So, we all agree that changing GoW gameplay would be a biiiig mistake. Right?
GoW was a button masher. It NEEDED it's gameplay changed, just preferably to something that was better.
making a sequel was already a big mistake
>>341503909
But the button masher gameplay was fun, i dont see why it needed to be changed into generic over the shoulder gameplay.
old god of war was too video gamey
modern gamers want cinematic experiences
>>341503909
It wasn't thaat masher.. You could use a lot of combinations... Only begginers or casuals mashed buttons.
>>341503652
>Dev realize GoW's gameplay is absolute crap
>Make a story focused game instead
Brilliant.
Too bad it ripoff TLOU's shit story. I would love a story focused but the son shit feels forced and out of place
>>341503652
I do, actually. Turning it into a narrative driven, over-the-shoulder slow-paced action game does nothing for it that you couldn't have done if they had just simply kept it as an action platformer WITH some dramatic narrative about hunting wildlife with your son. I was hoping for a return to the crazy character action game with the same one dimensional protag so I could just not have to feign interest in a mediocre video game story but eh, you can't always win.
>>341504109
>the button masher gameplay was fun
>>341503652
ugh every fucking franchise has to be deep and gay now
>>341503909
It's "button mashing" gameplay gave GoW it's identity. The way it's set pieces gave you a sense of wonderment makes you feel like this ant that could topple the world. And in the end, you did.
>>341504204
/thread
>>341503652
game looks fine
gomenasai
>>341504109
>generic over the shoulder gameplay.
Only God Hand and this have over the shoulder action combat
>>341504342
You could use it but it wasn't required at all and actually was less efficiant than spam for DPS. A good character action game is one which forces you to play well and use everything. GoW never did this and was thus a shallow boring piece of shit series that only had the set pieces and graphics going for it (and sex minigames for pathetic virgins to fap)
>>341504951
You can't really try to argue that people didn't enjoy the past SEVEN games in the series.
>>341505365
He mean in the context of generic games of today
>>341505435
Peoples have shit tastes and no standards. This argument is irrelevant.
>>341505435
If you played anything other than the first 2 (MAYBE 3) and liked them, you really have a problem
>>341503652
GoW gameplay was always baby first BTA tier
Anyone read that article where the devs said the combat was made intentionally shallow? Maybe some anon has the link, I think the site was "vg24" or some shit
I actually tought the gameplay changes could have been interesting but after reading that, well...
>>341505264
Yes. It actually looks fine. But old gameplay was so good. And This makes me think that we will never get a "classic" GoW. And old gameplay wasn't even flawed. Just the last GoW was bad. The other 5 games was soooo good...
Not really.
GoW was nothing special and it was already getting bland after the second one.
Since you cannot expect Western devs to just copy Japanese combat which is actually good, because of some curious, chronic inability to ever realise how trash western action games are, they've changed to some over-the-shoulder character action thing instead.
Lads if I never played a GoW game should I start with the prequels or GoW1?
Even if you didn't care for GOW's play style, you can't tell me with a straight face that THIS was the direction it should have taken. And the fact that they're trying to make GOWs narrative serious is laughable. Half the fun was how over the top ridiculous it was
>>341504091
you talking about GoW2?
because the new one isn't a sequel
>>341506686
You're not missing much with the prequels. 1-3 are fun and worth a look. The PSP ports if you feel like later, don't bother with Acension
Really the series just needed to die period and this game not be a God of War game at all and just another shitty movie game.
The hack and slash was boring as fuck after playing 6 fucking games with it and at that point they can't really carry on with it.
People who played like 1 game are the only ones bitching
>inb4 Kratos dies in the tutorial and you play as his son
>>341503652
if they change the gameplay, are we still going to be able to call things "god of war clones"??
>>341507241
I suppose I cant go wrong with the ps3 hd collections?
>>341503652
Well to be honest GoW had like 6 games of the same button mashing bullshit.
I wouldn't say making GoW into The Last of Us was a good idea, but rather leave the series dead and make a new IP.
>>341503652
no, its great
stfu
>>341507403
1-3 were solid, the prequels I didn't care for.
>>341503652
Looks horrible I really wish devs would stop with the muh cinematic gameplay shit, its okay every once in a while but when every game uses it it gets old real quick
The new gameplay style looks good.
>>341507561
Yeah that should be fine.
>>341505745
Bcause they don't like obscure games, they have shit taste.
What gameplay? The absolute worst gameplay in the entire fucking character action genre?
