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Personally I dont know...1080p seems clear enough for me and I aint gonna ditch my 50inch tv for a fuckin meme
100% of cable channels in my country aint even 720p. 100% of the movies i download aint even full 1080p (FUCKIN letterboxed shit)
I am willing to bet my left nut this thread was made by a Sonygger.
>>341575401
no I am a PCuck with a $1500 pc
99% of people aint aware of how demanding this 4k meme is.
a resolution of 4k is asking the cpu to render 4X 1080p. its 4 times harder
i have a w905a 55"
no point in buying a 4k meme tv
I've had a 4K monitor since April 2014.
Catch up already.
>>341575302
Got my 1080p sammy almost 2 years ago. I won't be ready for 4K until 2019-20
4k is a meme
I have one and there's a clear lack of actual 4k content
no console will ever do 4k rendering btw
>>341575881
good luck getting more than 10fps at 4k
>>341575302
gonna wait a few years before I even think about 4k
Oled masterrace reporting in. 4k oleds are insanely expensive. Everything else is pukeworthy maymay, because plasma is dead
>>341575891
Until Scorpio/Neo
Personally I'd rather have 1440p VR(ultra settings)than a 4K TV
From what I've heard the HDR thing is a bigger deal than the 4K resolution upgrade, but HDR is still not featured inside the consoles from this gen.
>>341576113
The Scorpio and Neo will not be rendering games at 4k
They'll upscale them, if that, and it's not even remotely the same thing
>>341576113
No.
Scorpio/Neo will do 1080p (or whatever the game's original rendering resolution is) upscaled to 4k. That's literally it.
You will notice no difference, unless you're sitting with your nose touching the screen, in which case it will look worse.
>>341575903
I have a GTX 1070. That's not too hard to do.
>>341576275
for now :^)
talk to me in a year
>>341576275
How the fuck dod you get a 1070 and where did you get it?
i'll get a neo but will keep my 1080 tv. can't afford a 4ker at the moment
At some point you people will realize that 4k gaming is at least a decade away for consoles.
For fucks sake, you can't even do 1080p properly and now you're talking of skipping 1440p and going straight to 4k?
Probably the dumbest marketing ploy I've ever seen, but the Neo and less so, Scorpio will sell off the shelves.
Honestly I would prefer for the new upgraded consoles to just run games better rather than just upscale games to 4K. Like, being able to run things like the pre-release graphics of The Witcher 3 or shit like that. 4K is still really young to be even remotely interesting.
Sony is the biggest investor of 4K TVs .
Sonyggers are confused as fuck right now
>>341575302
As I get older the less I care about being on the cutting edge of technology. I probably won't adopt 4k until it's been a standard for a couple years and gets cheaper. By that time there will probably be shills asking me why I don't have an 8k television.
>>341576275
Post specs bitch boy, it is my dream to have a PC that can run 4k. I've got just over $1200 saved now.
>>341576842
I see no real reason to get 4k, since I probably won't be able to upgrade my PC to handle it for another year or two. Even then I might just go for 1440p now that they're getting closer to $200 for a decent monitor.
>>341576345
>breaking news: water is wet and technology becomes obsolete over time
What's your point? 4K performance is only going to get better as time goes on.
>>341576497
>>341576860
Netherlands, found a site that had them in stock on release.
I personally believe that 4k will be possible on the scorpio as long as devs properly optimize for it.
Think about it, console versions of games usually perform better than a PC version with similar specs to a console due to greater focus to a specific hardware configuration than say the vast amount of PC rigs out there
On the flipside, devs hardly even optimize for consoles these days. I guess devs should at least shoot for 1080p 120 fps with these new specs
>>341577183
>expecting 120fps or 4k on consoles
wtf are you smoking ?
>>341575302
Why would I? 1080p looks absolutely fine. I'd rather have 1080p@60fps with proper AA than meme 4K@25fps cinematic expirience.
>>341575302
Just wait till the price comes down.
