>no towns or villages
>hidden npc's just like in the first zelda
HNNNNNNNGG
I hope they speak in cryptic engrish. Adds to the mystery.
I didn't believe Aonuma could revive Zelda. But he proved me wrong.
>>341317631
At first I was excited but the more I watch the streams I notice it just looks like a big giant empty world. That would get boring really fast. I really hope there is big cities or small towns somewhere. Right now it just feels bland.
The shading looks straight from a PS2 game
>can't even make npc AI to create a fucking town
>everything is an empty landscape
H-H-HNNGG
>>341318683
Let me guess, Ocarina was your first Zelda.
>>341318683
They purposefully didn't show towns you retard, specifically because "They would give away too much information about the world"
>>341318303
>Aonuma making another crappy game
>reviving Zelda
Good one m8
i liked the solitary atmosphere in the trailer, SotC was the last game that felt that way
nintendo can rehash the same IP over and over and you fags will eat it up every time
>>341318949
This is the person that thinks it's fine to have an empty open world. AS LONG AS IT'S NINTENDO!
>>341317631
But I believe they've said in past conferences that there are towns, also the plateu is small as fuck in comprassion to the whole map, having no towns would be retarded.
>>341317631
What a huge disappointment this game turned out to be after waiting for it for years.
>no towns or npcs
>good
Oh, yeah OP. Can't wait to explore the cold, emptiness from "same environment" to "slightly different, but basically the same environment".
Why are there so many people mad about Zelda? It legitimately was the best looking game at E3. No generic zombies, no dudebro EA shit, no 40%+ of the game is cutscenes, no QTE's, no railroading, no handholding, and no """emotional""" story telling.
Recore was the runner up, obviously
>>341319668
>/v/ not being overwhelmed with shitposters
You don't come here for non-retarded discussion.
>>341319668
>no handholding
Top lel
>>341319272
>Empty
Are you kidding me? There were enemies fucking everywhere in the demos. The plateau is the smallest area of the map and there are at least 11 encampments, 2 ruins, a climbable mountain, a hidden Korok, 2 temples, and a bunch of "Guardians", whatever they are.
It's fucking chock full of things to do, without having to have a bunch of pointless NPCs. It's fucking perfect.
>>341318303
Revive as in turn in into a really uninteresting open world game that will be more running around like an asshole doing nothing than actually enjoying it?
Seriously, they are hitting all the low points of open world design which are endlessly criticized across other games. The Witcher 3 already shits all over it from a design standpoint.
>>341319668
We're on the hype train.
Its like spirit tracks. Everyone will say its shit and hate it or defend it to the death until it comes out then everyone will play it and go back to the exact same thing they did before the game came out because they don't care about the game they care about being right.
Zelda was made to 'make people feel smart' about solving puzzles. Its a game for kids.
>>341319965
>But it tells you how to use the item so it's handholding
You want us to read the game manual just to find out how to switch weapons?
>>341317631
it looks exactly like the last one
>>341317631
>Let's copy Witcher 3 but make the combat and world exploration worse
>>341319668
It had voice acting and has plenty of handholding. What the fuck are you talking about? Its one of the more underwhelming games shown at E3, even Spiderman looked more exciting.
>>341320123
>Uninteresting
Speak for yourself. It looks just as interesting to explore as Mira, not your run-of-the-mill Skyrim. Tons of shit to do everywhere.
>But you don't get railroaded through dungeons!
Good. It's perfect. Back to the roots of the best Zelda games. We needed more ALttP and less Awakening and Ocarina of Time.
>>341319668
Definitely doesn't make up for Nintendo not having a conference but it looks very different and I'm completely for that. I was surprised that it was a real open world to the point you can just chop whatever trees you want.
>>341320414
Mira blows it out of the water so far.
>>341320369
>Voice acting
Just the voice in the sky and the one that marks a place for you to go on the map. That's minimal as hell
>Handholding
Fucking where? Show me that you know what you're talking about and not shitposting based n hearsay.
>>341320414
Things to do such as?
Hell, Far Cry 3 had more activities.
>>341320536
We've seen the equivalent of the opening portions of Primordia, fampai. We haven't even made it out to Talon Rock yet.
>>341320356
It's impossible to make combat worse than the Witcher games.
>>341320597
Skyward Sword had tons of shit narrative, and will likely be shoe horned into this as well.
It's a Nintendo game you fucking monkey, everywhere. It's a game for children.
Xenoblade X was shit and this will be shit.
They're doing a spotlight on the story and npcs tomorrow retards
>>341320653
>Raid Bokoblin encampments for their resources and to get a stockpile of weapons going
>Visit the shrines dotted around the map that give you new abilities
>Go to the dungeons
>Fight the Guardians
>Climb the mountain and freeze to death
Just with what we've seen so far, in the starting area you get:
>Bombs
>Bow and arrows
>Magnetism powers
>Fire arrows
>>341320838
>It's a Nintendo game you fucking monkey, everywhere. It's a game for children.
Literally retarded and didn't watch the stream
>>341320838
>I don't know what I'm talking about: the post
Good to know you didn't watch the Treehouse play it and just shitposted based off of fucking hearsay. Just like everyone saying it's shit, lel. Mad Sonycucks.
