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Is this game the best in its genre?
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On the Vita maybe
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>poor man's EO
>the best
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>>341606648
>>341606658
console wars are against the rules
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>All that fanservice shoved in your face

Nope
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>>341606770
it's not console wars you fucking retard
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>>341606437
Nope too much pandering
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>>341606437
Its pretty solid. Starts off slow but once you get a few dungeons in, you'll have a lot of optional dungeons open up to you along with each new one getting harder and harder.
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One of the best yes
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>>341606437
go away vitagen
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>>341606437

Arguably the 3rd best DRPG

1. EO
2. Sakura Dungeon
3. Dungeon Travellers 2

Has great customisation but not particularly intuitive. Balance between classes and enemy dmg/abilities feels off in areas. Allows preloading of buffs before a battle but there are few things more frustrating than getting one shot on an ambush.
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>>341609076
How is Sakura Dungeon?
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>>341606986
>literally being homosexual
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>>341609076
>Sakura Dungeon
Stop
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>>341609076
> Sakura Dungeon
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It's like EO except not babby shit and with better aestetics
I love it, 8/10, postgame is fun and has a ridiculous amount of content but has way too many bullshit designs like class doors
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>>341609076
I was taking this post seriously until fucking Sakura Dungeon

1. Etrian Odyssey
2. Demon Gaze
3. Dungeon Travelers 2
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>>341609207

Quite tactical in combat. We have AP (used for abilities) and CP (used for entering flow (massive buff) or panic (massive debuff)).

AP affects accuracy and is spent for attacks. It gives a good balance and allows you to decide to go more defensive to chain attacks while the enemy AP is low (for accuracy) or to try and damage their AP so they can't use their strongest attacks.

CP is gained on a successful hit, lost on a critical hit. At 0 you get panic and at 10 you get flow. Keeping enemies from flow and balancing your CP allows you to fight with precision

Lots of unique traits to your party members too.

One of the better ones for sure even though its cheap and lewd.

>>341609664
>2. Demon Gaze

I loved the lewd but its as untactical as can be. You even have a button to push that skips all the combat text in that round because its just that simplistic.
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>>341609664
What do you like so much abou Demon Gaze?
I thought it was pretty below average. Having a priest in your group lets you auto-battle your way through almost every encounter, every boss fight is pretty much the same where they hide behind 3 rows of summons and auto-heal, and your demons are crazy imbalanced to the point that most of them are only ever useful to get past gimmicks and trap tiles, never to be used in combat.
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>>341606437
What genre?
Virgin pandering? Arguably

DRPG?
Not even close.
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Ray Gigant is better and has swanky animations.
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>>341610304

Any favourites? I'm often willing to try anything from Wizard Renissance to untranslated hentais.
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>>341610304
It's certainly up there in terms of DRPG gameplay, brainwashed puritan
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>>341610654
Ray gigant.
Operation abyss
EO
Dark spire
persona Q
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DUDE PROGRESS RESETTING TRAPS LMAO
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>>341610768
Go away vitagen.

Its not even in the top 20 drpg's.

Gameplay is dogshit. We both know this game wouldnt have sold 10 copies if it wasnt for blatant pandering.
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>>341610774
>>341610669

Is there anywhere I can find rips of the art in DT2?
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>>341610969
Sounds like you haven't played it, or better yet, didn't get to play it
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>>341610378
I like the left one the most.
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>>341611068
Ah yes, here it is, the standard vitagen reply when they know they've been bested.

>b-b-b-but i bet you never played it.

Pathetic.
This is how you know you completely and utterly lost the argument, you had to use unfounded assumptions.
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>>341611325
Yes I've been bested by you asserting it's bad without providing any points as to why, which alone makes it clear you haven't played it, and getting upset by it seems to prove it further
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Surprisingly good game, but it's held back by it's themes and art style, also some type of auto-navigation system like EO or Stranger of Sword City would have been welcomed. Selling (needs bulk sell) and Storage could be better too.
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>>341611462
>still being this pathetic
>still blindly shouting "I BET YOU NEVER PLAYED IT"

All because someone isnt a vitagen cockmonger that agrees with your little circlejerk.
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>>341611516
Excellent bait image
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>>341609946
>>341609076
>Sakura Dungeon

Play DMC, shitposter-san. Sakura Dungeon is a borked, casual version of it.
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>>341611516
I hope you're not expecting anyone to take the opinion of some fuckhead that bought curry saga seriously
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>>341611651
I'm pathetic because I asked for actual reason as to why you think it's bad? I'm sorry if you're so furious that you can't follow with simple logic
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>>341606437
Possibly. It's at least a contender.
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When does it get good?

