How do i get into dorf fort?
You don't
>beds
>food source from gathering/farming/money
>office for manager
congrats you can do what you want now
>Acquire autism
>Apply autism
>>341511179
why the two bridges on the north river?
>>341512330
It's autism
>>341511179
also try masterwork, its a lot more forgiving and has more content
Go in 100% blind, use google if you have a question.
any other way is shit
>>341512525
Fuck off Meph you stupid thief
>>341511179
You just play it, if you want to get ideas on what to do to have !FUN! you can go on the forums or the wiki.
The wiki has a great starter guide, use LazyNewbPack (the new version) or use Masterwork for a fun experience that adds to the original dwarf fortress experience.
The new lazy newb pack: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=7622
Masterwork dwarf fortress: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=5315
Tutorial: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Quickstart_guide
>>341512770
>Masterwork
Literal shit
>>341512478
Also air lock those bridges so that when the water freezes invaders don't come in
I'll probably get shit for this but Gnomoria is a good way to learn the gameplay/style before diving into Dorf Fort. It's nowhere near as deep as DF but is MUCH more newbie-friendly, both in how to actually DO shit and in interface and userfriendlyness. Once you've gotten that down, DF won't be that bad to learn, and will be much more rewarding/potentially hilarious.
Reminds me, I need to check up on Roomcarnage.
Play with a tut or read the wiki with some comfy ass music.
>>341511179
Become autistic.
>>341512903
>Literal shit
>no reasons given
back to >>>/reddit/
>>341513726
>Wasn't around for all the massive shitstorms around masterwork
>Playing shitty megacomp mods to begin with
How about you turn 18 before you start posting?
>>341511179
What tile set is that?
My biggest gripe is with DF that there's too much stuff for the game to be entirely ASCII.
Is dwarf fortress ever gonna get mouse compatible interface, half the trouble of learning how to play is having to stare at the key list to get what you need
>>341511179
You remove that ugly tile set
>>341513726
It came out of an asshole
>>341513726
Lel fuck off faggot.
Masterwork has some good stuff in it, but you have to deal with tons of shit.
>>341514230
Looks like Phoebus to me
>>341511179
Just play it.
>All this ripping on masterwork
I was recommended it but haven't gotten around to trying it yet
What am I in for, spare no details
>>341515347
Bloat and stolen mods
>start game
>build base
>everything going well
>suddenly everyone is fucked
>hundreds of dwarves start arriving
>dwarves dig too deep
>constant invasions from the surface
>elves decide to bring only string and cats to trade before winter
wtf?
>>341515347
It's shit. Everything's ugly as sin. Laggy as balls. Certain button combinations BSOD your computer.
>>341511179
Get rid of the tileset.
Get the dwarf therapist thing.
Make a forum account and ask a thousand questions.
There you go, you've become an autist.
>extra-autist mode
Figure out the tools to make your very own designer world first.
Don't forget to set boogeyman types to 0.
>>341515547
that makes me fucking uncomfortable
>>341511179
Download it
Be confused for 6 hours
Finally get something to work
Die
Try again
STORY TIME
/V/ TELL ME A STORY ABOUT DF
TELL ME A STORY ABOUT YOUR FIRST EXPEDITION INTO A HAUNTED BIOME
>>341515547
can you eat cats yet?
>>341515921
you could always butcher and eat any animal you get, cats included
>>341515864
>lol this'll be FUN
>embark
>lock eyes with a pack of 6 undead gorillas
>mid-slaughter notice flesh-rotting blood started falling from the sky
>never embark in haunted biome ever again
>>341516554
>undead gorillas
no want trabble
>>341515547
why is killing people in public illegal again?
>>341516861
The innocent wanted justice, the guilty wanted mercy, she wanted chips
>>341515864
Okay
>Embark into a terrifying (haunted+savage) jungle area
>My dwarves are melanin enriched for whatever reason
>Spend countless hours digging and pumping through the shitty multi leveled aquifer with very limited success
>Forced to live on the surface farming rice and lychee and living in wooden shacks
>My dwarves are literal niggerchinks
>During this multi-armed monkey like creatures show up
>Militia is sent in to disperse them via unarmed combat
>Militia is instead eaten, but the monkeys wander off
>It rains harmless dwarven blood every now and again
Overall far more peaceful and uneventful than expected
>>341511521
dont forget a well
also get and use the program called Dwarf Therapist for job management
>>341518382
You don't need a well until you've got a proper hospital.
