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So apparently Final Fantasy XV is garbage. https://www.twit
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So apparently Final Fantasy XV is garbage.

https://www.twitch dot tv/easyallies/v/72504026

03:59:30
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I just saw that
Hubert fucking crying, holy shit
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It's just some talk about the VR shit?
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Dead on arrival
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No surprise.
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>>341410078

04:09:20

They talk about the 2 chapters being garbage..
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Seems thats the fate of every game that got stuck in development hell and finally they come out


I was never interested because of the main characters, I dont want to play as a faggy boy band
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>>341410115

>this autist was right the whole time
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Lol it got trashed. Fuck that shit, had to watch him talk about to Yakuza 0 to get hyped back up.
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These guys are the most based motherfuckers ever.
Feels like Im watching an episode of seinfield or something
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>This open world game with fags is shit
>But this one with a shirtless guy is fucking awesome

The Nintendogaaf is real
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>>341411473
Wait, what? There was Yakuza 0 talk?
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>>341410309

feeling insecure about your orientation huh?
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>>341408997

thank god I'll be too busy playing TLG to give a shit
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>>341410309
>faggy
You have to be 18 years or older to post here, faggot
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>>341411709
Nah I love sucking cocks, from masculine guys not from emo faggots
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>>341411667
Yes and it was funny as fuck.
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>>341411857
Gotta link/time for me senpai?
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>>341411943
2:46:30
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>>341411792
>hoping to save face

COCKSUCKER~~~~
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Did people actually think FFXV would be good?

It's the textbook example of a project too big for its own good. They keep pumping money into it like it will actually fix shit.

Bloated projects is very much a real thing.
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>>341411792

so you're ugly is what you're saying
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>Nah mora
It took me a while to figure out they were saying Nomura.
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>>341412223
This. I knew this shit would be a massive disappointment after that platinum demo. Open world was a mistake
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I don't have access to twitch atm, can anyone give me a short/quick rundown on how the game looks?
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>>341410309
I don't mind the party's look personally, but I've always been confused about what kind of an audience they're trying to chase here. The series is well known for its varied and colorful casts and they've clearly put an enormous amount of money and time into this game, so why did they decide to go with five normal guys wearing all black everything?
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>>341408997
Japs can't into modern games.
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>>341413176
The all male party was meant to create a tight masculine bond (not in the gay way, at least ostensibly). However this was undone by Nomura's need to make everything gay as fuck.
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>>341411667
>>341411857
It was one of the greatest stories ever told.
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http://venturebeat.com/2016/06/14/final-fantasy-xvs-memorable-first-chapter-hints-at-a-wondrous-world/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=tumblr

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/14/e3-2016-final-fantasy-xv-the-biggest-name-in-rpgs-is-making-a-comeback

https://www.destructoid.com/final-fantasy-xv-has-won-me-over-367553.phtml

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/06/ars-spends-two-hours-driving-and-battling-through-final-fantasy-xv/

These sources think otherwise.
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>>341412648
It suffers from terrible performance, the combat doesn't feel as polished as the second version of Duscae, the world feels empty and lifeless and the plot feels like it's missing crucial pieces, i.e. "And then this just happens... for some reason"
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>>341413347
You can't tell me Prompto didn't go /fit/fag because he wanted to fuck Noctis.
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>>341413487
Well is up to you who to believe but you cant get more genuine than EZA
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>>341413609
Never heard of them before you started shilling this shitty channel here.
Fuck off shill.
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>>341413660
Just saying man.
If you are ignorant is also not my fault.
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>>341413347
I'm alright with them being all male, but some more distinctive visual characteristics wouldn't hurt.
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>>341413724
Fuck off shill
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The removed CG movies from the game because they are coming up with a movie and an anime

Holy fucking shit
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>>341413810
Or, you know, when they give people a demo of the first hour or two they want them playing from the start instead of watching the 20 minute opening.
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>Weebshit game is garbage

Gee OP this is such news to me.
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>>341413609

yeah

but again this is just another rushed demo

they said there's a chapter zero thankfully "

i'll play it it makes my own judgements but damn if my hype hasn't plummeted

could be a good thing actually

>>341413660

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1vSYIHlMp8
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>>341414005
This game is targeting mouthbreathers like you who prefer God of War, believe it or not.
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>>341408997
No shit, it's Final Fantasy.
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>>341414015
Gotta love how the girl is like "the fuck are these nerds excited about"
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>>341408997
They didn't even talk about anything that they haven't shown in trailers and in demo videos. I call bullshit. These guys didn't even play it.
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>>341413545

Ok, thanks. I'll be cancelling my pre-order and I'll just wait to see how it turns out.
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>>341414469
You should never preorder any game
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>>341413487

