I'm still mad.
>>341544313
it is a 20 year old franchise with 7 mainline entries
anyone who didn't already have the type chart memorized would just look one up anyways, may as well have it in game
not everyone is autistic enough to memorize all the type combinations.
and all it does it eliminate the need to look it up on google.
finally
so popplio is going to be water/fairy?
Pokemon was already a game made explicitly for children
Be thankful they didn't include an auto-battle button that automatically picks super effective moves for you in battles
>>341544313
Why?
Why would you get mad at this?
RIP BRONZONG
>>341544313
So you hate GF for pointing out the obvious shit but you literally did the same when you fucking circled the obvious offense in the picture.
Do you hate yourself?
>>341544845
autism
It's a game aimed at kids, pokemon isn't a game for tactical gamers, idk why people getting riled up that they're catering to their lowest common demoninator
>>341544313
it also only shows you that after that pokemon is in your pokedex
>>341544845
Pokemon fans are well known for having a lot of autistic members on their groups
haha, really? there's at least an option to remove it, right?
It only happens after multiple encounters of a Pokemon. They already fought litten so they know the typing. They didn't see pichu so it didn't show anything.
>>341544871
didn't think of this
nice job, gamefreak
>>341544972
>pokemon isn't a game for tactical gamers
Okay, sure, but even then, even if it was, wouldn't it be a GOOD thing that you now know the best course of action?
Do you get mad at the screen showing the outcome of battle in Fire Emblem too?
>>341544313
who doesn't know the type chart by now? even then it only appears after you've encountered a pokemon so it's not all that hand holding in the first place
>>341544805
You know what I find funny about this? The (Elite 4) AI is entirely based around the concept that the player is always going to pick the Super Effective move. It's already that way.
I remember fighting some thing that was weak to Ice. And I had a Water Pokemon out. Obviously I had Ice Beam, and the Elite 4 opponent just switches out to some asshole who both resisted Water and Ice Beam.
Now it's obvious that the AI is fucking brilliant to the player. The player is going to go, "HOLY SHIT SO SMART" whereas before there was chance they would miss catching it, mistaking it as a lucky switch.
Don't bother OP, the casuals here are all for it.It's okay when Nintendo does it!
why are you people even on a video game based image board a game getting dumbed down isn't a problem?
>>341544624
I could imagine you playing a SMT game and then complaining that you don't understand it because it doesn't spoonfeed you information.
>>341545465
Bronzong has Heatproof and Levitate as abilities, each negating one of its weaknesses. If this is in actual player on player battles and tells you what he's weak to, it's a real kick in the dick.
>>341544976
>it's literally a benzene molecule
How come I only just noticed this
>>341545271
Not really
I see why some people might be upset, there was already precious little depth to the combat system in Pokemon, and removing the knowledge requirement just makes an easy game even easier
That said, it's also a game made for children that basically shrugs it's shoulders and says "Yeah I guess people older than 12 can play this seriously if they want to", so I don't think it's that big a deal
>>341545182
tried to look up what you mean, but didn't find anything
what's the deal with bronzong, did it change types or something?
>>341545465
it has both Heatproof and Levitate, useful for multiplayer when your opponent don't know which one you have
to be honest, randomly guessing what type a pokemon is the first time you encounter it really isn't that fun.
>>341546128
I dunno, I liked that.
>>341545850
>>341546078
Do we know for sure that it will show this in multiplayer?
>>341546128
They explained that it doesn't show the first time you see the pokemon
>>341546128
You still have to do that. This just remembers what's what. There's literally no reason to care
>>341544845
Serious answer.
Previously the game wouldn't tell you which attacks were going to be effective or not, you have to learn by trying and remembering them the hard way.
>>341545271
Some people consider stuff like that 'handholding', arguing that stuff like the exact odds to hit robs something from the game.
It's really personal preference though. It's like comparing RTSs that have fog of war to ones that don't.
