who here /hype/ for GOTY 2017?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iObwq1WaxQ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P8AYtiaaFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obO5sbziqjM
Did they improve sieges?
All I want is the map editor, I've spent far too much time putting together maps in other games editors and whatnot and this one looks incredible.
>>341576004
literally the first link
Press F to pay respects
>>341576004
They added more options, whether that's a good thing or not is up in the air.I'm just a scared Rhodok, castles are all we have
>>341575921
sauce on the 2017 date?
>>341576420
It's not guaranteed of course but it's safe to say the full release will be early 2017
>>341575921
Combat looks great, shame the environments are still as shitty as in M&B1.
>>341576506
>shame the environments are still as shitty as in M&B1
How do you figure, anon? Graphically the game has come a long way from Warband
>>341576505
>in players hands goal
Translation: early access
>>341576712
The other two games in the series were done that way
What will you name your first custom weapon, /v/?
Looks pretty good, glad they improved sieges. Hope it will run on my toaster.
>>341575921
>2017
if only
>>341576927butterblade
>>341576927
polearms were useless in close combat i hope they'll try to make them decent
fucking awesome
*10 ruppees doposited to your account*
As happy as I am for butterlord I'm glad that For Honor has a release date not too far off.
I want to be the Bannerlord :3
Game Of Thrones mod when?
Literally the best mod for warband.
>>341578257
>You stumble and fall!
cant wait to be a scummy criminal with my gang
>>341578150
I wonder if they'll keep the same menu
Would be cool if there was an option in game to change it to different factions
>>341576689
M&B1 suffered greatly from the environments being "basic geometry with a boring single texture tiled all over the place". It appears that M&B2 will have the same problem.
This game has been in development longer than Half Life 3, and it's worse because they've been showing things off for the past 10 years too making the wait unbearable.
>>341577843
Shit yeah, senpai. That game looked awesome.
>>341578768
>"basic geometry with a boring single texture tiled all over the place"
Can't argue with that. I'm not sure if Bannerlord will have the same issue though. Have you seen the engine/map editor video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obO5sbziqjM
>we have to wait until 2017 to genocide the Battanians
can't come soon enough desu
Doesn't look like they improved on the combat itself. I mean the siege stuff looks nice and all but if it's just blocks and those retarded chambers I'm not really impressed.
>>341576004
they'll still play out the same very single time so no.
For Honor or Kingdom Come Deliverance or this?
>>341580173
>just blocks and those retarded chambers
sounds like you're just shit my man
memes aside, I am curious how you would improve the combat while retaining it's uniqueness
>>341580110
>Work in progress
I fucking hope so, it looks dreadful.
>>341580341
>just slap dark souls combat on it
Amirite?
>>341580329
isn't For Honor le epic samurai/knights/vikings meme? either way all three of the games you're talking about are really different
>>341580341
All they need to do is give better hitboxes to weapons and armour like War of the Roses and then create an ai that fights from a proper distance rather than trying to hug you at all times.
>>341580329
Kingdom Come Deliverance and this. If you can only choose one Bannerlord is the only option.
Hell I'd easily choose Warband over those other two.
>>341576004
retard
>>341580738
That's reasonable. I haven't played WOTR so I can't comment on that. AI definitely needs improvement as well. We've seen a few examples of battle/campaign AI but nothing very specific about the abilities of individual bot AI yet.
>>341580341
4 direction attacks with no varying speed, no opportunity to intentionally wear your opponent down, no stamina either, chambers are a good idea but not when you can cancel animations, and should directly be tied to an attack direction, footwork is non existent unless you want to bring the speed from cavalry into it because having your walking speed be reduced to paraplegic levels over the slightest incline is laughable.
It's not the worst out there but I'm beyond shocked at the praise it gets for being as bad as it is.
>>341580341
add a stamina bar
>>341580329
For Honor for multiplayer
Mountain blade for single player
Forget kingdom come, just stop. And don't bring chivalry or Mordhau into this either.
Who's the Vaegir equivalent in M&B 2?
>>341580967
>>341580997
>stamina
>>341581057
Sturgians
I wish they'd use historically accurate combat in this one
>>341580946
WoTR was great in many aspects. For example many enclosed helmets had visors that the player could raise for better visibility but then that area of the face was totally unprotected and the hitboxes were good enough to exploit that.
