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>I really enjoy Battleborn, but it’s not doing well. Overshadowed
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>I really enjoy Battleborn, but it’s not doing well. Overshadowed and misunderstood, its popularity is off the low end of most charts. The addition of premium currency to purchase special taunts and skins is exactly not the shot in the arm the game needs.
>I have a hard enough time trying to convince people that the game is worth playing without the option to spend $1.99 to $49.99 per pack on Platinum, the in-game currency used to purchase special not-just-color-swap skins for all 26 heroes and a selection of premium taunts.
>“But Overwatch lets you purchase currency and buy skins and taunts!” I will say. “But Overwatch lets you earn the currency by playing as well. Besides, you said to stop comparing Battleborn to Overwatch in the review.” Damn, they’ve got me there.
>As the post on the Battleborn website lays out, players were warned this was coming. I imagine most of those players have wandered off to do something else by now. They were warned, though.
>Anyway, skins will cost 420 Platinum, while taunts run 230. A Platinum Pack of 230 runs $1.99, so for a skin you’ll need either two of those or the $4.99 pack of 700, priced as to make it completely stupid to just spend $1.99.
>Gearbox is currently looking into other non-game-affecting items to sell for cash, from experience boosters to bank spaces and additional loadouts.

Somebody help! Even kotaku is making fun of us. Although, I guess I shouldn't be surprised since they were always in the tank for Overwatch.
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It's optional cosmetics so who cares? I don't see you pukes complaining about being able to buy loot boxes in Overwatch. At least in Battleborn you can buy the specific item you want instead of rolling the RNG.
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>>341422089
>making fun of us

I didn't realize there were two battleborn players left
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>>341422340

There's hundreds of thousands of Battleborn players each day you ignorant crapposter.
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>>341422285
1. the items are totally locked behind the cash shop. there is no other way to get the requisite game currency but to spend money. overwatch allows players to save currency accumulated over playing the game and purchase the desired item if it hasn't unlocked along the way.

2. battleborn's prerogative needs to be enticing new players to buy and play the game. a full price title that is struggling is a hard enough sell, and introducing a cash shop isn't much of a value proposition for prospective customers
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>Gearbox failing

It makes me so happy. That scummy company needs to die.
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>>341422340
/threads
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Gearbox deserves this for giving us this shit heap, instead of a new Borderlands.
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>>341422560

>1. the items are totally locked behind the cash shop. there is no other way to get the requisite game currency but to spend money.

So what? They're skins and taunts that don't affect gameplay.

>2. battleborn's prerogative needs to be enticing new players to buy and play the game. a full price title that is struggling is a hard enough sell, and introducing a cash shop isn't much of a value proposition for prospective customers

This was planned months ago. Plus switching the art guys to fix bugs isn't going to do any good.
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>>341422520
Literally billions some might even say. Trillions? Perhaps.
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>>341422520
Hundreds was the only correct part of your post.
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>>341422089
>gearbox money making strategy
>"Let's just milk the 2000 players we have left for all they're worth, who cares about them?"
Why do Battleborn players exist? All Gearbox does is step on you.
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>>341422801
>So what? They're skins and taunts that don't affect gameplay.

the same is true for overwatch, so either way the complaint is retarded.

>This was planned months ago. Plus switching the art guys to fix bugs isn't going to do any good.

i am not arguing about the allocation of the company's staff. i am arguing that their marketing strategy needs to adapt to the reality of the situation they are in and introducing a cash shop go a game people are already not interested in buying is a tactical error.
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>>341422851
Oh, anon
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literally who thought creating Battleborn was a good idea, including making it P2P AND RELEASING IT IN THE SAME MONTH AS OVERWATCH

They literally tried to go toe-to-toe in the PC market with fucking Titan, one of the most anticipated games of all fucking time and made by a company with an extremely dedicated playerbase.
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>buy battleborn for $60
>price drop a week after launch
>get no reward for early adopting
>now you have to pay real money for skins you can't even see over the ui

has any fanbase been cucked faster than battleborn players?
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>>341422089
Gearbox mass layoffs when?
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>>341422819
Some may argue that Battleborn servers operate through multiple dimensions, as this is the only explanation to how they can fit so many players into fun and exciting matches with such reliability
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>Skins costing $5 each
Geez, most games usually give you like 6 for that. Also Battleborne is an FPS. What's the point of skins if you don't even get to see them fro a majority of gameplay
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>>341422935
meanwhile a game completely ignored by developers and publishers and no advertisement at E3
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>>341423138
arkham knight
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>/v/: give us new and unique games, we're sick and tired of brown and bloom rehashes and sequels!
>Gearbox: here's battleborn, have fun guys
>/v/: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, there are no traditionally sexualized and objectived women in the game and the gameplay isn't like CoD, let's go play Overwatch instead