God of War was a shit franchise, it was never good, Devil May Cry3 and Ninja Gaiden came out BEFORE God of War did and were far superior in all aspects.
honestly changing genre was the best thing they could do because western devs aren't capable of making good action games, it's just not something they can do.
>>341503652
It needed to be changed. To a better action game, not to a Ryse clone with your wife's son tagging along for extra feels.
Sony is creatively bankrupt.
>people say this is a good change because the formula was getting stale
>change is to a formula that is also stale
Somehow I get the feeling that pic related might be in effect as well.
>god of souls
not sure how i feel about this
>>341507434
>wife's son
Ftfy
>>341506686
Play 1-3. Prequels sucked.
>>341507403
Ah the old fallacious appeal to our credibility. I played all of them dipshit and I don't think that turning this game into The Last of Us is a good idea. GoW was never the best in its genre, but it was still enjoyable and fun for what it was. This is just another demonstration of the pathetic turn this industry is taking. Prepare for 2 hours of gameplay and 6 hours of cutscenes.
>>341507943
thanks
>>341503652
No, GoW has been shit since game 2.
>>341507737
Psp ones were fine for what they were, ascension was dog shit.
>>341503652
>would
they DID change it, and no it was a good idea.
>Zelda finally gets the ability to jump
>GoW loses the ability to jump
it's like poetry
it rhymes
>>341503909
Because refining the combat would be too much to ask for, right?
>>341503652
God of War was all about spectacle. It was that pop corn blockbuster you played only for the presentation, the character was badass and edgy for the sake of being badass and edgy, and it worked that way.
I never liked it, I always thought the gameplay was mediocre, but at least the game had a strong identity.
This new shit tho, feels like they made a nordic narrative movie game then swapped the hero skin with Kratos'.
I would've liked it if they attempted to work on the old combat to put emphasis on actually doing combos and shit, but I don't like what they did at all
>/v/ pretends to hate GOW episode
How's DmC and Bayonetta 2: Wii U working out for you fellas?
nah I hate button mashers like musous and god of war
Get bored of them after 20 minutes. This one actually looks good.
>>341508187
I don't play many cinematic dad simulators, quit The Last of Us like 2 hours in because it was shit.
this however is a dad simulator with a manly as fuck stern yet cool dad who has a magical ice throwing axe in norse mythology.
Also the original God of War franchise was pointless dogshit in comparison to almost any Japanese game in the genre. So this was a good change.
rather than trying to make a better action game, something that is impossible for western devs, they just changed genre so it wouldn't have to be compared to better games.
>>341503652
I would not mind the change to gameplay if they didn't make him look like a wrinkled old man from Skyrim. Those muscles and skin texture suppose to look impressive?
>>341508814
Bayonetta 2 isn't as good as the first but still an excellent action game.
DmC is sadly the best western action game out there aside from maybe Darksiders 2, which is a huge sign that western devs shouldn't even bother with the genre.
>>341503652
No, GoW 2 was the series peak. They had to change it.
>>341508598
>Zelda gains the ability to jump
>Removes it for no reason
>Adds it back in 20 years later to praise by 12 year olds
>Zelda gains the open world, open ended dungeon design
>Removes it for no reason
>Add it back in 30 years later to praise by 12 year olds
I hate Nintendo so fucking much.
>>341503652
People act like GoW is a button masher but on regular hard mode it was easily up there with DMC1 &3 in terms of difficulty.
Then again, most of you filthy casuals ever beat Ninja Gaiden or Shinobi, so I don't even know why I'm posting this.
God of War used to be the series were I said "well at least Sony has GoW as their gameplay focused game".
>>341503652
Because the series' original gameplay was such a masterpiece of action game design, right?
I mean, no way to improve on THAT formula.
I don't see how you can have interesting combat with that camera angle or control scheme.
I guess they're no longer concerned about that though.
>>341508047
>DMCand Ninja Gaiden
>superior in all aspects
No they were superior in combat depth.
GoW has them both beat in execution, sense of scale, and the fluidity of the combat system. Even though it was simple, the way Kratos danced around the battlefield was insanely good, especially for PS2 games. Even the gore was done right. Gore done wrong: Mortal Kombat. Playing on normal was pretty easy. It became auper difficult on the hardest difficulty, where you felt you had to exploit certain combos, thanks to all the bs super armor attacks.
Ninja Gaiden was frustrating in some ways, because of mechanics (off screen attacks, etc). DMC was decent with 1, horrendous with 2, and had a surprisingly deep combat engine in 3, most likely unintentionally.
GoW also had casual appeal. Didn't seem to Japanese-Y and cuhrayzay. Bald angry dude killing gods. Easy to pick up.