>paid journos


no thanks

I'd rather take the allies word for it since they're not hired by any big companies anymore
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>>341414519

Agreed. I need to be better about that.
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>>341413545
MGS V part deux, this time people will defend FFXV with their lives.
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>>341413810

That was just speculation and it was already confirmed that demo they played wasn't the very beginning of the game
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>>341414469

YOU SHOULD NEVER PRE-ORDER GAMES

the fuck is the point the copies are literally infinite anyway

anyway they said it's just the demo itself and it could've been rushed for E3 - it's not 100% indicative of the final game
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>>341414725
At least MGSV was lots of fun until chapter 2, and felt technically and mechanically impressive even if the visuals weren't cutting edge
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>>341413810
You're just as dumb as those guys in the twitch video was. Hope they enjoyed the +1 view. They did some good shilling.
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>>341408997
>google who the fuck this is
>13k twitter follwers
>they have a patreon
Why should I care about their opinion?
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>>341414930
The main comparison for me will be the empty open world with repetitive side content.

MGS V needed to be trimmed down in scope. Should've been just Afghanistan, with more big bases and a maybe a city with civilians and vendors. Less side ops, while making side ops more interesting in general.

MGS V will be the best open world stealth game for the foreseeable future. The AI, difficulty/assist options, weapon and gadget freedom, movement, it was the best game possible mechanically in a really unflattering package.
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>>341415234
It's just some dude shilling his shitty twitch channel.
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>>341415234
>>341415325

stop samefagging
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>>341415234
>Why should I care about their opinion?

Because they're a bunch of guys who love vidya, not paid journalists paid to make AAA game look good.
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This is not a surprise. From the amount of salvaging they did from Final Fantasy Versus XIII's corpse and cutting content and repurposing to XV, I am actually surprised they are even racing to the end of development. I just believe that with what is said here, which may or may not be credible, and from what we've seen, this game after 3 years needs like at 1 year at least to iron out its problems. It's releasing in 3 months though assuming no delays so either they somehow magically fix all these issues or that they delay it to do the following or they suffer criticism from random stuff they haven't polished.
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>>341413609

EZA isn't dissing on FFXV, just the VR thing which honestly I wasn't expecting to be good either when I say the trailer.
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>>341408997
>Lay the steamiest shit on FFXV imaginable
>Oh yeah and KH2.8 was awesome
ahahahahahahaha
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>>341415991

doesn't surprise me

that combat would've been leagues better
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>>341415426
Fuck off and stop shilling your twitch channel and begging for patreon donations
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>>341415991
Kingdom Hearts has generally had good, fluid gameplay. I haven't seen anything of 2.8 but I'm pretty sure it will be the same. Just look at any KH3 footage, it looks much more fun than XV.
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>>341413609
>>341414546

>B-but they're made to like it
>these literally who's are more reputable than 4 different sources

Fuck you
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>>341416456
They're reputable precisely because they are literally whos.

Expecting quality coverage from mainstream journo sites is like expecting journalism and not propaganda from CNN.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDHg-OsoSyU

The gameplay here looks tight and dope.

At this point it's hard to say how it will turn out in the end, so the only option is just waiting.
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>>341417363
You dont see the enemy HP or how much damage you are doing?
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these guys are pretty fucking dumb though let's be fair.

they ask all these retarded questions and don't really identify with the scale of the game and the demo constraints.

THAT SAID it's the fault of SE for demoing the game this way.
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>>341416539

The problem goes both ways on reputation as literal nobodies as a chicken and egg problem. Why should I trust them about the fact that this "judges' event" where they got to play the first 2 chapters of the game is real?

For understandable reasons, they can't really provide direct evidence of the event having ever happened but as literal whos, why should Square Enix invite them to this when there are a ton more prominent video game news sources that could be invited instead?

Granted, I still think the whole thing is pretty credible because their reputation at the point of where it is at is not something a group of upcoming journalists would piss away on a false rumor they started about an AAA title from Japan, otherwise, they would alienate the industry and never get invited again to anything major.
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>>341417547
You can disable UI
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>>341408997
I could have told you that a year ago anon when we found out that all there is to the combat system is holding the circle button and watching the game play itself for you.