Never jump on the band wagon right away. I did it with 3D Tvs and looked what happened with that
>>341575302
>50", 1080p
>Clear enough for me
>Cable channels aren't even 720p
>Clear enough to me
Low standards aside 4k is a whole other level to 1080p in terms of clarity.
Having a 50 inch 1080p tv is pointless, especially if you're not even viewing 1080p on it.
>>341577183
Unless the Scorpio is $800+ and sold at a huge loss like the PS3 there's no way in hell they'll scratch 4k with modern games.
1080p 60fps is definitely what they should go for, though I could see 1440p 20fps upscaled to 4k feasible as well.
>buying a TV for gaming
way as well buy a fork for drinking soup.
> not having a 4k set with access to direct 4k feed for sports
Sports is literally the only reason to ever upgrade your television or monitor. Meanwhile porn might convince you to avoid upgrading.
>>341576113
exactly, in a couple years nobody will use TVs anymore
just plug in to their VR after work and nod out
>buying a 4k tv which will have horrendous input lag for a "4k" console which does nothing more than upconvert 1080
Don't be a filthy casual, get a 4k. If you can't afford it just become a rent boy for a few weeks.
>>341575302
after my shitty LG monitor with garbage color died, I'm now getting a 24" WQHD monitor with good color. Can't wait for delicious pixel density and dat adobe 100% coverage
>>341576256
>6TF
>1080p
You're underestimating what Vega can do.
>>341577183
this is some dudebro logic right here.
The xbone and PS4 were 2.5x slower than PC GPUs from 2011, even though you're right about console optimization, you seem to greatly under-estimate the difference in consoles and PCs in terms of raw power, the kind of raw power that makes this argument irrelevant in practice.
If you could make a console as powerful as a PC, the console would perform better because of optimization.
But this isn't happening, nor will it ever happen.
The scorpio would have to be over 4 times more powerful than the xbox one to even play games at 4k 30fps, because that's all the GTX 900 series manages and those are about 4 times more powerful than the xbox one (if not more).
Also note that 4k is 4 times the pixels as 1080p, and that the xbox one was not able to do 1080p in a lot of games (resorting to 900p and even 720p).
The scorpio is just powerful enough to do HDR and smooth out the framerate in xbox one games that would otherwise drop frequently.
It's not a 4k gaming system.
>>341576275
>1070
>4k
It can barely max out games like witcher 3 in 1440p. I love memes and corporate dickslurping as much as the next guy but come the fuck on.
>>341575512
>4K on integrated
>>341575302
Oh, great. It's the
>Everything is a meme meme
I love this one.
>>341577938
You also love being pretty stupid. The difference between "maxing out" and playing on high settings is bigger than you think. Games like Rocket League I get an average of 100fps at 4K maxed. Battlefield 4 plays on High at 4K60. Dirt Rally, FFXIV, Dragon's Dogma play maxed. GTA5 and Mirror's Edge Catalyst I play at 1440p or slightly higher on high settings. It's definitely not there to be playing all games maxed at 4K but that's not saying it can play most on med-high settings.
I never said I could play all games maxed at that resolution. We're still 2 or 3 years from doing that, but right now just about any game can be played at 4K with dialed down settings at least.
Fuck no
Though i keep having my eye on a 1440p 21:9 curved monitor.
I've never been too much of a graphics whore, but ultrawide resolution seems too good to pass up
>>341578627
I'll be upgrading to 1440p in a few days. But I went for a multimedia monitorsince I dev
>>341578998
What monitor did you get?
>>341579162
BenQ BL2420PT
>>341579261
Oh cool, hope it works out man, as far as i've heard benq sometimes have backlight issues
If the NX comes out and plays BotW at 2160p NATIVELY then I will. Looking at those textures it just might be able to. If not I'll just enjoy holding onto my shekels.
Upscaling is a consolepleb meme buzzword.
>>341575302
I still have a 32" CRT TV for muh fighting games and retro games. It's gonna take a while for me to switch to 4k.