>people complaining about easy mode in a game where only type match ups matter anyways
if competitive wants to worry about IVs and all that stuff, let em, but you can get through the whole of any pokemon game with nothing but attack moves. Considering there are over 600 of these things now and they change up the match-up advantages almost every gen I see no issue here.
>>341546128
honestly the only pokemon that still trips me up sometimes is that purple scorpion thing, it's really easy to tell what they are 99% of the time. i don't know why people are making a big deal out of this
>>341545850
>>341546078
>They called it Heatproof instead of Fireproof, the more commonly used term for things that are fire retardant
What the hell Gamefreak
>>341546128
Yes it is you stupid faggot. Do you remember what a game is anymore?
Why are Pokemon fans so bad at video games?
>>341545810
Not that guy, but SMT doesn't have nearly as many type matchups as Pokemon.
Basic elements, and different strike damages. Mudo and Hama. Megido. Enemies aren't necessarily weak to what they appear to be.
>>341546678
whoa calm down there buddy, this is a christian board. we don't use that language here
I'm okay with this. Types used to make sense in Pokemon. If it looked like a fish, it was water type. Now everything is fucking crazy. What type is the floating sword? What type is the floating keys?
>>341546981
calm this *grabs dick*
>>341546720
Because they want to pretend that theyre still selling games to 10 year-olds and not 20-30 year olds.
>>341547060
>trial and error 2 hard 4 me
>I must be told because I don't know how to have fun anymore
>let me suck your cock some more gamefreak!
>>341547126
back the fuck off???? *unzips knife*
>>341547060
I still don't know what type is Cradily or Solrock. I always thought Solrock was fucking fire.
>>341545850
Hopefully it's based purely on typing and doesn't take into account abilities.
>>341547284
knife this *grabs dick*
>>341547282
It has nothing to do with trial an error. It has to do with not wanting to memorize shit when you play online battle.
>>341547060
Both are steel obviously.
>>341547216
How does that make it any better? I mean acknowledging that your favorite franchise is easy shit for literal babies.
>>341545810
>What is SMT4
>>341544313
nig, theres going to be almost 1000 pokemon and they're still marketing to kids, you can't expect fucking children to learn that many type matchups and have fun with it if theyre not autistic
>>341544313
The only matchups I don't know are anything related to Fairy-type.
I'm grateful for this.
>>341546382
>you have to learn by trying and remembering them the hard way.
no you didnt you autist pice of shit everyone use shit like bulbapedia and other wikis, no one memorise the types advantages by the "hard way" since the originals Gold and Silver
>>341547514
>not wanting to memorize shit
How can you be this casual? Why do you even play games? Just watch letsplays on youtube so you don't have to do anything anymore, you millenial freak
>>341547717
Fucking this.
>>341544313
Fucking EOU does this shit, and there are only 3 elements.It's still one of the best games on 3ds. Who fucking cares?
>>341546435
Fireproof implies invincibility to Fire.
>>341547717
>everyone use shit like bulbapedia and other wikis
>this is what kids born after 1990 actually did
LOL
>>341547431
*slurp* *gag* *smack*
Holy shit, /v/ is now defending the casualization of a video game.
How did this happen? Is the video game industry truly that far gone that asking players to remember things and/or think things through on their own is now too "autistic" for your regular gamer?
>>341547997
>Is the video game industry truly that far gone that asking players to remember things and/or think things through on their own is now too "autistic" for your regular gamer?
Yes, why do you think those lets play videos are so popular?
>>341544871
Perhaps it only goes by typing, and ignores abilities.
>>341544313
It only appears after you fought that particular Pokemon once, and is just an eyesore more than anything.
>>341547936
wow man it must feel realy good to be part of the super secret club of people that born before the 90s
if only i were so cool like you
>>341547305
It's exactly like that.
It even shows up on status moves.
>>341548238
That still fucks up some pokemon like Bronzong and if Gamefreak is really retarded, Zoroark.
>>341548331
>if only i were so cool like you
Yeah if only, too bad for you though. You should invent a time machine so you can get some taste desu
>>341547997
This casualizes it for the new players, not for the current installbase.
The meta expects you to know the type chart already.