It's like every Final Fantasy to come out for ages now, they're really pretty, but there isn't much there besides that.
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How could anyone expect this game to be good?
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i bet it'll still sell like hotcakes in japan because they have really shit taste
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>>341417618

These guys are not literal whos. They're the old Gametrailers gang.
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Who's to blame for this /v/? Square and Enix had solid rpg's till they merged. What the fuck went wrong?
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>>341418180
dragon quest is still in a good shape though
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cbf watching all that, give us a rundown
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>>341417618

it will always be easier to accuse positive reviews of being shilled than negative ones. say a positive thing and it doesn't matter who you are, it could be sycophantic. it's unlikely to be in your interest to say a negative thing unless that is part of your appeal to the consumer.
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>>341417934
so literal who's
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>>341418180
You should wait to actually try the game before you form an opinion, don't let /v/'s shitposting influence you.
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>>341418272
Squenix doesn't develop any DQ games, that's why.
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>>341418552
yeah, i guess so

square enix is good as a publisher but as a game dev they're really sucking ass
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>>341417926
FF is now far more unpopular in Japan. That's why they are dumbing down the combat, to appeal to americans.

If it turns out to be a success, it'll be because of americans.
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>>341408997
I'll just wait 1 or 2 months after release and get it in the bargain bin.
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>>341418342

-prompto bit was stupid but the best bit was perving on cidney in the car
-the demo in MS' segment was fudged, it's actually really simple to the point of being boring
-the demo on the floor was two chapters and had a cold open, no cutscene, for some retarded reason the guys on stream are worried by this
-the world is apparently large and lifeless
-the battles had really bad frame rate problems
-most of the interesting action happened off screen
-the combat feels way worse than duscae 2.0

that's most of what i took from it
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>>341418664

But the japanese are the biggest casuals of all.
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>>341418613
They've been part of the development for 11 though, hopefully they don't fuck that up too.
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>>341418664
everyone knows how well that worked with mystic quest

thanks, square
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>>341418774
But they are no longer the biggest FF fanboys.

Meanwhile, americans believe playing any FF gives them nerd cred.
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>>341408997

I'll wait until PC release
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even if the game is shit, all square have to do is include an FF7 remake demo and itll fly off shelves.
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>>341418664
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>>341419068
Damn I didnt know japs were that casual. Its the same as the nioh survey
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>>341419497
post it
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>>341419068
See? Dumbed down combat and americans love it.
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>>341419497
At least they're right about the characters.

>tfw you realize devs are casualizing games all because of fucken Japs

2 nukes weren't enough.
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>>341419593
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-05-19-nioh-survey-results-show-its-alpha-favoured-by-westerners
Tons of japs found it unfairly difficult
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>>341419703

NA is the region with the biggest portion of players that didn't like the combat, learn to read graphs you fucking donut
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>>341419876
this has been going on since the PS1 days at least

it's a known fact that capcom made RE1 much harder for westerners, and it's STILL easy
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>>341419775
>tfw you realize devs are casualizing games all because of fucken americans

It's sad but true.
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>>341419068
>Japan prefer turn based
Shocking
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>>341419948
>NA is the region with the biggest portion of players that didn't like the combat

Then they liked the game just because of the band boy faggots?

Man, americans sure are retarded.

Game is a guaranteed success.
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>>341419703
>>341419986
>>341420113
are you literally mentally ill
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>>341408997
To the surprise of nobody with more than 2 brain cells.
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Will the FF7 remake be dumbed down for americans too?
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>"the 10 minutes I spent with Kingdom Hearts 0.2 was more impressive to me than the entire 2 hours I spent with Final Fantasy 15"
>KH 0.2 is a GZ style prologue chapter that's 6 months from release
>The full game for FFXV is coming out in 3 months
>Based Yasue
>Based Nomura
>Based UE4
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>>341420113
Dude 20 percent of japs didnt know what to fucking do. Theyre dumbing it down for them.
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>>341408997
who are these people
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>>341415991
I hate Kingdom Hearts, but even I'll admit that shit series play way better than anything FF15 has shown.
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>>341420293
People that know their shit
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>>341420272
Bitch, again; FF only sells well outside Japan.

Square doesn't care about Japan anymore.
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>>341408997

>the way his excitement drains away from Huber
>he is livid as Ben lays out the smack
>you can hear his heart breaking

Somebody take all sharp objects away from him when it turns out Shenmue 3 is another garbage.
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At the very least, it will be better than KH3.
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>yfw FF15 is worse than FF13
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16 will be a return of form Im sure
By now they must know people are clamoring for a return of the series to its roots
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>>341420529
isn't that the niche the chibi spinoff is trying to fill
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>>341420529
> By now they must know people are clamoring for a return of the series to its roots

That's why they are ruining FF7 right? Face it. Square Enix are retarded and don't know what they are doing, they just are fortunate that expensive marketing works.
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>>341420521
No it fucking won't and in your hard heart you know it too.
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>>341420529
>16 will be a return of form Im sure
make it like FF12 improved battle system.
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>>341420612
7 sells on its own you can ruin it all you want
But if the series wants to continue they cant keep selling this crap
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>>341418664
>ARPG combat is more dumb than turn based
Really nigger?
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>>341420602
No, Square Enix actually believe World of FF is for introducing new people to the FF series and FF15 is for the old fans.
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>>341420681
He's right. Though FF is dumb whether it is turnbased or action because the series is for casuals
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>>341408997
It took you until now to figure this out?

