Microsoft have made it completely pointless to buy an xbox because its all out on PC.
Considering most people will want to be owning a PC for other things in life its completely pointless to buy an xbox for gaming AND a pc for normal shit.
Why buy a $200 PC to do the day to day shit and a $350 xbox to play games when you can spend $550 and get all those games on the xbox, with better graphics, all the thousands of games that aint on xbox, free online, mods, upgradability, not to mention a pc you can do all the normal day to day shit with.
Seems kind of a dumb move. Give me one good reason anyone would want to buy an xbox.
>>341202191
A cheap setup box to watch UHD-BD with.
Normie friends who don't know what a pc is.
>>341202827
Kids of 5 years fucking old know what PC gaming is. Just look at minecraft. They have no excuse.
Microsoft doesn't care.
The entire point of the Xbox brand was to take market-share away from Sony's gaming division.
Whether they do that with games on Xbox or games on PC, it doesn't matter to them (not that they're doing a great job of it right now).
>>341203052
They don't have any excuse, but those are the kind of people I work with. Dudebros who only play Call of Duty
>>341203052
Minecraft has sold much more on console that it ever did on PC.
"Most" people buy a laptop, and they can't handle things more demanding than The Sims or indie games. It makes more sense to pick up a current gen console on Black Friday, than to drop hundreds on a gaming PC, which is tethered to one location at a time, to replace their perfectly functional laptop.
>with better graphics, all the thousands of games that aint on xbox, free online, mods, upgradability,
That may be crucial to you, but you aren't most people, and they don't care.
I love this as a PC gamer to be honest,
PC-XBOX ALLIANCE UNITE
>>341203063
Surely pushing something that fails is only going to cost them money. I can imagine people will have even LESS reason to buy an xbox because of E3. Not to mention microsoft only makes money on the software sales of windows 10, not the pc parts or any third party game.
Software sales of windows 10... lel
its not pointless, its a cheap way to play the latest games. its also a cheap way to put your games on another television since if you buy a game it can be played on all your microsoft hardware. its basically like a steam machine now.
kill yourself.
>>341203665
>>341203524
the development of eGPU is actually starting to get to that magical point where you can plug an external video gard to a laptop and then proceed to game. That is the breaking point.
>>341202191
try to understand that not everyone wants to buy a gaming PC. microsoft is smart enough to realize this, which is why they've combined the two.
I could write up a 2 hour presentation for why PC is better than consoles, and my cousins wouldn't give two fucks. They like consoles, they will always buy consoles, so no reason to even try to convince them.
>>341203404
I know, says alot about consoles.
>>341202191
>Why buy a $200 PC to do the day to day shit
>buy a $200 PC
>$200
>>341203524
Thats still the cost of a laptop and a console. I do see the point about it being tethered to one location, but you have phones for that. Which everyone also ownes.
>>341203884
>Microsoft is smart enough to realize this
That explains why they are already working on a new console, and throwing this past one in the trash as a failure right?
Oh shit wait
>>341204281
sonyboi please understand
the scorpio shits all over the neo and is in the same family as the one all one games play on the scorpio.
>>341202191
you still have to BUY the games stupid, that's where the real money is made
>>341204281
jesus you're retarded
>>341204061
Why what would you put the PC cost at? My price was just to get something that can do normal tasks. Any higher would only prove my point more as the cost would be added to the total.
>>341203852
>where you can plug an external video gard to a laptop
Ah yes, I can't wait to be on the move with a gpu strapped to my laptop
just buy a fucking desktop at that point.
>>341204495
This.
And Microsoft isn't sony.
If the Xbox has a shitty year Microsoft has multiple billion generating products so they don't give a shit.
It won't fucking die the moment Xbone has a bad year.
>>341204281
>Neo was confirmed
>NX coming within the next year or two
Yeah, let's not keep up with the Joneses or anything. And besides, it's not like the current xbone will suddenly stop working once the S release.
With their games on PC, Microsoft will sell just as many (if not more) copies of their games now that their playerbase is split across two platforms. In addition, they can scale back their console manufacturing, which they produce at a loss, while still nabbing the fanboys who pay $100 for a "pro" controller.
This is a win-win for them.
>>341204495
>buying games
>PC
Pick one.
Also.
Im not asking where the money is made im asking why microsoft is spending money at all on the xbox and then making it moot to own one.
>>341204748
this
this is just free money for microsoft. Most PC users won't buy an xbone anyway.
>>341204960
>who pay $100 for a "pro" controller
*$150
>>341202191
lets say you want a computer that can play games.
you can build your own, which many people NO MATTER how easy it is, just can't be assed to do. or you can buy a prebuilt PC, which may run games well depending on who sets you up with a machine, or you dig around for a good machine.
or just buy a console, the new Xbox is maybe going to be a really powerful console and all your existing Xbone games will work on iy.
so this is for people who arent that much of pc enthusiast. I myself own an Xbone to play with friends, but I plan on upgrading my PC soon cause I dont see any use in buying the new xbox for now. I might depending on the price, cause I like owning physical games and being able to carry my consoles around.
>>341203884
What you say is true, in other words. This doesn't change anything since Microsoft are greedy fucks that wanted the wealth of cash made from multi plats. They won't allow steam on their console as they are in direct competition with them as a distributor platform, they will only benefit on exclusive sales to a wider audience, while believing this will offset peoples choices from upgrading a PC with the same price it costs a Scorpio to enjoy similar experiences.
It's about the games in the end, don't they think it's a terrible move for certain genres they are strongest in, why play FPS on a console type system, everyone will shift their attention to the PC Win10, the same with racing and even sport especially due to their anti multiplayer on one console ideology.
They will shrink their console sales of multi plats for Scorpio with this move, not increase it.
Sure it's going to the brand, but this provides less incentive to buy the Scorpio as a replacement is provided.
You can't rely on your consumers to be dumb when the average age of a gamer is older than a teenager.