The wounded are going to die anyways until then.
>>341518654
my first fort died due to thirst because my water source froze during the winter
Fucking migrants, the gate is closed but they still keep coming.
I have to dedicate an ass-tonne of time for engaving and placing slabs because they walk into an ambush or die of starvation in their shanty-town outside of the vault.
>>341515864
>>341516554
>>341517905
need haunted or terrifying starting tips
>>341519150
>NEW MIGRANTS HAVE ARRIVED
>check skills
>Poet
>comedian
>milker
>>341519275
Strike the earth hard and fast.
Before you do much digging, get a wooden door built and get everything inside the hole, you'll need the miners to help move everything quick.
>>341519050
>drinking water
It's like you want to start riots.
Dorfs will start killing each other if not kept boozed up. Bring a lot of alcohol on embark and if you run out before you've got farms up, gather and brew surface plants.
>>341514372
Interfaces are kind of a pain in the ass to make.
Are computers advanced enough to have a 3D interface in real time for dwarf fortress?
What about deep blue?
>>341519275
Don't bring anything you wouldn't want to fight to the death.
Your first or their second.
>>341520453
3D adaptations have been made.
The underlying systems of dorf fort aren't interactive enough to make it interesting in that way.
>>341519596
Do dwarfs get bad thoughts for eating migrants?
What if it's mixed with other ingredients/processed into a paste?
>>341521345
You can't butcher sentients, sadly.
However, with enough effort you can get their bones seperated and make shit from those.
>>341511179
wait for a UI
proceed to never play the game
be a happier person for it
Do you actually need that Dwarf Therapist shit or any other mods to play this? I know Dorf isnt really a roguelike but the only other game I played with an ASCII artstyle I guess was Cataclysm:DDA so its not like I care for texture packs.
>>341511179
start by removing those ugly ass sprites and putting a prettier ASCII instead.
>>341521534
...I remember night creatures butcher sentients all the time.
Is it possible to get a pet night creature yet?
>>341521658
For dwarf-mode, yes, it is absolutely necessary.
At least last time I played.
>>341521787
you might be able to chain up a zombie or even better a necromancer, afaik zombies will rip everyones shit off
>>341521978
But can you cook the bits?
i havent played since minecarts were added
is it easier to make a magma forge just by carting magma up versus making a fuckign fireproof pumpstack
>>341521534
Why can't you do this in DF but you can in rimworld?
Consider playing Rogue or Ultima first, so you can get acclimated to a text-based environment.
>>341521658
I would recommend downloading the lazynewbpack. http://lazynewbpack.com/
Its a mod manager that has dwarf therapist and dfhack which are the two big mods that dramatically improve ease of use. You don't NEED the mods, but they make the game much less clunky, especially when you get above 100 dwarfs.
My biggest issue with dwarf fortress isI don't understand enough english to figure out how to properly start metalworking
There is a shitload of ore names and materials and furniture names that I simply don't understand without looking it up.
lads is it okay to speed up dwarves with dfhack? once I did it to clean up trash and got used to it so i didn't want to go back to them being slow as fuck compared.
Does it make them super fast in combat too? if not I could continue using it
>>341511179
A. Be unemployed with shitloads of time on your hand
B. Watch 51ppycup's tutorials on Youtube
That's how I did it. However, I have a job now so Adventure Mode is all I can enjoy.
>>341522475
nigga aint too many english speaking people know limonite from magnetite before playing either
just keep the guide pics handy
>>341511179
to play basic dwarf fortress you need to understand the following
>raising and lowering z-levels, have at least 55 iq to understand you are working in 3 dimensions
>digging down with up/down stairs and tunneling out dirt
>create stockpiles underground and tune their contents to the valuable shit your dwarves brought in the wagon
>learn difference between "zones" and "stockpiles"
>create zones for your animals to graze in on the surface, create zone (or maybe its a stockpile) for refuse, garbage, corpses and shit
>dwarves that arent mining are chopping down the forest and gathering herbs, hunting
>create a meeting place for your dwarves underground with a zone
>create wood stockpiles
>create workshops
>produce chairs for your dwarves to sit in to make them happy
>build farming plots underground
>build a brewery
>mass produce beds, luxury goods
>have idle dwarves polishing your stone hallways
>carve out living quarters
>design your fortress to function efficiently, manage logistics of resource gathering and production
>find precious jewels, have jeweler dwarves cut them, shine them, craftdwarves create jewel encrusted goods
>create trade depot
>trade your dwarven goods for new seeds and equipment
i gotta reinstall this shit
>>341522475
Man when you're learning DF you're looking shit up every five seconds no matter what language you speak.