You people are something else
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>>341423352
>/v/: give us new and unique games, we're sick and tired of brown and bloom rehashes and sequels!
>ok, here's SJW: The Game
>/v/: I never asked for this
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>411 players on Steam

I feel kinda bad for them
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>>341423352
/v/ has shit taste in games m8
But battleborne is trash though
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>>341423290
So that the 1 person you manage to get matched up with sees it
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>>341423290
What the fuck are you smoking
no game is giving you 6 skins for 5 dollars
See: LoL, MH2016, EVE, HotS
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>>341423352
>/v/ : give us a good game
>Gearbox : Here is a game that isn't good
>/v/ : This game is not good and I have no inclination to play it
>Handful of Battleborn fans : REEEEE WHY DON'T YOU FORCE YOUR SELF TO LIKE A VIDEO GAME WITH BAD GAMEPLAY

You're clearly baiting with the sexualization comment, but just for all five battleborn fans out there, people don't like it because it's not fun to play.
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>>341423449

There's nothing "sjw" about Battleborn
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>>341423567
There's nothing ''good'' about Battleborn
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>>341423352
>Have fun guys
>Also I hope you don't mind but we're cutting the price a week after release, hope you don't mind!
>Also we're adding microtransactions, HAVE FUN!
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>>341422089
Overwatch was Cash Shop garbage since day 1.

Battleborn wasn't garbage day 1.

At least, Battleborn tried to not include a Cuck Shop on release day.
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>>341423524
You can buy 166 shit skins on csgo for that
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>>341422089
>420
Yeah they are high alright
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>>341423617
>making their game cheaper
Those monsters!
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>>341423352
it was more like
>we need money, lets look what big successful companies are doing
>looks like blizzard is making a moba fps with cartoony graphics
>let's get our interns to make the artstyle and character designs
>lets let the janitor do the ui design
>let's let the mailman do the game design
>cash shop designed by committee
>let's push game out when OW is coming out
>oh no OW is actually a different game with better artstyle and different gameplay that all put our fps moba to shame
>oh no we're losing players, lets reduce price and put in cashshop

Battleborn is a flat out shit game by shit devs with the most inconsistent and poorly thought out artstyle since the 90's
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>>341423641
>Comparing Battleborn system to OW
>I can't read the OP

I'm so sorry for your learning disability Anon. It must make things difficult.
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Im sorry you bought Battleborn OP.
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>>341423352
How the fuck is a Moba new and exciting?
If anything they've been done to death since League of Legends made it big.
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>>341423726
>right after your loyal fanbase payed full price
Tell me, Anon, why buy the game if it could potentially be 5 bucks tomorrow?
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>>341423726
>buy new game full price to support devs
>price gets cut down drastically after you just bought it
>devs don't even aknowledge people who paid full price, give them the figurative middle finger
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>>341423567
>not a single attractive female
anon come on now
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I can't even make fun of Battleborn anymore, it's just not fair to them.

They're already dead. Even if I had a reason to hate the game, I still wouldn't, because it's going to be F2P abandonware within 8 months regardless.
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>>341422725
>no class based FPS based on Borderland heroes

Fucking retarded.
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>>341423816
>>341423845
You can refund from steam on the basis that the game dropped in price recently after you bought it

but then again
>buying Battleborn
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>>341423726
No, the original game apparently wasn't worth $50 considering the extremely quick discount. So the early adopters simply overpaid $20.
Right now it's back up to $50 and nobody is buying it, because it's too expensive for what you get.
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Battleborn is really bleeding Gearbox dry, isn't it?
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>>341423726
Cutting a price so early not only spurns early adopters but wards away potential buyers, because as >>341423816 put it, they very well could drop the price even more.
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Good, let Gearbox's empire burn.
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>blizzdrones so terminally enslaved and brainless even kotaku can't stand their shit anymore
You had it coming, retard. Now funnel that last scoop of shit and die.
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>>341423732
holy penis fuck Overwatch is nothing like a moba, are you legally retarded
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One day closer to gearbox going under. Can't wait.
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>countering low sales numbers by draining money from people already playing it
They are unironically digging their own graves.
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>>341423567
FEMINISM IS AWESOME!
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>>341422725
>Gearbox deserves this for giving us this shit heap, instead of this other shit heap
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>there are people in this thread so salty over Battleborn being shit they've resorted to the Sonygger defense

