Is it possible to acquire a good pc for $1000 or less?
yes.
/thread
>>341373340
Yes.
>>341373340
Yes
>>341373340
Yeah, buy the ps4 or xbox one. Games are well optimized.
Easily. It's when it gets to $400 or less when it becomes a meme.
>>341373340
Very much yes, and with a 960gtx even to run every game out on max.
>>341373340
Depends. Just pc or are you including monitor, keyboard and mouse. If you are, then no
Easily. But everyone will laugh at your pathetic rig
A better question would be if you could do it with $400-$500
>>341373340
Assuming you already have a monitor speaker/headphones, mouse and keyboard then absolutely yes.
What about $1000 CAD?
>>341373340
yes I built a new pc for like 600ish bucks but I bought some parts that allowed me to OC a non k processor saving me some cash
>>341373340
is that the obsidian 800?
>>341373714
>960gtx
>Can run everything on max
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>341373340
Yes
$800 is actually about the optimal price to performance. After that point, you're paying a premium.
Yes, but anyone planning to buy a PC would do well to wait until near to the end of the year when all the latest gen hardware will be released and fully benchmarked. There should be some better deals by then.
>>341373340
Yes if you build it yourself. If you're a prebuilt faggot then you deserve everything bad that has ever happened to you and/or will happen to you.
>>341373340
i5 6600k
Radeon RX 480
600W Seasonic/EVGA PSU
1TB HDD
256GB SSD
8GB RAM
You can get it for less than $1000
>>341373340
yeah but I'd wait a few months for the current generation of gpus to roll out and the inventory situation to stabilize
I'd like to get back into games and have been out for roughly four years now but I don't want to go back to being an 360fag. Mostly because I want to play all the Witcher games. Unfortunately, I know nothing of hardware and am a lazy autist.
>>341374241
How well would any of that play Witcher 3 for a reference?
>>341373974
>He thinks you need a super clocked GTX 1080 to run the most recent game purchases.
Motherfucker I run DOOM on a 970m on my laptop on max with NO fucking problems, quit bullshitting.
>Oh no my game skipped a frame.
Turn down AA by one, WOW ITS NOTHING!
Sure, but you'd be better off waiting until AMD releases their new GPUs.
They're said to be price/performance kings, but who knows.
>>341373957
Na too small to be an 800D. Mine barely fits under my table kek.
>>341373340
now that a 480 is 200 dollars, yes absolutely
>>341374451
60fps with everything on ultra and no hairworks. If you want more than 60fps you can spend a little more and get a GTX 1070
>>341374603
how do I know you're not Paul Bunyan?
>>341374710
Kek
>>341374507
Bro you're delusional if you think a 960 can play TW3 at max unless you want to play it at less than 60 fps, LET ALONE 144
Stop talking out of your ass
>>341374507
You clearly said "at max", you are incredibly incorrect
>>341374702
Cool. Thanks for that. It helps a lot.
i run hairshit in witcher3 on my 970 easily. cdpr patched it ages ago so you can control the aa sampling in the game options, turn it down and it runs fine, though you really only notice it when you're fighting wolves or fiends.
>>341374904
>The Witcher 3
>Max settings
Oh lordy, a game with poorly compressed shit in a game runs like a slug? HEAVENS BE ITS ALMOST LIKE IM BACK IN THE TIME WHEN CRYSIS WAS THE BIG BENCHMARK TOO!
>How to make Witcher 3 not run like ass on a 970m.
>Turn AA down.
Wow its fucking nothing times two.
Seriously, even Fallout 4 played like utter dog shit on my old 780 due to one of the AA options having a bug in it, its been since patched, now runs like a dream.
Stop acting like these games require a fucking liquid cooled super computer to run anymore when half the shit can be ran on a toaster.
>>341375469
Tldr; backtracking
>>341374507
At dense forest I get drops to ~45-50fps on a 390X while maxing the game out. You can still lower a few settings like foliage distance to gain fps, but then it stops being 'maxed out'
>>341375303
>Muh cherry picked two games.