>>341575302
Just get an AMD GPU to output a virtual 4k resolution on your 1080p monito-
>getting 4k TVs?
>TVs?
Fuck TVs.
>>341579367
yeah on amazon reviews only like 2 people complained about it and they got replacements.
Majority seems fine. Fingers crossed no ded pixels or backlight issues. Shame I couldn't get it earlier as I have deadlines coming up and my old one just flat out blew up
>>341577810
What I think is going to happen with these consoles is devs will realise they can't do 4k and either go to 1440p or 2k at a stretch.
>>341579623
there's still no evidence that these consoles will run at higher resolutions at all
>>341579541
>virtual 4k resolution on your 1080p monito
HAH
AMD getting desperate or what
>>341579605
Nothing a couple energy drinks and all nighters can't fix, cheers m8
>>341579664
They're obviously going to try.
It seems like console believe that better graphics come from resolution and not effort put in from devs.
>>341579791
>They're obviously going to try.
I really don't think they will.
the scorpio will be the new 3ds of consoles.
You've got HDR and you've got more stable framerates, that's it.
1440p/144hz is the way to go
I've been playing at 4k since 2014 why the fuck isn't everyone else
>>341579686
oh no way past that. Deadlines are tomorrow. Can't texture plane model with carpal and all in time. Gotta get videos and promo screenieweenies done today. Now they're gonna be shitty 740p thanks to my decade old cintiq.
>tfw even graphics tablets have better resolution than consoles
>>341575302
>Personally I dont know...1080p seems clear enough for me and I aint gonna ditch my 50inch tv for a fuckin meme
Remember that people said the exact same thing pre-HD. Make of that what you will.
>>341579668
won't need anti-aliasing for games at that virtual resolution
don't tell me nvidia can't do virtual resolutions
3840x2160 here
>>341579898
Hopefully your supervisors are consoletards then, knowwhatimsayin?
ponies literally freaking the fuck out.
>>341579859
Then again. Thinking about it.
What they might pull with with neo is 4k Bluray. rather than native game resolution.
At least to keep true to the namesake
Just got one. My previous TV crapped out on me, so I felt like it was time. I'll be playing 4k with those sweet cinematic console 23 fps now, on PC.
>>341577938
>It can barely max out games like witcher 3
Why would you even want to max the witcher 3? Hairworks is a complete fucking mess and the differences between Ultra vs High are almost non-existent. You're sacrificing a ridiculous amount of resources and gaining hardly anything when you try and max witcher 3.
>>341579541
I hope you're aware that TVs and monitors are pretty much the same shit for a while now.
>>341580106
>What they might pull with with neo is 4k Bluray. rather than native game resolution.
I'm pretty sure that's what both of them are doing.
The PS4 and XBO couldn't do 4k video because they use the old version of HDMI.
>>341580025
I have an AMD GPU and virtual resolution looks like ASS. You're being a fool if you believe that shit can replace actual 4k.
>>341580317
>>341575302
>I aint gonna ditch my 50inch tv for a fuckin meme
Yah, like how 1080p was a meme, right?
Obviously higher resolution looks better.
>>341580381
>Fuck TVs.
Yep. Why would you say something so silly if you knew they were the same shit?
>>341580317
No, they aren't. Say hello to input lag.
>are we
Nigga I've been on 4K for over a year.
>>341580375
1920x1080 with VSR on = 1920x1080 without VSR
I have 4k TV and there is literary no 4k content avaliable on my country and my PC alone is not capable yet outputting 4k @ 30 fps stable enough. I fell for 4k meme.
I'm going to get a 4k 40'' monitor for my couch station, it only costs a 100 bucks more then the worst 1080p monitor and I will probably upgrade my graphic card whenever the 1080ti comes out.
Don't see any downside.
>play games on 60"
>input lag is a bitch
Unfortunately I've lost control of my life and can't move my console over to my 19" monitor for a better gaming experience.
>>341580490
You were supposed to post this image macro and the conversation would have been over with.