They should have had an in-game chart of weaknesses and resistances in the menu instead. That way you have something you can consult if you forget without totally spoon-feeding players.
>>341548451
how about you start right now anon
i will be waiting here
Hopefully you can disable it.
>>341547997
who the fuck does it casualize it for? the people playing pokemon for the first time (lol?)
>>341544313
>Pound
>Water Gun
>Growl
>Disarming Voice
Heh.
>>341544313
thank fucking god, you have no idea how many blunders I made because I never remembered the whole table!
>>341544313
For those of us playing since gen1, learning ~100 or so new Pokemon's types every few years was never a big deal.
But for young kids just getting into the series, they're now diving into a sea of 700+ Pokemon. This shit will help them learn their types and weaknesses.
I'm really not seeing why this is a problem.
>>341547997
It's fucking Pokemon you autistic nigger, it is the casual game par excellence.
Secondly, memorizing a type matchup chart isn't 'hardcore', it's not like without these the average player was going to try and learn things as they went along, either you've been playing the series since the beginning and at this point you know, or you're going to look it up on the internet because you're semi new / casual. And if you're a competitive player this has no impact at all on the meta.
Of all the fucking shit in video games that people could get mad about and you people pick the most harmless bullshit, jesus christ.
I'm fine with this. Mostly because I can't be assed to learn any of the chart changes that came with Fairy.
>>341544313
It only tells you this info against Pokemon you've already faced.
Good
Fuck Shuckle and Dwebble or whatever the fuck it's called
>>341544313
>Being this mad about a kids game making it easier for their target audience.A U T I S MUTISM
Retards, it only tells you these if you've already beaten the pokemon.
>>341549189
>making things easier for kids instead of harder
This is a disturbing trend that has culminated in retarded millennials such as yourself
>>341548806
>or you're going to look it up on the internet because you're semi new / casual
Or you could, you know, play the game. When you encounter a pokemon for the first time you can use some trial an error to discern what type it is, say a Charizard using Wing Attack and Flamethrower. If they are both Super Effective you can make a guess saying that it's a grass type. If your fight with the pokemon ends and you're still not sure you can go into the pokedex and check on the typing. This isn't a game that's very challenging or has to be optimized to play, so you using a not very effective attack over the course of a battle is fine because you probably still have a chance to win, and the next time you encounter that pokemon or typing you'll know what to do, and it's not coming from the game spelling it out for you, it's knowledge you learned over the course of your adventure.
>>341547717
>>341547936
>>341548451
Ha.
But yeah when the game was created that was how it was done. Kids would feel bright trying to learn it all, write it down in notes or fork out for guides.
I suppose it is kind of pointless now that you can google it a second. But you could also just watching twitch stream too and not play it too I guess.
Personally I don't believe not telling you the type effect really add anything to the game so I'm not bothered by it.
>>341549717
yeah becuase all kids have to grow up like YOU did right?
Its not the 90's anymore.
>>341548997
How could you not tell dwebble is bug/rock?
I'm more mad about Yungoos than the type-matchup elitism
>>341544313
Do people really get mad at shit like this?
Why would you do that? It's getting mad at making things easier but not in a bullshit way. I swear everyone who does that kinda shit has the biggest fucking nostalgia goggles ever.
>>341550228
>yeah becuase all kids have to grow up like YOU did right?
Yeah it would be nice if kids didn't grow up to be stupid like you.
>>341550413
Getting angry at minor details releases dopamine
>>341550545
So that's why /v/ is so active.
I gotta stop questioning this shithole at some point, it can't be good for my health.
>>341544313
Everything made complete fucking sense when it was revealed that Masuda didn't develop X & Y / ORAS and that it was a different new developer. You know, the guy that gives all gym leaders a maximum of 4 pokemon and makes the games easy as shit.
Pokemon is dead. It was already casual as shit and now the new guy wants to make it even easier.
B2/W2's Hard Mode was the series' swan song for me.