Ok, fine then, tell op to go spend half his budget on a GTX 1080, or to wait till the 480's come out then.
You lose nearly nothing from turning MSAAX16 down to MSAAX8 or so.
>>341375543
>muh feefee's
>>341373340
$1000 is the number you should strive for. you get the best bang for your buck, with current-gen PC with an i5 and $300-$400 card, plus 16 GB of good memory and an SSD.
Once you start raising your budget you get diminishing returns for your money.
>>341375663
Battlefront, Witcher, Fallout, BF4, Tomb Raider, I guarantee you that zero of those games play 60+ at max on a 960
>>341375385
You'll get a lot of different opinions on builds, so the best you can do is research and get to your own conclusions. The only things that are almost universally agreed on are the unlocked i5 and 8GB of RAM being enough for gaming, and that you need a PSU from a good brand.
The 480 is my personal choice of GPU because it'll have a really good performance with low price and power comsumption, but we still need a release date (it will be soon, I hope)
>>341373340
Buy a PS4 for under $300 instead
>>341376140
I play all of those on a GTX 780.
>>341373340
you need to ask yourself some questions.
do you play all the mmo grindy shooters with cinetrash effects cranked to 99?
do you need a higher res than 1080?
do you even have a remote interest in overclocking?
do you plan to ever use more than one display?
do research and buy only what you need, there's no need to buy a 250mph ferrari machine when all your doing is the video game equivalent of driving 2 blocks down the road for groceries.
>>341373340
Yes, it's called Project Scorpio
>>341375663
You can't max out any AAA game from 2014 onwards with a 960. It's a mid range card with mid range performance, as it should
>>341376370
At max? At 60 fps+? No you don't
>>341376140
it does on the 970 tho =]
>>341374507
Motherfucker I run doom on my 980M on medium at 45fps.
Get your lying ass out of here.
>>341373957
carbide 100r
>>341374241
What a fucking waste.
First of all, your average vtard doesn't need an unlocked i5 because they aren't going to do a custom overclock ever.
Second off, a 256gb ssd is a huge fucking waste in a $1k budget build. An SSD can be bought at any time and installed later.
Could spend that money elsewhere and get a top tier gpu instead. You can't "upgrade" a GPU once it's been bought and going with a 480 in a $1k build is retarded when a $550 budget build can use the same card and get the same performance.
People give the the worst advice in threads like these, I truly hope no one follows this crap.
>>341376506
Yes, I did, which is why I kept the motherfucker for so long, and if I experienced any slight issue, I just overclocked it a tad and presto.
I only just upgraded to the newest GTX cause I plan on getting into VR later this year with games like Resident Evil 7.
The 780 was a fucking monster man.
>>341373340
>AMD PC
>$400
>Same price as PS4
>Stronger
>Faster
>Better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C72a1TU-SWM
Why do you own a PS4, for games? Games that continue to release on PC?
>>341376574
Wrong again, get a frame rate counter. $50 it's averaging mid 50's
>>341376674
>He dosent have his laptop overclocked, gotta love MSI man.
>>341376745
Maybe it's his monitor?
>>341376574
>Knowingly buying a purposefully gimped 3.5gb card
You deserve all the shit you get if you buy a 970 like a fucking retard.
Every new release is unplayable until they build a custom driver for it.
You are held hostage by nvidia every single new release if you buy their meme card.
>>341373340
Yes.
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
Optimal range is about $750 imo.
>>341376857
>Frame rate counter.
You do realize that shit comes for fucking free on most monitors, and all GPUS themselves.
>>341376686
>First of all, your average vtard doesn't need an unlocked i5 because they aren't going to do a custom overclock ever.
Projecting, it's easy to do and grant youa very good performance boost
>Second off, a 256gb ssd is a huge fucking waste in a $1k budget build. An SSD can be bought at any time and installed later.
That's debateable, but you have your point
>Could spend that money elsewhere and get a top tier gpu instead. You can't "upgrade" a GPU once it's been bought and going with a 480 in a $1k build is retarded when a $550 budget build can use the same card and get the same performance.