Polearms were also more nuanced as you had to properly space yourself from your target so that you hit them with the small head of the weapon as contact with the pole instead would do no damage.
Other than polishing details like that I don't think the combat itself can be improved.
>>341580738
This would work quite well, major problem with warband is the hitboxes for weapons, can't even do tight formations because of it.
That siege gameplay is interesting and all, but why is it always assaults? It should be viable to actially siege a castle
>>341581121
fuck larp autists
>>341581113
>I should be able to pull a 120# bow with the same accuracy across 90 arrows within a 4 minute timeframe.
>>341576927
TheMountain Blade
>>341581183
It could very well be. The option is already there in warband it just doesn't work properly. It's not the kind of thing that they would put in gameplay trailers.
>>341581207
>larp
I said historically accurate
>>341581316
The fuck do you think reenactment societies do? Do you think all LARP is throwing magic missiles at each other?
>>341581431
>it's historically accurate as soon as no fantasy is involved
fuck off retard
>>341580967
For instance a thrust. You simply block a thrust with a downward block. Thrust to the face? Downward block. Thrust to the feet? Same downward block, no need to reach or time, hardly even aim either.
Polearms and shields are a joke in M&B. You have to drop your destroyable shield to attack, the shaft is indestructible lolwat, no push/pull advantage for 2 handed.
If you want to get pissy over stamina the least you could do is address any of the other multiple issues with the stale combat.
I really like Bonerlord and I'm hyped as fuck but this is 100% shilling. You could stand to be more subtle.
>>341580967
>4 direction attacks with no varying speed
this has actually been changed, you can see on weapon stats like here >>341576927 there's a value for thrust speed and swing speed
>no opportunity to intentionally wear your opponent down
what
>no stamina either
that's a good thing
>chambers are a good idea but not when you can cancel animations
why does feinting make chambers bad?
>and should directly be tied to an attack direction
I don't understand what you mean here
>footwork is non existent [...]
oho anon please, if you think that you really haven't played much MP
>>341581582
there is no shilling for M&B everybody wants it, it's just hype
>>341581672
this desu
>>341580738
WotR was shit though. Played it for a while.
>>341580967
Man I don't even know where to start with this post. Footwork and turning to vary the moment when the attack connects are the two central things you do in M&B.
Threadly reminder that Warband is the most feminist game ever made. You get shit on from every direction as a woman but can still make it. I hope they keep that in.
>>341581582
>100% shilling.
GET FUCKED!! the shit is real
>>341582127
>when you realize the world of mount and blade is just turkey
aren't we suppose to be getting more butterlord information today?
>>341582192
>when you post like a nigger on twitter
>>341582194
yeah, taleworlds is at the twitch booth or some shit at e3
no idea when they're presenting though
>>341582271
>When you got shot by a rhodok crossbowman for being a racist scumbag
>>341576374
>proto-rhodoks get the best ballistas
Heard it here first.
>>341581653
>thrust and swing speed
That's good to hear, a step in the right direction.
>no opportunity...
We could refer to them as jabs, have you ever been in a fight with weapons? Blocking and swinging is taxing work. As it stands I can enter the arena as a swadian with a great sword and swing until my heart is content and block above my head without penalty. This ties into stamina and you haven't persuaded me that it's a bad direction for the game to go. It wouldn't be that bad of a trade off either as overhead swings do more damage and strike the head (many players don't wear helmets in MP) but as it stands I can be outnumbered 3v1 and block 3 simultaneous overhead strikes without so much as having my block need to reset. How is that NOT a problem?
>feinting
No, animation canceling. Chamber left, animation cancel overhead swing, repeat. Doesn't seem like you're too savy in MP yourself.
>shouldN'T be tied to a directional attack
Drop chambers, add a couple parry frames to the block animation, again with the penalty of stamina to discourage spamming anything you've virtually fixed every problem with it.
>footwork is non existent
Slight damage buff/reduction for forward/backward movement, I stand by my statement (ommiting cavalry which is another can of worms we could get into)
Why would you even play this game in MP when Chivalry's way better.. well, used to be way better before the devs caved to the casuals and added cancelling. Whoreband's for single player.
>>341582427
>chambering
Chambering is meant to be like hitting your opponents attack away with your own. It shouldn't have anything to do with blocking. Unless I misunderstand you.
>Slight damage buff/reduction for forward/backward movement
This already exists in the form of the speed bonus/malus you get for movement. I do agree cavalry needs work though.