I saw it was garbage the moment I saw the cast. A bunch of emo homos on a roadtrip.

Gameplay is also some wannabe action-y DMC lite shit.

No thanks. As visually impressive as the game might be, it's garbage. The way Noctis perma-teleports around while hovering mid-air makes me puke.
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>>341420681

It is, it's holding one of two buttons. Manually dodging has ZERO invincibility frames, while the holding dodge button is completely iframes.
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damn square are dumb
if they want to succeed they should just ignore everything they made after X
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>>341420685
that's funny because WFF seems more faithful to the old games than FFXV ever wll be
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>>341420753
>>341420781
Found the nostalgiacuck apologists.

Having unlimited time to perform actions is more dumb than real time action no matter how you spin it. Deal with it nerds.
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>>341420857
X-2 has the best combat in the series. Dressphere is amazing.

And I was fine with the pop star charlies angels thing. It was light hearted and fun. The actual plot about saving the world was the boring part.
>>341420906
>Chess is dumb
Run along kid.
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>>341417618
m8 Brandon's an ex-judge
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>>341421031
I agree, X-2 was the peak of FF gameplay.

Too bad all else about it sucked dick.
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>>341421031
>I was fine with the pop star charlies angels thing. It was light hearted and fun

nah, it was a terrible waifu pandering game
worst thing to happen to JRPGs along with dating sims
I can still remember part of my soul dying all those years ago during that massage mini game

the combat was nice though, I'll give you that
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>>341421396
waifus didn't exist back then.
x-2 had a solid gameplay
you can't deny it.
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>>341421489
waifus have existed since the 60s
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>>341421396
Whatever, you sound like a serious retard for taking video game stories (especially jrpgs) seriously.
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>>341421489
wat
I had ff waifus since ff7
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>>341421610
>lel video games shouldn't aspire to be anything more than fanservice for lonely virgins like me xDDD

go die in a fire faggot, "people" like you are the reason modern JRPGs are moeshit trash
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>caring about random E-celeb opinion
>When we already had two demo to make our own opinion

wew lads, how it is to be a sheep?
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>>341421918
All you are achieving here is making yourself look even stupider you know
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>>341421941
I don't know, I gave up on FF over a decade ago was never hyped for the obvious turd that is FF15.
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>>341408997
I literally don't give a fuck if it's "slightly below BEST GAME EVARRRR MAAADE"

I love Square and we need them in the industry. Final Fantasy is a staple of video games, and it MUST persist. Perhaps next time, we can get a final fantasy akin to this demo here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVX0OUO9ptU

I just feel bad that a lot of these "problems" all came from Square being dumb and listening to so much feedback. The Duscae 2.0 demo and their direction with the E3 2014 trailers was PERFECT, especially the camera angles, but oh nooooo /v/ had to open up their big fucking mouths and request MUH AERIAL COMBOS MAKES IT CUHRAZIERRRRR!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDI0p2wf1J4
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>>341422030
>stupider
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>>341420906
>Having unlimited time to perform actions is more dumb than real time action no matter how you spin it. Deal with it nerds.

And every final fantasy after 2 didn't have unlimited time you retard.
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>>341408997
Fair enough. The Microsoft demo wasn't very good, they just gave more reasons.
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>>341422281
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/stupid

Please educate yourself.
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>>341422163

Same, i think that FFXV will be an Okay game, not the savior or anything like that.

But for /v/ Okay game don't exist, they are either GOTY or Mediocre.
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>>341422190
Bullshit.

FF died with the XIII trilogy. Let it rest in peace.

XV is not even FF; it's some kind of action game with the gayest cast in history
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>>341422690
What is an FF game to you?
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Basically this game will be hot steaming shit, and since the losses will be huge we'll get another two games set into this universe minimum because they have to recoup all the money spent into the assets (see ff13 series).
So not only we have nothing to look forward to, but it's guaranteed even the next SE projects are going to be shit because of this one game.
Where did it all go so wrong
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Anything about FFXII remaster at the E3?
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>>341422616
please play better games waifufag
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>>341422972
They fixed the voice audio.
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>>341408997
its still a good 'go camping with your bisexual friends'-simulator
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>>341422690
Final Fantasy is all about being different and being at the forefront of next gen. That's literally all final fantasy is.