>>341320795
Zelda seems to be consistent at being worse in every way honestly. There hasn't been a single Zelda game with good combat.
Witcher 3 systems already look more interesting and incorperate monster lore/weaknesses, as well as prep time, potions, bombs, traps, etc.
Everything in Zelda is braindead.
>>341321191
I did though. It will have tutorials and heavy handholding, what makes you think it won't?
>>341321289
I have a Wii U you desperate Nintendo fanboy. Is it really that hard to look at this game with some objectivity?
>>341320838
>It's a Nintendo game you fucking monkey, everywhere. It's a game for children.
Meanwhile
>Completely ignores that the only bit of """"handholding"""" we've seen so far is just a marker on the map saying "check this shit out"
>Everyone who played it was free to go wherever and do whatever they wanted
>Even just ignore the beaten path and climb a mountain to go in the other direction
Enjoy your (you)s
>>341321569
>Being able to plan a path in a dead overworld means it won't have handholding
Ok, lol.
>>341321490
>I have a Wii U you desperate Nintendo fanboy
And I'm Michelle Obama. Cool.
>Is it really that hard to look at this game with some objectivity?
See:
>>341320838
>It's a Nintendo game you fucking monkey, everywhere. It's a game for children.
Showing that you aren't being objective at all, since you have no proof and are going off of hearsay.
>>341321490
>Is it really that hard to look at this game with some objectivity?
>Meanwhile you better believe my baseless speculation about what's going to get "shoehorned" into the game!
>>341319146
>ITS OKAY WHEN MICROSOFT/SONY/3RD PUBLISHER DOES IT
>>341317631
Reminder for all the people complaining that this is essentially just the fucking tutorial area and its the smallest portion of the map in the game.
>>341320838
What a shit fucking post. This post just highlights all of the retards hating on the new Zelda for no reason. Sonyggers at it again.
>>341321727
>moving the goalposts
t. Sonycuck
>>341322031
None of the people complaining have seen the demo, or aren't fans of Zelda to begin with.
>>341321804
>Not being objective
Or just playing almost every Nintendo game in the past while which has large degrees of tutorials and heavy handholding. Even Skyward Sword was heavy handed. What's to say the past will not be repeated?
I can take a picture of my Wii U if you want you fucking idiot, if I can manage to find the piece of shit console.
>>341317631
>people said I was a mad man and a fool for wanting Nintendo to go back to the roots of Zelda
>they said no one wants to play a game full of mysterious with decayed ruins of a long gone civilization
>no one wants to feel that same sense of wonder when they first played the original LoZ
>Nintendo literally does everything I asked of them for the new Zelda
I have NEVER felt so prophetic in my entire life as I do today.
You're all fucking welcome.
>>341317631
Y-yeah true! It's bringing back the old model!
Nintendo w-won!
>>341322070
>no reason
Or people who have played an open world game before and can actually see all the faults in Nintendo design. They tend to do this pretty commonly, even don't use rendering techniques well.
Why am I a Sony fanboy? I have a Wii U.
There are towns, you fucks.
>He also wouldn’t talk about towns. “I can't share too much about villages because to tell you how the villages work, they're interconnected to the story and overall world.”
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/14/e3-2016-the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-hands-on-preview?page=3
>>341317631
>We want the dark souls audience
i wouldent mind playing this zelda game hell ill even buy a NX i saw link in something that looks like plate armor earlier threads
>>341321727
>Confirmed for having no idea what he is shitposting about
Successful bait.
>>341322245
>Nintendo has done it in the past so surely they'll do it again
Cool, when are they bringing back FLUDD? When are they bringing back 2 characters per kart? When are they bringing back The King of Red Lions?
>>341322245
Did you play the most recent Zelda game, A Link Between Worlds? Because that game let me wander off into the world and find a piece of heart in a cave before I even got a sword. Virtually no "handholding".
>>341322464
I've played plenty of open world games before you fucking idiot. This is closer to Subnautica than it is to Oblivion or Skyrim or FO4. This is 1987 Zelda open world.
>>341320653
>snowboarding
>being solid snake
>making contraptions with magnesis
>playing story
>exploration
>living the life of a hunter
>combat is more interesting than BANG BANG PEW PEW SHOOTER NUMBER 5000000 far cry shit number 7
>fight shit
>freeze on a mountain
>Climb on a mountain
>get struck by lighting
Im probably forgetting something but anyways yeah. This is also only the very beggining of the game so there could be TONS more.
>>341322547
How are gimmicks the same as tutorial heavy games, which is common among all their latest software?
The windwaker leaf came back actually, and it looks as boring as ever to use.
>>341322905
>tutorial heavy games, which is common among all their latest software?
Confirmed for not playing ALBW.
>>341322531
It's exactly like that. One of the first enemies you run into in the game can OHKO Link with a laser blast.
>>341322865
So a worse Witcher 3?
Hell, I'm sure Horizon will be more interesting.
I do find it funny despite everyone criticizing EVERY new game out there, mostly for their dead worlds, boring combat, design, aesthetic, downgrades, etc.