>>341204960
>With their games on PC, Microsoft will sell just as many (if not more) copies of their games now that their playerbase is split across two platforms.
funnily enough they were smart enough to have cross play and cross buy for both platforms. I'm glad they did something so pro-consumer.
>>341205014
People are getting off topic. Im not asking why microsoft is doing this. Im asking why I or anyone else would want to buy an xbox when a PC is a better choice both for games and money wise.
Some alright points so far but it really just sounds like they are making xbox for kids or people who dont really play games.
>>341202191
I'm a pc guy since forever and I would rather buy an xbox than deal with win10
>>341205306
this guy gets it, I use my PC for leisure and grafix/performance
and my xbone for friends
>>341202191
Sonyigger shill?
>>341205764
Pc only.
>>341205573
Which I dont understand because a PC would still be the better choice for both.
>>341205573
Because the average consumer is a technological mongoloid that doesn't even know that a PC has more than a GPU, CPU and RAM.
That most people would look at an XBONE and see that it's a better deal than the average prebuilt computer
You also have people that will go "Well I have all this PC games that will work on a bone so let's get that too"
How is it this hard to understand you autist? Do you think that all the millions of people that bought a Bone or a PS4 bought it for exclusives? Look at how shitty BloodBorne, THE PS4 exclusive did compared to other multiplatform games.
It's not fucking rocket science.
>>341205591
>I'm a pc guy since forever and I would rather buy an xbox than deal with win10
This.
More importantly though, the PC and console markets have very little overlap.
Anyone that thinks this will hurt Microsoft needs to take a look at the most popular games on playstation 4 (they're all multiplats available on xbone)
>>341205591
>I have never used win10 before
win7 has become the new xp
>>341206136
Sony did overall performance better than Xbone - because of Kinect, that stigma never washed away. I'd admit the Xbone features are 100x better than what they were, but you know what?
People don't give a fuck, do it right in the first place or suck a gigantic fat dick. They are tired of an industry that puts quality into an update. They didn't read the mood of the times, so Sony far outsold Microsoft for not being a fuck up.
Both had strong marketing campaigns, for multi platform games and this is where the generation won. It's like you didn't even realize the Wii was the greatest success of it's generation, or the lucrative sales of mobile gaming still.
If you were focusing the topic on AAA games, sequels may be fun, but they are old, and Microsoft is full of stale fish repeating the same formula in a new skin.
You know what was a good game? Titanfall. You know what happened to it? Microsoft fucked Respawn in the ass and there was no server matchmaking.
The company made horrible choices for gamers, and fixed their mistakes later. Sony had no exclusive honors, they just made less mistakes.
People were smart enough to realize that, not enough positive marketing spin could fix that.
>>341206136
>I have something to play all these games, so lets spend more money on something to play these games.
Why would anyone ever do that? People will really spend a few hundred just to play games they can already play? At lower graphics and with p2p online?
Surely even the biggest moron could work out that they may as well at least buy a ps4 or wii U so they could have some other games.
I can only guess from the posts in this thread that the only reasy ANYONE would buy an xbox is because they are stupid or have stupid friends.
>>341205591
Get a HD with Win10 installed, dual boot off your gaming rig instant presto a $200 attachment that saves money from buying Scorpio, which could go towards a 2017 AMD chip.
>>341205408
>wanted the wealth of cash made from multiplats.
true but in turned started focusing on their own games which is a huge bonus to xbox fans but most multiplats went to sony simply because of the ps4's graphics "1080p" because they want the better looking game with main games being made for ps4 with everything else in the after thought.
>its about games in the end
you're half right on that its about games but its also about graphics which is why scorpio is going to be a dominant force
>less incentive to buy the scorpio
theres tons more incentive to buy a scorpio if it plays games in 4k because you're not going to see another competitor on the market if the games look better on scorpio and its a simple console. you better believe people and developers will start flocking towards it because it has better graphics and is more powerful.
>>341207260
for at least a decade consoles main demo has been stupid people so you may have a point mate
>>341202191
console gaming has always been dumb, microsoft now realizes this, but the plebs still don't
the only friends that i have that play games on pcs are fedora fags. owning a console is just easier. it's less clunky and wont be obsolete in a year. i could give two shits about specs. just give me a hard copy and let me plop that bad boy in. i get why people go pc but as a tech mongoloid it's easier to just get a console. like that one anon said i cant lug a huge ass pc around, and i especially dont want to be fucking around with new graphics cards every year. i'm too autistic and lazy for that.
OP has missed the entire point of what Microsoft has done today and instead resorted to classic shitposting.
Microsoft is breaking down the traditional notion of console generations and instead is opting for one unified platform for all play. You have the Xbox One for a standard console experience, the Scorpio for extremely high end gaming, and Whatever kind of windows 10 PC you want to use for anything in between or below.
This is probably the best thing to happen to the industry from a platform perspective in a long time.Walls are being broken down, and that's a good thing.
So when OP says "there is no reason to buy an Xbox One" he's gravely mistaken. He's acting as if everyone has access to a high end PC. The overwhelming majority do not.
The play anywhere program or whatever it's called gives access to the Xbox library to everyone within the windows network through various means of affordability.
Shut the fuck up. Only fucking nerds and neckbeards buy desktop PCs.
Normies buy consoles you huge retard
>>341207880
/thread
>>341207336
This is a matter of Scorpio outselling Neo then, it's about the games. Microsoft needs a better offering to beat up Sony's current line up if they want to sell new technology at the start of its life.
There's a reason why Microsoft didn't outsell Sony in the first place and that's consumer trust, which Microsoft has done nothing to earn, only repair, there's quite a difference between the two.
Microsoft is dead in Japan as well.
The people who can enjoy 4k television have the cash for a gaming PC if they are the hardcore enthusiast crowd. The numbers of casual xboners with that much cash to burn is small, far smaller than you think will serve as an incentive.
Power didn't matter for Nintendo at one point, I can see Sony assuming the same position with their influx of game development now that the console has matured.