>>341515547
>She even closes her eyes while eating food from the gorund
We're doomed to die, we're not becoming the next leading race in the universe, I don't even think we'll let alone get the ability to travel to the next star system with people like these in our current generation
>>341522475
>make ash from wood in a woodburner
>use it to smelt metals from ore in a smelter
>create metal objects at a metal smithing shop
It's not rocket science dude
>>341522943
that could take years for a normal human to achieve
>>341523321
rocket science in dwarf fort when
I hear it runs like shit in this day and age. If you got an XP OS it will run better.
Was I lied by/v/, /v/?
>reach community of about 500 dwarves
>computer starts overheating
WE HAVE REACHED CRITICAL MASS
>>341511521
I found that my population growth outpaced my farming capacity, even when I avoided mining valuable stones.
It's a fun game but I dunno when I'll next go back to it. It takes a lot of patience, hours of work can be lost to a random werewolf attack.
>>341511179
Ask them to lower the dorf bridge and open the dorf door. If you ask nice enough they might let you in.
>>341523861
nah, just bring booze
![847ad77dc5[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/u5M2Jqt.png "847ad77dc5[1].png")
Last time I played DF, one of my random worker dwarves decided to pick a fight with the tortoise, but the tortoise promptly hid in its shell and the guy wouldn't give up, so he spent half a season punching and biting the tortoise and kept passing out from exhaustion and waking up and going right back to it
I finally decided enough is enough so I drafted one of the hunters into a squad and ordered him to go kill it, and after running out of bolts on the shell the hunter just bashed it with his steel crossbow so hard that he broke the shell clean off, then he, the original dwarf, and some other passerby all chased the terrified, injured tortoise down and beat it into a mutilated, mangled pulp
Then my game crashed
Pic related
>>341522197
In theory, but you have to figure out minecarts to do that.
What's the best way to kill as many dwarves as possible without causing your fortress to implode
>>341523562
It's bottlenecked by the way it uses CPU cores, the best thing you can do for it is have a powerful CPU but even with top tier stuff it'll run like shit at high population levels regardless of your OS or hardware
>>341524102
keep them in isolation so they dont have time to make friends, find spouses, have children, form relationships
if they dont know the dwarf that died they wont give a fuck
>>341524252
if migrants arrive is there a fireproof way to kill them before they interact with others
Tips for Adventure mode?
>>341518382
I don't fucking understand how wells work. How do I make them not be dry?
>>341524401
cut off your hand, reanimate it and keep it as a pet
>>341524362
you could build a giant draw bridge out of dolomite, that cant be melted by magma i think. and smash them as they come in
>>341524485
Build them above watter.
>>341524490
This is why df is df
Also great idea, I should try it
>>341524362
Make them cross a long retracting bridge to get into the fort
Order everyone else to stay inside via burrows
Pull a lever to retract the bridge and drop them all into a moat or something as they try to enter
If you're gonna do all this shit though you might as well just set a hard population cap
>>341524485
It needs to have flowing water directly underneath it, if you want an artificial well it's going to take a lot of work, you'll need to set up a pump system to circulate water underneath it because a well over stagnant water is a bad idea
>>341524550
excellent
trump approves
>>341524145
I also heard you are always fighting against time and if you start fucking around you will get raped when the invasion comes.
Is that true?
>>341524618
What counts as above water? Should the water be directly under the well one layer lower?
I'm about to start playing again. Haven't played since 40.24. Were the updates any good? Are the taverns as fun as they sound? How exactly does that technology bullshit work? What the fuck am I in for, boys?