>>341549856
>When you encounter a pokemon for the first time you can use some trial an error to discern what type it is
You still have to do that because it doesn't tell you what is effective until you beat them/use those moves
It's LITERALLY the exact same as what you're suggesting except it goes and checks the pokedox for you.
>1800 elo in LC and 1900 in UU
>still forget type match ups around poison other than weak to ground and psychic, SE on grass and fairy, doesn't hit steel.
>>341550886
>You still have to do that because it doesn't tell you what is effective until you beat them/use those moves
This is a screen grab from the first encounter of the other starter in the game, so that is 100% false.
>>341550885
Yeah but it also just makes shit easier on the dummies, which pokemon obviously has a lot of that play the series. The ones that aren't dumb enough to need it will ignore it and the ones that are get helped by it.
Which is why I don't understand the anger over this.
>>341550476
Yeah because Pokemon is for smart grownups like you and should not be reduced to entry level trash for kids right?
>>341547997
This, fuck /v/.
>>341548618
You're a moron. It casualizes it for old players because they shouldn't know the types of every new Pokemon in SM at the start (or any new gen for that matter).
>>341544313
Why memorize what can be referenced (e.g., no skill required) in seconds?
What's so bad about cutting out that middle man?
>>341551145
They said it was the second time fighting Hau. So it goes
Get starter
Then Hau challenges you.
Then go do some shit and go to the plaza and fight him again.
>>341551145
>lvl 7 and 8
>more than 1 pokemon each
>first encounter
Have you EVER played a pokemon game? They always have one fight with the rival where the rival has only their starter at a really low level.
>>341551145
Wrong, they said that this is the second fight with him. Did you even pay attention? He even has two pokemon now.
>>341551315
are you implying that it already isn't piss easy to guess what type a pokemon is by now, even on a first encounter? some of them are literally color coded for fuck's sake
The fact that there are people legitimately annoyed by this is so baffling.
>>341551623
>some
>>341551315
>complaining about casualization in pokemon of all games
What's next, whining about how many fucking tutorials are in the newer mario games, or how zelda has at least one entire dungeon devoted to teaching you shit?
It's funny how the Pokemon fans who say "It's for kids anyways! It's suppose to be easy!" are the same ones who actively play the games.
>game gives you a little bit of extra information to prevent you making some mistakes
You cannot tell me you haven't by mistake forgot type match-ups and made an attack that has completely fucked up the match at least once
>>341544313
HOLY SHIT
WHAT
>>341544313
I'm pretty sure they only pop up after you've fought the Pokemon once before.
Even then, only a fucking moron wouldn't know the weakness chart by now. Even then, it's not like it's hard to learn.
>oh shit its a new pokemon
>it's red and brown
guess what type it is guys, YOU'LL NEVER GUESS RIGHT
>>341551145
This isn't the first fight with the starter. Rewind to when he's fighting the pichu, he hasn't fought one before so it doesn't show type match-ups. They even mentioned specifically in the stream that it works like this. Please understand the source material before complaining about it on the internet.
>>341551476
>>341551478
>>341551515
This does not explain how you would know fairy isn't very effective against fire.
>>341552020
>fight a new blue pokemon near a bunch of water
holy fuck better use a fire move
>>341551839
>defending casualization
>ever
Its pokemon, what did you expect?
>>341552092
>moving the goalposts
>>341552148
>plays a game for literally 10 yo
>get mad cus casualization
/v/ everyone
at less in /vp/ people know and accept that pokemon is aimed for litle kids
![szMsu[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/muBNXy9.png "szMsu[1].png")
It's just a game, no reason to get mad LOL
>>341552148
Pokemon has always been casual. ALWAYS. Just because they're making it even more so now doesn't mean it's worthy to get fucking pissed over.
>tfw you will never have autism
>>341544565
You don't always know the type of new Pokemon. Remember that tree Pokemon that was actually a rock type?
>>341552403
Stopped after gen 4, faggot. Why shouldn't I be upset over casualization of a favorite series of mine? Should I just accept it instead? Neo-/v/ everyone.
>>341552568
>You don't always know the type of new Pokemon.
