that
>>341617448
>Nintendo isnt retarded enough to...
After this past gen, I'm not sure anymore anon.
>>341617370
Not me. NX a shit.
>>341617489
Please read my post again.
>>341613470
The NX better be cheap as fuck.
>>341617215
Source on that quote?
>>341613470
Well, he's right about the content, but all I care is that the games run niecely despite how they look, see Tales of SYmphonia, runs so nice on GC but so shit in everything else, sur,e it's not the console's fault, 'cept for ps2 maybe but what I mean is, just have steady 60fps for gods sake.
>>341613470
>"For us it's not about specs"
Well DUH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5Wp6T6XR90
>>341616416
>Sure was a nice time when you were to young to read up on such things.
I'm not going to lie, I kinda miss when you gauged a games quality on the basis of having hired it from the video store, borrowed it from a friend, or popped around to a friends to check it out after school.
>LOL 8/10
>FLOP
...seems to be the new metric.
for nintendo it's never about specs. Havent you learned that by now?
>>341614908
The point of the image is cherry picking metacritic scores you mongoloid
>>341617370
I want to hear a song about Nintendo by Freddy Mercury
>>341617354
>The SNES was more powerful than the Genesis
>The N64 was more powerful than the playstation
>The Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2
Given it overall mattered less back then than it does now.
>>341617597
Like the wii-u rite?
>>341617593
No. You brought forward something that factually isn't happening and used it as a hypothetical. The rest of your post has no merit.
>>341616181
even if people eat it up, they will get bored fast of teleporting simulators and the technology of VR is not advanced enough to have more right now
its doomed
>>341613470
>content focused
Then where the FUCK are the games, Reggie?
>>341617215
Who fucking cares? Its ridiculous that they're asking to upgrade this quickly after Wii U.
Wii U only got two years of game support thanks to the droughts. Not even two "good" years, just two years total. I'm fine with a short console life as long as the library justifies it. Wii U didn't accomplish that. Hell, Wii U's life didn't even really begin until Pikmin 3 came out which was 9 months after launch.
It has been proven time and time again that raw power != best console.
>PS1 vs N64
>PS2 vs lol everything
>Wii vs PS3/360
>Even 360 vs PS3
>Gameboy vs any other handheld
>GBA vs PSP
>3DS vs Vita
Remember that cell processing bullshit from 2006?
>Virtually infinite memory!
Yeah, and virtually impossible to code for too.
The better the games, the better the system.
>>341613759
Melee
Metroid Prime
F-Zero
top tier games. Something the world probably will never see again.
>>341617789
You seem to lack a brain.
>>341617224
You sound like a defeated Nintendo fan.
Let me tell you what's wrong with Nintendo: yesmen and stupid optimism.
I worked as a CSR for Nintendo 2 years ago and the biggest reason I fucking left is because NONE of the bosses or heads seemed to take criticism from anyone.
You can suggest something that's infinitely more efficient and it'd get shot down. The marketing guys there that were my age were so devoid of passion from being told "that's just how it is"
They need new management on a drastic level to get any change done. Half of the decisions you see as a consumer are made by the starbuck girls in marketing then edited by guys like you and me to be relevant to video games.
Working for them was fun only in the sense that I got to play video games at work and the environment was calm. But nepotism and cliques were really rampant, along with the fact that you knew you, on a personal level, would not be allowed to make a difference in the organization because of higher ups.
>>341616972
>Paid online
>No retrocomp.
>Few exclusives
>Most exclusives are just SONY being jews (Like KOF)
>XBOX wannabe interface
>Can't even run Dark Souls 3 at 60PFS
>"HD REMASTERS" from last fucking gen
Sure thing bro
>>341614684
PUSHMO HAHAH HOLY FUCK
>>341617558
I mean yeah the Wii U was a fucking wasteland and they did fuck all to bring back third parties but they've shown they're trying to bring them back recently. There's just no way they're telling them "Come and make games on NX which is under Xbone power level when there's a new console that's 4 times more powerful than Xbone that's just about to be released and that you'll make 100 times more money with!"