Zelda seems to get a free pass here. How weird is that? Why is every type of negative remark shut down as being a product of fanboyism rather than being critical?
>>341322905
>which is common among all their latest software?
No it fucking isn't.
See:
>Splatoon
>Smash 4
>Mario Kart 8
>ALBW
>Kirby TD and Robobot
Nintendo games haven't been handholdy lately. They bucked that trend back in 2012 - 3.
>>341322218
Im not a fan either, Im pretty apatheic towards zelda but so far this looks pretty good but still too early to make any real judgements, I had to go to class right as treehouse took over but i would like to see some puzzles.
People are already looking over small things that are pretty neat like being able to use the environment to engage enemies, setting plains on fire, using magic to find shit in the bottom of a pond.
Its certainly looking promising and I hope whatever affect you have on the landscape has a lasting effect and not just go back to a default state when you go far enough away or go in amd out a dungeon
>>341323023
You mean yourself? Because I sure as hell played that boring game.
Oh you mean the giant signs that tell you what item you need? Or those giant markers on the map to find the next dungeon? Or the fact that Hilda constantly tells you where you should be heading? Or those heavy handed hints thrown throughout the game?
So is this the inbetweenquel of OoT and WW that we were hoping for?
>>341323245
Because Zelda has none of that you fool. Zelda doesn't get a free pass. Everyone has been absolutely shitting on it because Nintendo can't be allowed to make good games anymore or their shitposting would be proven wrong.
Watch the demo or shut the fuck up about it. You'll just continue to get BTFO.
>>341323332
Why would rehashes be full of tutorials? And yes, Splatoon has tons of tips and tutorials, as does ALBW and Kirby.
Most of those games are incredibly simple and dumbed down too.
>>341323396
Marking the locations of dungeons on the map is a tutorial? I'm sorry, I thought we were actually talking about the words contained in your post.
>>341321317
How dare they take a game originally marketed towards kids with simple combat and not pander to my heaving 350+ lb desire to be superior
Why are Nintentoddlers such manchildren?
>>341323585
Splatoon has a tutorial when you first start up the game for the first time because you need to get the hang of gyro aiming and sensitivity first. It's too different from any other game for you to seamlessly get into it. After you pass the brief 5 minute tutorial on how to aim and climb walls properly, it's gone.
And no, tutorials aren't handholding. Stop using buzzwords.
>>341321317
>There hasn't been a single Zelda game with good combat.
Are you telling me a franchise with over 25 games dosen't have a single game with good combat? What the fuck?
>>341323709
You are not following the conversation. Not only do you omit the other points selectively like a true fanboy, you don't even follow what we were discussing. Handholding.
>>341323875
I'm likely more fit than you. Just saying like it is, I don't need to personally attack you to state facts about Zelda combat being anything other than monotonous and underwhelming.
>>341323968
He's shitposting. TP's biggest asset was the combat being good. Everything else about it was mediocre, granted.
WW also had decent combat. Being able to pick up enemy weapons was revolutionary at the time. Not to mention combat in ALttP was stellar, since there were so many different ways to attack enemies with varying effectiveness.
>>341324202
>>341317631
Is it actually confirmed there are no towns, or is this just some bullshit news people are spreading?
Man, some people really get triggered by people praising this game, don't they?
>>341323968
Nope, and they never really improved it either. It's often just button mashing and blocking. Or waggle with the last game.
>>341324315
Uhh, nope. TP has standard swings and mediocre movesets. You can find better melee in a Half Life combat mod.
>>341324371
It's confirmed that there are towns, they just didn't want to include them in the preview because apparently there's some unique mechanic tied to them they don't want to reveal yet.
>>341324202
You can be Lou Ferrigno for all I care. I'm comfortable knowing I'm not autistic enough to say a kids game isn't hard enough
Will I be able to find and romance waifus?
>>341318968
You mean like the fact that it doesn't exist?
>>341323968
Depends on what you mean by good, combat in zelda has always been simple pattern recognition, TP actually improved combat alot on the link side but the enemies sucked so it goes unnoticed, and SS gave you all these moves but you only ever needed to use the forward stab and finishing blow. WW had the best combat balance I guess of the 3d games. Zelda combat is pretty much the baseline or foundation, zeldas focus was always supposed to be in the puzzles or exploration anyway.
>>341320123
Revive as in get away from the story driven linear mess he turned Zelda into.
>I hate open world games and they're all the same!
Whatever you say dude.
>>341324443
You literally didn't play TP if you think it's just standard slashing and blocking.
>>341321317
Zelda's combat feels like watered down Dark Souls.
>>341324621
Where did I say it wasn't hard enough? I haven't even played. Ultimately, a game made with kids in mind will suffer on fundamental levels.
>>341318328
They're avoiding NPCs on purpose to not spoil.
>>341324820
>being this fucking stupid
>>341322481
>>341320123
>Comparing Witcher 3 to LoZ
I can smell you from here dude
>>341324994
Naw, Zelda has no punishment for excessive attacking or not dodging enough. It's very straightforward and basic.
>>341324926
I own Twilight Princess. The combat was braindead. It added maybe 3 new moves? from the N64 game that I recall, all of which just made it even more simple to dispatch an enemy.