>there are people who will post twitch stream views for Overwatch as part of their argument

Sorry, it's a lot more fun to actually play Overwatch than watch others play it.

if my TV would stream twitch, I'd watch while playing.
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>>341424305
they know exactly what they're doing, Battleborn is not the first dying game to wring out money from the handful of whales left

the rationale is that some of the same people who are stupidly loyal enough to keep playing this garbage will also be stupid enough to spend more money on it
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>>341424276
Heads up, the Marvel moba had 5k and got pulled instantly.
Grim future for this one
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>Gearbox finally getting what they deserve

shame that they'll just make Borderlands 3 and start making money again
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>>341423524
Marvel vs Capcom 3 had those costumes packs 4 for 4 and two of 6 for 4
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>>341424305
Why not? It worked for anime.
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>>341422089
>Overwatch had killed battleborn before it even released

Well at least Blizzard did SOMETHING good for once.
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>>341422851
It's hundreds more than such flops as Overwatch. We all know that no one plays the game, they just watch it on Twitch. It takes minutes for me to find a match!
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>>341423323
I didn' pay for the game, they gave me ALL the others batman games for free and the game run decent now, is fucking beautifull and fun as fuck.

What now ?
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>>341424276
god damn this is just sad
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>>341424239
>contains pudge
>contains techies
>have nexus
>have 3 lanes
>nothing like moba
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>>341422089
Will Battleborn go down as the worst managed game in video game history?
>$20 price drop a week after launch
>launching close to Overwatch release
>microtransactions added to an already declining community
>gearbox
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>>341423138
killing floor 2
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I don't think I've seen a single good decision related to this game.

Do they just keep Randy Pitchford locked in a basement so he can't do something so unbelievably retarded that he puts all of Gearbox out of business and he escaped or what
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>>341422089
The amount of shilling in this thread is astronomical. I think Randy is lurking.
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>Skins cost 137 GameBux
>GameBux are sold in packages of 88 for $3.99 or 243 for $9.99
>No way to not have worthless GameBux left over

why

this is the most annoying shit
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I don't understand the hate for Gearbox here. You people act like they stole your lunch money, kicked your dog, and asked the girl you liked out to prom before you did.
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the best thing you can say about Battleborn is that at least it isn't Paladins
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>>341422285
>pukes

get off the internet grampa
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>>341424614
>contains techies
>have nexus
>have 3 lanes
What?
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>>341424594
I will never fucking understand the
>buy the sequel to get the original game
strategy. Surely you already own the original game(s) if you're playing the new one.
All though you're right, Arkham Knight works now and isn't too shabby.
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>>341424614
I'm amazed people are still biting the 'MOBA" thing still, good job
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>>341424434
MAKE THEM STOP
I have a friend who keeps trying to persuade me into playing this shit with him.
THAT FRANCHISE IS GARBAGE
HOW PEOPLE SURVIVE THIS BORING SHITFEST
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>>341422089
Milking their already dead playerbase. I hope other companies learn from these guys and compile a "what not to do list"
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>>341424753
Because they make you pay more, dunce faggot
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Maybe this is a sign of making the game free to play.
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>>341423643
you can buy 166 shitskins from the african slave trade
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>>341424789
It's just fucking disappointing to see a company who made actually decent games like OpFor and partially BL1 reduced to this

BL2 was just fucking trash.Maybe they ended up fixing it but actual good gun drops were so unbelievably rare I thought I was in Jim Crow law-era America with the whites only I was getting from those drops
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If it makes you feel better I'm probably never going to play any of these shitty MOBA games.
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>>341422819
If there are infinite timelines, then there are infinite Battleborn players
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>>341424906
Worry not, they have nobody to steal from this time, surely it will fail just like TPS did
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>>341423319
>meanwhile a game completely ignored by developers and publishers and no advertisement at E3

you could of said
>meanwhile in a good game
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>>341424370
Rekt
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>>341425003
Not if I don't fucking buy it.