>>341207880
/thread
>>341203852
As of right now, an eGPU case is obscenely expensive and doesn't even include a GPU
Also you need a fancy laptop with thunderbolt 3, which only the premium ones have
>>341207880
this, my poorfag friends can't afford a bloody high end PC. I can can because of my summer job, but they are not fortunate enough for that. So I buy consoles to play with them instead. I don't mind, I play what I want on whatever I want. and this W10 business only helps.
>>341202191
The 970 is the card with the most users with 5% from steam with a 980TI with a measly 1%, you have to be seriously braindead if you think a significant amount of console fags can even run the games with their shittops
>>341202191
I just want MCC for the PC
>>341207880
It's not difficult to buy a high end PC.
How poor are you plebs exactly?
>>341202191
yeah but you need windows 10 to play anything
that sucks
>>341202191
Yeah it's all PC, but the problem is that it all requires Windows 10.
>>341203665
Anything to make a dent in the constant wave of Sonypony shitposting
>>341207880
Holy shit this.
It's a unifying experience while also keeping games away from playstation.
It is good for gamers so they can play together on different devices and good for M$ in that they keep titles away from their competitor.
If anythinh, the pressure will be on Sony to have an answer to this.
Partnership with steam?
>>341207880
Seriously, it's not that hard to understand:
>Xbone: I want to play games
>Scorpio: I want a premium console
>PC: I'm a gaming enthusiast
But 90% of /v/ are literal children so I can see where the confusion comes from
>>341207880
You are bringing the fight to Scorpio vs Neo then, PS4 has more games and an earlier grasp of VR integration. Gimmick or not, they will have a lead on a gamble that has a huge as fuck payoff.
You also falsely expect Neo to be left in the dust when there are no details.
>>341207880
Walls are being broken, and then rebuilt around the even larger walled garden.
Why won't microsoft release their games for PS4 or Wii U, if they're all about borderless experiences?
>>341208585
this, I will stick to my xbone, I really don't want W10
>>341208621
>the pressure will be on Sony to have an answer to this.
And the answer is to do absolutely nothing and watch the PS+ cash roll in
>>341208879
>You also falsely expect Neo to be left in the dust when there are no details.
Why else would Sony have backed out from showing the Neo at this E3 if they weren't worried about being shown up by Scorpio?
>>341205652
>trying to explain playing with friends to /v/
>especially to mustards
Good fucking luck, 90% of these rejects are NEETs who haven't come into contact with anyone but pizza deliverers in the last decade.
>>341208224
japans market is small and damaged compared to the west,consumer trust is one thing but the ps4 had better graphics which sold it and a majority of people simply touted it as the better console because it played multiplats in 1080p. if console has better graphics it will gain more attention than others which will definitely be a selling point for the Xbox scorpio because at the moment no other system will be playing games in 4k.
another major thing is that you don't need a 4k screen tv to see 4k graphics, People still watch 4k porn on 1080 screens,but you do need a 4k screen tv in order to fully appreciate them .
this is why xbox scorpio will be outselling the neo if it drops in the same year.
>>341209036
See >>341208621
It's MS vs Sony, not Xbox vs playstation.
Releasing Xbox games on Windows 10 doesn't hurt the Xbox. They're two completely different markets.
Only difference is now they are bridged.
>>341207880
Did you actualy read the post?
One point I made is that its CHEAPER to go PC only rather than split the cost over a pc and console. You also get a better gaming experiance for the price.
Not everyone has access to a high end PC yes but thats missing the point. If someone has the oppertunity to gain access to both a pc and an xbox then they certainly DO have access to a pc good enough to play these games. The ONLY thing that could stop a person from realising the better deal is that they are too stupid.
>>341209767
even if microsoft wanted to bring down walls with nintendo and playstation, they would say no.
you act like this is a one-sided deal
>>341209767
>we're "#4thegamers" and we do the consumer-friendly thing
>except put our games on other platforms, that would be crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFSo5hEQcXw&feature=youtu.be&a
Based BBC sums it up
>>341209824
Not only that but I bet:
Cost of xbox+pc> PC capable of beating xbox
Cost of scorp+PC> PC capable of beating scorp
There is no reason to buy an xbox outside of being too stupid to PC.
>>341209767
Sony have ran with the consumer first gimmick for years mate and they still run with exclusives
>>341210191
Not that building or using a pc is hard. if /v/fags can do it than anyone can.
>>341210191
>There is no reason to buy an xbox outside of being too stupid to PC.
So the majority of people
MS make no money on the console itself, if they can sell games on their own store that is much more profitable.
>>341210191
>>341209824
the level of idiocy in these post are so unreal.
>>341210185
>nigger understanding how things work
nice try
>>341210661
care to explain why instead of just shitposting?
>>341207110
So what you're saying is PS4 owners are more likely to make knee-jerk purchases based on marketing hype, memes and E3 presentations, while Xbone owners actually had the foresight to realize Microsoft is a much larger company that can actually afford to fix any mistakes and improve their console?
Yup. Sounds about right.
>>341210636
This. When will you dumbfucks realize that MS makes bank by forcing you to either get their console or upgrade to Win10 so they can data mine your shit? Either way they win, they want you to use their software, they don't give a fuck what hardware you use. This has been Nadella's philosophy since he became CEO.
>>341210636
Alright but why would I or anyone else buy one apart from they are too dumb to sort a PC out?
>>341210953
Oh its probably going to make money im sure but im not asking WHY has microsoft done it im asking WHY would anyone buy an xbox when pc has it beat in every area including price. The only answer is that dumb people exist.
>>341211381
what part of
>buy box
>don't need to build it
>plug it in
>games work
don't you get
this has always been the appeal of consoles
>>341210953
>Win10 so they can data mine your shit
If you have ANY MS product, they can do it without you noticing. Even IF they do datamine yourshit its only so that they get info on what YOU want. That way they make tons more money. Anyone who knows anything about marketing understands this.
>>341202191
Let's say you're a typical 30yo parent who likes watching tv and movies, has a laptop already but the laptop is obviously shit at vidya but your kid keeps nagging you for games. You get an Xbone, because of it's perfect home media center integration as well as the capability to play games.
