Do you think the new Quake will be good?
Quake was the only good Quake anyway, and it was good tech + blind luck to design it.
>>341252972
it'll be better than nothing
RANGER
VISOR
SOMEBLUEHAIREDCHICK
>>341252972
I'm sad to see that every FPS from now on is going to be a TF2 clone thanks to overwatch. As long as it is not objective based then I think it will be good
>>341253203
I'm actually kinda disappointed they seem to be basing it on Q3. It was, is, the best competitive FPS, but after D44M I was hoping they'd sorta remake the original Quake too. With single player campaign and stuff. I liked it much more than the Stroggs.
>>341253121
>Quake
>Good
It looks like literal shit, and I don't mean technology wise.
>>341254739
>>341254739
First Quake is a pretty neat and original game. "Hey negro, go and kill Shub-niggurath", you don't need to know more.
>>341252972
it's going to be casualized console shit and everyone is going to spit chips
>>341253589
Hell of a lot better than COD shit, it's the right direction.
>>341256101
It's PC exclusive you dip
>>341256101
It's not even a console release.
Quake Champions is a PC exclusive.
>>341252972
QUAKE
QUAKE
QUAKE
QUAKE
>>341253589
There's nothing wrong with TF2.It's the best competitive FPS since Q3 along with T:A.
I'm more afraid that it'll be an Overwatch clones, where every character has their own exclusive weapons and abilities on cooldown. And the trailer shows something like that.
>>341256280
Even cod has turned into shitty champion shit with free kill shit like overwatch instead of everyone being equal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy8S_xtDlhQ
13 years ago.
You can never go back.
Those days are gone.
Gaming will never be as fun.
>>341258203
>tfw never got to play Quake 3
>Not going to blow 19 bucks on it now because it's dead
It hurts, anon.
>>341258858
Quake Live costs 10 bucks or less and it's where the Quake 3 community is now. It's a rebalanced Quake 3 (mostly for the better) and it's cheaper than Quake 3.
>>341253203
Looks more like Gorre than Visor Famillolimi
>>341260593
It's just a reskin.
I hope Uriel is in NuQuake.
Quake deserved a new game like Doom and Wolfenstien, not a class based shooter.
>>341258203
>that soundtrack
no. just no.
superior:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY3LZ6Wh0yM
>>341261073
After ETQW and Quake 4 theres no going back the series will be dead.
>>341252972
>competitive class based multiplayer
No.
>people complaining about classes just because of shillerwatch
Nothing wrong with the genre, see Dirty Bomb for an example of a modern class based shooter with a huge potential for people with great aim to rise above everyone else like how you'd expect in a shooter.
>>341262617
Dirty Bomb for an example of a modern class based shooter being shit and full of greedy microtransactions.
>>341262879
>full of greedy microtransactions
Why would you even care about "microtransactions" in a game where you can unlock everything you want within 2 months or so? There's literally no reason to spend a dime to unlock anything since you get new missions every 3 hours.
>>341263132
Why would you even play a class based shooter if you need 2 months or so to unlock all of them?
>>341263749
For an F2P model it's pretty good compared to something like LoL or Hearthstone where you'd take a year+ to get even half of the content. It's basically get a new class -> learn to play them during a week or so -> buy a new one and repeat.
But regardless, I'm talking about actual gameplay, it's a game where even with the weaker classes, if you have good FPS skills you can still dominate everyone else fairly consistently, and this is what I expect from the new Quake. Class variety for good team work and alternate playstyles, but a large skill cap so that people with good movement, timing and aim can outshine others.
>>341264234
For an F2P model it's pretty bad compared to something like Dota, RtcW:ET or QL.
And lets not start with the gameplay.
>>341264689
>RtcW:ET or QL
Are you retarded? Those games are free, not free to play.
>>341254739
They dont want to take risks so they just went for the easy target q3
>>341261806
There's literally nothing wrong with Quake 4.
>>341264814
>free games aren't F2P games
Just because they aren't full shitty and greedy microtransactions?
Are you seriously asking others if they are retarded?
>>341265314
"Free to play" is the name of a business model moron. As the name implies, you don't have to pay in order to play the game, but there can be content which can be purchased.
>>341265559
So, you are a retard that fell for the jews trap and defend them. Ok, good to know you are mentally handicapped.
That aside, Dirty Bomb could be a good game if they used the Dota2 business model, but is already too late to switch.
>quake
>classes
Unfortunately quake will be mediocre at best just like doom was. What hurts worse is that prey was ruined.
Will Defrag return in 'new'?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAVsJI2PCiM
It will be Cuckwatch with le epic wide space marines, so no.