>That skin looks nice
>$1.99, cool
>Purchase for $1.99
>ENJOY YOUR VIDYAN GAEM (SKIN)

>That skin looks nice
>140 gamebux, how much is that?
>220 gamebux is $5, so it's about $2.30?
>What else would I buy with the leftover gamebux?
>Could get a shitty player icon I guess
>Don't really care
>Back to the vidya
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>Make full price MOBA
>still have over half the cast locked from the start

It's like Gearbox did everything wrong that they could to sabotage their own game.
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>>341424906
Don't know, I also hate Borderlands though.
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So you people telling me if you enjoy a game and the company that provides the game is trying to generate more revenue by adding a cash shop. You will have to leave? Even though those items have zero impact on the game and serve to create more free content?

Sounds a little knee jerk to me.
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Just visited /r/Battleborn

Just a bunch of sad fucks complaining about the low playerbase. Truly pathetic.
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>>341425343
You're in the minority, it's been proven time after time
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>>341425448
>visiting leddit
Kill Yourself, you stupid fucking piece of shit.
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how embarassing
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> $60 for base game
> $20 for season pass
> now cash shop where you need to spend $80 to buy all the first slate of items

Jesus
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Holy fuck whats wrong with me. I keep visiting the Battleborn reddit and im almost always at full 100% boner. I kinda want to drop my pants and jerk off to their misery. Posts like its not fair someone do something make me so fucking hard. Battleborn players remind me of Bernie supporters i just cant get enough of their anguish
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>>341422089
Good luck will come to you, but only if you post
NO MORE GEARBUCKS FOR THESE KEKS
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>>341426280
NO MORE GEARBUCKS FOR THESE KEKS
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>>341424753
It's meant to be an incentive to buy more, until you can get enough skins or w/e to hit 0.

League did it first, but then again League skins are probably better.
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>>341425760
Where else was he going to poke fun at the Battleborn 'community'?
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>>341425448
>Complaining on reddit
kek
Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?
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>>341424794
Well if the development team quit fucking around with the core system and following everything the flip-flopping manager says they could come up with something decent. That game is an unplayable mess.
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>>341425959
goddamn

lol
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>post yfw even though battleborn flopped, Gearbox is still legally obligated to finish its 4 other dlc packs with new characters, map, and gear
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>>341426932
Must be a traumatic experience for cucks to suffer through binding commitment.
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>>341425448

I love when a subreddit, which are typically circlejerks supporting whatever the subreddit is for, start to turn against it and openly revolt.
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>2016

>buying a game that anthony burch was a writer for, like every past shitty gearbox game

>not expecting to get cucked
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>>341426932
>>341427034
So this is the silver lining to season pass
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>>341426932
They were suppose to shoot themselves in the foot only once to learn, not use up the whole damn clip. This is going to be a harsh lesson for Gearbox.
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>>341424794
>comparing a complete and released buy to play game to a free game in beta development
battleborn now has to try and compete with unreleased, incomplete games. sad.

>>341426857
ok, but isn't that what testing is for?
they let people play, get feedback, and make appropriate changes.
i can excuse this sort of indecisive shit on a beta. although if it stays like this on release, it's another thing completely.
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>>341425094
False, those steam charts are accounting for our multiverse
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>>341427147
burch left gbx over a year ago. coincidentally, the new guy who wrote battleborn is already gone.

in other news: geometry dash has surpassed battleborn.
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>>341425959
It's even sadder when you compare it to Borderlands:TPS
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>>341424370
The other shit would have had some interest for me, at least for a play-through with friends.
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>>341427985
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>>341422520
see
>>341422935
>>341424276
>>341425959
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>>341427985
>battleborn getting on the disappointment highway
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>>341424434
Borderlands was a fun concept about 8 years ago. Can't really see it doing well now, especially with the current competition (destiny, the division).
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>>341428949
those games are abandoned, Anon.

they failed BECAUSE they weren't enough like Borderlands (more RPG elements, cooler guns, ect)
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>sensible move would be to go F2P and microtransactions
>nope our game IS SO GOOD we can have microtransactions and full price

Fuck Gearbox and their arrogant as fuck actions.
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Should I try out Paladins? I'm seeing some cute girls here.
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>>341422968

Why actually autistic cousin loves it he told me as players were warping around in a single player all always online bot match on his crappy satellite connection.
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>>341423319

Is it worth it senpai? Saw my brother playing it on his xbone and thought it looked neat.
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>>341422089
I feel kinda bad for Battleborn.