I own EVERY single one. It's one of my favorite franchises. It is THE quintessential franchise in gaming. We need Final Fantasy to continue to show us what next gen is.
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I think most devs can see clearly that VR is going to be a massive failure and Sony is pressuring them to be inclusive of the shitty fad so they're putting out half-assed semi-ports.
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>>341423153
If XV is next gen then next gen is garbage

I don't want this gay cast and I sure as hell don't want this fucking atrocious combat
*teleports away*
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>>341421031
>X-2 has the best combat in the series. Dressphere is amazing.
But that's fucking wrong.

ATB fills up while the long ass animation of almost every single attack plays out so it becomes little more than turn based.
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>>341423153
>Final Fantasy is all about being different and being at the forefront of next gen.

Is that why 4 was moved over from the NES to the SNES mid production?
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>>341423429
I thought they just flat out cancelled IV and renamed V to IV.
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>>341410172

ouch this doesn't sound good at all
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>>341419068
Jap don't like the fujobait?
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>>341420527
Please happen
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>>341423895
Don't know why you expected anything else. It was obvious just watching the microsoft demo, yes, Mark did stuff up, but even still you could tell what he was supposed to do and how boring it is.


>b-but I imagined teleporting up giant monsters and stabbing their vitals
too bad
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>>341424218

>Mark
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>>341421031
>comparing FF turn based combat to chess
holy shit
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>>341424414

yeah naostalgiafags are pretty delusional
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>>341423061
not even the same person but wow you are a moron
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>>341426012
he's right though, games like X-2 and modern persona/fire emblem are the cancer killing JRPGs
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>>341414889
I just pre-ordered Fractured But Whole because I've now got a free copy of Stick of Truth and the game will auto-download while I'm at work ready for me when I get back
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>>341408997
Guess you missed the part where they said no such thing?
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I just wanted my weeb game with bros and no hoes where we do stupid shit.

Is there still hope?
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>>341414546
>t-they are paid

They played the exact same thing that EZA played, stop being in denial.

>>341413609
And they were all genuine. But you should also realize that Ben and Damiana self admitted that they didn't know the context of what was happening, they didn't know how to play the game and do cool things, they didn't know that the newspaper scene is supposed to be feel and keep you in the dark, and that a fucking wasteland desert is suppposed to be one. Ben also went on to say that the stuff he saw at SE stage show was much much better than what he played and that even despite the shortcomings he still had a good time with it.

Damiani is also a self admitted FF13 fan and Ben has said multiple times that he likes Advent Children.
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>>341413810
They didn't remove them, the build the played didn't have them on purpose to avoid spoilers. They also didn't get to play chapter 0 for the same reason. The opening cutscenes and chapter 0 were purposely left out of the build that they played.
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>>341414725
If FFXV isn't good I'm gonna lose it. Some of you guys are alright. Don't come to /v/ on the 30th.
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>boring "open world" as seen in Duscae
>absolutely GARBAGE performance as seen in Platinum Demo
>a mess of a showing the past few media blowouts
>Spritis Within 3.0 electric boogaloo
>no girls allowed in the party

Fuck it, just give me my World of Final Fantasy already, XV is done.
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>>341413545
They played a PC dev build.

>the combat doesn't feel as polished as the second version of Duscae,
That goes against everything we've seen.

>the world feels empty
>world
You mean the fucking desert area that is chapter 1 feels like a desert? No shit. Even in the footage from today I see giant scorpion monsters, giant rhino monsters, giant bird monsters roaming the field, and NPCs at the diffferent outposts n shit.

>e plot feels like it's missing crucial pieces
They didn't get to watch the opening cutscenes or play chapter 0, and they also misunderstood the context of the scene being purposely set up so that you feel in the dark and left out because that is how Noctis is feeling at that moment.
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>>341417547
Today footage confirmed you can turn off the HUD.
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>>341420210
These dumb fucks don't realize that 0.2 is literal end game BBSFM state Aqua abilities and combat, while chapter 1 of XV is Noctis with barely any abilities, skills or weapons.

Ben has also stated multiple times that he has no idea how to do all the cool things in XV that he sees other people doing.
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>>341414725
Yeah no, already explained why EZA guys were wrong.
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>>341428106
>literal end game BBSFM state Aqua
But that's wrong.
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>>341408997
I think I'll still have fun with it. Looks better than most jrpgs that come out these days. How you guys enjoy the newer Tales and Atelier games but critique this is beyond me.
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>>341428507
>How you guys enjoy the newer Tales and Atelier games

what makes you think we enjoy them?
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>>341420762
This post made me cringe.
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>>341428478
No it's true, watch what she does, she has literal end game abilities and magic with long extended combos.
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>>341428627
I'm addressing the people who still play new jrpgs. I don't care about /v/ opinions from kids who are just here to shitpost.
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>>341428507
>How you guys enjoy the newer Tales and Atelier games
Those games have better combat, framerate and even story. I'll take no story, just making items for people over cringe inducing FF shit.