>>341323345
Anon you have too sensible of an opinion to be on /v/
>>341317847TENTH ENEMY HAS THE BOMB
>>341320030
Hey man I will borrow you my copy of mgs 5, Assassins creed brotherhood and darksiders 2.
>>341317631
Nigga they've only shown one region
>>341317631
Ah like that Darksouls game am i right?
>>341325012
>I haven't even played
Then why are you here
>>341325219
You're right, the Witcher 3 is miles better.
>>341325248
>TP added 3 moves
You didn't play it. If you did play it you didn't explore at all.
>>341317847
It'd be better if they didn't speak. Voice acting eats up production time and limits what the characters can say and do.I'd say it also eats up budgets but I don't think that's a problem with Nintendo.
>>341320369
the handholding is either demo only or just until the you reach the first marker
because there haven't been popups since the first showcase which even had the time limit
>>341317631
>no villages
confirmed info?
>>341319668
Why do all games fucking suck?
>>341324994
How the hell do you even compare the two
>>341325484
Why are you fanboying over a game you haven't played?
>>341325248
>Naw, Zelda has no punishment for excessive attacking or not dodging enough.
*Modern Zelda
Fixed that. You were probably two young to have Iron Knuckles in the spirit temple take a third of your health because you went in for an attack and took too long to backflip out of there.
>>341323058
Outside of story shit, what of that is in Witcher 3?
>>341318594
what PS2 game uses phong shading with rimlight and Fresnel ranges?
>>341325616
I found all the training spots. It was shit.
>>341317631
>the shrines are anagrams of Nintendo staff
>the first one they visit in the demo is Aonuma
I like it.
>>341325768
>calls others young
>harkens back to OoT instead of Zelda 2.
>mfw every open world game now gets compared with Skyrim
>mfw any game with a focus on melee combat gets compared with Dark Souls
>>341325012
Lolwat, it has jackshit to do with being made for kids or not and it certainly has nothing to do with quality. Zelda combat is easy because its both simple, and merely basic pattern recognition and its a system everyone has played in one form or another as alot of games practically used OoT comba as a base and built from there because its a good system.
>>341325562
>>341325562
Actually that game blows and the only fans I've met are GameStop lurkers that look like they've worn the same shirt for weeks. Witcher 3 had worse combat than Adventure of Link
>>341317631
>Ugh this shit looks so souless, oh well I'm sure there will AT LEAST be big cities full of life and npcs to do sidequests for like majora's mask, right?
>no towns or villages
Deader than dead.
>>341326039
>Doesn't follow the conversation
>Brings up a game with a completely unrelated combat system
>>341326167
Hahaha nice delusion.
>>341325743
Because I've been a fan since OoT? Why are you shitting on a game that didn't even really show combat
>>341322481
>>341326213
How many fucking people are we going to have to link to this post because they couldn't be bothered to read the thread?
>>341326213
You faggots sure love shitposting instead of reading the fucking thread.
>>341322481
I really hope these bomb are just infinite in the demo for demonstration purposes
>>341326104
Its even worse when dark souls is clunky as fuck and in the case of DAS1 has shit hit detection.
>>341326328
Stay mad
>>341326431
I'm not a braindead retard so I'm smart enough to infere from that that there are no actual towns in the game, just dead ones because the theme of the game is post apocalyptic and nature taking over ruins of an ancient but highly developed society, but they didn't want to spoil that. Basically like dark souls, the only npcs you find are a few one scattered throughout the world.
Nice shilling though, don't spend those 5 cents in one place.
Game is empty and shit, face it.
>>341325729
>lock on
>block
>roll
>slash
>repeat
The Souls' series took direct inspiration from LoZ. If you don't see it then it must have been far too long since you've played a 3D LoZ game. Dark Souls does it far better though.
>>341326837
>completely ignore that its the tutorial area
>>341326837
Sure thing, anon!
>>341327014
>get btfo
>T-T-T-T-TTUTORIAL!!!!!!!
Ok? Does this mean anything? Are you saying we wont see ruins of towns in the desert and snow area?
It's in the fucking title you mongoloid, BREATH OF THE WILD, WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS MEANS?
Fucking nintenchildren and their critical thinking ability of a 5 year old.
OK so, even with all the stream footage out there today, how far do you think everyone got combined? 5%, 10%?
>>341326996
I'm actually looking at both boxes right now and their E and M ratings accordingly. Also, saying it took direct inspiration from literally one of the first 3D open world games is a bit unfair. That's like saying the iPhone was inspired by the old city block sized computers. Yeah no shit they have relation but they're hardly the same thing.
>>341327415
They said that completing those first four shrines gets you the parasail thing. The demo is basically the tutorial.
>>341327415
Got what? Seen the world?
I'd say 40-60%
>>341326837
>I'm not a braindead retard, I'm just illiterate
t. Sonycuck
>>341327313
>nintenchildren
come on man at least try
>>341327478
Like the other anon said its not so much inspiration as much as it is the functions from OoT became standard and nintendo just so happened to get it right the first time before anyone else came up with an abomination of a combat system.