Just met some qt blue haired nun who told me to go to this tower to find something

I usually enjoy DRPGs, but I'm bored out of my mind right now
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>>341611516
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/0wi-KYFbvt4kcLJVZOd8CA/
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>>341611516
Sorcery Saga was a baby game for babies, but I thought the music was really great and the little skits you got for filling the library were cute.
And the project Diva games are pretty good aside from having to play all the songs on easy/normal mode. But more than anything I wish they had Pop'n Music Portable for the vita. The PSP games were rad.
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>>341611516
>Moe Chronicle
>Rogue Legacy
>Dustforce
>Good

The only good games on the top are f 2nd, D3 even if D4 is superior to it in every way, Totori and Dragon's Crown anyways.

>>341610969
>Its not even in the top 20 drpg's.

But it's in the top 5 according to moonland, fuckface.
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>>341611523
>it's held back by it's themes and art style
Opinion discarded
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>>341611891
Wait until you meet the robot maid and the princess bitch, the dungeon design picks up from there.
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>>341611706
Having played a bit of both, Sakura Dungeon is definitely more casual. But I personally can't say no to the girls
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>>341611782
Gameplay is shallow and devoid of any tactical depth, ontop of being antiquated as fuck.
To fully map an area, you're forced to step on traps
Inexcusable RNG bullshit
Horrendous UI
Laughable monster designs
No plot to speak of
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>>341611980
>according to moonland
>taking nip opinions seriously

I enjoyed the game, but why
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>>341611980
Rogue legacy is a nice game
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>shita
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>>341611761
What can I say? Vitagen told me it was good.
On the plus side, my sister thinks it's cute and fun.

>>341611980
>Dustforce
>Not the single best platformer in the world.

Finally, somebody on /v/ slightly triggered me after 10 years of me being on this site.
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>>341612150
>Gameplay is shallow and devoid of any tactical depth,
How so? It's very high up there objectively, the difficulty ramps up considerably
>Inexcusable RNG bullshit
You've never played a DRPG have you?
>Horrendous UI
>Laughable monster designs
Subjective and incorrect
>No plot to speak of
Correct but unimportant
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>>341611913
That's one dedicated shitposter
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You cant make your own party in it, so no, it cannot be the best of its genre.
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>no mention of Dark Spire
Every time
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>>341611516
>rogue legacy
>good

jesus christ
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>>341612150
>To fully map an area, you're forced to step on traps

This isn't EO.

No plot to speak of

You're playing a DRPG, retard.
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>>341611913
What a sad individual
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>>341612603
But it is
even more for it's pricetag
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>>341612516
Its just Vitagen baiting thread, no way they would actually mention a good game.
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>>341612740
>muh vitagen boogeyman
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>>341612739
No its not good, its a fucking extremely shallow game that tries to be "rogue-lite" but fails in every important way. You just grind grind grind until you are strong enough to take on the castle. You don't have to be good at the game at all, you can just grind until you are strong enough to just keep attacking any boss.
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>>341612739
You can get better games for less. Even Risk of Rain is cheaper.
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>>341612395
I like how you provide NO argument as to how the gameplay isnt shallow. Is that perhaps because you know I'm right?

>defending rng bullshit
There is no other DRPG that has so much rng bullshit as this. You can literally kill yourself because rng said fuck you.
>defending the laughable virgin pandering designs
Yeah, i'm sure that "spider" monster fingering herself is top tier design for a DRPG

>plot doesnt matter
says who? You?

>>341612621
>I HAVE NO ARGUMENT BUT I MUST SCREAM

okay vitard.
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>>341610858
>Ray gigant.
Oh yeah the game where most of the cast is temporary and that can be broken by only leveling up one character. Let's not talk about the level design.

>Operation abyss
Love a completely streamlined class and level up system and the no customization shit
It has good level design I'll give it that

>EO
Not all EO are equal, how about you cite one game in particular, it's going to be funny.