>>341210912
because you'd have to be socially inept not to understand why the majority consumers who sees a console and buys a console.
its easy to see you're viewing the xbox with extreme bias.
>>341211510
Not him, but thats exactly what i've done with my laptop.
>>341211078
That's literally the reason, and it's a good one at that. You may have the patience and the time to build a PC and deal with all the optimization issues and whatnot, but most people don't. Microsoft knows this, so they accounted for it with the various Xboxes.
You want to plug a piece of hardware in and play games with no hassle, occasionally getting free games via Live? Get the Xbone.
You want to still have that luxury while having a little bit more processing power for a bit more? Get the Scorpio.
You already have a high end PC and just want to play the games? Get Microsoft's Windows 10.
In this fashion, they account for all price ranges and mentalities while still keeping their exclusives away from Sony, their real competitor. It's not hard to understand.
>>341211381
>He can't even imagine owning a console to entertain friends
We don't all sit alone in dark rooms, anon. Now bring on the inevitable epic memes about how I'm a casual.
>>341211510
For one you can do exactly the same with PC.
and two if the only appeal a console has is that its easy to set up, and that single thing is the only reason you are gimping yourself and buying a console then you are an idiot at best.
>>341211810
exactly, the simple devices appeal to the masses, it's easy to work with.
we have desktops because we are enthusiasts. We are a minority.
>>341208381
>>341202191
>Microsoft have made it completely pointless to buy an xbox because its all out on PC.
Its out on W10, and all the W10 exclusive games run like utter shit
>>341211381
And dumb people are the ones more forthcoming with their money, and they'll spend it on something that they can plug in and make work, something which their friends are more likely to do as well.
>>341212142
>For one you can do exactly the same with PC.
did the
>don't need to build it
escape you?
>inb4 you mention laptops or prebuilts
>>341211776
You did not actualy explain anything.
You also missed the point,for xbox there has been at least one other reason to buy it up to now.
Now the only single reason to buy one is because your dumb or your friends are. And FYI if sony or nintendo did the same thing id say exactly the same.
To put it in a way you "might" understand. why would anyone buy single apple when they could get a bowl of fruit, apple included. for the same price.
And if your so mad that your wrong you cant actualy explain anything then just stop.
>>341204657
The majority of steam users have laptops with integrated graphics. The success of low-intensity games like LoL, Hearthstone, and Counter-Strike confirm that the market is skewed towards low-performance. Hell, look at upcoming titles like Dawn of War 3 and Civ V: clearly aimed at low-performance PCs.
Most PC owners on /v/ seem to have desktop PCs, but it can be assumed that the average idiot kid uses their Dell laptop's Celeron processor to play League of Legends and watch YouTubers play what they can't run.
Affordable and easy-to-use eGPUs would actually be a great boon to PC gaming, as developers would no longer be held back by kids too stupid to buy a decent computer.
>>341212895
wait what, you think an xbone and PC that's able to play the Windows 10 games are the same price?
>>341209737
How do they watch 4k pornhub on a 1080p tv, your making no sense.
>>341212142
No you can't. You buy the Xbone, you plug it in to your TV, and it works right away.
This part is assuming you know nothing about PC gaming yet want to try it out.
For a PC, a good one at least, you're gonna want to build it yourself. So you go on Newegg or whatever, spend hours, maybe days, keeping track of the market and buying the parts that will create an effective overall setup while saving money, then, if you're not familiar with the workings of PC hardware, which most people aren't, look up what all the parts do, then wait for the PC parts to deliver, then look up a Youtube video on how to build the thing, which could take a while depending on how inept you are. Even then, it's still not over. You need to buy and install the OS assuming it doesn't come preinstalled, W10 in this case. Then, once that's finally done and you get to the Xbox store, you still need to create an avatar and all that, and then you can finally buy the game you want. But wait, what if the game doesn't run as intended? What if the resolution/framerate is shit? Time to spend more time looking things up and adjusting the proper settings! And after all that, you can finally play a game better looking than a console.
Does that sound like something a normal person or child wants to do?
>>341212081
I can (and have) set my pc up to play games, music, have the internet open on another monitor and run youtube videos on a tv all at once for when a group of friends were around.
Please tell me how a console can do better when a pc is capable of much more. Cuz the MOST it can do it play a game split screen and perhaps play some music.
>just built a gaming PC
It feels good. At least they sold me an Xbox one controller.
You don't have to know why if you don't plan to buy it, because...well you don't plan to buy.
But you can't stop it sells.
>>341212329
just because you >inb4 it does not make the argument less valid dumbass. hell you even answered your own question with the word prebuilt.
>>341213129
Are you retarded? Is this the general intelligence level of /v/?
>>341213247
>You need to buy and install the OS assuming it doesn't come preinstalled,
>buy and install the OS
Most operating systems you see in speccy threads around here are pirated when you spot Windows 7 Ultimate or Windows 10 Enterprise/LTSB N.
But it's true that for normals nothing beats the brain dead convenience of modern consoles, except the fucking part where you "install" the game.
>>341213576
no because a prebuilt can't play those W10 games, prebuilts are overpriced garbage, certainly more expensive than a goddamn xbone.
>>341213247
Not that guy but you're absolutely correct.
In theory, the easier alternative would be to buy a prebuilt or laptop, which are notoriously shit and have only been getting shittier as tablets have continued to steal the show.
That's why steamboxes were actually a novel idea, make it easier than ever to get into PC gaming. I'm convinced that if they were just a few years earlier to the party, and were actually advertised, they would have seen a lot more success. There was a good 5-year window where nobody was buying consoles because the old ones were being phased out and the new ones didn't have any games yet. Wasted opportunity for Valve to gain some real traction - impossible now that so many people have bought new-gen consoles.
>>341209824
>everyone is stupid except me
M8, I play almost entirely on PC, but for teens at least, which are the majority demo, consoles provide a better and far more affordable experience
>>341213089
did you read the OP?