You don't need anything higher than a 480 to play at 1080p, so a more expensive GPU will be wasted money. Also with a 1070/980ti you'll certainly be bottlenecked by a locked i5
>>341376857
Well, I dont know what to tell you buddy cuzz I ran Witcher, Tomb Raider, and Fallout on 60 fps.
>>341376745
No, you're just too deep into your lie at this point and won't admit a basic truth. The 970 does not have the capability of running any of those games listed at max settings for 60+ fps
You're either just plain lying or you really don't know your real fps, probably the latter. I would bet my life that it averages in the 40's with some spikes into the 50's and lows in the 30's
in 2013 i bought a pc for 1000$, still runs games on med-high 60 fps
>>341373340
Absolutely not, and anyone who tells you otherwise is a PCfag who is flat out lying.
I followed advice from these dishonest neckeards on how to build a $500 PC that was supposed to outperform a PS4. It does, but only if you turn everything down to medium or fucking low, otherwise your stuck with performance so bad an N64 could probably play games better than this piece of shit computer.
The sub $1000 PC is a meme
DO NOT FALL FOR IT
>>341373340
I've never found it all to be easy to find a PC that can run some of the more complex games of today AND can fit in my budget.
Normally I relied on consoles like Xbox and PS4 to just be something I can play games on without giving any thought as to whether or not it'll run because every game on them SHOULD be running perfectly, aside from minor things here and there.
With PCs, however, I never really know what I'm getting into or what anything means. What's the difference between a GTX 960 and a Radeon 77NumbersNumbers? What do Quad Cores do and how do they affect my games? Can I find a decent PC like OP that's pretty amazing and won't empty my wallet?
I've wanted to get into PC gaming for such a long time but I don't even know where to start. Is there a guide somewhere I can read that'll help me understand this stuff, /v/?
>>341377083
Post a screenshot then, I'm calling you out
>>341373340
God yes. You can make a computer that out performs both consoles for less than 400. 1000 dollars is a very good budget for a PC.
>>341377132
>No anon you just lie because my equipment is pure shit.
Maybe your card is being bottlenecked by everything thing else thats sub par in your system?
Like what I say or not, I could give two shits less, cause my shit ran it, I played it, and I moved on.
I'm sorry you wasted money on garbage though I guess.
is it okay to buy a prebuilt PC and then just buy a new video card after some time? Not really a graphics freak anyways, just want to play so,e current games without lag.
>>341377245
what do you expect from a 500$ pc
cough up those 500$ extra and it will last through the lifetimes of two or three consoles
>>341377060
>bottlenecked by CPU
Bottlenecked in shit video games like CSGO that don't utilize your GPU to even 50%, except for their broken smoke effects, which max out your GPU and cause your driver to crash when there are too many on the map, sure.
There is no CPU bottleneck in applications that actually use your GPU properly like video encoding and 3D rendering.
>>341377245
What are your fucking specs? Also, why would you listen to /v/ of all places instead of googling good parts you aspie? I built a rig for $450 in 2013 and it ran shit maxed out 60 fps 1080 until late last year, and all I had to do to improve performance was upgrade my CPU.
>>341377395
When did I say I had a 970? I have a 980ti
>>341377570
>980ti
>ti
>>341377431
>>341377526
>thinking this cocksucker actually has a gaming PC
>implying he isn't a bootyblasted Sonypony who will never ever get Warband
>>341377395
Yeah, it ran, you played it, but not at max, and not at 60 fps
Seriously you aren't talking to some tech illiterate, I built my rig last january and I am very up to date with the current state of graphics cards. You can't just lie to me and get away with it
>>341377694
I'm not sure what you're getting at
>>341377426
I wouldn't really recommend doing that but there's no reason you couldn't, also be aware that most prebuilts come with awful power supplies that can barely power the components it already has, you'll likely need to replace that depending on the card you upgrade to.
Any good prebuilt PCs? Building one yourself seems too stressful.