>Dark spire
If you want to cite a DS DRPG at least cite something good like Elminage you idiot

>persona Q
Are you joking? Like really? I'm pretty sure even Persona fans realize it's shit

This is pathetic, if you really think these games are better than DT2 you are obviously out of your mind
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>>341612865
don't you have some EO killers to shill vitagen
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>>341612865
Its pretty apparent when its vitagen baiting. It always starts with a variation of "DT2 is the best dungeon crawler ever". Every single time, just to rile up people.
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>SMT: Strange Journey
I'm thinking about scooping this, or emulating it.

Thoughts?
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>>341610858
>Ray gigant
Soiled it.
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>>341613152
It's good.

>>341613038
>Emilnage
>DS

What? Both are good anyways, fuck off.
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>>341612961
>Risk of Rain
>Plays like shit on the PC
>Plays even worse on the vita
No thanks.
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>>341613152
It's shit.
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>>341606437
Etrian Odyssey IV is an all time great JRPG that puts 95% of the genre to shame. Not to mention EO1 was the game that pioneered this subgenre of JRPGs and hasn't been beaten since.

EOIV offers a steep but rewarding difficulty, outstanding dungeons, pretty good individualization of characters, min/maxing, a shit ton of content, a good overworld and a very good post game. It is a masterclass JRPG that soured me on a lot of JRPG shit I had to endure in the past years.Compared to a lame clone like Dungeon Traveller, EO not only invented the entire genre but innovates and defines it with it's amazing innovations in JRPG gameplay.
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>>341612981
You never provided any argument as to why it was shallow in the first place because you have no mechanical knowledge of it
>You can literally kill yourself because rng said fuck you.
Quit spamming the useless meme joker spells

>implying there is literally anything wrong with a well done fanservice artstyle

And plot is shit across pretty much every DRPG, it's an unimportant aspect regardless.
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>>341613152

it's pretty great yeah
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>>341612981
>I like how you provide NO argument as to how the gameplay isnt shallow. Is that perhaps because you know I'm right?
seeing how you need to sometimes kill and sacrifice your own guys makes it much better than EO's baby grind
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>>341613152
It's fun
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>>341612740
But it never gets mentioned in any thread. Its always either DT or EO and that is it. Stranger of Sword City got a few threads but only because you could customize your characters looks.
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>>341613215
Don't answer me back you fucking retard, the simple fact that you think that Ray Gigant is better than DT2 shows that you are a simple troll or retard
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>>341612017
If the game had a more serious presentation, it would be much better for it. There's no denying this fact, really.

I'm not going to go around docking points and complaining on websites because of "muh pandering" but instead of fruits and titty monsters, maybe they could have tried elevating their product to something they could truly be proud of.
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Will there ever exist a DRPG that will dethrone Etrian Odyssey?
I mean seriously. Nothing has even come close yet.
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>>341613108
Just because someone has an opinion that makes you furious and you have no real argument to provide doesn't mean they're baiting
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Why is it always EO IV vs DT 2?
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>>341613038
And people say Vitagen doesn't exist.
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>>341613281
Risk of Rain still plays better than Rogue Legacy and it's an objectively better game. Platforming roguelites were a mistake anyways, at least the only good rogue-lite to come out in recent memory (One Way Heroics) is getting a Vita version, though.

>>341613373
Nigger I wasn't even that guy, Ray Gigant is fucking trash, I won't argue that.
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>>341613297
>EO invented the genre
I don't like this meme.
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>>341613401
What's wrong with the artstyle at all? It's just as aesthetically as any other. Are you just a brainwashed american puritan?
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>>341613038
>This is pathetic, if you really think these games are better than DT2 you are obviously out of your mind

Every single one of those shits on Censored Travelers 2 though.
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>>341612981
>I like how you provide NO argument as to how the gameplay isnt shallow. Is that perhaps because you know I'm right?
It's no more or less shallow than every DRPG ever made
If anything it's far les braindead than a game where you just end up spamming Dark Ether/etc;.. for the entire game
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MAKE WAY FOR THE NEW KING OF DRPG
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>>341613448
2 of those games are on Vita stupid
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>>341613595
>muh 4 cg edits
You don't have a valid opinion if you haven't played all of the games in question, including EO
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>>341613535
It's just copypasta anon
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>>341613535
>EO release date
>2007
>Dungeon Traveller release date
>2013

Considering how there's no games that exists that's exactly like EO, its safe to say it goddamn invented the genre.
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>>341613424
has anyone has made a real argument as of why DT2 is even good
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>>341613504
Then I'll just say that Elminage does have a DS version, the best DRPG on the console by a wide margin
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>>341613215
>>341613285
>>341613321
>>341613331