>>341327617
Find a part of a stream that shows the whole map zoomed out. The whole thing is pretty fucking big
>>341327597
And that took what, 2-3 hours?
>>341327478
>he's fucking denying the fact the Souls games VERY OBVIOUSLY ARE EXTREMELY INSPIRED BY ZELDA
...
It's one of the few games that actually uses exact Z-targeting, let's start there.
>>341327708
Why would I try when you're clearly not even trying to use your brain?
>the title literally spells it out for you that the theme of the game is the wilderness taking over what was once his (nature taking over civilization)
>the producer of the game can't talk about towns because they're an important part of the story and doesn't want to spoil it (HINT NATURE TAKES OVER TOWNS AND TOWNS ARE ALL DESERTED RUINS)
>THERE ARE CLEARLY TOWNS YOU IDIOT!
Oh yeah can't wait to get a huge town teeming with life, interesting characters and sidequests like majora's mask, I'm sure that will totally happen.
Do you know why the zelda cycle is real? because of retards like you with stupid overblown expectations. When you get a shitty open world game with an empty story like MGS 5 don't come crying to me.
>>341327478
What do their ratings have to do with anything? The combat is incredibly similar and if you're going to say it isn't then you're just wrong. That's all there is to it. There are loads of other similarities between Souls and Zelda too but that's not even the point here.
>>341327617
Did you see when they opened the map? The E3 demo area was the smallest of maybe 10 or 12 provinces, and the map wasn't zoomed out all the way.
>>341328324
settle down ok?
>>341328324
Zelda wasnt always particularly heavy on story outside of TP and WW. OoT had a simple plot but it was executed well.
>>341328324
>>341328554
No, I want to hear more about this game he's designed in his head! My dead retard brain can't come up with shit like this on its own!
>>341317631
I'm not getting a good vibe from this game. Seems too much like a amalgamation of the last 2 years of popular game design meant to please as many people as possible instead of a Zelda game. And whoever decided to add Batman vision can go fuck themselves.
>>341328504
Post a picture you shit.
>>341317631
>RIO
What did he mean by this?
>>341328324
There must be people buying shit atleast, there's currency
>>341325813
Buzzwords don't mean shit when the end result is crap
Look at those trees. Look at how poor the lighting is on them with the bad shadowing.
>>341328758
The plant gathering is the only part that really bothered me.
>>341328758
There's dungeons and towns and mini holes/ shrines. And there are fresh items for puzzles and shit, like this thing were you stop time on an object but newtons 3rd law stays intact.
>>341323892
>remembering iwata
Damn anon, if that were a trailer reaction that would be one thing. But thats just edgy faggotry
Regardless of fanboying iwata was a cool guy and his death was sad
>>341328816
The stream is publicly available, anon.
>>341328930
KID
>>341328757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rPxiXXxftE
Look at the trailer.
what do you see? Never mind retard, not going to torture you by making you think for yourself, I'll spell it out for you:
>Game shows a lot of deserted ruins
>The master sword can be found abandoned and with rust growing over it
>The fucking title of the game
>the logo of the game shows a small plant growing over it (*WINK WINK* NATURE GROWING OVER MAN MADE THINGS *WINK WINK*)
So what did we learn today kid? That's right! The game will have a lot of towns full of people and life! Isn't thinking fun?
>>341327415
>no towns or cities shown because spoilers
How bad are they? I bet it reveals its post ww
Fucking blows though.
>>341328930
It's clearly calling link "KID."
Like "Good job lighting this fire, kid."
"Hey, that food's looking pretty good, kid."
Fire in video games should give more commentary.
>>341317631
Nintendo still makes games for the Wii? Huh. Fancy that.
>>341329675
It's still not quite clear anon. Maybe compile stills from the trailer in an image with the relevant evidence circled in red.
>>341329675
How BTFO'd are you going to be on release? Will you do your family a favor and blow your brains out?
>>341329675
Is this going to be the new FFXV-kun?
>>341330165
>that map size
>landmass to the left and right that still aren't explored
>>341330165
>>341330425
>>341329985
wait
both the forest and snow areas where on that little part of the map? BOTH OF THEM?
>>341328075
>>341328263
>>341328441
Let's all remember that someone was comparing the two.
>Ds1 does it better.
Yup a 20 year old game does worse in combat than the new one. Which was also my point about the ratings. Of course an E 20 years ago isn't going to have brutal backstabs and an efficient and tight combat mechanics. I never denied that it took inspiration, just that if that's all you got to compare it to, then you really haven't made much of a point.
>>341330165
I don't want to get my hopes too high. But the more I see, the more it reminds me of Red Dead Redemption in scope. And that's the last good 'open world' game I've played.
>>341329675
God, I hope you continue to post in threads for this game in the future. You're a fun one.
>>341328958
Name one PS2 game that even has fully dynamic lighting
>>341330265
I win no matter what.
>Game releases
>It's actually good
I'm anon so no one will remember that I said all this shit, or care, since no one knows who actually said it. I'll rnjoy the game and be grateful it didn't turn out as shit as I expected.