But hey I don't know how you could enjoy a homoerotic adventure through a lifeless world mashing X.
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>>341428826
She has aga spells, which are obtainable 2 hours into the game through melding and enemies literally drop them another hour in anyway.
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>>341428847
>people who still play new jrpgs

oh retards, gotcha
carry on
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FFXV-kun/bazztek doing his damage control. Don't fall for it.
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>>341428847
Last jrpg I played was 30 second yuusha and that doesn't even have tha mucht in terms of gameplay . Face it lad, the genre is dead
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>>341408997
Jeff from Giant Bomb said the game was good from what he played at the behind closed doors thing. So did people at IGN, Venturebeat, Destructoid and Arstechnica all saying positive things.

In fact Ben himself said he had a good time with what he played but there were some issues, the three he mentioned were the framerape/crashing, which is because it was a PC dev build. The second was the desert wasteland area being "empty", despite it being a desert wasteland area so that was the point. The 3rd was the newspaper scene which he said himself he didn't get the context for and that was because they didn't see the opening cutscneses or play chapter 0, and because he didn't know the context it's why he didn't know that it was supposed to feel sudden because that's how it is happening to Noctis.
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>>341429019
Just watch the footage, she has end game level spells, movement abilities and combos because it takes place right after BBS and the point is that she is high leveled at that point.
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>>341429382
>despite it being a desert wasteland area so that was the point.

why would they start you off in a desert area?
have they learned nothing from XII?
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>>341429536
Because the earth is decaying around Lucis.
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>>341429463
Yep, still just some regular aga spells.
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>>341429536
fuck you
Hunting cactus monsters in the desert at the start of XII was comfy
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>>341429706
Yeah and how about you see them being cast you moron. They are massive spells and not the small shit like in start game BBS.

She also has her double jumps, air dashes, ground dashes and more which are things you don't get until way later on in BBS.
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>>341429047
Haha nice one! Zing!
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>>341429382
Oh so just another pathetic bait thread

Nothing to see here folks
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>>341429597
it's still a terrible way to get people hyped about your game
>>341429718
please no more talk about XII, I'm having trouble staying awake as is
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>>341429382
Thanks for a post of actual substance among a sea of youtube comments.
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>>341429821
Calm down with this unwarranted hostility please. They still behave the same as they did in the original game, Thundga is still an AoE, Blizzard is still a projectile that occasionally freezes the target and Firaga still has tracking. The only difference I've noticed is that Blizzaga creates a flow motion rail along the ground which obviously wouldn't exist in the original since flow motion hadn't been introduced yet. Likewise the air dash is obtained at a similar point in the game. I'm playing through it currently and at 4 hours in I have greater abilities than those that were displayed in the footage.
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>>341420681
Where did this meme come from? Turn based is the ultimate definition of a casual combat system which is exactly why final faggotry was popular in the first place, every gamur grill and cheeto eating neckbeard can mash through it
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>>341428981
I don't think it will be quite as homoerotic and x-mashy as you say. Perhaps you were exaggerating just a tad there?
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>>341430307
Are you 18? You type like a 14-year-old. It's embarrassing.
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>>341430482
you know it IS summer right
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>>341430349
Are you actually retarded? That's literally all we've seen of the game.

The story has no appeal now that they got rid of the Yakuza influences and sprinkled a shitty anime and movie onto the lore.

The anime is unarguably gay.

And we know the combat is shallow and boring as hell. Tales games as a whole are worse but some are better than this..

Not that guy by the way.
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>>341430482
Nobody who ever liked final fantasy was 18, thats for sure
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>>341429940
What? It throws you in the wilderness and gives a full on road trip vibe
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>>341430141
They are massive spells, she has end game level combo and mobility too. Start game Aqua only does a three hit combo, this Aqua does more multiple that chain.
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>>341431018
You are just being willfully ignorant at this point.
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>>341430626
>they got rid of the Yakuza influences
They didn't, just because they wear ceremonoal cloaks on ceremony days doesn't mean they got rid of the yakuza mob suits, which we still see the higher ups of Lucis wearing including Regis.

The anime is great and the movie looks god tier.

>And we know the combat is shallow and boring as hell.
But that's wrong on multiple levels.
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>>341431153
No I'm not. She is literal at an end game level of combo ability, mobility and magic spell casting which we see in the 0.2 footage are massive spells and not the shitty spells weak versions like in BBS. They clearly just buffed the spells but kept the names so that even her "weaker" spells are even stronger than her other spells.
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>>341431193
Yes they did, they ruined the father figure of the game and the art and mood of the characters has been completely changed. It's all about gay knights now.

The anime is for queers and the movie looks to be the same.

It's always been right.