3/4 good shit.
I'm fairly new to PC gaymen. Is DS emulation good shit? Or should I just get a physical?
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>>341606437
Yes, much better than EO3 or 4.
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>>341613710
I've played more DRPG's than you though, my ass hurt friend.
DT2 is factually shit.
The entire thread has agreed it's shit too, it's just you all on your own trying your best to defend it.
The censorship is just the cherry on top of the shit pie.
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>>341613654
>Compile Heart
nice try vitagen
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>>341613843

DS emulation is OK in terms of performance and compatibility.
On a game that uses the touch screen more often for inputs I'd recommend you to get a DS/3DS and a flashcart; but in Strange Journey it functions mainly as a static map, so emulation is fine.
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>>341613790
Some people believe that unironically though. Like this guy >>341613793
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japanese gameplay
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>>341613965
I think the only bad thing about emulating SJ is that sometimes letters get cut a bit
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>>341613883
So you just admitted you haven't played it on top of not providing any legitimate arguments as to why it's shallow or shit aside from namecalling, simply because you have no mechanical knowledge of it

Also the localization for EO4 was more censored/changed
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>>341613828
>Lots of classes
>Great dungeon design
>Amazing boss battles that are different every time
>Good customization system
>Fun characters
>Great skill system that forces you to use skills from the beginning of the game and still manages to be relevant in the end
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>>341613883
>I've played more DRPG's than you though, my ass hurt friend.

Motherfucker I beat Wizardry IV without a guide as a 10 year old, you've got nothing. DT2 is a good DRPG, fuck off.
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Loving how mad EO babbies always get when DT2 is mentioned.
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>>341613436
Maybe people who like DT 2 have to compare it to the worst EO in order to make it seem like the better game.
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>>341614008
I know this is hard to do, but just ignore the person
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>>341614083
kill yourself pcuck
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>>341614125

I still don't know what's so good or bad about it. All I see is shitflinging on either side with no mention of mechanics.
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>>341613436
Those are the most commonly played dungeon crawlers and it makes for easy console war bait.
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>>341614095
Wow, EOIV sounds pretty great
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>>341614036
>This is a dragon
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>>341613424
Lots of classes allow you to tinker with party composition. The post game is pretty expansive and has interesting dungeons.
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>>341613965
Cool cool. I'll take a look and see if they have a PCSX2 type thing where there's a page that shows any issues for the game.
>>341614070
Gonna look into this and see how bad it messes with the legibility.
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>>341613504
>Risk of Rain still plays better than Rogue Legacy
No it doesn't.
Risk of Rain is garbage in comparison and can be broken by just farming boar beach forever.
The game doesn't even get remotely difficult even when you use honor, spite, glass and sacrifice artifacts.
3/4 of the characters are brokenly easy to play because they all have invincibility frames out the ass, and loader himself just straight up gets invincibility every few seconds.

Rogue Legacy shits on it. It has a better OST too.
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>>341613553
It's presentation is juvenile and reeks of otaku-pandering kusoge. It's always a good idea to avoid these types of games at first glance because who likes wasting money on a horny-level baiting shovelware? Luckily, it wasn't an outright deterrent for me in this case because I ended up buying it months after the fact (after much deliberation, since I didn't want to hassle a refund) and found that there's a pretty good game lying underneath.
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>>341614340
This is a Japanese skeleton.
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>>341614251
Just vitagen being assmad at the 3DS for having great games again.

No point in arguing with them, they're absolutely delusional.
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>>341614036
This is a dungeon crawler highly praised by Vitagen. Amazing.
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>>341613654
Are the girls more balanced this time? I didn't like how the beginning girls were so weak compared to the ones you get later on. Seeing my qt Orc struggling to pull her weight while the newer members do just fine was soul crushing.
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>>341614328
Just remove fun characters and you'd be right

Though DT2 doesn't have any either honestly
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>>341614192
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>>341614095
>Fun characters

They will never be as fun as the characters I make myself.
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>>341614414
That sounds like a personal opinion and reeks of puritan american brainwashing.
There is literally nothing wrong with fanservice artstyles, I'm sorry if you're too underaged to understand this or provide a legitimate argument besides "girls are icky"
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>>341613038
>OA
>no customization

Vitagen please leave.

>implying any EO is bad
Vitagen please leave.