>>341252972
>another class based arena shooter
nah i cant even stand overwatch anymore.
i just want something new and different.
it hurts me that they chose quake for this.
It won't be phenomenal but I wouldn't say it would be bad either.
Hey, it's better than nothing right?
>>341254739
>but after D44M I was hoping they'd sorta remake the original Quake too
fuck you
anyone who says this cant recognize what the qualities of the original doom or quake actually were
new doom WAS NOT GOOD JUST BECAUSE /V/ HAS GIVEN IT A PASS BTW. STOP PARROTING. GAME SUCKS.
go play fucking quake 1 its 10 times as exciting as new doom and youve clearly never actually experienced the gameplay if you want them to ruin quake1 too.
>>341265812
How is it a particularly bad business model? It takes literally nothing but playing the game to unlock shit, and it's not like it even makes a difference before you have a decent amount of unlocks since you're still learning the game anyway.
>muh Dota 2
They already start with a huge playerbase by default so they can count exclusively on "whales" to cash in. I fail to see how taking about 5 days playing a couple of hours each to unlock a class is a particularly bad business model for a lesser known title. Think of any F2P game that requires either grinding or paying to skip, they all have much more unreasonable requirements like Warface, S4 League, Hearthstone and so on.
>>341266252
>it hurts me that they chose quake for this.
FREE brand recognition, dude.
>>341266343
>Hey, it's better than nothing right?
Again, people won't be mad if the release "Totally not another mix of TF2 and an ASSFAGGOTS: the new franchise" instead of "Quake".
>>341265946
>>341262617
what are
>scout
>doubler
>guard
Q3:A had classes since team arena
>>341260240
>It's a rebalanced Quake 3 (mostly for the better)
spoken like a true person who never played quake3.
it's rebalanced to take the skill out of the game and make it playable for scrubs who would have otherwise quit when they got turned to dust. LOL.
quake live is not quake 3, it is a ruined thing that apes quake3. it is NOT q3.
>>341252972
I'm really really interested to know where that old lady got that dank shirt.
>>341266664
>since team arena
Team Arena had max of about 200 players on launch and then cratered to 20-30 for the rest of its existence. It definitively failed.
And no, runes aren't classes. They're runes bro.
>>341266030
no :(
>>341266538
>How is it a particularly bad business model?
Do I really need to explain why a class based game with locked classes is bad? For real?
>They already start with a huge playerbase by default
Yeah, guess nobody knew about Splash Damage before Dirty Bomb.
Be sincere, you born after the 2000, right?
ITS A FUCKING CLASS BASED SHOOTER
STOP HYPING UP SHIT THAT DOESNT NEED TO BE CHANGED
>>341267078
>there won't be normal FFA and CTF modes
oh, kids.
>>341266665
>it's rebalanced to take the skill out of the game
how so?
>>341267413
Not him, but basically it boils to "muh railgun" or "muh railgun damage mothafucka!".
>>341266501
>Adventures of bullet sponges in close quarters
Have YOU played Quake 1 recently? It's singleplayer isn't very good.
>>341267682
this, quake's SP gameplay is utter shit compared to doom
>>341266968
>Do I really need to explain why a class based game with locked classes is bad? For real?
Yes? F2P isn't a bad model if it's not unreasonable in grinding requirements. I actually prefer a good F2P game, rare as they are, because by definition they require constant updates to keep the community interested. You're just an unopinionated moron jumping on the bandwagon that assumes that unlocks = EVIL without putting some thought into it.
>nobody knew about Splash Damage before Dirty Bomb
They are pretty irrelevant even now. ET was a mere cult classic and most of the people who worked on it aren't even in SD anymore.
And regardless all of this deviates from the point that class based shooters are now only being hated in here because of one hyped up flavor of the month title, there have been plenty of great class shooters and I don't see why the new Quake doesn't have potential, at worst if it sucks the Quake franchise can finally be buried.
>>341267682
>bullet sponges
>close quarters
LOL YOU'RE THAT SAME GUY FROM /VR/ WHO SAID QUAKE LEVELS AREN'T BIG ENOUGH TO BE FAIR
AND GOT LAUGHED OUT OF THE THREAD
HAHAHAHHA
yeah "bullet sponges" mhmm aka "enemies having health"
look kids some of you need to just take it on the nose and understand that *YOU ARENT GOOD ENOUGH AT FPS TO PLAY QUAKE*
you dicksuck doom because the game fucking aims for you LOL
>>341267791
>painkiller with gimmicks
You have shit taste.