Fuck off xv-kun.
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>>341431373
>He disliked diary of a fat kid
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>>341431373
Oh look more footage of the botched MS conference which is already invalid.

>they ruined the father figure of the game
No they didn't.

>and the art and mood of the characters has been completely changed.
Prompto and Luna were slightly changed from their 2013 design and Regis got a new face, he still has his same exact outfit and voice actor.

>It's all about gay knights now.
It was ALWAYS fucking classical fantasy mixed with urban fantasy. Lucis was ALWAYS classical in culture which is why they use fucking crystal magic and swords as their weapons while wearing modern clothes, which Regis STILL FUCKING DOES.

The anime is good and the movie is the best CGI in a CGI film to date.

It hasn't on any level, the combat in XV already has more depth to it than any KH ever had. Combat in XV requires more input than any KH ever had.

Fuck off yourself Anti-kun
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>>341431321
It takes 3 blizzaga to take out a fire element heartless in 0.2, that's a bit weak for an endgame spell.
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>>341431759
Yes they did ruin him, he looks like a weak rat faggot now.

Putting aside that the main characters always were shit, I was talking about the supporting cast. The new style is worse than anime as a whole, it's fucking bad and it will tank since only faggots like you can enjoy it.

>bla bla I'm an autistic fanboy
Speak english, nobody knows what any of that means.

The movie looks fucking terrible, KH never had depth, and the combat requires you to press one button to attack and one to dodge, wow so many inputs.

Stay autistic you lying nigger shitposter.
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>>341431809
Or those are simply stronger resistence fire enemies plus in realm of darkness which is an end game area
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>>341432247
No they didn't, he looks even stronger and wrrior like now.

The supporting cast besides Prompto and Luna all look identical to how they looked in 2013. Nice autism though

>blahblah
So you are autisic after all. So basically you are just another lying nigger calling someone else a nigger because you are trying to be as contrarian as possible.
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>>341432389
>he looks even stronger and wrrior like now.
Not even 12 year old faggots talk like this, especially when it's blatantly wrong. He gained 30 years and looks like a rat, he's garbage.

No they don't.

Nice cop out, nigger. I guess you're tired of lying after days of being wrong.
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>>341432273
Why would an endgame area have ordinary heartless that you'd see at the beginning of any other KH game hanging around instead of the heartless we see in the secret episode?
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>>341408997
>twitch
>listening to rude uneducated americans talk about their impressions on games they don't understand
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>throw blue pokeballs
>hit giant arm with little sword
>it shatters
>people think this is cool
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>>341433393
Nobody thought it was cool. That's why everyone is shitting on it except for the dedicated (read autistic) fans.
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I don't understand people who thought this was going to be a good game. Have you learned nothing from their games past 9? They have lost all direction.
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>>341433714

x and xii were really good
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>>341420441
You're a stupid motherfucker.

I wonder how many other stupid motherfuckers like you stick out in this thread.
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>>341433714
X-2, XII IZJS, and XIII LR were all good.
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I lost faith after the FFXV Uncovered event.
HOWEVER, I was hoping this game would deliver to whoever still believed.
I wanted to think that it was a problem on my end, not on the whole of the game.

Damn shame.
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>>341408997

Do they give reasons why its bad? I enjoyed the previews at e3
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>>341428981
No they do not. And you are 200% fucking cringey as fucking shit for playing those rather than Final Fantasy.

>>341430626
You sound like a fucking 12 year old.
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>>341433393
It's like someone took the worst autists from deviantart they could find and gave them millions of dollars to make a video game.
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>>341433714
It's like when your dog is about to die. You hope but deep inside, you know it will happen
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>>341434204
>X-2
the moment FF died, terrible game
>XII IZJS
better than regular XII, still dull as dirt
>XIII LR
haven't played after the abomination that was XIII, don't plan to
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>>341432562
So basically you have shit taste and can't see an actual warrior king when you see one.

>No they don't.
Nigger why are you lying? Noctis, Gladiolus, Ignis, Cor, Iedolas, Ardyn, Gentiana, Verstael all look identical now to how they looked in 2013, and Ravus (white hooded guy) is confirmed to still be in the game. Only Regis, Prompto and Luna had minor design changes since 2013. Everyone else stayed the same.

But I guess a blind nigger such as yourself can't see facts. Keep sperging your autism.
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>>341434540
you just have shit taste, go play your casual games like Far Cry Horizon
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>>341432562
>WAH FAGGOT MEME GARBAGE
You literally sound like a fucking 12 year old you stupid fucking faggot. I read your cringe-inducing posts and it was as if I watched an episode of Family Guy because you throw vulgar like a shitposting loser.