>personaQ is bad
Its literally just EO with persona, no need to be buttmad because you got a shitty dancing game with no content instead of a good game
Vitagen please leave.

>dark spire is bad
Vitagen please leave.
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>>341614251
If you really want to know, dungeon design from mid to postgame is really good, build variety is decent enough, the combat system always stays fun due to the way your skills work against different types of enemies and the amount of content in the game is pretty insane.
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>>341614558
I can't tell if this is falseflagging anymore
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>Mfw the vita cannot beat the 3DS in a single genre.
What went wrong?
All those DRPG's and they're all shit compared to EO.
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>>341613315
So your only defense for this inexcusable bullshit is "lol just dont use this entire class lol"

Ebin.
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>>341613654
Don't you mean Queen?
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>>341614420
who designed this awful UI
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>>341614125
this. every fucking time
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>>341614723
Don't level up an obviously useless ability, Joker is still arguably one of the best classes late game
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>>341614740
drpgs always have shit UI
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>>341614664
Vitagen please leave
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I wish EOV was out so these threads would stop
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>>341614420
Is this DT?
I haven't played it but lmao at that ugly as fuck UI.
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>>341613553
The fact that the game thrives on it's complete and utter unshamed sexism is pretty bullshit. The fact that the game design is marred by the continuous barrage of sexualised underage girls who fit into stereotypical outdated tropes on how women should act is one reason why dungeon traveller 2 and all the games on the Vita will never be successful and hated on /v/.

Compare this to EO4 where the monster design denotes a sense of danger and adventure and breaks the mold in terms of design. The women are not sexualised in any way but treats them with respect and care.

There's one major reason why EO4 is a superior game than DT2.
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>>341614696
Why's that, because you said so? People keep presenting them but you have no argument other than "I only played EO so there"

EO4 is pretty shit compared to older versions tbqh
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>>341614465
So?
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>>341614930
Maybe all the moe trash do
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>>341614095
>lots of classes
objectively wrong, and most of them are pretty much the same
>great dungeon design
lol
>amazing bosses that are different
lol
>good customization
there is literally zero customization
>fun characters
Subjective, and also wrong. InB4 b-b-b-but muh cliché ditzy gurl is fun
>great skill system
lol. 90% of skills arent worth using.
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>>341614740
STING. Are you new to their games?
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>>341615047
then post one with good UI
i double dare you
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>>341614420
HOW DARE YOU IMPLY THAT THIS isNT GOTYAY ENEMY DESIGN

DT2 IS THE BEST DRPG EVER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>341615105
>this is a gameboy game
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>>341615002
Neogag is here
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>>341614973
I wish EOV had good portraits like 3. It looks like it's going the same way as 4 where the only difference between the 2 portraits is hairstyle.
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>>341615002
You can't be serious with this post
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>>341614978
Yes. This is the game vitagen praises as "the best DRPG of all time"

>>341614930
Implying.
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>>341612516
it's shit. completely trashes the wizardry formula
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>>341615156
Even Wizardry's simplistic one is miles better
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>>341614894
I hope you're not referring to Trump Card as a useless ability. It's an incredibly powerful skill.
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>>341615002
Typical EO babby or epic bait shitpost. Cant really see the difference between these two though.
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You have 30 seconds to explain why you're not an Idort like myself.
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>>341615467
yeah this kind of looks like shit
was hoping you'd post something like legend of grimrock
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>>341614420
Simple. Sleek. Perfect.
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>>341614036
jesus christ those tits look horrible
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>>341615467
>Simplistic
toppest kek
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>>341615068
Classes play largely differently, there is a colossal difference between an etolle and a samurai
>there is literally zero customization
>lol. 90% of skills arent worth using
>muh cliché ditzy gurl is fun
How to tell someone hasn't played it
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>>341614420
It's good to see that Philia found another adventure to go on after ToD.
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>>341614978
Eo ui is just as bad
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>>341615545
My nigga

Though I don't have SoSC
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>>341615575
>doesn't denote class
>doesn't show turn order
>useless info like time and level displayed
yeah sure buddy
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>>341615575
My eyes
Jesus christ that color alone is grating
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>>341615545
Neat collection, man.
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>>341615574
I can't dig its aesthetic
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>>341615575
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>>341615651
No it isn't. See >>341615575
It's minimalistic.
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>>341612516
oh really?
>>341610858
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>>341615545
>That boxed Dark Spire

You motherfucker. I'm going to replay that as soon as I finish DQ 5.
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What's with this vitagen boogeyman?
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>>341615545
because I dont blindly buy dogshit games just to prove a point?