But on the other hand, it is Gearbox, and I really don't like those guys.
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>>341422089
Excellent, crash and burn even harder Gearbox.
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>>341429219
Is there a good amount of r34 of them? if not it's not worth it
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Queercox deserves all this and more.
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>>341426932
They could always just half-ass it, like they did with the Pre-sequel one, which had one actual additional scenario, two alternative characters and an arena map.
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>>341429702
>Cucks defending cuckgames

Does this surprise anyone?
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It's karma after what they did to Sega. Sega's upcoming arcade port of Miku will sell more than Stillborn.
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>>341429702
>I *love* the game
What an cuckold of the highest calibur
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>>341429702
Oh wow, SJW defending a SJW game.
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>>341422089
>Here is a game that people didn't want to buy even after it's price has been cut by 40%. And here's even more options to spend money on that game.

just...
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>>341429702

Businessfag here. I'd legitimately love to watch a documentary on Battleborn with interviews with people who worked on it. I just want to understand the decision making process behind it. It seems like at every crossroads they reached, they decided to take the wrong turn again, and again, and again.
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>>341429101
Destiny is doing pretty well now since the new expansions.
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What a waste of fucking money. They thought this FPS+League MOBA shit would sell.
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>>341430162
Thats only 1 and a half elves
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>>341423352
Battleborn is actually worse looking than any brown and bloom game though
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>>341430242
They were completely in love with their own product and didn't see any fault with it. Absolutely no critical thinking allowed. During the beta a lot of people brought a lot of valid points up. None of them were taken into consideration by the studio. It is just a very typical Gearbox behaviour.
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>>341426932
They scammed people out of content with Pre-Sequel Memelands so they will probably pull that shit here again
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>>341423352
Please never under any circumstances think that I want Gearbox to make a new game.
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They deserve everything that's coming to them after they killed off the Duke Nukem franchise permanently, Almost killing off the Alien franchise and releasing two absolutely godawful, terrible, meme-filled sequels to Borderlands.

They are a shitty company and should not be allowed to make games anymore.
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>>341430617
They got no place to steal money from anymore. They blew everything on this game.
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>>341423091
>one of the most anticipated games of all fucking time
Come the fuck on Blizzdrone.
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>>341430785
>BADASS

I am no native English speaker, but the phrase seems cringy to me.
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>>341430785
>Using BADASS to try and sell your game

Haah waaaw
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>>341430617
How? I don't haven't followed gearbox's shit since Borderlands 2 somehow turned out to be an even more boring grindfest than BL1.
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>>341430930

These days there aren't many games that have a truly intense level of anticipation at all. It's easy to misunderstand just how anticipated other games have been, I suppose.

Thinking overwatch was anywhere near as anticipated as super mario 3 though. I think that'd make just about anybody laugh.
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>>341430981
After playing a couple of hours of BL2 co-op this shit is spot on. Such cringeworthy dialogue.
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>>341423352

And? Why can't there be at least ONE (1) sexualized character like overwatch has? (Widowmkaker)

I literally bought overwatch because I was attracted to widowmaker's ass.
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>>341431648
Because that would be catering to a WHITE MALE.
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Someone post that photo of that guy that got given a whole box of BB cards because no one gave a fuck.
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>>341431732
well, I guess thats why no one bought it

is this the fucking epitome of SJW marketing? as in, SJW's don't buy games?
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>>341431831
>copy moba shit
>don't copy the important lessons from league of legends

And by that I mean is to not give a fuck about SJWs because sex sells.
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>>341430785

>BADASS BADASS BADASS YOU ARE ALL BADASSES XD

They have been doing this shit since Borderlands and its pure cringe. They recycled the marketing and the humor.
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>>341432027
Hasn't there already been proof that SWJ's don't buy video games? There is that one game made by a self identifying SWJ and it flopped so hard she quit video games the week after.
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>>341432450

Oh shit what game?
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>Gearbox has run out of Good Dev Points and are even getting shit on by their games journalism buttbuddies now
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>The Battleborn general is so sad they keep making the threads after they died at 100-200 posts refusing to give up

Fucking kek
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>>341432554
Sunset
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>>341432687
>Battleborn has a general

Do I dare and go there?
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>>341432946
it got raided a few times when Overwatch General posters faked a new thread by linking to Battleborn General
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>>341432946