GoW is power fantasy. NG and DMC are not. They're all fantastic games in certain regards.
The new GOW seems to play more like Souls with finishing attacks. Santa Monica is one of the top 5 studios right now. They'll make it work.
>>341508875
You do realize that all you'll be doing is mashing R1 the entire time, right? The real God of War games actually had combos. Not on the level of God Hand or DMC, but it was a hell of a lot more than what they just showed us.
>>341509253
thing is NG and Shinobi have good combat systems that are enjoyable to play and God of War doesn't.
>>341508047
define good.
>mfw watching that trailer
How did they manage to take a hack n slash and turn it into YET ANOTHER slow, boring moviegame?
>>341508913
>Also the original God of War franchise was pointless dogshit in comparison to almost any Japanese game in the genre. So this was a good change.
Oh yes, thank god they changed it from pointless dogshit to even more pointless dogshit.
>>341509290
If that's the case then good riddance, the gameplay was always dogshit anyways.
first game came out AFTER Devil May Cry 3. lol at anyone who thinks it was good for its time, it was shit. God of War 2 had stunning graphics for the PS2 and that's where my praise for this shit series ends.
>>341509348
Not that it will be anywhere near as good, but
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp2uqkJgwuc
>mfw watching the guy playing the demo mime the attacks like a sperg
>mfw realizing he pressed a QTE to watch a movie
>>341509496
Devil May Cry 3 SE
Devil May Cry 4 SE
Ninja Gaiden Black
Bayonetta
Bayonetta 2
>>341509524
Lowest common denominator, anon.
Anything is better than the "QTEs and mash square to win" gameplay of the old GoW games. It's hard to be worse than that.
>>341509395
>Santa Monica is one of the top 5 studios right now.
yeah they've been on a real roll with games like PSASBR and Ascension
>>341509749
and what exactly makes those good and not god of war?
>shitty action game franchise for bros becomes shitty AAA formula title for bros
ashes to ashes, shit to shit
>>341508913
I implore you to retread TLOU. First two hours were meant for casuals to learn how to play.
Don't short change yourself. Get a headset and play it through. Not even trolling. No other game makes you feel stressed out in a good way via gameplay like TLOU does. Almost impossible to explain.
Hardcore oldfag here. Rent it or some shit. Nothing compares to it (doesn't mean it's GOAT). Don't miss out.
>>341509965
Deep combat
fast responsive gameplay
challenge
replay value
>>341503652
They literally made a completely new game and slapped "God of War" into it to attract the normies.
>>341509965
Where to even fucking start?
literally everything about the gameplay, characters, audiovisual presentation,
GoW is just a dumbed down version of a real spectacle action game made for a broader audience, replacing the satisfaction of skillful gameplay and learning with the satisfaction of "lol epic" QTEs
>>341510083
I found the stealth shit
I found the shooting shit
I found the characters and story shit
I'd rather play a game that actually gets to the point like Evil Within or Alien Isolation if I want to be stressed out.
>>341509965
Not him but
You could get comfortable playing them in a single afternoon, but you could replay them every day for a year and still never master them.
>>341510083
Ignore this fag and just play RE4 again, it does everyone TLOU tries to do better.
>the last of us
>uncharted 4
>days gone
>god of war reboot
>detroit
>The order 1886
im really tired of every sony franchise being a boring moviegames 2bh
new spiderman looks good tho
>if it's not as good as the best games in the genre it's shit
I never understood this reasoning.
>>341509957
You realize they're the "clean up" crew for literally every first party game?
GoW is their franchise. PSABR was mediocre. Ascension wasnt as shitty as people make it out to be, it was just more of the same, and the multiplayer was a good week or two of spartan bashing.
>over the shoulder camera
>melee combat
no, that's not how it works
OTS camera is awful for this kind of game
>>341510382
inb4 Peter Parker has a shitty kid you have to drag around
Surrogate children are literally the cartoon sidekicks of the 2010s.
I'm going to be honest, I couldn't bring myself to replay any of the Uncharted games or LoU. At least with GOW I kind find some replay value with ng+. I hope new gameplay will show classic combat
>>341510437
Shinobi isn't as good as the best games in the genre. Bayonetta 2 isn't as good as the best games in the genre.
GoW isn't even on the same planet
>people hate on GoW for not being DMC
>now its praised as a great action game and it sucks Sony changed it
>>341510584
you're right, but they chose that camera because it's more cinematic. the combat is all going to slow and simplified like we saw in the trailer.
games are for children, anon. filmic experiences are the future.
>>341510785
Okay.