Is this a serious question or are you just legit retarded?
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>>341615545
why hasn't Atlus remade SMT I and II for the 3DS
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>>341615879
Dumb conslewars bullshit
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>>341615784
>sandoval
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>>341615918
iOS onry
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>>341615879
There's a serious effort over at /vg/ to make people support Sony and the Vita
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>>341615791
There's a difference between minimalistic and not showing necessary information
If it was togglable information it would be one thing, but not showing turn order takes away strategy makes it an effective RNGfest
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>>341616042
But even vitagen knows the Vita is dead.
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>>341606437
I bet you're the same person that says every other game sucks. My god, it all makes sense. you're just a bunch of biased weebs. lol as if i took your opinion serious before I knew this. the reassurance is very nice though.
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>>341615879
it's vita in general
I mention vita to my friends and they all laugh and say "that's even a thing"
It's a joke console that a lot of people are going to miss out on.

At least there's no competition for Nintendo next gen so all the Vita games will end up on nintendo systems and console war bullshit will end.
as long as mobiles don't actually kill handheld
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>>341615879
>biggest shitposters on /v/
>cant have a decent 3DS thread without them coming in to shitpost
>nonstop threads shitposting on the 3DS to compensate for their dead handheld

Nobody on /v/ likes Vitagen and the Vita for a reason.
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>>341616042
Other way around actually
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/0wi-KYFbvt4kcLJVZOd8CA/
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Anyone that legitimately thinks any EO game is better than DT2 is an obvious fanboy and didn't play through more than the first dungeon of DT2.
And if anyone thinks demon gaze is better is literally mentally challenged.
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>>341616115
>tfw nintendo will finally kill the mobile market
just kill me now
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except for the dungeon, skill and class design almost everything I've seen of DT2 looks like hot garbage.

I bought Stranger of Sword City cause artstyle A is everything I want from a DRPG. It's nice to have a choice of multiple dungeons all the time, the plot is interesting and the faction system is pretty neat. But goddamn if the class system isn't simplistic as hell. The LP system is barely relevant as well, though I actually like having party members rotate in and out of the roster all the time.
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>>341616115
I think they already have started. F/GO and Granblue probably pull in more money than any other handheld game atm.
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>>341616063
Being shown turn order is absolute cancer, ESPECIALLY in DCRPGS.

>Get to see literally everything that will happen so there is literally no surprises ever.
>Game becomes nothing but micromanaging your turns to have the absolute maximum efficiency.
>Don't get punished for making bold moves because you get to see who goes next.

Turn order display is cancer.
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>>341616146
I have literally never seen that happen, and have only ever seen vita threads swarmed with shit like this >>341616146
I'm only talking from a neutral perspective but what are you smoking
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>>341616249
>except for everything that matters
okay kid
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>>341616249

Post more of pyramidtits
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>>341615598
>melee and buffer play different
no shit dipshit

There is however little to no difference between a samurai and a dark lord or samurai
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>>341616295
>taking out strategy and adding in le random death elements is better
What the fuck
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Will compile hearts new drpg be any good?
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>>341616249
>being a brainwashed puritan and buying stranger of meme city instead of the objectively better and obviously praised alternative
You deserved it
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Will the Vita go the way of the Saturn and be loved years later?
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>>341616523

Looks pretty stylish.
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>>341616307
hey look, its the legendary vitagen victim complex

>WE DINDUNUFFINK
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>>341616523
>CH
No.
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>>341616523
Looks better than every other DRPG on the Vita so I hope so
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>>341616447
>Strategy equates to knowing when and what will come to you at all times.

I'm literally laughing.
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>>341616618

It'll be one of those consoles that's recognised as only being worthwhile for importers, yes.
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>>341616523
CH has never made a good game, so no.
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>>341616523
It's already looking a shit ton better than DT2 and Demon Gaze
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Of course people don't like DT2 on here. Its not on the 3DS or PC.
If it was released on PC tomorrow there would be 4 threads up about it calling it the greatest DRPG ever.
3DS fanboys are literally 10 so they've never played a drpg besides EO.
And PC mustards are so assblasted about anything not on PC they'll shitpost them to death.
Feels good being an idort and not having blind fanboyism run through my blood.
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>>341616658
I said this is from a neutral perspective, but taking two seconds to look through the archive can tell you that you're blatantly lying
see >>341616191
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Why in flying fuck is dungeon travelers 2 50$? I wanted to pick it up when it came out but decided to wait till it drop 10~20$ in a year or two and the price went up for god knows why. Who the fuck would pay more than 40$ for a vita dungeon crawler?
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>>341616618
are Saturn lovers obnoxious as hell
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>>341612936
You can do that but I thought it was a lot of fun.