And you don't in this game, either.
I can't even begin to tell you mega altaria is weak and resistant to. There are a ton of pokemon like that, and I'd end up looking at some retarded chart anyway, so this really just saves me time.
>>341552568
yeah, that one time you got tricked and used ember against it and then it used mimick to ember your cyndaquil was so scary!
>>341552708
And that means nothing when you get told which attacks work best on them.
>>341544565
>it is a 20 year old franchise with 7 mainline entries
>
>anyone who didn't already have the type chart memorized would just look one up anyways, may as well have it in game
Nigga, Pokemon is a game series for babies.
>>341552815
Only after you fight them for the first time. Just like the other games
>>341552870
It's nothing like the other games.
>>341552697
how about you grow up and acept that you are playing a kids game nigger, not the next muh super complex RPG
>>341544313
If you're legitimately mad about this maybe you should just kill yourself sperg
>>341552697
>favorite series
>stopped after gen 4
>new gen is gen 7
>>341553038
>implying Pokémon didn't go to shit after 4
>>341552969
How so?
In other pokemon games since FRLG, the pokedex tells you their types. If you know their types, you know what's effective and what isn't outside of exceptions like heatproof and we don't know how sun&moon's tips interact with abilities.
>>341552518
This so hard. It was never challenging unless you imposed limits on yourself. The game itself was pretty much autowin for the most part.
>>341551894
>games need to protect you from making mistakes now
>this is considered a good thing
There's no longer a need to discuss this. The gap between the two sides is so far apart that words will just bounce off their own echoes before reaching the other side.
>>341552697
>Stopped after gen 4
>the last time he play a videogame of the series was 7 years ago at the best and 10 at te worst
>a favorite series of mine
and here again ladies and gentlemen /v/ going ful retardation toaking about games that they dont play
>>341552697
>casualization
>of Pokemon
Dude this is a game for 9 year old kids and college hipster sluts. You honestly think there's any aspect of Pokemon that's "hardcore"?
Sure there's IV and EV stats, but this update doesn't affect that in the slightest.
>>341553204
It didn't, seeing that gen 5 came right after.
Regardless, what I'm saying is that it can't be a "favorite" if you haven't played a game since 200 fucking 9.
>>341553473
>Play the series for over a decade
>Love it
>Hate the direction it took after 4
>hurr dur how can you say you it's a favorite??
>>341553283
The older games never told you which attacks were the best before you knew the pokemon type, or even tried the attacks. The game is now a casualised piece of poo that only children could be entertained by.
>>341548783
Then they could have just shown you the enemy's type, and still expect the player to know the type matchups.
>>341553821
>The older games never told you which attacks were the best before you knew the pokemon type, or even tried the attacks
Good news, neither does SM.
>>341553805
Then it WAS a fave or the older games are some of your faves but it's not one of them anymore because you haven't even TOUCHED the newer games.
Git gud at semantics loser.
>>341544313
Wisdom and Skill>>>>Knowledge
Stop bitching about baby tier shit.
>>341553821
>The older games never told you which attacks were the best before you knew the pokemon type, or even tried the attacks.
This one doesn't. You do not get told which attacks are effective until you beat that pokemon. Pic related, first time you fight a pichu. No tips.
>>341553805
>havnt play the serioes for almost a decade
>hurr durr guys i sware im an expert in pokemon im from gen one the original 150 XD XD XD and everithing after gen 4 is shit i sware i dont need to play the games to toak shit about them like all the games here
This is useful when you're fighting something with a weird type combination, it's not always as simple as "Water beats fire"
>>341544313
There are ADULTS in this thread complaining that a videogame meant for little children is being made more casual.
You can't make this cringe up.
>>341553805
>went to shit
>bw2 are the best games in the series
um??????
>>341554093
Photoshopped
>>341553821
>casualized pokemon
say it isn't so
>>341554359
dang you caught me
So according to this thread, SMT is casual
>>341544313
Are they seriously spoonfeeding now? Jesus christ. That shit is easy if you aren't retarded.