>>341524731
Not really, it's trivially easy to make a completely impregnable fortress, even if you don't even have any weapons in your fort it's very simple to set up drawbridges so nobody can get inside and just have everyone stay indoors until the invaders either get bored and fuck off or get killed by a trade caravan's guards
>>341523981
I once had an entire fort of over 30 dwarves kicking the shit out of a were-horse until they all passed out and died of dehydration. It started off with just the Militia who bruised the entire thing but couldn't finish it off then one by one the civilians also joined in whenever they got too close.
>>341515547
>white people
>>341524731
if you have a drawbridge, an army of goblins has no way of breaking through.
master vampires can come in disguised as dwarves though, and dragons will set the entire map on fire, invasions can catch you with your drawbridge open
>>341524820
The distance doesn't matter. It just has to be above water with no obstacles between the water and the well.
>>341524656
>not purifying stagnant water with fire
Also the well should make it non stagnant anymore, am I wrong?
Just applying real life logic, can you do it in game?
>yfw elephants
jesus christ
>>341524913
>Are the taverns as fun as they sound?
Yes, for once they give you a reason not to seal off from the world.
It's also nice to be able to play as Jew-Dwarves and have a mercenary army.
>>341522217
Dorfs have standards and are civilized, they aren't space-convicts.
You can eat people in adventure mode, though.
>>341524930
To add to this I once had a fort where just for a fun thing I dug down and completely hollowed out a z-level around 60 or so, then built a stone city, brought water down for farms, and had another area set up for cave tree farming, and just sealed the top off and had my fort completely self-sufficient, only ever opening it for new migrants and occasionally traders
Once you know what you're doing you don't even need access to the surface and it's easy to make a completely invasion-proof self-sustaining fortress
>>341525016
how do you handle master vampires? Or even find them for that matter?
>>341525528
There are lots of ways, what I like to do is, once I'm sure of a person being a vampire, I have a special room I order them to go stand in
Once they're inside, drawbridges raise to seal it, a pump starts pouring water into the chamber until it's completely full, then a hatch in the center of the room is opened and the vampire is flushed with the water down a long shaft and lands in the caves where the fall kills him instantly, then I throw up a stone slab for him somewhere so he doesn't come back as a ghost
>>341515864
I had some problems with a few thralls before I finished my wall, but after that it was pretty standard. Seal off from the world and live a nice and quiet dorf live. Until the cloud came. When it came, everyone on the surface turned into thralls and started slaughtering the other dorfs. I managed to build a little wall on the last layer of my fort with only 3 remaining dorfs. All of them went mad and killed themselves though.
>>341524252
>mfw
It's so hilarious to read but so true in context. You must create the worst possible conditions for your Dorfs but ultimately you're protecting them for as long as you can because you know that 30 minutes from then they'll have lost their arm, cat, and best friend.
And that's a really good-case scenario.
>>341524913
Taverns are great. You can field a non-dwarf army with the help of mercenaries.
>>341525528
it can be difficult especially when the master vampire has been promoted to mayor of the entire fortress
>>341512330
dwarves will see a water with a depth of 2 and say "oh hey I can through this" for pathfinding.
the problem is when you have a waterfall. dwarves will see that the water were the waterfall...falls...is shallow enough that they can walk through it.
so they try to walk through it and instead get pushed off the cliff from the water flow and fall to their deaths
>>341526078
do master vampire mayors do any special vampire orders?
>>341525528
Look for the guy covered in jewelry, often made of sentient beings, and check if they're a member of three gorillion civilizations or worship a foriegn god.
Also, if the undead ignore them, they're definitely a vamp.
>>341526226
mayors will create work orders for dwarves and demand the production of certain goods be increased, so technically if that vampire mayor dwarf really likes mahogany and coffins he might order everyone to build 1000 mahogany coffins
he might also rage out if there isnt any mahogany
>>341524731
Not really, invasions are triggered more by fortress wealth than by time.
>>341511179
You play adventure mode and dick around the world acting like you're cool guy building your own super cool wooden hut.
>>341515562
this. tilesets are for faggots. go hard or don't go at all.
>>341526078
o shit
What do you shoot from your shotguns?
>>341527609
>jewels
>not lead
Nigga cmon
>>341522943
I start by woodlands, 2miner/1mason, 1carpenter, 2farmer, 1mayor/organizer/hitler
Set up small base with small stockpile, produce depot, Mass produce bed/wood carts.