Made for an amazing week or so a few years ago
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>>341616249
>except for the dungeon, skill and class design almost everything I've seen of DT2 looks like hot garbage.
You realize that dungeons, skill and class design is everything that matter in a DRPG, right?
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>>341616936
no
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>>341614420
CHERRI
BOOOOOOOIIIS
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>>341616846
>tfw still called fanboy even though I own every console but xbone
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>>341616658
You were having a victim complex literally one post ago you underaged dipshit
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>>341616925
Because it has over 150 hours worth of increasingly difficult content.
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>>341616523
Divine Prison Tower: Mary Skelter, it's on my radar along with Coven and Labyrinth of Refrain, but both are from questionable studios
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>>341616769
>Compile heart
>improves their gameplay every release
>successful and growing enough to hire ex-tales developers, ex-Nippon Ichi developers and other great developers in japan.

Compile Heart will be a A class Publisher in a few years soon enough.
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>>341616925
I believe Gamestop (least in SC) has dropped it down to 30 for a new copy.
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>>341616846
okay Vitagen
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>>341616846
>us idorts right xD
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>>341617039
>>341617056
Literal shitposting.
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>>341617027
>>improves their gameplay every release

When will this meme die? Get the fuck out, nepgen.
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>>341617018
Okay, now give us a serious answer
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>>341616925
Atlus tax

Better wait for a sale on the PSN
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>>341616846
I'm and idort and DT2 just isnt that great.
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>>341616925
GameStop has it for 19.99 burgers as of price-change Wednesday (Yesterday), hurry.
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>>341616971
Disagree. Art style and atmosphere are extremely important to dcrpgs.

Legend of Grimrock 2
SMT Strange Journey
Dark Spire.

These are some of the absolute best. Notice anything? They're not filled with kawaii uguu bullshit.
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>>341617027
>improves their gameplay every release
They almost improved with VII but then went back to being dogshit with seha and geki blanc
Never trust kusoge heart
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>>341617018
You do realize they don't pay you unless you reach a certain word minimum.
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>>341616925
It was on sale regularly for less than $20 on PSN.
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>>341617039
why does everyone keep fucking saying vitagen this and vitagen that
those fucks keep to /vg/
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>>341617181
So what is? And don't say EO because we all know that isn't true
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>>341617181
You must not have played it right then
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>>341617260
>if you think dt2 isn't good then you can't like eo either

WEW
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>>341617207
That's subjective. For the target fanbase it's much better objectively
>implying the dark spire even had an artstyle to speak of
You only care because of muh socially acceptable puritan mindset
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>>341617207
Okay Mr. Sixteen Year Old.
DT2 has better dungeon design and gameplay than all three of those.
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>>341616523
That looks like some cool ass Persona spinoff
How come Nep environment looks like shit even though they reuse everything to death
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>>341617207
Grimrock 2 isn't even as good as the first, dude.
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>>341617181
You're entitled to your opinion even if I disagree with it
lmao get gud faget
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>>341617021
Refrain looks better, regardless, and between CH and N1 I'd still say N1 are better developers bogged down by Disgaea DLC and a shit american wing.
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>>341617481
they're kusoge, you're not supposed to put in any effort
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>>341613436
Because if we brought up the other EO games, the comparison would not be fair.
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>>341617248
>>341617152
Okay. So you guys have never played it then. You've also never played any of the post game dungeons as well. So you literally have no valid opinion on the game. Look up gameplays or what people say about the game. It takes on average 150 hours to finish all the postgame dungeons.
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>>341616343
Sure there is.

Valkyrie buffs and blocks the team, Samurai does status effects, Dark Lord goes through Defenses. They play completely differently.

Explain how they are the same?
>THEY ATTACK!!
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>FOE equivalent pursues you in real-time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKmXylSg-38
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>>341617476

It really doesn't. Unless you only own vita, I guess.
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>>341617807
kill yourself
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