>>341582730
because chivalry is bad
>>341582730
because chivalry isn't as good as mountain blade
>>341582730
get a load of this guy
>>341577617
>he's a pikefag
>>341582807
>chambering
It isn't your attack frames that block it. That's not how shit works unless it's a parry which would make more sense to be intentionally defensive (read: blocking) . Then give the opponent you parried a small stagger and CHOOSE the attack direction you want rather than having that already locked in unless you animation cancel.
>>341583386
anon I have no idea what you're saying anymore
>>chambering
>It isn't your attack frames that block it.
that's exactly what chambering is, blocking an enemy's attack with your own, except as opposed to a normal block you get a free swing unless your opponent can block fast enough
Did they announce a release date? It better be 2016 and not 17. What the fuck is taking them so long? They made a gajillion dollars. Fuckin' Christ. Is it really that hard to hire underlings and direct them?
>>341583675
Q1 17
>>341583675
>>341576505
developing a new game engine takes a while anon
>>341575921
Will they bring back Zendar?
You know, that one neutral city from beta versions of m&b. It was supposed to be destroyed by sea riders some time before original release of m&b.
I hope we get some cool new modes for MP.
I'd like it if Commander Battles from NW (I think WFAS had them too?) make it into Bannerlord.
>>341583957
Probably not
>>341583654
The readying motion is what chambers it. Have you even played the game?
>>341584076
anon pls it's 4 am I can't be bothered thinking about the specifics of M&B combat techniques, I barely even play anymore
I'll drop it if you will.
I wonder how exactly the kick works in Bannerlord now. In the siege video some Vlandian gets BTFO over the wall.
>>341584056
Aw, that's kinda bummer.
I don't know why I feel extremely nostalgic about Zendar and those Black Knights form m&b betas.
>>341581241
You're right anon! We should have to wait at least 15 seconds between every 10 arrow shots and swing only 4 times every minute! Because that isn't a stupid fucking mechanic at all.
Go back to Dark Souls
>>341584454
Looks like it works exactly the same
>>341584595
Yeah but in Warband when you kick you can only block in certain directions while in the kicking animation, can't move for a certain amount of time, and the hitbox can get pretty weird. I just wanna know the details for it. It looks like it pushes the person who gets kicked further back as well.
>>341584560
I'm not implying it should step down a few notches to souls level PVP.
To say that m&b's combat is some monumental standard that should be held in high regard is laughable. The fact it has hardly improved over 6 (+) years is a joke. Feel free to bring up any counter points to my previous arguments though.
>>341582192
Yeah because it has bodies of water on 3 sides right?Good deduction,anon:^)
>>341584712
Nah I'm serious it looks like it hasn't changed at all
except maybe for the hitboxes but we have only seen one kick so far so we can't know for sure
>>341584878
senpai just because you don't think it's perfect doesn't mean it isn't good or isn't better than many other combat systems out there
we also don't know how much has improved or stayed the same yet anyway
>>341585160
It's easily exploitable, anon. Not to God mode status but if I can go 45ish- 2ish consistently in MP I feel there's something wrong.
We'll drop agree to disagree because I don't see you changing my mind and I won't magically get the game to change by expressing my concerns and alternatives.
Did you watch the 30 minute gameplay video? The first encounter with looters in the woods having the character dismount. The archery looks pretty fluid, did you notice any changes?
So basically Warband but with better graphics and some other new features?
Sold
>>341582730
Because Chivalry is cheap ripoff with less features
>>341585753
This everythign everyone wnated better graphics and better sieges.
>>341581046
>For Honor for multiplayer
Mountain blade is going to have better multi than that shit
>>341585881
Don't bother replying to chivalry babies
>>341582127
Could Harlaus still be alive!?!
>>341585967
For Honor has systems in play that reward playing matches over time rather than just gold in a single game.
The two are so far from similar I don't think we can have much more discussion.
>surrender or die
Do you think you'll actually see anyone surrender ? What about the death of lords?
Literally thank you God for this. We don't deserve it.
>>341586203
Bannerlord is a prequel to Warband. So maybe you meet his ancestor
>>341575921
I only hope they let people create units within the army that can be controlled with different commands
>press O
>press 123
>Units selected
>press F/V/R
>units charge/Hold position/follow
>>341583150
no but sometimes i'd like to use somethin else than axes and sword
>>341575921
Is it going to be even more sandbox like?