>>341617819
>where the fuck are the games
>NX not even announced yet
>already know it launches with amazing Zelda BotW
what exactly do you expect at this point in time
>>341614404
Fuckin this!
after the patch the game became god tier
I just want them to go third part and start releasing their games on PC at this point so I can stop buying their shit hardware.
>>341614908
>he actually takes metacritic scores serious
Look, real "gamers" don't really give a shit about console wars or critic scores. The ONLY thing that should really matter is if you have fun in a game. Technical issues aside if you have the rest doesn't matter.
If you're in to gaming for the image and not the fun you're doing it wrong.
>>341617497
fuck off retard
PS4 is the most powerful console out and is still shitting on everything
>>341616845
Kill yourself. Your logic is just too dumb
>>341616861
So you would rather spend another 500+ for the same shit over and over. What an idiot
>>341617049
ded game when is seiba coming out?
>>341613470
>it's all about the content
These fucking Wii U droughts tell me otherwise Reggie you fat fuck
>>341613470
and thank god for that, specs are literally ruining videogames as a whole and consoles should NEVER be about specs only, that's the pc realm and the fact that xbox and playstation have literally nothing unique compared to a PC is fucking sad
>>341617754
And that is because of the new IPs. People want their CoD, BF, FF, MGS more than a more powerful Nintendo console capable of running Mario at 60fps in 1080p.
>>341617853
You seem to be ill informed.
>>341617474
>Actually believing that 2016 Nintendo can develop anything good after the entirety of the Wii U
Iwata died for nothing.
>>341618062
>one example vs tens of examples
Damn, guess I'm a #sonydrone now
>>341617754
and the xbox was more powerful than the gamecube retard
>>341616218
>>341616972
The Wii won that generation by a landslide. 3rd best selling home console in the world.
>>341617050
>he thinks being a regional ceo for a multi billion dollar company with shareholders means anything
he cant even wipe his ass wothout asking for permission
>>341616402
It plays like Valkyrie Chronicles/xcom
>>341617958
I can actually believe this, based on what other former NoA employees have mentioned about the company. They really gotta restructure their shit.
>>341617782
Wii U was severely overpriced
$350 for Wii U seemed like highway robbery next to a $400 PS4 which is like 5 times as powerful
>So you would rather spend another 500+ for the same shit over and over. What an idiot
Yeah, like i said, i'd rather upgrade my PC instead of shitty gimmicks, you stupid drone.
>>341618081
>500+
The desperation of you PCucks never cease to amuse me
>>341617354
Even that is debatable.
>>341618120
Hopefully NX is the only upcoming Nintendo platform.
Right now Nintendo is spreading out their games across WiiU and 3DS.
Imagine if all of Nintendo and its friendly studios etc, if all of them got to focus on just ONE platform.
I want every future Zelda, Mario, Pikmin, Smash, Mario Kart, Monster Hunter, Pokemon, Metroid and everything else all on the ONE SAME platform. Not spread out.
>>341617851
This what the fuck happened to Nintendo?
Melee alone still has more polish than most western AAA tripe that is released. The sound design and gameplay still put some modern games to shame.
>Melee will never have a true sequel. Platform fighters will never truly take off.
>PS4 level
>250GB harddrive
>standard controller
>option for WiiU gamepad style controller for certain games at £50
>£150 base price
You niggas game?
>>341617050
>When was the last time Reggie said anything of value again?
>not long ago he was shitting on streamings and Let's Player
Answered your own question pal
>>341614819
Yeah because of Schadenfreude
>>341617006
They're not even starting a new gen.
They're extending it with these dumb incremental upgrades which has people pissed.
>>341617187
We already know you're an autist pony.
>>341618345
>150 base price
lol
I swear /v/ is so dumb it's unreal
>299$
>PS4 level of power allowing for multiplats
>Nintendo exclusives
>gimmick that will make it stand out from similarly priced PS4 and XBone and make it sell like hotcakes
You know it's happening.
>>341618254
Exactly. NX is going to be expensive as fuck too.
>>341618405
Not an argument. Stay buttblasted.