Wait for first trade oppurntunity, set up farms and walls. Trade every wood cart worth 50c for any good gear. Since I made atleast 50 wood carts of varying quality, easy peezy mode activated.
Since now my base is worth a bit, migrants up the ass, assign them needed jobs like smelter/armorer/weaponsmith. Now i have unstopple militia. GG
>>341527609
Refuse, mostly, but occasionally bolts or stones.
Dead goblin bits do surprisingly well against soft targets.
>>341518382
>Therapist haven't been updated yet
Why even live
>Spend 2 hours making an underground bridge
>Game crashes
>Doesn't save
FUCK
>>341525304
They aren't so bad nowadays.
>>341525429
Yeah but you can't wear their skin.Or can you?
>alligator strays too close to my seven starting dorfs
>they all start beating the alligator to death with their fists
>alligator gets knocked out but they can't kill it
>all 7 of them do literally nothing but punch an unconscious alligator for days, knocking ALL of its teeth out
>eventually they get so tired from alligator punching that they pass out
>alligator wakes up and wrestles all of them to death, strangling them in between its legs
>>341529338
Did a recent update change the way aggro works? When I played a couple years ago I swear I never had a problem with my civilians killing themselves trying to punch wildlife
>>341529338
>He didn't draft his miners
>He didn't draft his woodcutter
Just make them into military, then they attack with axes/picks senpai
>>341529496
Sometimes non-combatant dwarves will just get angry at an animal "attacking" someone and intervene. I think it was part of the ambitions update or whatever.
>>341529338
Did you not start with picks and axes?
>>341529338
>punch an alligator with their fists for days
why are dwarves so awesome
>>341523231
Eating food off the ground will actually prolong the human species
We're burning through our immunity by killing off all the germs we can survive
>>341529605
Pickaxes are my weaponfu in DF.
>dat contact size
>dat strike modifier
They hit harder than axes and penetrate better than spears & daggers.
Miners are the true master-race.
>>341529605
It happened like 5 seconds after I unpaused
>>341529839
I don't start with picks and axes anymore, I just start with the raw material to forge bronze stuff on-site because it's cheaper
>>341530234
Always start with scratch, no casual here.
What do you guys recommend for starting animals, i normally do a few cats, dogs, then more chickens and rabbits.
>>341530726
Dogs, cats, and whatever egg laying animal I feel like having
>>341530726
>cats
http://www.mkv25.net/dfma/movie-518-nuclearcatsplosion
>>341530726
3 dogs, 2 cats and any turkeys I can afford
>>341530726
>cats
I'd rather lose a few seeds to vermin then have thousands of fucking dead gerbils piled everywhere
Best animals are two turkeys, then a dog or two as hunting assistance or sentry.
You can just buy the rest over time. Save the points for embark skill.
>>341511179
Download lazynewbpack and load up the DF wiki thenSTRIKE THE EARTH
Do you guys embark with skill points on your dwarves? I find that experience in things like woodcutting and mining builds so fast that I don't even put a single point into them anymore and just use those points for more seeds and drinks
>>341531141
>thousands of dead gerbils
but that is half the charm
>>341531209
Same, crafting skills are good though because it means better early trading.
I always get the anvil via trade too.
>>341531209
Combat skills are pretty important at the start bro
>>341511179
tile
sets
>>341531438
Eh I just make 1-3 people in the first few migrant waves into hunters and usually by the time I actually need something dead they're highly skilled marksdwarves, this is good enough until I get around to making a barracks and training some soldiers
Eh, I don't know, I've been playing DF for years (with breaks).
I figured out most of it, can create perfectly-efficient fortress, self-sufficient, with unimaginable treasuries, fully covered with engravings, golden furniture, extremely powerful military who can easily wrestle dragons to death.
After reaching 200 population I usually get bored with the game, as no legendary creature can really posses a danger, most of underground is cleared and made safe.
I also became bored with superconstructions.
I miss my beginner's time with DF, when building a raising bridge was a huge problem.
Saying all that, I still fail to understand carts and its transportation over Z-levels.
>>341531481
if you have to use tilesets, you are NEVER going to be able to get very deep into DF. don't bother playing it if you can't figure out the ascii. you're simply too stupid to play this game, if so.
>>341531812
>This is what autismos actually believe