Can I literally walk a kilometer forward, then side step two kilometers northward and then jump eastward two times just because its possible?Can I legitimately cause an extinction event?
reminder that turkey wouldnt exist in 2017
>>341586524
Spears are good
Poleaxes are good
Bardiches are good
So are most of the swinging polearm
The only bad polearms on foot are lances and pikes but even then you can still make pikes work
>>341586450
Can't you do this now?
>>341586591
No.
>>341586694
I dont think so
I think you can tell x type of unit inf/archers/cav to do something but you cannot divide in a menu your army into units and bind keys to select them or at least assign a behavior to them (Aggressive/defensive/whatever)
It would make hte game so much better. No more blobs
>>341576927
Penis without a vagina
>>341587071
You have like three custom groups man
>>341587071
I think you can do that with mods, but not in vanilla.
I hope horse archers have decent ai his time.
Going full mongol when the game comes outm
>>341582730
>Why would you even play this game in MP when Chivalry's way better
>well, used to be way better before the devs caved to the casuals and added cancelling
Kind of answering your own question there mate
>>341587132
Well i remember when the game was unkown that the commands were extremely rudimentary and the AI wasn't prepared to obey them. if you told them to stick together they would form a square and move in any direction facing always towards the enemy side
I hope they work on the AI or enable modders to do what i described.
The main problem with the game is that when therea re too many units, when it starts to feel like an army battles come down to dudes blobbing in a sole place
>>341587283
Horse archers are bad because half the time they don't even spawn with bows lmao
Hopefully the modding capability will be very good.God damn I just want a fucking Necromancer & Lich mod where I use the corpses of my enemies to increase my undead slave numbers
I could play Total Warhammer, but Turn-Based is not my favorite thing in video games.
>>341586694
>>341586743
Yes, you can create individual units and bind them to 4-9
>>341580110
>not reenacting the Battanian Dominion
I bet you play Warband on 15% difficulty too.
>>341587618
The devs love the modding, they're really focusing on it as well, like that dev diary about terraforming and landscapes.
>>341587523
Huh they do spawn with bows anon its just that they don't have a skirmish AI like the horse archers in the AD 1257 mod have.
>>341587938
They spawn with javelins half the time
>>341587938
I hate when one mod has some advanced floris shit and another got totally different options
>>341587898
The brains of my enemies will become my pillows and their bones will become the skeletal support beams of my bed, and their skin will become my mattresses, their flesh will become the bedding, their eyes will become my new testicles, and their scalps will become wigs for a ginormous ball of scalped scalps.
And from the most beautiful of corpses, I will craft my undead bride, raise her as my 2nd in command and rule the world with The Undead as the most supreme beings of them all!
>>341575921
>2017
What the fuck is the point of calling it E3 2016 when all the games in there are going to published next year
>>341588386
Play Dominions then
>tfw all you wanted was better sieges and diplomacy
>tfw that's exactly what we'll get
>tfw no more 100 troops trying to climb on one ladder/siege tower
>>341588576
Not until there's a better looking one.
>>341588661
Casual
>>341586694
Sortof but you're limited, for instance you cant split swadian knights into two wings
>>341588754
>not wanting extreme detail on an atomic level
>>341588902
I'd just play DF then
I hope we'll get a unit customization like in wf&s
What I want is more inconsequential shit to do in towns, and more social options, akin to Bethesda games. I like to be able to roleplay a character, and towns have always felt so shallow in M&B. I want to be able to sit, drink, and interact with the environment some.
Wonder if I'll get my wish.
>>341589569
They already showed that you can do most of that. Even build a criminal organization in towns.
>>341584025
Commander Battles are pure sex. They would be stupid not to include them now that they have massively improved the unit control UI.
>>341582373
>>341576374
Proto-Rhodoks are Vladians who are also Proto-Swadians
>>341582730
Chivalry is a decent game but its certainly not better than M&B
>>341584878
Nothing that you've put forward as a possible adjustment has anything to do with game balance. There's no stamina because it keeps the game moving-it allows players to take on multiple opponents, it keeps things fun. Stamina is the last thing is want in m&b. It also really sounds like you haven't played mp, or weren't very good at it, combat in mp is extremely dynamic and tactical, and even a basic understanding of it squashes your first set of complaints.
I agree with your issues with single player ai though.