I just fucking hope their CPU is good. I fucking hate programming for a console stuck in 2005.
>>341616023
>Gaming overall is shifting towards PC
Wishful thinking
There will always be a market for a box which "just works"
The console market is growing with each new decade
>>341614249
>ps2 looking games vs HD LE NEXTGEN GAMES
>ps2 looking games win
lmao literally going against your own point good job
>>341618439
You know that's pounds and not doll hairs right
>>341613470
So the NX is all but confirmed to be another gimmick system with no 3rd party support like the Wii and Wii U, with a 1% chance of catching on among casuals and becoming a mega-hit like the former and a 99% chance of dying in obscurity like the latter.
>>341617958
How much say does NoA have compared to NoJ when it comes to the direction of their products?
>>341618460
They have no reason to make NX that expensive if they're asking us to upgrade so soon. They'll probably still do it though and I'm sure everyone will eat it up.
>>341616390
>tfw phones are switching to 1440p
>nintendo not even at 480p yet
>>341617448
NX at best will be a little over 2 TF. All it really needs to do is match the current PS4/Xbone in specs since that's where developers will be mostly developing their games on.
Most of them won't even touch Neo and especially Scorpio. Owning a Scorpio is practically useless.
NINTENTODDLERS CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>341618584
And yet there isn't a single mobile game worth playing
>>341618405
>Xbone Scorpio is 4x the strength of the PS4, currently a bigger gap than that of the PS3 and PS4
Say what you want, but that's a new gen
>>341618456
This is the best scenario. They could even drop to 249$ and it would be the Wii all over again.
>>341618491
NX = Nvidia Smarphone cpu
Good luck.
Just hope they crash and burn, they need to go 3rd party and stop forcing their fans to buy overpriced outdated hardware just to play their games. This should be criminal. If they at least made competent hardware that you could use as your main gaming platform it might be worth buying, but I'm so sick of this "Nintendo console for Nintendo games" bullshit.
>>341618540
And it'll have just as bad of droughts as Wii U.
>>341618540
Pretty much, Nintendo knows that their hardware is dying.
This is why they are going mobile and opening theme parks.
>>341618460
yea, Nintendo has a tendency to overcharge system with shitty hardware
I can't believe that there are 3DS that still cost around 200 bucks
no idea how everyone lets Ninty get away with their jewy ass prices
I love how the ps4 and xbone are considered modern when they use 2012 hardware
>>341617497
>d-pad
>major flaw
>counting on a 3rd party to fix it
I don't even have a reaction for this. Just kind of stunned.
>>341617973
I hope not man. After the WiiU, I was pretty damned disappointed with decisions Nintendo made. NX needs quite a bit of restructuring to make me buy it.
If they are targeting to kids again, then they will probably pull that shit off because they don't care as much about specifics on graphics.
But they need to appeal to all audiences, and they need to be able to draw in multiplats.
>>341617960
>>341618198
Nah you guys are wrong and delusional.
>>341618254
>>341618460
but its not about the specs, it's about that glorious experience you cant get anywhere else, r-right?
like m-mario maker, something you could only get on our console
>For us, it's not about the specs
Well it is for the 3rd party developers, you fucking idiot. Why won't Nintendo stop acting retarded, holy shit. There is no "content" when you have a complete lack of 3rd party support through out every year. 2014 is proof that Nintendo can't put out good games, sure. 2015 and 2016 are proof that they absolutely cannot support two or even one console consistently.
>>341618209
>posts on /v/
>laughs at a millionaire CEO
>>341618664
No it isn't. Scorpio is literally just for 4k gaming, will be expensive as fuck and have tiny sales numbers.
Not a single studio will focus on making a game for the scorpio.
>>341618678
Jesus christ
>>341618540
>said the autist
"For us it's not about specs, or gameplay, it's about gimmicks. We really want to recapture the casual market and the mobile gaming audience."
What did Reggie mean by this?
Lets look at history.