The anime did good and it is great.
The movie looks fucking fantastic.
KH has always had depth. Yes, games can have depth without every button being the attack button you stupid motherfucker. KH's depth comes into surrounding enemies and distance from them, changing how you will play the game and mixing up your strategy. Way better than pressing a button to do the work for you. Super effective!

Work on how you talk to people. You sound like a 16 year old.
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>>341433714
>They have lost all direction.
You mean gained all the good art direction. FF9 had terrible art direction.
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the ff7 remake will end the franchise for good

get your funeral dress ready
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>>341434258
We heard you the first time you samefagged.
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>You are 12
>No you are 12

Time out kids
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>>341434284
Refer to >>341429382
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>>341434882
The game has been in development for 10 years, they changed them since the start.

Why are you acting like such a spastic mad baby? It's okay to be wrong.

>>341434984
>IM MAD AS FUCK WHY ARE YOU 12?
Sorry for being right.

The anime and movie are fucking shit looking and will bomb.

KH is a shallow button masher.

You are a spastic fuck.
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>>341434284
Basically they're saying the combat system is unintuitive and that if all you do is button mashing you struggle and it's annoying.
Then another guy mentioned "I saw some people online doing amazing things, maybe it just has a learning curve" and then the others went silent, apparently alien to the concept of having to learn things to play a game.
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>>341434912
>likes X-2
>tells someone he has shit taste

you're adorable
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>>341435375
X-2 has genuinely good game mechanics, good missions, and some of the best optional content in the series.
I'm sorry you're so casual you couldn't get past the J-Pop or missed all the interesting content because there was no cinematic story to hold your hand.
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>>341433714
>I DONT UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT THINGS. I DONT UNDERSTAND I DONT UNDERSTAND. I DONT UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT THINGS. WAHHH. THE WHOLE WORLD IS A VIDEO GAME CONSPIRACY. ALL THE COMPANIES LOST IT. WAH. I DONT UNDERSTAND I DONT UNDERSTAND
Get the fuck out faggot.

>>341435304
The anime and movie are fucking great and won't "HUR BOMB", and you're a piece of fucking stupid ass shit for thinking this massively popular series isn't already succeeding.

KH is a great action RPG and nothing else plays like it, I don't give a fuck about your thoughts though, you can die for all I care.

And you're fucking retarded and I hate you. You meme spouting shitposting motherfucker. Kill yourself for fuck's sake.
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>>341408997
>The fat dude start to talk
>The 2 guys that are on media black out start to lose hope that this is going to be a good game
Damn...
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>>341435304
Nomura changed the fucking designs you dumb cunt.

Noctis, Gladiolus, Ignis, Aranea and Iedolas look identical to how they looked in the 2011 Versus trailer, and Prompto and Regis still have the same outfits they had in the 2011 Versus trailer. Gentiana, Verstael, Ardyn and Cidney were confirmed to be designed in 2010 but we only first saw them once it was XV in 2013 and Cidney in 2014, and their designs haven't changed at all since their first appearance.

The only change from 2013 designs to now is Regis, Prompto and Luna.

And for fucks sakes you dumb cunt 10 years ago Noctis was the only character that existed. Regis, Prompto and Ravus were revealed in 2007, Stella, Ignis and Gladio in 2008. All of them were redesigned by Nomura in 2010 and we saw their redesigns with their Roen outfits in 2011. That was when we also saw Iedolas and Aranea for the first time.

In 2013 Stella was changed to Luna and got a new design, and we saw Ravus's new design, and every other character we saw from the Versus trailers had the same design they had since the 2011 trailer, and it was the first time we saw Ardyn, Verstael and Gentiana.

In 2014 Cidney was revealed and that is when Luna and Prompto had minor design changes from their 2013 design, for Prompto only his hair style was changed and face minor tweaked, he's still in the same outfit since the 2011 Versus trailer. For Luna minor face tweaks and her hair is now worn tied up. Regis's face/hair was changed to match his motion capture actor in 2015 but he still has the same outfit he has had since the 2011 Versus trailer. Everyone else has had the same outfits and designs since their 2013 version.
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>>341435628
the only thing it has going for itself is the "changing jobs mid battle" mechanic, literally everything else is cringe inducing garbage
by far the most offensively bad FF along with XIII
I'd rather replay II for all eternity
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>>341435817
>FFXV
>massively popular
literally the majority of people who have played the game say its shit. They have no interest in the garbage anime or the pretentious CG film with shit characters. Even if it's free.

KH is button mashing shit made for kids and edgelord manchildren. There's nothing good about it.

>And you're fucking retarded and I hate you. You meme spouting shitposting motherfucker. Kill yourself for fuck's sake.
Stay autistic and mad you fat nigger piece of shit.

>>341436004
No need to samefag you spastic fuck, I already know how mad you are. I'm not reading your drivel again.
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