>>341554053
Nope, love the simple gameplay, the world, the music, etc. How does it stop being a favorite of mine?
>>341554514
it is
>>341554272
It isn't even being made more casual though. The depth is still there.
>>341554514
Literally the most casual JRPG ever.
>>341544313
Who cares? You have the chart memorized anyway.
>>341554554
I'm being a grammar nazi just ignore me.
>>341554359
Did you even watch the stream??
>>341554529
If you've already used a type of move on a pokemon, it records how effective it is against them.
Pokemon is for kids you can play it at any age but don't be mad that it doesn't offer anything to you at this point and time.
pokemon's gameplay is so shallowit's fucking rock paper scissors just like the SMT garbagethat just showing the player more information makes players feel like the combat is ruined
>>341544313
I don't give a shit since I'm autistic enough that I immediately memorize the new pokemon, their types, and any type effectiveness changes (the chart is just ingrained into my mind).
It just saves time. Before someone would just look up the type(s) of a Pokemon and what attack types are effective against it online rather than just being told ingame.
>>341554884
This. Autism helps for once
>>341554709
Hmm. Not bad.
>>341551894
>You cannot tell me you haven't by mistake forgot type match-ups and made an attack that has completely fucked up the match at least once
That's the argument for not showing it. Even the best lineup can be undone by a simple act of carelessness.
But it depends how you look at it. Some seed is having the bumpers off and bowling other see it declaring check in chess,(which isn't the same thing as checkmate)
I would only be mad if it sees through abilities. Like it says "not effective" on Bronzongs with Levitate
>>341554593
This makes it so people no longer have to memorize the chart.
This boils the game down to "push the button that the game tells me to"
If you seriously can not tell how damaging that is, not just to Pokemon, but gaming as a whole then I dunno what to tell you.
The argument isn't that this makes Pokemon easier. The argument that this is a trend that teaches gamers that games that require no thought of your own is the best way to "play"
And then when you do consider that this is a game for children and you realize that these games are now training these young gamers to rely more on this type of hand holding than their own brains makes it all the worse.
>>341552568
The damage weakness info doesn't show up until you encounter that pokemon once already.
>>341544313
Fucking casuals ruining my vidya
>>341555412
Most RPGs have a method that allows you to permanently see an enemies weakness either after battling it before or after using a specific item or skill on it once. So Pokemon is just finally catching up to other RPGs.
>>341555601
How fucking dare they give me info on the opponent instead of making me look it up on the internet every time when I don't remember
>>341555412
>implying this was any different before now
Pokemon is specificly designed for fucking children to play. Go ahead and play it I don't fucking care but don't act like it was anything "deep" before.
>>341555412
>This makes it so people no longer have to memorize the chart.
Where the fuck where you people back when FRLG let you check the chart at any time with the L/R buttons?
>>341555412
>muh slippery slope
I don't have time for this shit
You win
>Pokemon
>Deep Compelling Gameplay
The only content in these games is the Pokemon in fact once you know the full list of new pokemon there's no reason to play the games
>>341555412
>This boils the game down to "push the button that the game tells me to"
It has to be said thought, if skill at Pokémon was simply memorising the type charts, well it does it really say much for the gameplay.
>>341547997
No shit they're casualizing it, you nub.
It's Pokémon, which was never meant to be anything but casual.
>>341556345
The skill comes from competitive play where everyone already knows their types to begin with, so these complaints make no sense
The only thing I hate about it is how ugly it looks. It looks they just decided to slap on that text at the last minute.
>>341544313
It's just more information, I fail to see the downside
All they need to do is make it easier to see what types of EVs and IVs a Pokemon have without doing obscure bullshit that you need to learn outside the game. Pokedex information for what type of IVs a Pokemon give for battling would be great.
>>341556827
>what type of IVs a Pokemon give for battling would be great.
*EVs
>>341544976
is that confirmed?
if so thats actually kinda cool
>>341555601
>Weak to fire
>>341556827
XY/ORAS showed EVs with that training thing.