>SNES stronger then Genesis
>WON
>64 stronger then PSX
>LOSS
>Gamecube stronger then PS2
>LOSS
>Wii weaker then PS3
>WON
>WiiU weaker then PS4
>LOSS
>GB/C weaker then Gamegear and others
>WIN
>GBA = no real competition
>SOLD TONS
>DS weaker then PSP
>WON
>3DS weaker then Vita
>WON
It's almost like power does not matter. If you ask me, the NX could do extremely well if it can carve out a niche. Make the console a little stronger then the WiiU, but release it CHEAP at $200. Have amazing games that people want, ZeldaWinds, XenoX, Retro Metroid, Smash, Pokemon, bring out all the guns. Pay for exclusive third party games, ala Bayonetta 2. Have a massive digital library, basically if possible release everything the WiiU has, and the Wii, along with new stuff like digital Gamecube games.
Nintendo will never properly compete with the others again, mostly because third party hate them. So Nintendo should do their own thing. So Nintendo fans will still buy the hardware, but you can also get others to consider getting the NX on the side for the couple exclusives they want, if the hardware is cheap enough. I say this as an idort, I think it's the best Nintendo can do.
>>341618661
Just like there isnt a single 3DS game worth playing
>>341617960
The ps3 had free online and backwards compatability, and a shit ton of decent exclusives (especially on the japanese side).
>>341618838
>>341617354
The Genesis CPU fucking smoked the SNES dude
>>341617827
Wii U's got a solid handful of games, outside of that it's been a complete disaster. Moving on as quickly as they can is a good idea, assuming the NX will have backwards compatibility and not shit the bed massive amounts.
>>341618739
In 2014 they promised that Wii U would have strong support for the first half of the year. The only game we got was MK8 in May.
They made the exact same promise in 2015, and the only games we got were that trash Kirby game in March and Splatoon in May.
Now they're asking their fans to upgrade from a console that barely got any games.
Nintendo doesn't give a fuck about their fans and they aren't consumer friendly.
>>341618491
Lmao. Well you're in for a treat my man!
>>341618062
PS4 is only shitting on everyone else because Microsoft and Nintendo fucked up horribly at launch and Sony took advantage of it.
It was never about specs.
It was never about power.
Like never ever ever.
>Accepting that Sony has already won and trying to market to a different consumer base all together.
Smart.
>Same rehashes with no innovations that you released in the 90s. No third party support. Miyamoto ruining everything ala Starfox gate
This is where you need work Nintendo.
>>341618838
All the NX needs to succeed is
1. have no gimmicks
2. be the ONLY platform so Nintendo can put everything they make on it and people have ONE Nintendo platform instead of two with few games on each
That's literally it.
>>341618739
>2014 is proof that Nintendo can't put out good games
can*
>>341618926
How is it bait you retard? He's not wrong.
>>341618926
How is that bait you fucking retard? Are you going to tell me the PS2 was more powerful than the GameCube?
>>341618929
and apparently the Jaguar CPU was suppose to beat the N64 and PS1.
>>341618929
that's all it had over the SNES
literally every other component of the SNES was better
>>341618767
The scorpio won't be able to do 4k gaming lets be real here. Even the 1080 isn't capable of 60FPS 4k yet.
It will definitely make consoles catch up finally to the 1080p 60 fps standard though.
There's nothing wrong with what Reggie said. Specs and glorified PCs are pointless to the nintendo demographic because as much as people want to deny it Nintendo has always been aimed towards families, which includes children, who don't care as much for 4k/60fps as """we""" do.
>>341617312
>Nintendo
>cheap
You will pay 400 bucks for your 480p experience with 20FPS and you will like it.
Don't forget paying 60 bucks* for every game.
*DLC and Amiboo not included
>>341618838
There's a difference between being slightly weaker, and being an entire generation behind though.
>>341618938
I know it's good for them from a business standpoint, but they're still throwing Wii U owners under the bus.
>>341618767
>Literally just a PC with a 6TF card in it like a 1070
>Designed in conjunction with developers like Bethesda and DICE
>"NO ONE WILL DEVELOP FOR IT"
E3 really brings out the retards.