Leave our general alone. I'm sick of you Overwatch babies crapping in it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kC6BWoQxcw
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>>341432687
Better than the Sims general.
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>>341432931
I'm glad those fuckers failed. They made several "art games" and by "art games" I mean "movies that only play while you press w".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZly6bW3UMk
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>>341424906
>not playing a game you don't like with a friend to make them happy
You're a bad friend anon, I play shit games with my friend all the time, he has a blast
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Battleborn needs to go F2P. Otherwise Gearbox is going bankrupt in a year. They're still working with the assumption that this is successful. Is it on consoles? Are there numbers for that?
They're known for fucking over everyone they work with so it's likely no investor will touch them.
I'm willing to bet if Randy stepped down, you would see an immediate increase in quality.
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>>341430981
I can only hear that in Claptrap's voice god it is so grating
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>>341433727
>Battleborn needs to go F2P.
No.
>Otherwise Gearbox is going bankrupt in a year
YES
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>>341426173
>S4P is full of suicide victims

I go on there anytime I need to feel better. Meanwhile

>It's hard to tell /r/all from /r/the_donald sometimes

Truly the dankest timeline.
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>>341424841

>buy the sequel get the original

This shit is supposed to bring in new players. The ones who really liked the first game would buy the second anyway, but giving out the first game entices the people who would want to get into it, but are afraid to miss out on story or whatever if they have not played the previous installment.
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free to play when? I actually think it looks decent but I wouldn't dare spend $40 or whatever it costs now.
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>>341430242

The fate of that game is very close to games like Evolve and Demigod. Similar problems at launch, similar problems with game designs that made it less accessible for the casuals, yet not very enticing for more veterans of the genre.
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>>341433727

If it went F2P I still wouldnt play it. The characters are unappealing and moba is a cancer genre. Overwatch is more fun and Mei is in it.
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IT'S NOT FAIR BATTLEBROS
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Why is that fucking mushroom on all the promo art? Blizzard stuck gold with Tracer but none of the BB characters I have seen are remotly nice or inviting to look at.
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>>341424794

If Overwatch didn't exist i'd be possibly down for playing this more, despite the bland characters and dull levels.
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>>341433794
If they want to survive, they need F2P. My problem with Gearbox is mostly due to incompetence. A new leader could actually give their decent IP's like Borderlands
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>>341422089
>But Overwatch lets you purchase currency and buy skins and taunts!
This is not correct. Every level you get you earn a lootbox. Lookboxes hold 4 randomized items. Skins, sprays, taunts, icons, animations, and currency. They aren't tradable. All duplicates are turned into currency. Any of the above mentioned loot can be purchased with currency. So the closer you come to finishing your entire collection the more money you get from duplicates and can purchase the items you want. You can buy loot boxes with real currency but you can't buy currency in game.
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>>341433975
it's pretty fair.
they have a shitty business model.
they have shitty writing.
they have a shitty reputation.
and they dont want to change because "haters".
it's probably a fun game. like, BL2 and pre-sequel are good if you ignore the DLC and play with all dialogue muted.

and why in gods name did they try to clash head-to-head with blizzard?
blizzard, despite their flaws. are known for having produced some of the most sucessful online multiplayer games. gearbox is big, but they're not blizzard big.
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>>341434158
Sorry, thought I wrote the whole thing.
Their decent IP's could actually be great and not just decent time wasters.
Battleborn is still a fucking mess but anyone competent could save it and make it good.
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>>341434157

Probably not, people would just go back to SMITE. One of the problems with Battleborn is the PvP itself is surprisingly slow-paced, guns and skills feel like peashooters. Even SMITE has teamfights which end in a matter of seconds. When a 3rd person MOBA feels more fast-paced and intense than a FPS shooter-MOBA, then the latter game has some serious design problems to it.
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>>341434452
This reminds me of Inafune. But with the game actually coming out. Though Gearbox did the same thing by getting ahead of themselves with shit like a collectors edition, figures and trading cards. All for a 500 player base.
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>>341433963
If their statement that they spent most of their available budget on it, F2P would probably keep them afloat enough to finish Borderlands 3. Unless it was unplayable, they would survie.
I agree with what you said, though. It's like every decision they could have made was wrong.
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>>341427894
Okay Dwight
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>>341430423
>release a new franchise
>add shitloads of gimmicky merchandise to push new franchise at day 1
OH GEE I WONDER WHAT COULD GO WRONG
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>>341430981
I'm sure that was taken for a game.
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>>341434557
It's gearbox
Everything they make just leads to bullet sponges
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>Reused Borderlands humor

No thanks. I did not like it the first 3 times and I wont like it now. The sarcasm and irony is over done to the point is extremely annoying and cringey.