The point that was made was that most people are likely to buy a PC to do pc stuff.
Yes the cost of a pc able to play these games is higher than an xbox, but the cost of a cheap pc and an xbox combined is higher then the cost of a pc able to play these games. In addition you lose out extra things by going pc+xbox.
>>341213718
Yeah, but I'm talking about normal people who are afraid of getting caught by the ISPs or the government for piracy, which is illegal, you know. Most normal people don't know that legal caveats behind piracy or the fact that they probably wouldn't come after you unless you're a distributor. So they'll buy the OS or have it installed to avoid all that.
>>341213857
Of course more expencive then just an xbone, but still less expencive then an xbone+PC.
>>341212895
im not mad at all, i enjoy you trying to bait out emotion but you're saying its cheaper to buy a pc than an xbox or a playstation that's able to play the same games and out preform them that's bull shit you can't pay only 300$ and hope to outperform an xbox one and a playstation 4 on pc. There's tons of info in this thread and yet you're coming to me asking for it when you can't even comprehend it. theres a reason why i was saying you'd have to be socially inept because it's as if you don't like to go around meet new people and talk to them to get an understanding of how the average consumer thinks outside of just online forums.
>>341202191
>implying MS hasn't self-sabotaged both their the PC and Xbox brands
>>341213263
>I can (and have) set my pc up to play games
As have I.
It's a huge hassle and normies want nothing to do with it.
>>341213263
>Please tell me how a console can do better when a pc is capable of much more.
Because a console will do it quickly and smoothly, whereas you have to lug out your desktop, hook it up to your TV and make sure it's configured correctly. I guess it'd make sense if you rarely had guests over, and didn't mind looking like a total sperg to them, or set up your desktop in the middle of your living room.
>I can (and have) set my pc up to play games, music, have the internet open on another monitor and run youtube videos on a tv all at once for when a group of friends were around.
Well, unlike you, I have friends (I could probably end this here) that don't have crippling ADHD, and can stand to be around eachother, so playing a game or watching a movie on it's own is plenty entertaining without having to have 15 different programs running at once.
You need to get out more, man.
>>341214104
But the for the price of a PC+xbox you could have a PC that beats it, its not a matter of affordability. In fact if you add on the p2p online to the xbox deal and include the option to pirate games this deal goes even further in the other direction for teens.
>>341214369
of course, but a person with just a prebuilt will never be able to run the W10 games. And they won't likely upgrade since they bought a prebuilt to begin with.
Because it's plug and play.
You need to understand that not everyone understands/has the time to build their own gaming computer. And lets be honest, it won't cost <$300 to build a PC with the same specs as an xbox one.
>>341209824
You realize people buy consoles for more than just video games, right? My parents just bought an Xbone basically as a replacement for cable and to play blurays.
Oh that's right, you've made video games your life (because you never had a social one) and cant fathom people using technology for anything else.
>>341216165
this, even the 750ti build is more than an xbone, now that it's only 300$
>>341215032
Point I was making is that I have the oppertunity to go small or large whereas xbox only has the oppertunity to go small. And if you have ever had more than a few people over at once you would understand not all of them want to do exactly the same thing. I usualy keep my PC in my room, and it stays there when i have a guest or two over. But when I have more I try to cater to everyone.
For example a bad host would force everyone to watch anime when two people arnt into it. But If they want to play a football game on the a different monitor they can do. Ill tell you the more people you have together the harder it is to make sure everyone is having a good time.
>>341215951
Im sure you could get a prebuilt capable of running those games for the price of a bone+cheap pc.
>>341202191
You retards need to get out more, the gaming base isnt /v/, everyone here isnt the majority, we're not even a minority, we're a niche group thats just vocal on forums. Regular people arent thinking about buying a PC, much less building one themselves. If the average consumer was of that mind then there would be no console gaming, but they'll gladly eat up any E3 showings.There's a reason the best selling PC games are made to run on toasters, your fancy rigs arent a profitable base to invest in, consoles that kids, dudebros and the like are where the money is at. Right now some chad or weeaboo is sperging out over the new consoles and games.
Deal with it, you economically illiterate dipshits.
>>341216676
W10 games are notoriously unoptimized
>>341209767
What are you on about? It looks like they actually tore down one border
>>341217130
this
even mid tier PCs are only like 20% of the steam userbase
>>341217240
To create another one, twice as large.
>>341216514
Why though? you can get a fire stick or some form of cable and blue ray player for less money. You say I cant fathom technology being used for anything else but it seems its other people like your parents cant fathom that technology is made for a specific set of reasons and is priced accordingly.
>>341208572
It isn't, but normies (the people who more buy games) don't know how to PC works, I mean, how make them.
>>341202191
>Considering most people will want to be owning a PC
>CURRENT YEAR
>>341214209
We live in a time when normals are afraid of piracy? When these same normal faggots gave no shits by "pirated" TV shows and movies by recording them on VHS and shared them around, or stuck a cassette tape in their boombox and recorded a song over the radio?
>>341217314
that wall was always there
>>341217130
pretty much this
>>341217812
The wall was half as large for each section.
>>341216676
Even a prebuilt still requires work. You think that just because it's prebuilt, it's going to magically appear in a random space in your house completely functional? A prebuilt PC comes with all the parts, but you still have to build it in your house. Or, pay a guy $50-100 to do it for you. You have to find room for all the parts, the monitor, the CPU, the keyboard, and so on, unlike the Xbone which is it's own little box that fits anywhere. Then you still have to install the OS, which normies will buy instead of pirate. And once that's done, you still don't have the best that PC gaming has to offer. Also, like this anon>>341215951
said, if you cared so little about your PC experience that you decided to get a prebuilt, you likely won't care about getting upgrades, which means that your PC is rendered a toaster within 2 or so years. And the Xbone/Scorpio will be able to outpace it then.