>>341580861
I'm using flat 4k TV to play my pc games with wireless mouse & keyboard and there is no lag noticeable.
Trying to "max" games is fucking stupid. More than half of the modern day games have shit tier optimization when you get to the max settings. The only reason why they exist is to sell 2x video cards. You couldn't max that game with this single card BUT if you get another one you can max the game out! A 1070 works fine at 4k and I'm sure whatever AMD is cooking up will do just fine.
I'm looking into it
my tv is now 9 years old
>>341575302
After I finish upgrading my surround system, I'm probably going to replace my 32" 1080p TV for a 40~43" 4K one.
Oh, and fuck off with the "gaymers" tagging. This isn't plebbit.
4k is a gimmick
4ktvs are cheap if you don't go with the best name brand if you just want one. (Believe I got my Vizio for like 800 or so a year ago).
I'm still running a 60 inch sony 1080p I bought 1.4 years ago. And my pc monitor is a 27 inch 1080p ips so probably not because I'm happy with 60fps 1080p ultra settings on my pc
I doubt we will get plentiful and comfortable gaming in 4k for quite a while.
No reason to go for a 4k tv now.
>>341575302
I have a 4K 40" monitor
I only play in 2k, I literally can't tell the difference from the distance required to use such a big screen
>>341575302
not until i can get a 4k 23' monitor for 200€ tops. i paid 125€ for my 21.5 1080p monitor 5 yers ago, and don't rly see a reson to pay much more than that.
4K is no gimmick. It's just fucking expensive right now to get both a good 4K display and the PC required to enjoy 4k gaming.
>>341576860
You're not going to be running 4k for $1200
>>341577282
Fun fact, at 4k you don't need as much AA. During the early 2000's when CRTs were progressing AA was seen as a novel way to stop jaggies in games. It was predicted to be a stop gap measure while resolutions got to the point where we didn't need it anymore.
Then when TV makers latched on to 1080p, AA became the standard.
>>341577810
The scorpio is exactly 4x stronger than the XBone. However, even that's not going to be enough.
The next gen of consoles are going to be the DEFACTO 1080p machines. Being able to run games at solid 60fps with graphics turned up to 11.
Considering the GTX 1080 which has 9 TFlops of compute struggles with 4K, a console with 2/3s of that isn't going to be able manage 4K irrespective of how optimised it is.
>>341575302
I just downsample. Might get a 4k TV along with the next-gen consoles. Currently a waste of money.
>>341584263
>GTX 1080 which has 9 TFlops of compute struggles with 4K
Do you mean struggles with 4k at max settings of games? Because a 1080 handles 4k games very well when people are not trying to put them on max settings.
>>341584263
>source
right out of my ass.
>>341575302
Not for at least 5 years. Fuck that overpriced shit. Also it's gonna be a while until they get the input lag on those faggots down. I've got a Sony W7 and when I bought it, it had the best input lag on the market for HDTV at 13.5 ms leo bodnar tested. No way I'm gonna downgrade from that. Won't buy a 4K TV until they've got the input lag below 20ms at the very least.
>>341577134
Do you realize you just paid a 100 $+ idiot tax?
>>341575302
>2016
>no 4k tv yet
I bet you watch YIFY rips
>Having a tv.
Who even watches tv anymore.
Now is the time to go 1440P. in 5-8 years when the new 8K or whatever resolution comes out,there will be good cheap 4k monitors and GPU's that can actually handle it.
>>341575302
I don't really have much use for one right now. I would have to upgrade my PC again, and I just got a new GPU/CPU last year, streaming 4K video would hit my data cap really quick, and are there even 4K blu rays yet?
>>341588391
What GPU do you have?
Does anyone even know how resolution works`?!