>>341618540
>no 3rd party support like the Wii
Wii has shit loads of 3rd party exclusives and I am not talking about those baby party shovelware
>>341614530
>QTE Mario
>Link trains his son the cinematic experience the game
>Metroid cover tps
Can't wait.
>>341614908
>>341614684
>>341614249
>taking meta critic scores seriously
>>341618991
And they show no signs of doing either. GG.
>>341618991
>have no gimmicks
No one will buy it if it doesn't stand out from PS4/Xbone.
>>341618341
>Platform fighters will never truly take off
That's because they don't compare to Melee, and yes even Smash 4. Which while very different from melee is an extremely good game in itself. The others have been indie clones or half assed attempts. Sakurai always puts effort in to Smash games at the very least.
>>341618956
Rehashes are what sells. Need I remind you of Codename S.T.E.A.M.?
>>341613470
I'll just get the NX handheld.
>>341619120
No one will develop for it because they can't make Scorpio exclusives you retard. They will be restrained by the Xbone so there's no use.
>>341619057
>>341619059
The Genesis CPU difference from SNES was night and day. The Genesis soundchip is arguably better than SNES it's just rarely any developers knew how to utilize it properly. However the SNES had a far wider color palette.
>>341618948
yea, is about not being retarded, Nintendo seems to be retarded for attempting to go for the Wii audience again(according to Ubisoft)
most of the pessimism is going by trends, I would say a good price would justify it but Nintendo is the fucking worst with prices
>>341619236
New IPs sell if theyre good. Splatoon sold gangbusters.
Codename SHIT sold like shit because it's shit.
>>341615347
they made it easier to make games and cheaper to print them
nintendo made more hoops for them to jump through and carts more expensive
Realistically, why should Nintendo bother?
Nintendo fans will buy their games anyway
Either
>Woah best game ever!
or
>This is pretty bad, hope the next one's better, Reggie
They don't give a fuck
>>341618916
>backwards compatability,
Only on some early models. Get your shit right turd
>>341619337
>Splatoon
>good
Ha.
It sold mostly because of its pedo fanbase.
>>341619312
>No one will develop for it because they can't make Scorpio exclusives you retard. They will be restrained by the Xbone so there's no use.
No one is allowed make PS4 Neo exclusives either. Is no one going to develop for that as well?
If it's not about the specs, why even release new consoles? Why not just use the nintendo 64 or the famicom or whatever until the end of the world? Maybe it's because the content is directly tied to the specs?
>people actually buy this shitty excuse
>>341619180
It could do other things that make it different, like real innovation or improvements, that actually makes it better.
>>341619351
sauce
>>341617754
n64 was stronger but due to using carts the storage space was shit and developers didn't want to work on it
>>341619180
What people are failing to realize is the scorpio and neo are only for 4k. As long as the nx is stronger than the ps4/one then its going to be the best because the ps4 and xbox are going to hold back the games graphics. Very few people have a 4k monitor so scorpio and neo are only good for vr and nintendo isnt in the vr race.
So literally as long as the nx is decently spec'd hardware for today, which it should since its been 3 years for tech to improve and amd is selling cards for nothing, then the nx should be the superior console on the market.
>>341619396
You can play PS1 games on all PS3's
Get YOUR facts right
>Nintendo will always be one generation behind thanks to the Wii
>>341619413
>It got 4 million sales from pedos
Fuck off retard.
>make a console Pokemon game akin to the Gamecube ones, or even make it mainline
>you console now sells a guaranteed 10 million early on
>the great start snowballs and you keep going from there
Should I apply to Nintendo and fix this company from the ground up?
>>341618838
When adding Nintendo console development to your project is significantly harder than adding ps4 when you support xbone or pc (or vice versa) due to architecture differences and significant asset tier differences, you are less likely to care about that exoense.
Especially when you expect weaker sales - it is then often not just an opportunity cost, but actually unprofitable.
That is an unfortunately cyclical problem, for which Nintendo must find a clever solution.
Making their platform even more different will likely exacerbate the problem.
Thus, they will once again pursue a strategy of winning by uniqueness.
I doing think anything we have heard about the NX will accomplish that goal in today's consumer market.
I do hope I'm wrong though.