>>341503652
No. Fuck your consensus. God of War got stagnant and they are trying to change it up.
>>341510437
More like
>it doesn't play like DMC or Ninja Gaiden so it's shit
>>341510975
By making it another stagnant genre.
>>341510975
>"change it up" by making it a moviegame during a time when sony is releasing like 8 moviegames a year
Let's just see how it turns out
>>341510378
this right there.
>>341508047
All the games you mentioned have shit weeb artstyles.
>>341510570
>Santa Monica is one of the top 5 studios right now.
>Ascension wasnt as shitty as people make it out to be
Boy oh boy real top 5 material here, the last game they made "wasn't as shitty" as people think and they've been spending the intervening period doing QA for shitty indie games.
I'm really having trouble thinking of better studios than this.
>>341510329
>14 hr game
>expect first 2 to have deep stealth and combat
Come on. And those two games you listed. You don't know what you're missing if you even remotely enjoyed those.
>>341510380
No. NO. Shut the fuck up. I played RE4 at launch on GC. Bought the PS2 port. Played it AGAIN on Wii. RE4 is good. Story is nonexistent. Gameplay was decent. I loved it. Ignore every Te after that and Capcom would have a top 10 franchise.
TLOU is not even remotely similar to RE4. Never mind the focus on shooting in RE4 vs TLOU. How you could even suggest one as the alternative to the other shows your inexperience with gaming. You should find a new hobby.
>>341509429
That's your opinion though, which imo is wrong.
God of War 1 was decent, God of War 2 was top notch. 3 was solid but it was insanely short. Ascension is the only one that was legitimate trash.
>>341510584
>>341510847
Reminder that God Hand had over-the-shoulder camera in all fights
GoW isn't gonna be God Hand but don't make generalizations like that
>>341503652
>So, we all agree that changing GoW gameplay would be a biiiig mistake. Right?
No.
These changes are refreshing. From the gameplay (from what we know) to the storytelling.
What exactly is negative about these changes?
>>341503652
>my wife's son
>>341511562
>These changes are refreshing
>more TLoU shit
It looks exactly like the last of us
>>341511340
I can't see how it gets deeper, it's not fucking Metal Gear Solid or Arkham.
the core mechanics and controls and AI seemed shit. If you're telling me the entire fucking game changes the entire core design of the gameplay 10 hours in I'm not going to believe you.
I don't want those core mechanics but with slightly more challenging scenarios to use them in, I want better stealth period and better combat period.
>>341511524
a lot of the dev team on the new God of War are ex-Naughty Dog employees.
it's a pretty safe assumption that the game will be boring and "cinematic" throughout the whole game. that 15 minute trailer is exactly what we're gonna get with the actual game.
>>341503652
nope, I never played old GoW and I will be playing the new one because of the new direction
>>341511207
>>341511223
>I've seen 8 minutes so I've seen the game.
I've seen 5+ hours of Zelda and I am not retarded enough to believe I've seen it all.
>>341511340
>n-no, this survival horror action shooter with crafting elements, inventory management, similar perspective, and a companion female ai character you have to defend through the whole game is just WAAAAAAAAY different from RE4
>>341503652
Look at the youtube trailer views and thumbs up.
gaming is fucking dead.
>>341511814
I agree.
I'm just saying, assume it will suck for those reasons. Not for the camera angle
>>341511562
the new gameplay sucks, it's slow, you're tied to the ground, and it's watered down to the point where most of the action isn't even in your control but just in-game cutscenes. the gameplay isn't refreshing, it's moviegame bullshit.
>story
N O P E
O
P
E
kratos is, for the most part, a one dimensional character. he's been this way for for over a decade, since the first god of war came out. no amount of melodramatic and hamfisted writing can turn what is concretely established as "angry man mckills a lot" into "le emotional and conflicted step dad".
>>341512000
You remind me of those "b-b-but it's just a beta" people.
>>341503652
Watch the opening of GoW 3 again and feel the scale of that whole fight with Poseidon. You're running around on a fucking titan while fighting a giant sea horse. This new game will have none of that because they can't pull the camera back to where you look like just an ant but still have control of Kratos.
>>341512094
>a game that in my opinion looks like trash is getting good rep
>GAMINGS FUCKIN OVER MAN, FUCKIN DONE
Leave.
>gameplay downgrading is actually a thing now
Tbh a lot of the gameplay screamed The Last of Us, with the banter between the characters in non- action gameplay, the over the shoulder style, even just the way Kratos was moving. I was really worried about the gameplay, but by the end of the trailer I was actually pretty excited. Is it open world? I haven't looked into it, but it looks like it may be an open world. Still agree though, they shouldn't compromise what made God of War awesome.