Basically if you want to play another game like chiv go ahead and so, as it is you're posing features that would completely change the game, and acting like they're just "improvements"
What is it that attracted such different fan bases to chiv and MB?
>>341591138
Chiv is garbage tier motion sickness inducing bullshit and I go 45-2 using a foot soldier consistently.
I know what I'm talking about and have spent a long time getting as good as I am. The amount of nonsense the current system permits is easily fixable without ruining the fun. I shouldnt be able to charge 5-8 men and make them look like it's the first time they've played multiplayer.
>>341584076
Alright, chambering in MnB isnt as big as you think it is, if you can read someone, then chambers will help, but alot of people cant chamber. And putting a single animation for chambering is kinda dumb. Your losing options on combat, sometimes you need to block another guy after you chamber, a single animation locks you into attack for too long. Experienced players will just hit you while you cannot block.
Dont think its a good idea anon, it limita qhat you can do.
>>341591669
Hence why I suggested giving your BLOCK command PARRY FRAMES.
>>341591669
See
>>341583386
This would give you more adaptability and a benefit toward fighting multiple people defensively . Coupled with a stamina (I know you naysayers can't fathom other games before demons souls using one) to prevent the chucklefuck last man standing in TDMs from trying to prolong the match for lulz.
>>341591559
Why not? I agree chiv is atrocious, which is why I'm wondering why you'd have m&b move in that direction. You seem to be saying there should be a cap on how destructive a player can be and I don't understand why.
>>341592867
I'm not saying it should move in the direction of chiv. Don't give loadouts and pidgeonhole folks into certain viable strategies. Don't give special abilities to characters. Don't restrict soldiers from picking up bows or archers from picking up swords. You want to focus on one suggestion of having to actually manage a stat other than health and I understand how that can discourage you, but trust me if you can suspend this thought that I only want you to be able to swing twice before gasping for air as if you're drowning and recognize the absolute silliness in not having any repercussion from engaging in war I think you might see that it could be a vast improvement.
The system is beautiful in its simplicity and offers a high skill cieling but depending on the server (server availability is another issue for some players) you'll notice a high skill floor as well.
consoles confirmed?
>>341593506
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Bannerlord+consoles
>>341578356
MAKE IT STOP
>>341576927
Longest lance I can make named "Take A Seat"
>>341575921
Why does it still look like a PS2 game?
>>341575921
>2017
Rumors said autumn 2016.
>>341594130
It has a dedicated fanbase that favors the in depth game mechanics over graphics and is made by a couple handfuls of people on a small budget.
>>341576061
>All I want is the map editor
There's one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obO5sbziqjM
Modders will get proper tools now.
>>341575921
Looks good
>>341587618
Phantasy Calradia has necromancy in it and lots of magical spells to learn. You also get super OP shit like massive undead armies and full-on liches casting lightning bolts and fireballs all over your enemies.
>>341594389
Jesus look at what they've done already without them.
>>341594584
You can be 100% sure some people will recreate iconic location with it.
Maybe we'll finally get a proper fantasy RPG mod this time.
I'm also interested about the multiplayer even if I never played it once on warband.
>>341575921
I came.
>>341580376
Are you forgetting Caladria looked terrible, too? The marker tier drawings on the map were eye swores, but for some reason it added charm to the games.
>>341575921
Does this still include the late Roman tier faction?
>>341595729
There are two not-rome faction
>>341596216
Have we seen what they look like ingame?
>>341596216
I thought there were three notRome factions: Western, Southern and Northern Empire.
>>341580110
Wait why are there big lakes in calradia now
>>341594558
Is that for base M&B or Warband?
>>341596460
Warband takes place in the northwest section of that map.
For reference,"Charas" is Shariz.
>>341578862
>showing things for the past 10 years
>initial release date was in 2008
>>341596525
Warband, but I think there's an ancient version of it that works for base M&B too.
>>341596525
>>341596718
Solid and Shade is a base M&B mod that lets you be a necromancer, a lich, a vampire, a werewolf and other shit like that.
That might be the one you are talking about.
>>341591197
grafix
Craving some M&B now, what mod should I get for a Warband playthrough?
>>341586203
NO
>>341586203
I hope his ancestor loves feasts too or I'll feel betrayed.
>>341596891
Did warsword get updated?
If yes try it
>>341598473
>updated May 29th
Yes?
>>341596883
They both look like shit, I don't get it.
>>341587618
Only half of Total war is turn based.