Also the art style looks like shit.
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>highest budget game of the company
>$20-25 price drop 2 weeks after launch
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632 people can't be wrong!
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what kind of dicksucked bandwagon holy video game alumni worked on battleborn? other shit games are allowed to be forgotten, apparently someone is so well liked at Battleborn they can get it in the press every single day no matter how shit it is and have everyone wishing them well. this isn't babby's first school project, and we're not the parents, let this shit die already.
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Is there some particular reason Overwatch fags are trolling that Battleborn General? I don't know about the drama but it seems odd.
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>mfw this entire trainwreck
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Gearbox knows the ship is sinking and is just trying to milk enough money from whatever remaining playerbase they've still got to make up for development costs, there's no other reason why they'd add microtransactions at this point.
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>>341424906
We desperately need co-op games.
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>>341433147
>implying the general would be a thing if it weren't for Overwatch shitposting
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>>341422089
this is a sort of game i would enjoy playing but
>gearbox
>most of the characters look like shit
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>>341436928
The sad part is that they are trying to suck dry the only people that supported them. Why people let themselves fall for such obvious scams amd support them after losing their money is a mystery to me.
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>>341436264
Gearbox decided to start a competition. The Overwatch fans aren't merciful, apparently.
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>>341437709
Mommy will only buy one game per year and they chose wrong. They have to tell themselves they are right and the rest of the world are wrong. It's like consoles.
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>>341423352
>>/v/: give us new and unique games, we're sick and tired of brown and bloom rehashes and sequels!

Yeah and we got Overwatch and we're extremely happy with it.
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>>341422089
It's a shame that this didn't have a more robust PvE campaign, as I really like the setting and background and think that there was a lot of potential there. But I think MOBAs are inherently unfun and Gearbox's patented humour is very hit and miss. (The robot that thought he was a spider king and the different lines that counted down to the start of a mp match gave me hearty chuckles during the beta)
I wish that a different company made this game. Maybe they wouldn't have bungled it.
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What would happen if they go F2P within the next month?
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>>341439632
They'd better provide some sweet bonuses to people who shelled out 70+ fukbux for it or they'd have a massive pr disaster on their hands. But I think you'd see a brief spike in players, then it'd decline to a similar plateau. The game just doesn't have much going for it to begin with.
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>>341424789
People are still pretty mad about Colonial Marines, and Duke Nukem.
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>>341429363
holy fuck learn to type
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>>341432197
it's pretty obvious that gearbox consists of 30 something year old neckbeards that hilariously want to be "badass"
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>>341439632

The shitstorm. I can only imagine it lol.
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When you butt heads, someone's skull is going to get cracked.

They should've rushed it, or held off. People are already getting sick of Overwatch so it's bad if they're also sick of BB.
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>>341422089
It's dead jim
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>>341422801
they are LITERALLY locking content behind a paywall
you are here defending that
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>>341422801

A cash shop in a full priced game is retarded and doomed to fail. You either need to have an established fanbase or an established name for yourself.

Gearbox has neither. Most people don't even know they are behind Borderlands. Companies like blizz might get away with it, but even they know how to play their cards and are pretty caretul with it.

Gearbox fucked up hard.
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People should play a better co-op shooter thing.
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>>341422089
Just admit that both games are shit for doing it. It just being aesthetic still doesn't excuse microtransactions in pay to play games. That shit is content that's a part of gameplay progression and is a mechanic in both games, and it's shit. Its part of the game and therefore deserves to be rated as part of the game. You can't defend one game while chastising the other.
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Wait I knew they were going cash shop but they aren't going F2P with it?

They seriously expect people to pay $60 for this fucking game then hope they'll spend even more on a cash shop to save their profit margins?
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>>341440225
I would've gone F2P and completely undercut Overwatch, attracting the audience who wanted to be a part of that but couldn't afford it. Then just clean up on the cosmetics and play the long game.