>>341512251
pic related
>>341512000
The trailer is a good indication of how the actual game is. We've seen the tone of the gameplay.
All signs point to it being moviegame boringness.
>Zelda
You don't HAVE to have "seen it all" to know that Zelda is a real video game. Even watching it for ten minutes shows you how much control you have over the character and how freely you can move about the expansive world.
Things we know about new God of War:
>slow combat
>limited moveset
>enemies and even bosses are "hit square once to do an overly long kill move that you didn't even earn"
>father/son escort game a la the Last of Us
>deer hunting seen a la the Last of Us
>tons of ex-Naughty Dog developers who worked on the Last of Us
>they're advertising it as "not like the other games, this one is more cinematic and emotional" aka boring moviegame with no gameplay
>>341512251
This is actually a good thing. Pulling the camera back is a terrible way of conveying scale. A much better way is making it nearly impossible to see the whole titan at once.
This is why SotC's bosses FEEL bigger than in other games despite their comparatively small size. Because you always see them through the same lens that you see the environment through, so they feel like huge walking pieces of the environment.
>>341512824
there's no way it will be the same though, at most expect some small boss fights in closed spaces and that's it
>>341505393
Only if you were playing it on easy, if you just blindly button mashed on anything higher you'd die ... a lot.
It needed changing but, not to something even more boring.
>>341512354
>>341503652
Guys what if Platinum made a new GoW
>>341512984
Well sure.
Hey, the game is almost certainly going to be The Last of KratUs, and it looks bad.
The camera just isn't the reason. The fact that they attempted to fix an already-mediocre action game by making the combat LESS complex is the reason.
>>341512038
Re4 had solid combat mechanics that pioneered the genre on top of contextual actions that were pretty revolutionary at the time. TLOU had buggy stealth and the same gears of war playstyle that every post-2005 tps uses. The two are totally incomparable.
>>341512824
>A much better way is making it nearly impossible to see the whole titan at once.
But that also means the game has to be much slower, like SotC.
Which sucks dick for an action game.
>>341512742
>slow combat
>limited moveset
So what's different?
>>341511770
>>more TLoU shit
So you watched the trailer and labeled it "TLoU clone!" because your brain always has to dumb things down and tag them to help you comprehend things you see? Ok.
>>341512170
>the new gameplay sucks
You know borderline nothing. We haven't seen any proper combat yet. When I read the rest of your post you make it clear that you're either a massive idiot or shitposting, meaning there is little point in wasting more time on you.
>take The Last of Us but with even less gameplay
>put in in a Skyrim setting
>call it God of War
Truly, Sony is 4 the players.
>>341513265
It would be better than any other God of War but it would still not be good because the retarded 'hit everything on the damn screen' chains.
So let's say you have a long standing IP and you want two things:
1. a new IP
2. to update the old IP
Do you
a) improve upon the old IP with its existing formula and make a new IP with new gameplay
or
b) slap the existing IP onto the new IP with new gameplay because you don't have the talent or creativity to develop and sell something new or improve something old?
>>341503909
GoW is as much of a button masher as Bayonetta
>>341513381
It's even slower and more limited.
Why is his wife's son such a pussy?
I kept thinking when the actual monster appeared the camera would change to something that wasn't total dogshit for melee combat.
Shame on me for expecting more from modern Sony.
>>341505573
>He mean in the context of generic games of today
What the fuck does that mean?
I'm just going to assume everyone defending this is a drone because I really can't possibly see why anyone with a functioning brain would defend this.
Should have just let the series end with 3
>>341506196
Classic GoW became Bayonetta.
>>341513439
Its pretty cool that we can now use Skyrim as the creator of Norse mythology for shitposting purposes.
>>341513389
>i-it's meant to look extremely shallow and slow
>i-it wasn't propery combat
So should we just ignore everything in the trailer then since it'll all eventually be better somehow?
>>341503909
>SPARTAN RAGE AVAILABLE L3 + R3
>ten second long scene of Kratos wrecking the troll with no other input by the player
Fucking hell GoW may have been QTE heavy but at least they were actual quick time events. In the new game it's just an event.
>>341513358
Bayo didn't pull the camera any further out than normal (and certainly not as far back as GoW does) for the Jubileus fight
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mDBAM6OfQ1Y
>>341513701
Honestly I fucking hate the franchise and think it's dogshit so I'm glad it's making a huge change.
I mean the new game doesn't look good or anything, but the fact that this pisses off the faggots who supported that shit series fills me with joy.