>Game releases
>It's shit
Surprise surprise. You on the other hand will be furious and you'll be thinking to yourself "should have listened to that anon... ITS NOT FAIR".
Either way you get cucked :^)
>>341317631
Is it me or it feels kinda post apocalyptic?
>>341330719
Hopefully you can turn off the hud.
>>341331152
>I win no matter what
Danth's Law bud.
>>341317631
>Hyrule has declined
>original timeline is Hyrule's decline
So is it confirmed yet that this is in the original timeline? After nearly 30 years of prequels and "what if" alternate timelines, are we finally getting a canon sequel?
>>341330165
Did they go to the forest of spirits? Name sounds cool
>>341331532
>I don't even have the brainpower to understand memes
I explained why I win, didn't just claim that I won because I said so (very much danth's law). Don't use memes you just found about without knowing their meaning kid.
>>341327617
>area stated to be less than 10% of the world
>we haven't even seen half the area
>le 40-60%
okay
>>341331624
Looks like it. It would be neat if the towns are the ones from Zelda 2.
>>341317847
>I AM ERROR
>>341319668
>Why are there so many people mad about Zelda?
Not mad, we just don't have nostalgia glasses and demand better gameplay. 3D zelda games haven't been a staple of the genre since OoT, there are other games who does it better.
> It legitimately was the best looking game at E3
Besides the long FoV, the graphics are bad
The Last Guardian looks better
Scalebound looks better
>No generic zombies
Having zombies o not, is not an indicative of a good or bad game, also, OoT had zombies, many other Zelda had zombies. Expect zombies.
>no dudebro EA shit
Yes, that's right. How is this good or bad?
>no 40%+ of the game is cutscenes
I appreciate a game trailer with no cutscenes. Yet, then, we got a stale and boring gameplay.
Fractured But Whole showed a more interesting gameplay
>no QTE's
False, there was Bullet Time with QTE
>no railroading, no handholding
How this is bad or good?
>no """emotional""" story telling.
I bet you creamed your pants when you heard Zelda, that moment was intentionally placed to make you feel emotions
>>341331346
Congratulations, you can take a fucking hint. Be proud, you're smarter than 80% of the posters in this thread thinking the game will have big towns and a lot of characters.
it looks bland and boring but okay
>>341331096
splinter cell pandora tomorrow
More like
>no content
>>341332365
Have you noticed that you're the only one in this thread saying "big towns and a lot of characters"? The interview with Iwata referred to villages. But sure, I guess you have to start putting words in peoples mouths now to prepare for damage control when you get BTFO'd.
>first Zelda
more like Worst Zelda
>wander around an empty overworld until you figure out what obscure bullshit you're supposed to do to get to the next dungeon
>>341331640
yeah if was the hunting/food tutorial bit
>>341330770
yes... the area shown in the demo is about 1% of the total map size
stream just confirmed towns
They just confirmed towns and villages
they jsut decided that the E3 demo would focus on everything else because they didnt want to spoil the story.
you just got blown the fuck out
>>341317631
>no towns or villages
They said quite a few times now, this is become it's the demo and they don't want to spoil anything.
>>341332927
Because in order for this game to NOT be shit, it needs big cities and lots of characters (like TW3). Otherwise it will be boring empty shit just like MGS V, so yes, the game needs big town of characters in order for the open world to work.
A couple of small shitty villages wont cut it. If there's not a big hyrule town with a lot of characters and sidequest (which it wont because pretty sure the main theme of the game is that hyrule is a deserted ruin, and the game likely takes place during the age of decline) then the game will be shit.
>>341333613
Yes, they don't want to spoil the story which is there are no big towns and populations, it's all deserted ruins.
>>341333931
You sound salty.
>>341334201
Why? I stopped caring about zelda after twilight princess so not really?
>>341334348
That made you sound even more salty.
>>341317631
I like how many things they clearly had some of the older 2D Zelda in mind when they created, as well as concepts taken from other games. There are clearly some elements from Dark Souls, Dragon's Dogma, Assassin's Creed, Shadow of the Colossus, etc. Fags will disagree (either deny that this is a good idea, or deny that they did it altogether) but I think it's actually brilliant. It shows how much effort they put into it; they clearly put so much thought into what makes this genre great and they're combining all the best things.
One of my biggest concerns was that there would be big, open, empty fields with no content. This can be a problem for these kinds of games. Think of how slowly you move in Fallout games and Skyrim, and how much time you spend just sitting there holding W or holding the stick forward, not actually doing anything fun. But Link moves rather fast from what we've seen and you're usually doing something meaningful. The world is huge, but there is little filler between content. I think that is one of most impressive things about this game.
I'm highly impressed by what I saw and this is my most anticipated game.
>>341333931
What's your point? This is what they said yes.
>>341334547
But salty about what is what I'm asking? That a game that I expect to be shit seems to be pointing out to be in fact shit?
>>341317631
>>341332682
>fake 3d transparent light ray models
>dynamic
learn to 3d you pleb
>>341333931
If that were true I can still see some positive possibilities. Like maybe there are a bunch of small settlements that, by the end of the game for story purposes, you get them to join together into bigger settlements, eventually populating Hyrule castle town again.