>>341575302
I work in a store that sells tv's, and I haven't gotten a 4k TV for a few reasons
1) the only stuff in 4k is netflix, some youtube video's, amazon prime, and 4k blu-rays; tv production companies are taking THEIR SWEET FUCKING time to realise what anyone could tell them already: the internet is a better solution for TV that satellite dishes and aerial connections are as of right now
2) just getting a 4k TV isn't enough, the upscaling is nice and all, but if you want real improvement, then you'll need a TV with a high processing rate and some variety of unique LED screen (samsung use SUHD, LG have OLED)
the colours and contrast are so much better that it's ridiculous
believe me, I've had plenty of opportunities to get cheap 4k tv's using my staff discount (and watching when things go on clearance to get them even cheaper), but unless I was buying and OLED or SUHD, it's just not worth it, because even though the picture will be sharper (slightly), the colours will still be very muted and the black colours come out as very dark grey instead
I would say atm it would even be more worth it to get a 1080p OLED considering they've dropped in price now that the 4k OLED's are out
you would get consistently better watching out of better contrast and colours than you would out of upscaling or watching one of the few things available in 4k
>>341588605
970 meme card
>>341589997
isn't 970 decent?
670 sli here
>>341589992
>1080p OLED
I have to take a look into them. Are they still susceptible to burn-in?
>>341575302
Probably never or only when it becomes the standard, i mostly play on pc and im not buying a 50+inch screen just to notice the diference.
>>341590241
It's fine maxing most things in 1080. 4K's pushing it though.
>>341590340
nah, that's not been an issue for a while now
but I WILL warn you that they are very fucking fragile
like someone in another store was getting their OLED out on display, and it's really thin, so he went to pick it up with both hands holding the bottom of the screen at both ends (which is not uncommon for normal screens)
one of the corners he was holding LITERALLY folded as he went to lift it, completely bent back on itself
so that was one £3000 TV down the toilet for that store, and the company wasn't happy
Meh, my old TV of 5 years took a shit, so I upgraded. 4ks are actually pretty cheap I got a decent enough lg 50 inch 4k for just under 800 bucks which is what my 42 inch 1080 cost in 2011. I'm pretty satisfied with it, except I should have done more research on its input lag etc before hand but it's still bearable although slightly noticeable after I turn off all of the bling settings and postprocessing
>>341591439
Thanks for the warning.
I'm currently upgrading my surround system, just got a receiver able to reproduce all the HD formats with the exception of Atmos/DTS-X, that was a huge upgrade in terms of sound quality from my old one that I bought 8 years ago and now I'm going to get some speakers to replace my crappy ones.
Since all of that is going to be paired with a 32" 1080p LCD, it's going to be overkill, and I was also thinking about replacing the TV with a larger one. If I can also get improved picture quality, even better.
Fuck 4K, buy a high-framerate screen instead. 1080p is as good as resolution ever needs to be unless you use a 40" TV as your computer screen.
I saw both 4K and 144Hz screens IRL. The former is just barely noticeable. The latter actually has a huge effect on how smooth and real-like the games feel, it's almost like looking through a window.
>>341575903
Anon, I was running 4k 60fps a year and a half ago no sweat. The fuck you on about?
>>341575302
Sitting close to a small screen > sitting far away from a big screen
>>341592747
>This
Having both 2160p 60hz and 1440p 144hz displays I can honestly say my ideal monitor with current tech is 1440p @ 120hz with ULMB enabled. Hands down the most responsive, fluid game experience you can have. 4k looks a bit better but it's pretty hard to tell where as 120hz+ULMB is night and day.
I've also found most games no longer have screen tearing making Gsync rather pointless, I haven't seen any screen tearing since I got my 980 Ti's.
>>341576275
>GTX 1070
>4k
I mean, 15 FPS is more than 10 but come on.
>>341588208
This.
I have no interest in paying a massive premium on 4k r&d.
Right now 1080/1440 is fine. I use my computer to record and spent more on my soundcard than my CPU/GPU combined.
>>341594257
>soundcard
I hope you used this term loosely and meant to say you have an external audio interface / DAC and were not actually stupid enough to put an audio device INSIDE A BOX FULL OF ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS....
Somehow I'm guessing you did the latter though.
