Are videogames a middle-low class hobby?
Or does it attract high income people and highly educated minds?
pirates not allowed itt
Maybe
source: my ass
>>34126XXXX
>Some of my less fortunate friends that I linked this thread to said they couldn't find my posts.
We're 600 posts into this thread, but you can't see the replies unless you have a 4chan Platinum™ account.
>>341261802
no. video games are pretty lowest common denominator, desu senpai
and I say this as someone who just wasted like two days of my life replaying KOTOR this weekend instead of writing like I wanted to.
it's just really rapid, effective stimulation that's much more fun, in the moment, than something like reading, or cinema, or what have you. it doesn't take much for a videogame to entertain you.
>>341261802
>technically in high income tax bracket
>still pirate all my games
>>341262825
Disgusting
>>341262391
This
>>341261802
>educated
Get /pol/ in here.
That said I have no idea whom video games most attract. But I will say most games are probably better for your mind than Hollywood movies or television. Though to be fair that isn't saying much.
>>341262825
get it together man
video games now are for people with nothing better they'd rather be doing (having sex with women, working in important careers that change the world, raising the future in the form of your two kids, discussing complex ideas about the real world to colleagues).
Video games saved us because having kids and working are both mistakes and we can finally end humanity with vidya, I'd like it no other way.
>>341261802
Whats a high class hobby? Golf, Tennis, Polo?
>>341261802
I can't speak for high income people, but I'm surrounded by folks with Masters and PHDs in Physics CS and CompE, and it seems like it's the same for all of us, even those who used to play slowly stopped, in the very little time available there are just better things to do, like hanging out with friends, reading a good book, or some sort of physical activity like hiking or jogging.
My pc for example is 8 years ago so it can't even run most modern games but I don't feel like I'm missing something, games don't attract me like they used to.
>>341261802
>>341263138
Reading scientific journals > Reading novels > playing vidya > watching TV > reading fanfiction
>>341263320
What brings you here to /v/?
>>341263457
>tfw this will never happen to me
>tfw we get old and go into oldfolks homes still playing vidya
>tfw our retirement is attending a large LAN party for the rest of our lives
>>341263320
>games don't attract me like they used to
No one over the age of 20 should feel the same videogames attraction he felt at the age of 10 t-b-h
>>341262989
>paying money for video games
ha ha, are you kidding me? Maybe for little kids, but rich adults like to have expensive hobbies, like driving sports cars, boating, world travel, and fucking mexican house maids.
>>341263916
Certain games will attract incredible minds, especially ones which involve competition or something they can stroke their ego with
>>341264193
Didn't mean to quote
>>341261802
Video games are for degenerates who use it to fill their empty lives
>>341263457
Fuck man, this is happening to me right now.
Most of my friends are either married/having a career. All my exs are married. I feel so left behind, and its all my fault
>>341263916
>I'd actually buy a good game
>nothing good has been made since 2007
>>341263821
I still like to follow the gaming news, well that, and the reason people watch the kardashians- console wars, card wars, false flagging and constant nagging are very entertaining in a cheap sort of way, it's like a zoo in here.
>>341264314
Agree. Basically alcohol tier.
If I ever get to procreate I'll make sure my kids never play this shit and just play sports and study instead
>>341263252
>YIFY
I usually avoud those guys because the audio encoding sucks. Literally everytime it's a quiet scene I have to jack my volume up by 20 just to understand what they're saying.
>>341264314
Can't argue with that. It's maddening that there are aspects to my life that can be improved and skills that can be sharpened but I'm just killing time here or on a game
>>341263138
BEST GIRL
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>failing at life
>can only blame yourself
>escape this by participating in dumb console wars
>>341263884
that sounds fucking sick desu
>>341262681
>video games are pretty lowest common denominator
this
>>341261802
Pirates are middle-low class. Why disclude them?
>>341263320
>tfw chemistry PhD candidate
>tfw high end gaming PC with absurd stipend money
>tfw never use it
Feels bad man
>tfw only thing I ever liked were video games
>tfw they're all shit now
>tfw my hobby just fucking died and now I have to go back to actually living life
Studying and having a job are infinitely worse than playing video games, and that's awful.
>>341267160
That's not true senpai. I come from a rich family and pirate games on principle, unless they are something that I really, really like or have interesting multiplayer. I just don't see me actually spending money on something as useless as a videogame unless it's incredible.
As for the OP's question, it depends. Games for you are what you make them out to be. There are plenty of games that can offer intellectual stimulation and I know a lot of intelligent people who enjoy at least some of them. But if you're over 20 and still playing shit like platformers, FPS, western RPGs? Yeah, you're wasting your life.
Games unfortunately do not fully utilise their potential of being a medium with extremely high degree of player involvement and decision making. Games should aspire to be like Pathologic, not like le banjo kazooie
>>341264339
Don't worry anon, literally no one in the entire world is happy, we just keep ourselves busy while we pretend death isn't the only constant of existence.
>>341261802
yes, it is the ultimate middle-low class time waster
poor people can't afford videogames so they have fun dindun nuffin
the high middle class is too busy with the rat race, working, studying, working out, they have no time for videogames because they choose hobbies that help them network with the rich instead (if you are not doing this you'll lose economic status over your lifetime)
rich people can afford the real experiences so they have no reason to simulate them in videogames
low-middle class have no real perspective of economic mobility so they waste their time on whatever they want, to the youth it's videogames, to moms it's facebook games, etc.
>>341267975
>FPS
What? That's competitive clicking, it's pretty much the equivalent of playing some basketball with friends.