It also showed some EVs based on whatever pokemon was in the training. (wailord challenge thing gave hp, etc.)
>>341556787
I think it's kind of ugly, not because it looks slapped on at the last minute but it looks like it was designed for XY's bottom screen where everything was round.
>>341550874
It is a video games series about collecting pets for children you fuckin sperglord.
They didn't intend for it to be taken the most seriously and competitive, autismos like you just pretend it is some hardcore serious game with deep mechanics.
don't go into it expecting a huge challenge.
Pokemon isn't dead, you're just a fucking adult now.
>>341557407
nintendo literally hosts competitive tournaments
>>341544313
More to the point, I'm worried about Abilities and items outright screwing with the effectiveness chart. Someone in the chat already brought up Bronzong, but I've got some real-life experience with this.
My niece was playing Pokémon White and was misled by NPCs into thinking that Ground-types were the best type to bring against Nimbasa City's Elesa.
Guess what? Two out of three of her Pokémon were pic-related, part-Flying. She still won, but it took a retry and a handful of anti-paralytics.
>>341552568
>sudowoodo
>pseudo
>wood
>false
>tree
no shit its a rock, you got rused
this is the "new" exp share all over again
you can probably just turn it off
hopefully for wifi battles they dont have it though
>>341557573
Who cares
>>341557734
The battle royal footage they showed had it.
>>341544313
>pupplio learns disarming voice
Guessing itll be part fairy in its final evolution
What the shit is fairy is fucking weak to?
>>341557724
It could've been Normal
>>341558063
Steel and poison, ye dungus.
>>341558063
Poison and Steel.
>>341558063
steel and poison. steel because in literature the fae folk are weak to cold iron. poison cause fairies like plants?
>>341558063
Without looking anything up, I remember from experience that Poison-types are the best hard counters for Fairy.
>>341558284
Poison because they wanted to buff it.
>>341547936
If you were born before 1990, playing Pokemon was never cool to begin with.
>>341558243
>>341558274
>>341558284
Thanks nerds. I wouldn't have guessed it was steel and poison. I'm assuming it resists dark and fighting because they hit for nothing against it.
>>341558439
>implying
>>341558468
Yes. It's resistant to bug as well and is immune to dragon, to boot.
>>341558468
Dark, Fighting, Bug and not effective.
Fairy is immune to Dragon, since it kind of exists to nerf dragon types from what I understand
Wow, they still make the easiest and most dumbed down JRPG series even easier with every title. I thought every Pokemon getting experience was already ridiculous. Pokemon manchildren are seriously the lowest of the low.
Who is the best generic polegirl and why is it the ranger?
>>341558683
Fairies (fae and seelie court) defeated or aided in the defeat a lot of dragons in mythology.
>>341559641
>polegirl
That little slip aside, XY Ace Trainer
>a bunch of literal millennials complaining about how they don't like inconsequential change that they don't like as if they were grumpy old men
>>341547297
Cradily's typing still confuses me
I always forget what moves are super effective and what are not
>>341560736
>not knowing what Cradily is
It's a fossil (so it's at least part rock) and is a plant, and this grass. It's weak to fighting, steel, ice, and bug and resistant to normal and electric. With its hidden ability Storm Drain, it is also immune to water.
>>341559641
gen 5 still the goat
>water/fairy
>the cat is probably going to be fire/dark
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>>341555601
>>341555882
>>341544565
This. I don't memorize the new shitters like I did with old pokemon. Plus dual types cancel some effectiveness.
>>341553821
>The game is now a casualised piece of poo that only children could be entertained by.
>only children could be entertained by
>only children
>children
You're talking about fucking Pokemon, you retard. It was a children's franchise from the very beginning.