And it'd be cool if there were a post-game where all of the shops and things the settlements have to offer are all in one place and you're free to continue exploring and find everything.
>Emily rogers
>>341328816
>>341327617
the demo area is in the center of the overall world map
eat a bag of dicks
Aonuma promised there will be plenty of towns and NPCs in the final game. None shown here to avoid spoilers
>>341334348
Then why are you discussing Zelda? Are you retarded?
>>341334689
My point is open world games rely HEAVILY in story and characters to pull it out, see TW3. If you don't have that, then you just have a lot of microshit to do that gets eventually old, like MGS 5. Imagine if TW3 didn't have all these sidequests and characters as well as a lengthy story, instead the focus of the game is exploring and going to the "?"s in the map seeing what you find. That's it, that's basically what this game is based on what they have shown so far. The witcher 3 showed gameplay of geralt talking to npcs, doing sidequests and going to towns in E3, so why can't zelda? Hint: because there aren't any.
Even skyrim will probably end up being a better open world game than this. This game could have been great if it had a lot of characters, towns, sidequests, and shit to do. Think of it like all the sidequests in majoras mask or even skyward sword, except instead of taking place in a central hub, they take place all over the world in different cities and maybe even out in the wilderness as well, just think about it, it could have been great. Basically a bit similar to wind waker except way more characters, stories, and side quests.
What do they decide to do instead? Pick a post apocalyptic theme and fill the world with barren deserted ruins, with all the meat of the game going to "shitty dime a dozen dungeons and the couple of actual main dungeons that will probably be shit too because the open world forces them all to have simple puzzles where you don't need an specific item to complete it".
Lower your expectations, and I mean by a lot.
>>341330165
desert in the east
>>341336034
i guess that actually makes sense, you killed my hypewhich is probably a good thing
>>341336391
they're showing video on gliding out in the desert area?
>>341336391
>link's boots just clip through the ground
JUST
>>341336034
why do you think it's post-apoc and there will exist no towns or NPCs?
>>341336767
this surfing looks so fucking fun holy shit
>>341336863
it's snow, doofus
>>341336950
Watch the fucking trailer jesus
>>341336767
Not desert, I just think they're really high up.
>>341336034
dude , you are seeing this in the opposite way , teh fact that they didnt show any towns or NPCs is that because of how important they are to the story and dont want to spoil anything they didnt show it for this demo.
also they CONFIRMED theres towns and NPCs did you fucking missed that in the countless post in this fucking thread about that?
>>341337148
>green snow
>that absolutely awful color palette
JUST
>>341322412
>want a Zelda game about fighting tons of monsters
>get Hyrule Warriors
>want a Zelda like the first game with vast freedom and exploration and no worthless hand holding partners
>get it
I'm happy.
>>341334803
Dude stop talking out if your ass. It even holds the guineas world record for first game to feature fully dynamic lighting on the PS2 without pre-baking shaders into models.
You spout meaningless bullshit
>Fake 3d transparent light ray models
This literally has no meaning in lighting and shader models. Light ray models? What the fuck are you talking about? Specular and normal maps?
>>341337429
You don't know anything about colors, right? Might be time to learn some color theory, anon.
>>341322412
You sound like a real joy to be around.
>>341337395
Or
Prepare to have your mind blown
What little story and characters there are is so fucking small and jarring that if they showed it then there would be nothing left in the main game to look forward to.
Again, TW3 showed towns, npcs, and sidequests during the E3, why? Because they knew what they showed wasn't even 2% of all the dialogue and story in the game. If they wont show even ONE fucking town or npc, it's for a very good (bad for you) reason.
>>341337837
Witcher 3 is a story heavy, dialogue driven RPG
Zelda has never been even remotely similar to that
>>341336034
This: >>341337395
This is a demo which has removed towns/cities + is probably based on a beta as most demos are, and you're already mad because you think it will be focused on "exploration". See, even if there aren't any big cities, there will probably be settlements and towns, and really that's enough if done well. We just can't pretend to know yet if they're going to pull it off or not.
>>341338065
We are getting closer!
One pulled out the open world design well, the other will be a complete barebones disaster.
Can you guess which one is which?
>>341337837
yeah but that is a big IF.
You are comparing to another game from a different company, Just because that formula worked doesn't mean is the only one for the same genre of games.
>>341321886
except microsoft and sony both had new IPs this time, nintendo had ONE game and it was another sequel. The game itself is just skyrim with rock climbing and less shit in it.
>>341317631
stop spreading shit OP you fucking faggot
>>341332227
Why do you classify the gameplay as "stale and boring?" Legitimately curious to hear your thoughts. Haven't watched all the demo footage yet, but 3D Zelda has always had kinda meh battle gameplay and puzzles (OT, MM, and Wind Waker compensated for this with charm and overall solid-enough level design, TP sucked ass, and SS improved on all of this but had too many clunky features to really succeed), it seemed like from what I saw that they'd freshened up the fighting mechanics and made items much more interactive/useful to the general world, improving most of the flaws the series had been accruing.