That way the priority would be on getting the userbase first, THEN milking them for all they're worth.
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>>341436038
should have kept that money for borderlands 3, they could have made their second decent game
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>>341440794

Overwatch DOES allow you to unlock it by playing the game. Spending money is just to speed up the progress and only retards do it.
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>>341430785
>BADASS
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>>341423769
>Horribly slow paced and highly randomized loot drops that are filled with meaningless shit just to make the odds horrible low of getting what the player wants... ie a horrible progression system.
>Then asks to stump up cash in microtransactions that don't even give the items you want (not that that would fix the problem either) but instead gives the player extra CHANCES to get what they want

Yeah, anon. Overwatch is so much fucking better... Both games are cancer.
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>>341440850

>couldn't afford

You mean refused to pay.

Nobody in the world who owns a computer "can't afford" a $20 game
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>>341440813
>Wait I knew they were going cash shop but they aren't going F2P with it?
> it worked for Blizzard it muat work for us too
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>>341424472
By releasing the same cancer but with Blizzard's name tagged on it so fanboys would love it? Yeah, good solution.
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>>341441109

If you play enough, youll get cash every lootbox since all items are duplicates. This will result in 50+ currency per lootbox (or the skin you want) and that means 20 lootboxes (or a 100 games) for a legendary skin.
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>>341436928
Pretty much this.
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>>341441220
Yeah. A better phrase would've been 'people reluctant to pay full price for a primarily multiplayer game of a new and unsure property'
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>>341431120
>BL1 season pass: 3 big DLCs with new areas and 1 shitty arena
>BL2 season pass: 4 big DLCs with new areas
>BL2.5 season pass: 1 big DLC with new areas, 2 characters and some shitty arena
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>>341441452

>unsure
Not like there was a beta or hundreds of twitch streams
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>>341429702
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>>341440754
>You either need to have an established fanbase or an established name for yourself.
Or good waifus. The waifu crowd isn't shy about emptying their wallets regardless.
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>>341434146
>PR men: hey guys, what should we have on our cover
>PR men: well, they say 'sex sells'
>Overwatch: we'll put a hot piece of ass!
>Battleborn: we'll put a penis-shaped mushroom!
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>>341441220
You're right, refusing to pay is more in line with not wanting to buy a game. Not wanting to buy a computer is more about affording it or not and my vRAM is 256mb.
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>>341441018
And that doesn't justify a horribly shit progression system for skins that are basically just color pallete swaps. Its a shit system.

Unlocks should come more reasonably and without all this lootbox garbage and grinding for coins for fucking ever. The gameplay is solid so people are going to play no matter what anyways... There was no reason to implement unlocks this way. Fucking Lego games have better unlock progression systems in place... FUCKING LEGO.
>tfw Lego games btfo progression system of OW and BB.
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>>341422089
Did Gearbox go all in with Battleborn? I'm a bit scared because I actually like the Borderlands games and they clearly planned something ambitious for BL3 but that won't happen if they're ruined
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>>341442026
>sperging about skins when you won't see them 90% of the time
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>>341422089
My friends all bought Battleborn and you know what they're playing instead?

UNCHARTED MULTIPLAYER.

That's how good Battleborn is.
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Is Battleborn the biggest blunder of 2016 so far?
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>>341441227
but the difference is that in overwatch (if that is what you mean) then you can earn everything by playing. In this mess you have to shell out bucks if you want anything.
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>>341442359
>UNCHARTED MULTIPLAYER.
You wish Sonygger. Everybody's playing Overwatch.
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>>341442615

>grinding for hours to level up so you can spin the random number generator is better

Blizzshills are delusional
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I tried to like the game during the open beta but it just isn't fun. It's such a huge cluster fuck but there's no real satisfaction to shooting a bunch of shitty robots or even other players.

Shit, even HotS which is a literal shitfest and it's a lot more satisfying than Battleborn.
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>>341422089
OP you must be retarded, microstransactions means theyre going F2P very soon
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>>341443093
Are you implying that it's better to not have the option to earn cosmetics by playing?
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>>341443093
It's the same way TF2 and Dota 2 cosmetics work except you don't need to buy a key to open the boxes. People rave about the way Valve does microtransactions saying it's the best way to do them.
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>>341443093
>paying real money to get skins/taunts is better than just getting them randomly

If you really want to you can spend some money on overwatch too.
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>Pay $60 +$30 Season Pass
>still lock content behind a paywall
BRAVO GEARBOX
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