NO BONES NO BUY
GIVE ME MY SKELETON
>>341268215
you know what fucking iteration of doom i meant you fucking faggot nigger fuck you bethesda
>>341266665
>it's rebalanced to take the skill out of the game
Other than autohop name one thing.
>playable for scrubs who would have otherwise quit when they got turned to dust
You still go 0/20 when you start playing the game. The spawn system since that's the biggest change I'm aware of. Spawnkills have always been the biggest weakness of arena shooters. QL is a step up from Q3 for this aspect alone. Of course eliminating spawn kills entirely would be better. Things like "the Cure spawn" shouldn't exist.
>>341267578
Oh, right. He might also be bitter about not getting to one-shot a starting stack player with the "skillful" point and click once weapon.
>>341268092
Calm down already, kid. I don't even visit /vr/.
>you dicksuck doom because the game fucking aims for you LOL
Quake also has autoaim, you know,
>>341252972
No, I think it will be some kind of Shadowrun (360) and flop
Maybe in storymode lol
>mfw consolecucks will never ever get Quake Champions
>>341268092
quake is shit, suck my dick
>>341268463
>Quake also has autoaim, you know,
actually it doesn't.
>>341268610
They probably will because Bethesda always lies. Of course strafejumping will be removed, and probably patched out of the PC version for MUH PARITY.
>>341268810
It does have vertical autoaim on by default.
>>341268341
>Bethesda
???
>>341268092
>you dicksuck doom because the game fucking aims for you LOL
I recall quake having autoaim by default as well.
>>341268956
Actually it doesn't. That's Doom. Quake has no autoaim, but you wouldn't know this because the "bullet sponge" enemies are too tough for you, aka you can't beat e1m2 without dying to the fiend
>>341269030
>>341268956
It does not. It does however have vertical mlook disabled by default. Requiring you to use keyboardlook.
>>341269030
You can recall it all you want, it does not have it and never did. Not "vertical only" autoaim, no autoaim of any sort was ever in quake. Ever.
>>341269145
https://quakewiki.org/wiki/Sv_aim
Did you even play Quake?
>>341268610
>wanting to play Quake Overwatch edition
>>341266838
>a powerup wich you can only have one of a time, that changes your role and playstile completely and that is right at the spawn in your base and not possible to pic up by enemy's
>not a class
anyway these maps are back in Quake Live and they are sometimes played.
>>341269145
>>341269248
>>341269253
http://neogeographica.com/site/pages/guides/owners_manual.html
>Some engines (Fitzquake Mark V, DirectQ, Engoo, ProQuake, and the original Quake engines) enable some degree of vertical auto-aim by default.
retard
>>341269253
http://quakeone.com/forums/quake-talk/single-player/4537-auto-aim.html
How old are you exactly?
>>341269451
IF YOU HAVE MOUSELOOK TURNED OFF
DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>Do you think the new Quake will be good?
I want to say no.
But nobody thought Doom could end up decent either.
>FPS discussion degenerates into a semantics discussion
Never change, /v/.
>>341269496
>a forum post proves quake has auto aim
you can go test it, quake under normal circumstances does not have auto aim. he had to have turned it on himself
it's funny how i, someone who owned the game when it came out, am arguing with teenagers who haven't played it because they can only handle doom and think quake is "bullet sponge enemies"
>>341269613
>Quake NEVER EVER EVER had any form of autoaim
>I MEANT WITH MOUSELOOK ON HAHA IDIOT I'M NOT 12 YEARS OLD
>>341269145
>>341269248
>>341269253
Pretty sure it had autoaim by default, I recall having to toss a sv command into autoexec.cfg to disable it.
After doing a quick search through Google I find shit like this:
http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=835006
>>341269782
>playing FPS without a mouse
Doom had mouse support. What was your excuse for playing Quake without a mouse?
>>341269782
why would you ever play quake with mouselook off? yeah it probably behaves like doom in that situation for keyboard play
but why would you ever play quake with mouselook off?
>>341269861
not relevant unless mouselook is off
>>341270082
Not really sure about that detail quite frankly, but I believe it also had it even with mlook on, I remember it being really annoying because of that so I always ended up disabling it.
I don't have a vanilla quake install around to test it.
>>341269741
>Ogres, the most common enemies, take 4 shotgun shots to kill
>Imps take 1 well-aimed shot
No bullet sponges here at all. Listen, there's a reason why Quake singleplayer wasn't popular. That's because its mechanics work way better with multiplayer, longer TTK included.
>>341270637
>Quake singleplayer wasn't popular
>>341270623
I do have a vanilla quake install around in fact I play quake all the time. Nothing auto-aims with mlook on. You can shoot right under an enemy and shoot the wall, not the enemy.