We're telling you again and again, it's about the convenience, not about the cost or the processing power. Normies don't give a shit. What really sells consoles is not the exclusives like you guys claim. It's the friends you have. Normies don't care about exclusives or power or console wars or anything like that. They want an easy to use machine that works decently well, and that they can use with their friends. And normies are the ones that have the majority of the purchasing power in any market. This is why the iPhones are so successful regardless of their inferiority to the Android.
It's the ease of use and the social aspect that sell technology. Nothing else.
>>341216563
No the point you seem to be trying to make is that PC is somehow all-around 'better' than consoles. Whereas I'm saying they both have positives and negatives.
Judging by the fact that you admit to having to drag out and set up your desktop + monitors every time more then 3 people come to your house is very telling that social play is an obvious negative to PC gaming.
I guarantee your 'friends' think you're a much worse/cringy host as you fiddle with wires and configurations for several minutes while they sit around and talk about how they only hang out with you out of pity.
You can't browse the windows store on a pirated windows 10, so you're fucked on the ports
and who is going to pay $200 for an os
>>341217130
No shit. Point I was trying to make was that the only reason anyone unretarded would buy an xbox is because is has something that cant be found anywhere else. However this is no longer true. Now the only reason to buy an xbox is because your a dumb fuck.
Sure dumb fucks may be the majority, I cant argue that but that was not really the point I was trying to make.
>>341218169
>A prebuilt PC comes with all the parts, but you still have to build it in your house
>pre-built PC
>build it
Oh no you don't faggot, that's why it's called a pre-built. You stick the power into the outlet, plug in all the plugs that need plugging from the computer to the monitor/mouse/keyboard, no different from plugging in a controller and the external power supply, boot it up, get on the internet, done.
Reminder console games sell more than pc.
>>341218169
>A prebuilt PC comes with all the parts, but you still have to build it in your house. Or, pay a guy $50-100 to do it for you
Do you know what a prebuilt is? The key is in the name. You dont actualy have to build anything yourself OR install any OS. You pull it out the box, plug in the cables and off you go, just like a console.
>>341218293
>You can't browse the windows store on a pirated windows 10
False. Those who upgraded from pirated 7/8.1 OS have genuine windows 10.
Sounds great until you realize
>windows 10
I will never install that botnet shit.
>>341218776
No they don't, they have a version that says its "genuine" but is actually tagged for fraud
>>341217561
Yes. And with the view that everyone shares on the Internet, that the government is breathing down their throats every second, they're afraid that one slip up will do them in for good. And considering the amount of news stories about people locked up or blacklisted because of stuff they do on the internet, coupled with the average person's naivete in regards to cybercrime, they're paranoid. They won't know how risky piracy might be until they give it a shot. And that's something they probably won't do. In regards to movies and the like, normies always stream. They never pirate. They also don't even know that you can pirate an OS, as the OS is preinstalled on most of their computers.
>>341218592
>pre-builts are acceptable now
>sonyggers think e3 was a complete success
>people are upset over cross platform play
is this /v/'s 9/11 ?
>>341202191
550$ only gets you a gpu, senpai
>>341218889
False, otherwise they wouldn't be getting feature updates. Get rekt M$ shill.
>>341219180
>posts using windows
teehee
>>341218993
>implying pre-builts are acceptable
You implied it, not me. Pre-builts still suck, most are CPU heavy weak on the GPU and they skimp on the fucking PSU so you end up with a spaghetti of cables when opening up the case.
>>341202191
like can you show a 550 dollar laptop that runs games better than xbox one?
>>341218592
>>341218721
Okay, fine. This doesn't render any of my other points moot. You think they're going to keep up with the PC gaming market in order to upgrade their PC's to play modern games? And since you're right about what a prebuilt is, this actually strengthens my overall argument in a way. If the normie gets a prebuilt PC, assuming he knows nothing about PC gaming, as indicated by the fact that he bought a prebuilt in the first place, he's not going to know what any of the parts do, or what to do if and when the parts go wrong or don't play up to standard. So the hassle might not come in the form of installation like I previously claimed, but instead, it comes in the form of getting progressively newer games to work on a PC that will age like milk.
>>341202191
>Microsoft have made it completely pointless to buy an xbox because its all out on PC.
Retard meme that total misses the point of why people buy console games in the first place
You're an idiot op
>>341219352
u wot m8
>>341218214
Ahh resorting to an ad hominem I see.
Im not sure if I should bother to continue as you sound like bad bait but one thing I will say just for others reading is that its piss EASY to set this all up, its all plug in and go, takes 10 mins tops and thats it for the whole night.
The fact you think its difficult shows alot and fact you think there would ever be fiddleing after initial setup just shows me you have little experiance in doing such a thing.
>>341213701
Well please explain to me how someone is able to watch 4k videos on a 1080p tv or monitor.
You sound like those dumb people who would say they post 4k pictures and people wouldn't know the difference.
>>341219532
>You think they're going to keep up with the PC gaming market in order to upgrade their PC's to play modern games?
Except they haven't kept up with the PC gaming market ever since they killed their PC division during the heydays of the original Xbox. They're playing catchup with Steam for market share.
>>341217405
>Why though!?
>getting this butthurt over a difference of around $100
I guess because they can easily afford it, and it's less hassle then using multiple devices for them? Also my dad likes to fuck around with video games once in a blue moon. Not everyone is limited to Autismbux for their budget, Anon.
>>341202191
Because I'm not poor
>>341219556
>>341203052
>Just look at minecraft.
It's also on consoles, you cuckholded PC faggot. Try not to argue yourself into a wall next time, you gargantuan RETARD.
>>341219414
>when opening up the case
If you can even do that these days. Been noticing that a lot of newer prebuilts these days have some weird ass security to make it harder to open up the case.
>>341219532
Not sure if you know this but a pc has the same kind of life span as a console. If you bought a gaming PC at the same time as a ps4 its likely you will still be playing new games when the ps4 comes to an end. Not at max of course.
Also its extremely simple to put in a new GPU I would assume gaming on a pc for a few years would give you some kind of knowlage, and anyone who spends 5 minutes looking how to upgrade will learn very quick. Not everyone knows how to build or upgrade a PC but ill bet everyone at leasnt knows of the ability to upgrade.