>>341317631
>no towns
>no NPCs
>no partners
>just action adventure and dungeons
Someone explain to me how this is a bad thing
>>341336034
The original Zelda was an open world apocalyptic wasteland, seems like people agree it succeeded
He confirmed there will be towns, NPCs, etc. They're just not revealing anything like that for this E3 preview because they want to focus on gameplay and also do not want to spoil anything.
"Of course there will be, this is Zelda after all."
Stop spreading shit mongols.
>>341319668
Probably because it's Nintendo exclusive
See: Every other exclusive that's good
>>341338431
>except microsoft and sony both had new IPs this time
New IP doesn't mean fresh gameplay.
>>341317631
>>341318683
Pretty sure they mentioned somewhere that there are towns and villages, but aren't showing them due to story spoiling, anon.
>>341339013
Yes because standards are the same they were in the 80s.
Can't wait to explore a barren land with a barebones story attached to it, nintendo is saved.
ITT: People hating on a game because its not similar to other games from the same genre.
It's like hating battlefield because it not similar enough to call of duty.
>game doesn't even have a fucking partner
>people actually falling for the jewtendo excuse of "w-we don't want to spoil"
>some people ACTUALLY expecting big towns and a lot of characters and not just a couple of paper thin characters like the first zelda randomly spread around the world, hence the reason why they actually care about not spoiling them because that would take away the only depth the game has
>people not expecting this to be a barebones generic open world filled to the brim with filler and the actual important content being just a few hours long
>nintendo will pass it off as "i-it's a spiritual successor to the original zelda"
Boy oh boy are people going to be fucking furious, but you deserve it. Everyone hated skyward sword and that game at least had a decent hub city full of people and sidequests, this is not even going to have that.
The zelda cycle will never die.
>>341339885
Skyrim sold pretty well, anon, and that's an empty barren wasteland with no real story.
Zelda's going to blow that shit out of the water with actual combat, mountains you can climb instead of gliding up the geometry, and cooking/crafting that actually matters/works.
Combine that with the genuinely interesting plot hook of "What the fuck are those thing? Who the fuck were the Sheikah, really? WHY IS LINK CLIMBING OUT OF A STASIS POD AND GRABBING HIS SHEIKAH SLATE S4!? WHAAAAAT?" instead of "Dragons."
>>341340648
Are you from that irc that dedicates their time to shitposting and always uses anime images?
>>341339885
I'm just saying, the company that made the original open world apocalyptic wasteland is behind this game. That's a lotta pressure. I'd like to think they won't fuck it up.
They've already got unique enemies/random encounters and foraging to compensate for the openness. Nintendo isn't dumb and has been learning from its mistakes the past few Zeldas, and it seems like this game addresses every fault I ever saw in 3D Zelda.
Of course, I won't know until I actually play it, and I respect you for toning down the hype and being cynical about it, honestly. That's a safe way to approach these blockbusters. Still, objectively speaking, I have yet to see something that would suggest this is going to be the trainwreck that Skyward or Twilight were.
>>341340839
Skyrim will look like a masterpiece compared to this, you don't even understand. Do you think you're going to find ANYTHING even NEAR the level of the thieves guild questline in this new zelda? Boy oh boy, are you in for fucking disappointment. Skyrim might have been shit, but it still had a few interesting quests and characters. This zelda will have nothing even close to that, the japanese just don't know how to do open world right.
You're in for a new level of soul crushing disappointment if you actually believe this game will have a better open world than skyrim (which really says more about how shitty zelda will be than how good skyrim is).
>>341340936
You just described 90% of /v/
Seriously though...
>All these faggots desperately trying to kill the hype
>IT'S GOING TO BE BAD! IT'S GOING TO BE BAD!
>W-WHY WON'T YOU FALL FOR MY BAIT, ANON? STOP BEING EXCITED RIGHT NOW!!
>not a single fuck given
I'm hyped. There's nothing you Anti-Nintendo Sonyshit legions can do that will cut through the raw anticipation I feel right now.
Stay gold, Sonyboys.
>>341317631
LoZ was good because of the fights and puzzles, not because of the autistic stuff added to sell guide books.
>>341341684
>LoZ was good because of the fights
okay anon
>>341341504
>being so deluded by your pathological NEED for Zelda to flop that you're willing to defend Skyrim's writing
>Defending Guild questline "You just showed up but here's the Boss Pants," writing of all things
You're better than this, anon.
>>341341504
SKyrim didn't have enough puzzles, these shrines look really good and its random generated bullshit like skyrim and you can actually miss a bunch of them if you dont explore enough.
I'm kind of split on this new Zelda game. It looks good, bad, and mediocre at the same time.
>Good
The shrines look cool
The dungeons will probably look cool
Just giving you a bow means the actual dungeon items will probably be more interesting
>Bad
Stupid open world crap. The world is too big and empty
Inventory management
Weapon durability
You can climb almost any wall. This is a cop out so they wouldn't have to actually put thought into the game world.
Item farming by cutting down trees and picking up plants
Almost all of the chests shown just have crafting materials in them
>Mediocre
The combat
Finding equipment upgrades every 10 minutes, many duplicate items
Overall, I'm feeling very "meh" about it.
How will Nintendo recover from this absolute garbage game and failure of a new Zelda?