>>341377303
pcs are simple
8gb ram
any motherboard with sockets that the rest of your shit fits into
an i5 processor
nvidia is better amd is cheaper (graphics card)
a power supply unit that can provide the amount of watt each part requires (as listed on each parts specifications)
and of course you need a hard drive and a case to put it all in
the i5 processor comes with a heatsink, and the case probably comes with some fans
putting it together is like legos
>>341377827
I'm unironically very very excited for the new Mount and Blade.
>>341376881
>overclocking a gaymen laptop
Enjoy your expensive paperweight.
>>341378021
Generally speaking, no. They're usually overpriced and have shitty power supplies.
>>341376957
>>341377461
Thanks, Anon. I'll give this a read at work during my break. Appreciate the guidance.
>>341377840
If you are so tech smart, then you surly understand the concept of "overclocking"
>>341377303
I suggest checking out lifehacker's guide on how to build a computer. It's a good place to start especially if you know nothing about computer hardware. After you read everything bookmark PCPartPicker and Logical Increments because you'll be using those two quite a lot.
Computers have become so fucking expensive these days.
I paid like 500 dollars in the past and it lasted four years, I can't pull the same shit now.
That's the price for paying for memes.
>>341377483
My 390x get bottlenecked by my i5 4460 in games like GTAV and TW3; considering the 480 will have about the same performance, he'll be bottlenecked too. An unlocked CPU is only a bit more expensive, so the performance bump is worth the hassle
>>341378182
I sure do, and I sure as hell still call you a liar even if you're squeezing that thing for all it's worth
>>341378456
Oh, so you do understand what I was doing, and understand that I CAN pump out all that its worth, yet still I lie.
Well, could give a fuck, my super clocked 780 is now in a box in my closet chilling as my 1080 does its work.
>>341378435
I couldn't imagine what my life would be like if I had a locked i5 3570
>>341378747
>Buying a STOCK GPU
AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHABABAVAVAGVDHDJCIEBDBSKAKBSBXKXOAMDBHZ
Now I KNOW you're retarded
>>341375936
In terms of purely gaming performance yeah that's when the value starts to drop off but there's plenty of places to sink money that are either linear improvements like storage or "quality of life" like your monitor, case, or other peripherals.
>>341379032
>UR RETARDED!
No its called disposable income, and I could give two fucks about it.
>>341378902
It's not that bad and, since I'm not too worried about constant 60fps. It stops being a problem when I crank the resolution up and get the same performance considering the GPU starts kicking in
I have a PC building business and have built 6 PCs just last month. Lifetime builds probably around 80. A good PC is easy to get under 1k.
For UNDER $800 - especially with Mail in rebates etc.
CPU - i5 6500 - $205
GPU - RX 480 - $200
RAM - 16GB - $60
Case - $40
1151 Motherboard - $80
240GB SSD - $60
1TB HDD - $60
PSU $60
Windows $32
>>341373340
If you pay MORE than $1000 for gaming you're a god damn fool. You could put something together for around 600-800 that will last you a long ass time.
>>341380210
Lol, knew it
>>341380210
Exposed
>>341373674
kek
>>341379362
>Windows $32
Pretty sure you can shave off $32 off that build suggestion of yours straight away if you're not doing it as part of your official business.
>>341380701
You're getting pretty cringe dude, just stop
>>341373714
>you mean RX 480
Who the fuck was dumb enough to buy a 960?
>>341376957
This is imo the best place to send a newbie looking to build a computer, its a really good intro and helped me build my first computer. Gives guidance with explanation and thats what any newbie needs.
>>341379362
How the fuck do you get windows for only 32 bucks?
>pcuck community
lmao
>>341377368
>less than 400
fucking lol, this number just gets lower and lower and it was already bullshit right from the start. i can't wait for "you can build a PC to outperform consoles for about twelve dollars"
>>341381160
If its an actual business, he probably gets a bulk discount for his codes.