Weren't Microsoft trying to make it so if you want to develop games on Windows you'd need to buy a license and then give Microsoft a part of your revenue?
>>341202191
But Xbox has a better and longer lifespan
>>341219769
I was talking about the average normie in regards to playing catchup with their PC's, I should have made that more clear.
And they're not trying to usurp anyone in the gaming market, they literally don't have to. They're already rich from the Windows monopoly alone. They're going for diversification. And the way they're doing it is by making their games available to all Microsoft controlled platforms, to appeal to the highest range of potential buyers, from the console normalfag to the hardcore PC gamer. They don't need to control either the console or the PC market if they have a foothold in both, and that's what they're trying to do.
>>341219898
>because minecraft is on console kinds dont know what a pc is.
Read a few posts into a conversation before embarrassing yourself anon.
>>341219624
>wow! way to resort to ad hom!
>ur probably just a troll bro!
Pathetic.
If you could comprehend what you read, you'd see I never said it was massively difficult to set up, I said it was simply EASIER to just turn on a console than dragging out your desktop and setting it up for ten minutes while your company sits around awkwardly watching you fuck around with your monitors.
PC is better for graphics, controls and speed, hands down, that's why I own both, but to delude yourself that setting up and entertaining company using one isn't way more of a hassle is completely moronic.
>>341202191
Yep they practically killed their own device by announcing every single piece of software for Windows 10.
>>341203052
Minecraft sold much more on consoles - the word you're looking for on PC is manchild not child.
>>341220220
Hexagonal screws that require some vague screwdriver you don't normally see in daily use, or do you mean something way worse? Post an example.
>>341220232
>Not sure if you know this but a pc has the same kind of life span as a console.
The GPU has the same lifespan as the console, not the PC itself if you didn't fuck up with the CPU. Overclockable Sandy Bridge i7s still stand strong for gaming.
Once again people still assume the Neo will be vastly outperformed by Scorpio. Sony already has a considerable market lead and good faith, the only question is for casual fags, are the games coming out worth the purchase of a Scorpio.
Once again Forza nails it, and so does Steep. Every other game is fucking shit, great work Microsoft E3, the next year when you need games the most to sell your console against a competitor that is going all out with content.
You are fucked in the ass, in a business sense. Meanwhile Sony marketing has an ambitious plan with VR, which is a gamble 70% chance to fail, but then having the PS3 experience they are familiar with long term failure and coming even.
If they get people into VR, Sony has won the future, if not, they are just below in delivering 4k gaming via console.
IF YOU CAN PLAY GAMES ON SCORPIO OR PC YOU PICK ONE YOU STUPID FUCKS BECAUSE THE PC IS JUST AS POWERFUL ISN'T IT?
>>341219813
So it was bought for more than just the origonal reasons you stated? Because they also dont want hassle of multiple devices and use it for gaming in a blue moon.
Even with what you have said there are still better options for their needs. I guess your right in a way but its extremely anecdotal and sorta misses the origonal point of the thread.
>>341221750
>origonal
You may have been right, but you made a typo and are now therefore wrong. I'd be interested in what you think is a better option though?
>>341221737
To drill in this point, if you picked to play on PC then sure the brand and sale is Xbox and it survives, but this is a consumer that would of had no need for a Scorpio in the first place. Also all multiplats will be bought off Steam, not a Win10 Xbox store.
If you play on Scorpio, you aren't rich enough to experience your games in the best quality that can be offered. That's the field of PC power scaling, especially with 2017 graphics cards.
You compromise on the expense of Scorpio, that's just so fucking dumb when a future alternative exists.
Microsoft loses as a console, goes digital, has to compete vs Steam.
Bravo whoever is planning the future, suddenly Sony's VR gamble doesn't sound half bad.
>>341220232
I'm willing to guarantee you that the only thing the average person knows how to upgrade is the OS software version, which you click on a button to execute. And from my experience, when the average person upgrades their PC, they upgrade everything, monitor, keyboard, and mouse included. Essentially, they'll just buy another prebuilt PC. Much like the console user who buys a new console. If they want to upgrade your way, assuming they know or care about what a GPU is in the first place by the time to upgrade, they have to play catchup with the state of PC gaming hardware, and find the GPU which suits their needs, which is again, a hassle. It's very likely they won't.
Again, I'm assuming that the average person is a dumbass when it comes to technology, but based on what sells in both console and PC markets, it seems that it's a reasonable one to make.
>>341222205
>>341221737
autism
>>341222845
cuck of PC
>>341221737
>Sony Net Worth: 17.7 billion
>Microsoft Net Worth: 70 billion
>He thinks market lead and good faith matter.
>>341220729
Well if you look at what an adhom is you would see its attacking a person without actualy taking part in argueing against their points.
Even though I feel your baiting I still argued against your points.
The reason what you said is such a fallacie is because instead of arguing against my points you just jump to conclusion based on 0 facts.
Then proceeded to attack.
Sure I jumped to a conclusion as well but at least mine was based off what you had perviously said and not assumptions.
And I had no intention of attacking you.
Anyway you accuse me of being unable to comprehend what I read yet I never said that you said it was massively difficult to set up, I simply stated to everyone reading that it is EASY to do. What I did say is that based on what you had said (things like "fiddleing with wires") It does not seem you have much experiance in such setups. As if you did you would understand what you said is incorrect.
You also jump to the conclusion that I would set such a thing up in company. If I know 10 people are going to show up ill set it up before hand, and ill of course know if 10 people plan on showing up to my home. Anyone would know if that kind of number is planning on showing up as such a thing would have to be planned and is not just going to happen at random.
If its just 3 or 4 who show up at random I have no need of setting anything special up as my normal setup which is equivelant to a console setup works just fine.
>>341202827
>>341203256
Are you retarded? Even my 90-year-old grandma has a PC.
>>341219627
Hahaha holy fuck are you dumb. From now on I'll take everything I read here with a grain of salt.