>guys our action game got a bit stale, should we try to make it more like those DMC games?
>nah make it last of us with swords
Genius.
>>341508814
Bayonetta 2 is great, thanks.
FUCK No
I love God of War, but anymore of the same gameplay would of been stale.
Also anyone who calls this "cinematic garbage " is a shitposter
>>341503909
From a button masher into a QTE masher
What a shitty fate
>>341513908
>I like it because it makes people mad
How old are you?
>>341511813
>the core mechanics and controls and AI seemed shit
Well if you play it on anything other than grounded, it's gonna be shit.
Well whatever, plebs like you can go their whole life not enjoying it in the way that a guerrella warfare/stealth game should be played.
>>341505393
>i only played god of war on normal or easy
i love these posts.
>>341514008
western devs do not know how to make DMC/bayonetta style combat. No western game has ever had it. There's no precedent
>>341513771
>2 short snippets of what isn't even a real open combat scenario is 100% representative of what the full game's combat will be like
For your sake I'm assuming you're baiting. In any case, you're wasting my time with stupidity. So you'll get no more replies.
>>341509059
>Bayonetta 2 isn't as good as the first
LOL
>>341503652
isn't this the last of us 2?
>>341513813
And Jubileus was fucking slow and shitty. The worst parts of Bayo were the giant bosses.
>>341514192
Old enough to have seen Ninja Gaiden and Devil May Cry, my two favorite franchises, get ruined thanks to God of War.
Fuck this series, I hope David Jaffe gets AIDS.
>>341505961
because it wasnt trying to be DMC or ninja gaiden. it was trying to be a zelda style game. there were a lot of puzzles and exploring (granted within a linear experience)
>>341508814
DmC was good on it's own though, just a shit entry in the DMC series
>>341509749
>no dmc1
opinion dropped
>>341514389
Shit weapons, dumbed down difficulty, incredibly nerfed potential for air combos.
It's a huge step down from the first game. When played from a casual perspective Bayonetta 2 might seem better, but played at the top level Bayonetta 1 is the clear winner.
>>341514472
>get ruined thanks to God of War.
You dumb shit.
Ninja Gaiden was ruined because the original was a fluke and Itagaki is a hack.
DMC was ruined because a dumb company made stupid decisions like they'd been doing for years.
>>341514359
>the gameplay is going to drastically improve despite all indications to the contrary
>>341504204
I hate modern gamers
>>341514574
DMC1 is a clunky ass game with awkward controls and a weird half-assed attempt at being a survival horror game.
It's still a fun game but it aged incredibly poorly.
>>341507241
>>341507737
there was only 1 prequel, chains of olympus. ghost of sparta takes place in between 1 and 2
>>341514630
>Shit weapons
They are literally better in every way.
>>341507434
That's exactly what's going to happen. People are foolish to think the rumors of a more Zelda-like GoW would actually feature Dad of War the whole game.
The kid is going to become a teen that you play as in an over the shoulder action-adventure where you play the events leading up to Ragnarok.
>>341503652
>The last of gods
Fuck...
>>341512094
Why are God of War fans eating this shit up? Fucking lol
GoW might have not been perfect but at least it had it's charm. Beating Greek mythological creatures into a pulp was satisfactory. The games had a great and unique atmosphere.
>>341514793
They managed to have more variety in the actual movesets while also being way less versatile than anything in the first game. First game had weapons that were useful in any situation barring maybe the whip which wasn't good against bosses.
Second game has fast weak weapons, and slow strong weapons. Neither are very enjoyable to use when the enemies are all pushovers who don't fight back even on the highest difficulty. Also there's no fucking Durga in Bayo 2.
>>341514630
Well I see here a dude who played both Bayo 2 and 1, pure platinumed both, and says that 2 is better, and gives good reasons for them.
http://scathingaccuracy.com/reviews/239-bayonetta
http://scathingaccuracy.com/reviews/356-bayo2
>>341514239
>hurr durr less supplies and more damage, this really transforms the game :^)
>"character action"
Consider suicide, the lot of you
I just think it's sad to watch people who truly loved this series for what it was get beat down by people so starved to play literally anything on their consoles
>>341514964
source
>>341503652
Why does Kratos look like a titan now?
>>341515109
Yes anon it really does. Also, your quick google didn't tell you that it removes a lot of the UI.
>>341503652
>we all agree X, right?
Stop this. Even if you're stating something completely uncontroversial, it's condescending.
>>341514970
So true, it was nothing special gameplay wise but the set pieces were well designed and smashing huge ass shit up was pretty fun.