>>341270637
wow, 4 whole shotgun shots. You realize the shotgun is the starting weapon, right? The doom shotgun is worth about 4 quake shotgun blasts, dumbass.
>Listen, there's a reason why Quake singleplayer wasn't popular.
Quake single player was extremely popular and still is. The modding and mapping community was passionate unlike anything you've ever known. New high quality level packs are coming out and being played by tons of people.
It's not as popular as Doom *here* because you are all young and don't have any FPS skill. Quake is harder to play and you obviously don't have the skills for it. You are about ready for a two-axis game that aims for you half the time, or something like overwatch or COD where you press buttons to get kills.
"Bullet sponge" lol aka enemies have health.
>>341271215
>You realize the shotgun is the starting weapon, right?
Yes, that's why I listed SSG shots as normal shotgun is worthless. I thought you'd have known that already since you """owned""" Quake """since release""".
>The modding and mapping community was passionate unlike anything you've ever known
Unlike Doom or Half-Life?
>>341271215
>I do have a vanilla quake install around in fact I play quake all the time. Nothing auto-aims with mlook on. You can shoot right under an enemy and shoot the wall, not the enemy.
Seems weird really, I distinctly recall needing an autoexec for everything to work as I liked, including autoaim disable.
Let me check by myself, downloading a quake ISO, I was meaning to replay it soon anyways.
>>341271695
>I thought you'd have known that
Oh, I figured you were simply wrong since you can't handle playing the game.
>Unlike Doom or Half-Life?
Yes, unlike doom or half-life. Far, far more passionate than both of them. Quake was the birth of modding and internet gaming communities. You really don't understand the significance of it? Why doesn't that surprise me? :))
Hilariously, I bet you think Doom modding was 1/10 as big as Quake modding, when Quake debuted at the same time people were starting to get on the internet all over the world.
hint: it wasn't
I can tell you more things that happened before you were born if you want. But no, there's never been any online community nearly as passionate as quakes.
>>341268239
there is no proof there is no bones
just hand over the klesk and noone gets hurt
>>341266501
>new doom WAS NOT GOOD JUST BECAUSE /V/ HAS GIVEN IT A PASS BTW. STOP PARROTING. GAME SUCKS.
>this game WAS NOT GOOD BECAUSE PEOPLE ENJOYED IT. THE GAME IS BAD BECAUSE I DIDN'T.
whuuut
>>341272174
lol quake is bad dude just give it up
>>341266501
Calm down, autismo.
NuDoom was fun.
>>341272293
yes exactly other peoples opinions are bad and dont matter
>>341272474
>I can't get through the levels without auto-saving on normal :(
>>341272759
>It's shit because I say so
>You're all kids
>You all have no skill
You know, your arguments sure do remind of what an insecure 14 year old kid would use.
>tfw no one else in the thread remembers going on polycount.com to download the latest new player models for quake 2 and quake 3
>tfw flying around q2dm1 the edge as a terminator from wh40k gibbing people
>tfw all of a sudden u see someone else playing as a hive tyrant
these feels will never happen again. feels bad man
>>341266501
I swear it's this same cunt in every fucking thread. Take your opinions, and stick them Fair up your ass.
>>341272940
i'm not really worried about my arguments let's talk about the reality that you can't beat quake on normal because the enemies have too much health for you (ie you can't avoid getting hit by things because you can't aim and move at the same time)
>>341266818
Her grandson probably gave it to her once he grew out of it and/or it got worn down.
>>341273331
>Projecting this hard
>>341273331
>acting like an fps game is hard to anyone in the year 2016
>>341256309
timed
>>341273613
it sure seems like a lot of people have an issue with quakes difficulty
if the enemies are "bullet sponges" (despite the fact that ammo isnt rare in quake) that must mean that someone had some kind of difficulty with them
>>341273830
bullet sponges are generally bad because it's not fun to shoot one enemy for too long
for example, if you've played the new shadow warrior, the bosses there are the worst example of bullet sponges i've probably ever seen
>>341272126
Ok I just tested this shit: default sv_aim value is 0.93 +mlook being toggled or not.
So unless you disable it completely it does indeed have autoaim on by default, however, at that value it's not as accurate as the one in Doom, you still have to aim vertically, if only slightly.
You're all faggots, as I suspected all along.
I JUST WANT ANOTHER QUAKE 1 SP
>>341274624
quake isnt an example of bullet sponges
"bullet sponge" was created for japanese type games where you literally hit the same enemy for 10 minutes. ppl are complaining that quake enemies take 4 shots from a weak weapon, because they are bad at the game and can't play it without dying.