>>341555601
>typing which is set compared to willy nilly changes that skills can alter and folklore can be loosely based on
First of all, it's only there AFTER you encounter them, first encounters won't have them
Second, we don't know if this counts abilities, for all we know, it could still say that ground and fire moves would be super effective against a bronzong without it's abilities being accounted for
Third, and most importantly, keep in mind that online has limitations and might not have them. Remember Pokemon Amie and massive shitposting about how it raises your critical hit ratio because they love you? They turned that shit off during online and they could do it for this too.
you're a 20 something year old dude mad that a game made for children is easy
All they did is put the shit that you'd only find in the manuel into the game proper
You still need to actually catch them first and have their pokedex entry
>>341553821
>The game is now casualized
>now
Anon... This is Pokemon. It was always a casual game. From day one it was a piss easy game meant to be played in short bursts and made for a wide audience. You could even say the series invented casual gaming as we know it since they popularized handheld video gaming. If you play Pokemon and expect a hardcore experience for hardcore gamers such as yourself, you're going to be disappointed.
>>341544624
You'll still need to memorize it if all your attacks are ineffective and you need to choose the right pokemon to switch in
Or when you defeat a pokemon and it asks if you want to switch now because ___ is getting switched in
Saves you absolutely nothing in the end so I don't see why it's worth getting mad about, if anything it will make lazy kids not remember and then get their ass wrecked when they need it
>>341545931
Its a bronze mirror
>>341544624
>you have to be autistic to memorize rock paper scissors
>>341558683
dont understand how poison is SE and bug is NTE. bugs eat plants so...
this prevents tricks such as running a miltank with sap sipper or a snorlax without thickfat thats the only down side i see to this
>>341544728
>Pokémon only have moves for their own types
>>341551987
I have it pretty much down, but Fairy throws me off.
I mean, they're just an anti-meta type right?
So they're strong against overused types like Dragon and weak to underused types like steel?
So I'm playing Pokemon ORAS and ran into this thing.
Why does it exist?
>make an already easy and casual game even more casual and braindead
Great this series was always shit but this takes the cake. The fact that any of you cucks are even defending this has me believe that either you guys are good at baiting or you all are actually fucking retards who can't memorize a single type being weak to another type and want your hand held even more. You guys can literally go fuck yourselves.
>>341567901
How is it being casualized? Are you one of the 12 people playing Pokemon for the first time ever? Are you too braindead to pick up on visual cues on new Pokemon to get a hint on their types? This is literally no different than encountering something then looking it up in the Pokedex after a battle.
>game for LITERAL children is casualized.
Congrats you've played the game for so long to internalize it, or expect everyone to pointlessly memorize non-intuitive shit, like Ice v. Flying, Ground v. Poison, or Bug v. Dark
Goddamn I bet people even want to go back to hellish EV training that took straight up autistic levels of grinding.
>>341567168
>there are 3 types of pokemon
great analogy fucker
>>341544313
>being mad that a childrens game is catering to children
I'm sure this post has been made but I don't have that kind of time
>>341567771
Heart scales since they didn't want to include luvdisc from memory.
im still mad they tell you what type your pokemon is or what moves it has.
>>341569242
im still mad they show you your pokemons hp and ap for moves
>>341569326
I can't believe they are STILL showing pokemon's names and appearance. Do you also want warm milk before your nap?
>>341569326
I'm still mad they even tell you your pokemon.
>>341564140
>We'll reach 500+ posts like this and >>341564808 will be ignored
>>341567495
Starters usually learn their STAB moves very early.
It's true that pokemon can learn other types of moves, starters always get a STAB move before a non-STAB move.
I'm not saying that it's 100% water/fairy but the chances are pretty high.
>>341567665
Pretty much.
Shin Megami Tensei did this. I don't know what makes it so heretical in Pokemon. Especially considering the former is supposed to be a mature game for mature gamers such as myself while the latter is literally made for grade schoolers.
>>341545003
What's even the point of removing it? It's not like it's auto selecting the move, it's just there.
>>341569647
>you just caught a yellow thunder mouse
>would you like to give it a nickname?
>>341544313
Fucking. Finally.
Like I am sorry, it was gay as fuck before. You either had to keep the stupid type table open whenever a battle mattered, or you had to memorize the whole thing which frankly I'd say 99.99% of players haven't or literally can't do.