Video games are a waste of time that doesn't hide the fact it's a waste of time. Most rich people just do drugs, which are pretty much video games but better.
>>341268064
but, let me put it this way:
If you ended up alone, would you rather have experience from real world or from video games?
The time you expend on both are the same. why not make yourself a better person?
I think that the only way to be happy is to be able to fully trust yourself, and to do that, you need knowledge.
>>341261802
As someone that made ~$500 today sitting on my ass....
I still pirate games.
>>341268314
I might have not been specific enough in my post. Yes, anon, they are equivalent of playing basketball with friends. Which is a good thing. In fact, games that allow it have much more value than a similar singleplayer-only game precisely because they are a socialisation platform.
>>341263320
Physics and EE masters here. I'm probably in the high range. Your statement for the most part is true but it depends on the person, their workday schedule, priorities.
I agree that on weekdays I generally don't play games. But I enjoy longer gaming sessions in weekends especially on days with poor weather.
>>341264339
Hi.
I'm 27, married, no children but she constantly talks about it. I got my degree a couple of years ago and I'm a mental health councillor. It's a good career, pay is alright and generally people respect you.I would give anything for the chance to put bin bags over the windows and live in a single room playing videogames and fapping to hentai
>>341268626
This, socialising while on drugs and sex whilst on drugs are amazing. Much better highs than videogames. Competitive videogames are tiny highs (when you win only) for fucking losers who can't achieve socially or in business
This is why I just play fun games like EDF where I don't have to spend hours of my life researching the glitches of the game to beat fat fuck sad sack who is my opponent. In real life, I beat people like that effortlessly
>>341269371
>mental health counsellor
>is mentally ill and longs for an unhealthy retard lifestyle
What a twist
>>341269508
>drugs
Absolutely degenerate
>>341269932
>Quentin
Is it 2013 again? Is he dead yet?I miss the fucker
>>341269932
>degenerate
Ah, the loser and his obsession with purity while he sits unwashed, masturbating to anime porn and doing nothing but play videogames and shitpost
>>341268695
Video games are pretty much a "fake" experience, since pretty much none of it can be applied anywhere else, but I don't really think it invalidates them. I can regret meeting up with people just as much as playing a shitty multiplayer game, since both can sometimes just be a fucking waste of time.
Being a better person is a pretty good goal, and I do regret a lot of the time I spent on video games (played a lot of WoW back in vanilla/tbc/wotlk), but on the other hand, even though all of that time could have been better spent elsewhere, it doesn't mean that I wouldn't find a way to waste it anyway.
What I'm trying to say is that very few things we do are actually meaningful. You can change someones life with a few words if the stars are aligned, but you could also waste 5 years studying for a worthless degree if you choose poorly. You can pad your life with knowledge and success, or you can pad it with video games. There's no real guarantee that either will pay off, so you just do whatever makes you feel less guilty.
I know I'm gonna die without accomplishing anything meaningful because I'm a piece of shit, and at 26yo I have no skills, and my life is basically over at this point, but that doesn't bother me because I know I've helped other people (a few friends with depression) and that gave my life at least some meaning.
Just do whatever you like andHope Dawn of War III isn't gonna be a fucking piece of shit because holy fuck I'm gonna be so mad if it flops
>>341269646
it's quite a twist but I've noticed lots of the people who seem to go into psychology/social services seem to be initially looking to figure out what the fuck is wrong with them.
>>341269508
Drugs are pretty great if you're not a dipshit and abuse them so much you become addicted. Pretty much all of the smartest and most accomplished people I know actually do drugs, and that's because it's objectively the most fun thing you can possibly do.
Playing video games while high/drunk is pretty fun though, especially with friends
>>341270323
Please refrain from posting, you are making a fool of yourself.
>>341270859
>stoner
I do cocaine
>>341270369
Not the guy you replied to, but you're alright, anon. I wish you happiness.
>>341271461
That doesn't make you as badass as you think it does.
Damn, this thread is making me feel like shit for buying overwatch today
Am I really a loser?
How old is too old to play vidya?
I'm 20, and everyday after work I just get stoned and play video games and touch my penis
>>341264339
>dodges a bullet
>feels left behind
Idiots like you deserve a nagging wife and 3 children that break every console/pc you ever buy.
>>341262825
>>341263916
>having no standards
"No really, every game ever is shitty!"
>[no argument provided]
>>341261802
>>341262681
>>341263138
Actually specific vidya genres (e.g., action) improves a lot of really helpful attributes just as well as courses/media designed for that, including better attention allocation, higher spatial resolution in visual processing, and enhanced mental rotation abilities.. not to mention helping develop a competence identity, positive emotions, and other social benefits.http://www.forbes.com/sites/jordanshapiro/2013/11/27/4-reasons-video-games-are-good-for-your-health-according-to-american-psychological-association/
>>341278619
improve*
Dunno, Musk and Snoop play games.
I'm pretty sure rich kids play too, though they probably stop before ~25.
>>341262681
>it's just really rapid, effective stimulation that's much more fun, in the moment, than something like reading, or cinema, or what have you
It's also much more rewarding in the long run if you decide to put your all into a game instead of passively absorbing shit like you would with any other medium
>>341261802
Elon musk has publicly said he likes the vidya. /thread demolished
Vidya is good imagination fuel for coming up with dank hi-tech products. R&D director asks how do you come up with these products? Say I'm just skilled. B)
>>341261802
>pirates not allowed itt
way to invalidate your thread