I was expecting this game to be the same just with Norse mythology but guess not. Shame.
>>341514175
>QTE Masher
Wasn't GoW that already?
so are you still playing as kratos?
>>341514282
As someone who beat God of War 1-3 on the hardest difficulties and did all the challenges, the only button combination you needed to actually know was Square Square Triangle. A lot of bosses required you to spam that for burst damage from very far away due to the finisher's reach and then cancel it with a roll because of how punishing the damage was.
Doing the fancier combos was actually a recipe for disaster on the harder difficulties because all they did was do more damage over many more hits, but it didn't matter because enemies ignored hitstun and would just hit you out of them on harder difficulties.
>>341515406
>I was expecting this game to be the same just with Norse mythology but guess not
It's literally the start of the game. It could escalate to that. And escalation is one thing that the GoW did wrong before too.
3 for example was the best at the very start of the game, and after you kill poseidon there's literally nothing that tops that shit.
>>341503652
as an ACTUAL God of War fan whos ACTUALLY played every game for the story, not for the gameplay because the gameplay was SHIT...
I'm happy with this change
you kids are just being cynical fucks as always, acting like you weren't impressed to appear """COOL""" and """HIP""" to others
please, kill yourselves
>>341515654
Well I hope you're right
>>341505745
dipshit
>>341515716
I'm at a loss as to what to do with you.
THE POWER
>>341515312
>haha i can't see my health or bullets this game's core mechanics are much improved
>>341515157
>I just think it's sad to watch people who truly loved this series for what it was get beat down by people so starved to play literally anything on their consoles
I liked the GoW series and have played all of them apart from Ascension.
I have yet to hear anything relevant when it comes to complaints about the new game.
I mean for fucks sake, even something like Kratos as a character has been complained about and made fun of for years and years. How Kratos is just and really angry dude and little else. When they now try and add more depth and characterization people are now apparantely "upset".
People are literally complaining because it's not a carbon copy of 3 with some new gimmick. The only complaint is literally "it's different so I don't like it". How are complaints like this supposed to be taken seriously?
>>341515716
>muh story driven experience
Fuck off shill
>>341509395
from what i heard there is almost none, if any, old santa monica staff that worked on dad of war.
all my hype/hope died with that. jaffe and barlog would be rolling in their graves if they were dead.
this might be the angriest a vidya trailer has made me and I wasn't even that big a fan
>>341515860
OF PROGRESS
>>341515860
>>341516042
Fuck Naughty Dog. Biggest fucking hacks in the industry.
>>341515716
What does Sony's dick taste like?
>>341514767
at no point does it pretend to be survival horror apart from the first like 10 minutes
>>341515716
Everyone played the games to mash buttons and watch Kratos brutalize the greek pantheon in stunning environments and you have the audacity to claim you played them for the story.
You're just a fucking desperate ps4 exclusivist that's too dumb to save money for another plaform and you're getting mad at us for not accepting a wild change that could be for the worst.
Kys, literal sonyshill
>>341516005
I don't even care about the trailer, it just bothers me that people are unironically defending it like it's fresh and new.
>>341515382
It's a meme you dip
>>341515716
>playing GoW for the story
>Liking the TLoU change
>>341515860CUHRAZY
>>341503652
nah this could definitely turn out to be good.
a lot of women seem to love dad as war as well.
turns out if you're not a fat ass NEET autist with no skills, women are naturally attracted to you.
>>341515837
Eh, so do I. Who knows, I could be wrong. But there's no way of knowing until after it comes out.
Also, the worst shit I see in this trailer is how Kratos is fucking hitting the giant, and there's literally no indication he is actually hitting him. No hit effects or anything, it's like you are swinging at air. Jesus, at least the last game had decent hit effects.
They better fucking fix that shit by the time the game comes out. They might reduce the quality of everything else, as always, but that shit needs to be fixed.
>>341515543
Yes but you could run and hop around freely too
>>341515905
>When they now try and add more depth and characterization people are now apparantely "upset".
Yeah it's not like Santa Monica tried this same surrogate child angle in GoW3 and failed MISERABLY. God forbid people actually learn from experience.
>>341515716
You're the reason why shit like The Order: 1886 gets made
>>341503652
I feel bad for GoW fans
>>341503652
Why would Nintengaffers agree that new gameplay sucks when majority of you guys only plays games exclusively on a Nintendo console? Also there is no demo of the game so it's seem unfair and absurd to judge game when non of you guys played it.