>>341381296
This fucking mad that he wasted 600 dollars on a shitty console
>>341380968
>>341381160
kinguin dot net - Win10 professional OEM keys for $32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXTqz3Fd28M
>>341381070
Exposed little bitch
>le i'm actually getting the best of you logic
Goalposts are heavy, that's going to take more effort than providing proof. Don't talk out of your ass if you don't want to be called out you faggot. You craved this attention you little bitch, the only one jerking off right now is you.
>>341379362
Can you build me a computer that runs WoW on ultra settings. My current gaming computer can only run it on medium without severe fps drops.
>>341381582
>>341380847
>>341379563
> Autismo Rage over video cards
Shouldn't you be drawing sonic comics or something?
>>341381634
>Win10
>>341373340
I have that same case :3
>>341381087
*raises paw*
u-um I d-did, anon...
>>341381561
I have a high end PC, a PS4 and a Wii U. I also own my own house, a sports car, and a motorcycle. Money is not an issue to me. But ever since day one seeing that retarded "console killer for $600" bullshit I couldn't in my right mind act like that was ever real.
>>341373674
>Games are well optimized.
>run at 900p or 720p at 30 fps with massive drops
>some games may run at 24fps or less
I always laugh at people who say this argument. We live in the age of multiplats, nothing's optimized for consoles.
>>341382104
>he goes on the internet and lies about his video cards
>>341373340
Yes.
Top of the line rig should only cost you ~900$ not including the shell or monitor (since why the fuck wouldnt you have one of those two things)
If you really want bloodbourn get a PS4
if you really dont want video games get a bone
Wii u is always a good secondary
I'm sure I'd be promptly called a retard by at least 4 people if I posted my $2000 PC's specs, and told what parts I should have picked instead.
>>341382157
Not the same anon but it is though, having lots of money is irrelevant here since we are talking about saving money.
I spent a shitload on my PC also, yet I don't deny that I could've spent $600 or less and built a PC that was more powerful than my PS4 or Xbox One.
>>341382104
>gets mad over people thinking he's a little bitch liar
>goes on to say he doesn't care what people think
I know people like you have a hard time understanding your own stupidity, but you sure are making this easy. Thanks.
Show proof and you can feel good about yourself again. Until you realize you got your emotions worked up over the whole thing and start to understand that you are a sad husk of a human.
Honestly, we are about to hit a really good era with PC gaming:
>Game visual fidelity is starting to slow down, which means that a lot of newer mid range parts can play a lot of shit maxed out on 1080 or 1440p.
>Prices for last years parts are about to go way down with new card releases and CPUs and can play a lot of shit perfectly.
>New cards can reach 970-980 Ti levels for far less.
>The average consumer can get a cheap 1080p monitor or a decent 144hz 1080p one with a mid range PC build.
>A lot of shit is starting to come out on PC with Microsoft more or less turning W10 into the Xbox One platform, and more Japanese studios starting to port stuff over (and Japanese stuff typically runs on toasters well).
I am going to enjoy seeing a lot of the sales come black friday. Shits going to be pretty big.
>Mail in rebate
>>341382781
Nope, but I do have a job that pays very well, sends me on overseas business trips, and essentially kills my social life. Been single for about 3 years now.
If you'[re going to buy a PC go all out. Poorfags deserve to have shittier performance in their hobby, whether it's video games, cars or guns.
>spent 2k on gaming laptop
>desktop non option given circumstances
feels weird to spend this much on a hobby
If you already own a monitor, keyboard, mouse, headphones/speakers, os, then yes, otherwise no.
>>341383079
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>>341383242
Nope, I am from the New England area though.
>>341373863
No. $1200 for us at least
reminder that ALL pc gamers are richfags
No, if you don't have upwards of $4000 to spend on your pc not including monitors, don't even bother.
>>341382692
Print screen speccy then asswipe
>>341373340
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
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>>341383448
Not true I only have 500 dollars in my bank account and my computer can only run total warhammer on the lowest settings.
>>341376926
Sounds like bullshit.
>>341383448
rainbow six
>>341383448
I have a job and a 5 inch cock
>>341383607
Fuck off you stupid shill. That shit is against the rules and is a bannable offense Goldberg