>>341516329
>it's good because women and you're fat
okay
>>341515081
All I see is him complaining about the difficulty in the first game because his babby ass couldn't play on Infinite Climax without Witch Time or deal with Joys, the most fun enemy from the first one aside from Grace/Glory.
also
>he played the fucking PS3 version
no wonder he gave it a lower score, what an asshole, shit shouldn't count.
>>341515905
I just believe that gameplay should come first and if people feel betrayed about that, they know that right up front provided someone actually shows their gameplay.
Full disclosure: I haven't played anything more than the first hour of God of War 1 and the demo on the PS3 where I flew by grabbing a harpies leg or something. It was sick. I really couldn't care less.
>>341516329
Jesus, at least try, your breaking my heart.
>>341516275
Another reason to cut it the fuck out.
>>341503652
It could be ok but I'm worried about that camera perspective, melee combat is going to feel like shit if they keep the over the shoulder camera for the entire game.
>>341516480
maybe learn how to read you nu-male faggot
>>341515860
This looks really autistic anon. Also you can clearly tell the hitboxes are utter garbage.
>>341515905
All the complaints are fairly reasonable
it's no longer a god of war game adding a child you have to baby sit will have ruined any semblance of pacing and action the game had
>>341515905
How does Sony's dick taste?
For fags saying GoW is a button masher, either you haven't played them or you're on easy. It's not fucking dynasty warriors. It's like Devil May Cry. It's a hack and slash, but there's more to it then mashing square. Dodging, parries, being aware of meters, managing different unique enemy types. There's that intensity there, you feel like you're constantly on your toes.
>/v/
>the cynical, jaded shithole where everything different or popular is bad and is a cesspool of system kiddie war shit
Why am I not surprised.
https://youtu.be/KftPFPcu_K0?t=1h29m57s
>>341516485
Sure anon, sure. And yet he still brings up far more, and better points than you do.
>implying God of War ever had gameplay
>>341516675
b-b-b-but it's not muh dmc
>>341516716
to be honest its not even about system wars
it just looks like a terrible tomb raider rip off now
I mean at least the last game had a unique aesthetic
>>341516568
The child is the ACTUAL MAIN CHARACTER.
How is /v/ not actually getting this when it's exactly why they aren't calling it GoW4.?
>>341516716
>the criticising a shitty looking game is bad meme
please fuck off it genuinley looks like a pile of 'deep' shit
>>341516716
some of us genuinely liked the old games you know
>>341516275
Memes should die.
>>341516675
please look up any Truestyle footage of DMC3 or 4 or Bayonetta and fuck off.
God of War shouldn't even be considered to be in the same genre, its gameplay is that much shittier.
>>341516882
>now comparing gow to tomb raider
This place is getting dumber by the day.
>>341513551
one of the things i was originally excited for was to see a new goddamn weapon being used. in fact one of the biggest flaws (if not THE biggest or only) in ascension for me was the fact there were no other weapons, just elements for the blades.
>>341517130
why
the new god of war just looks like the new tomb raider
It's funny, even people defending it have admitted to me that it's just the same shit everyone else is doing.
>>341516716
HOLY FUCK
IS THAT GUY ON THE RIGHT THE GAMER GUNK FAGGOT?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9B60dqDAho
Nah, I loved the new God of War. But I'm not a big God of War fan to begin with. Only played 3 and was meh about it.
>>341516910
every game does the reboot with the same name as the first one thing nowadays
and if the kids is the main character they may as well just abort the game right now
>>341517014
And that means you're a casual faggot who shouldn't be on this board.
>>341515905
>I have yet to hear anything relevant when it comes to complaints about the new game.
So, the claustrophobic, over-the-shoulder camera potentially completely ruining any sense of scale in fights isn't a relevant complaint? The seemingly ass-backward shift in tone isn't a relevant complaint? The fact that it looks like it plays NOTHING like the older GoW games isn't a relevant complaint?
>>341517110
>game x is not as good as game y therefore it's bad
All day every day.
>>341517226
is that Harold from Twin Peaks?
>>341517178
Eh, they worked differently enough.
Not like 3 was much different in that regard. All the weapons were just shit on chains.
>>341517272
I enjoy a wide variety of games anon, maybe stop being so angry
/v/ just likes to hate things.
Original GoW wasn't perfect but most people agree that it was enjoyable for what it was, it's what got a lot of people into real character action games. This change however is for the better, not the worse.
>>341517360
Yes, they're irrelevant because it's a PS4 exclusive and therefore is free from all criticism.
>>341517392
more like
>Game X is so much fucking worse than Game Y that there is no point in Game X even existing
>>341517272
But by any indication the new GoW is even more casual.