I'm actually laughing out loud.
>>341219142
Not anymore faggot, its called an RX 480
>>341202191
MUSTARD RACE
>>341222205
Except you're wrong in the fact that by doing this, Microsoft doesn't lose in anything, because they're not trying to compete in anything. See this post>>341220542
The point is, they're trying to create a range of options for people who want to play Microsoft games. The low end being the original Xbone, the middle end being the Scorpio, and the high end being the PC. Sure, you don't have to buy a Scorpio, but the Scorpio was never intended for you in the first place. It's meant for the person who wants to have his games look a little better, yet doesn't want the hassle of building a PC. They're not competing with Steam, all the games they want to be on the PC will be in the Windows 10 store, Microsoft controlled. They don't give a shit about the other Steam games.
The point of the Microsoft conference is that it's not Xbox vs. Playstation anymore. It's Microsoft vs. Playstation.
>3 consoles
>0 exclusives
>Xbox fans still exist
Kek
>>341222823
Its not much harder than buying a new game. Research game, buy game, insert/download, install.
Research part, Buy part, Instert, Install.
Im guessing alot of people would be put off and think this kind of thing is too hard which would have a negative effect on the number of people who want to do it. But buying a new part opening the case and slotting it in is so simple people do 2 minute how-tos on youtube.
>>341202191
You need to upgrade to win10 thats worse than buying an xbone
>>341223694
>trusting AMD after the 3.5 meme
lol
>>341223438
>Assuming Microsoft gaming is worth a decent chunk of that 70 billion
The console is a loser this gen, they pushed for an early next gen, again.
They don't have the games to promote it, it's not a no games situation like before.
Xbone takes a step forward 2 steps back approach.
Thinking that there is fiscal flow of cash to splurge and recover losses at a snap of a finger.
>>341224104
And the point of the thread was to answer the question, why buy an xbox now?
If there were truely no dumbasses then microsoft would have effectively made xbox pointless in buying because it offers nothing that cant be found elsewhere. If there were truely no dumbasses then xbox would have no sales and just be a drain on microsoft.
They have made a range of options but made certain options pointless because the better options come with a similar price tag.
Of course this is not the case. There are people who will buy xbox's.
BEST GAMING SET UP IS PC AND PS.
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>>341202191
FUCKING HELL NOT EVERYONE IS A FUCKING PCuck, we have friends who own a xbox, I have a shitty laptop good enough to run programs to work but not 4K games and I dont want tu fucking spend on PC gaming
JUST FUCKING DEAL WITH IT PCucks
>>341224421
Using the xbones ugly menu system.
Id rather be limited to windows 10 for the rest of my life.
>>341224719
There will always be idiots. Don't ever forget the red ring of death and the cause of it, even with that fiasco fucking dumbass dudebros and kids still bought replacement 360s.
>>341224846
We have established this.
People who buy xbox are either idiots or have freinds who are idiots
>>341224601
That was nvidia, you dipshit
>>341224104
Microsoft is always in competition, that's what business is. So what if they offered more products, consumer choice has fallen onto Sony's lap, and you have 'no exclusive games' to take you into your Scorpio phase.
Those exclusives you've prided on are directly competing with itself for a chosen platform, the secret is not all those games will automatically lock itself apart from the current generation of Xbone and PS4, even this will take a while to phase through.
During this time consumer choice will still fall into Sony's hands.
>>341224758
Well this it true more now.
There is 0 reason to own an xbox and a PC
Considering everyone is going to want to own a pc for day to day life it means there aint any reason to own an xbox for the normal person.
Kind of the point of the thread.
>>341225035
I bought an xbox for scalebound. I personally messaged kamiya telling him thanks for making us buy xbox to play your shitty game and he replied "too bad" then blocked me
Lol
>>341225035
This, their arguments have also fallen that they'll rely on idiots to buy Scorpio. Nice hole you all dug yourselves.
>>341225217
Its funny because anyone who wants the scoprio experiance is likely to already have a high end PC and can already run these games. And if they dont have such a pc for the price of the scorpio+a shit PC its likely you could get pc capable of better.
I can only imagine MLG kids with too much money and no sense will buy them.
>>341225242
>>341225035
goddamn you people are retarded
read the thread
>xbox didint win because it let me have it on my pc
>used to complain and whine on how xbox needs to share games
just shut the fuck up pc cucks seriously
>gears4 comes to pc cross play
>haha m+kb waay better than controller
you think we don't know that its easier to use mouse and keyboard and how some of you faggots will still get bodied and complain about it.
unappreciative fucks i can't wait to see some "how do i wall bounce pop shot " threads.
>>341225035
lmao if I can play the same games why would I build a PC???
I only need a PS4 Im in no rush to play indies or undertale
>>341225314
To be honest scalebound does look good. I was kinda bummed I was not gonna get to play it. Now I can of course.
>>341225337
Don't underestimate how big the mainstream market is, because that's where the gullible idiots are.
MS wins no matter what you know this right? More games on PC mean more sales and also means more people using windows 10 as well which is also good for them. Meanwhile the xbone slim is 300 dollars and the perfect console for people who don't want to bother with the complexities and expense of PC gaming.
>>341225491
Both are my posts and Its my fucking thread you moron. I have read and participated to a whole lot of it and read every post. From what I see the only answer to my origonal question of why would a person buy an xbox is that the person is an idiot or wants to play with one.
>>341225468
if you already have a mid rig or something cheap that can't play 4k and you want to play xbox and multiplat games at 4k gaming instead of dropping 1000$ on a pc to get 4k gaming why not get a 500$ console thats plug in and play ?
>>341225919
You are fucking stupid virgin PCuck
Enjoy being friendless virgin
>>341225919
>Both are my posts
I was supposed to know that how?
> I have read and participated to a whole lot of it and read every post. From what I see the only answer to my origonal question of why would a person buy an xbox is that the person is an idiot or wants to play with one.
not wanting to deal with hassle /=/ idiot
you clearly haven't read your own thread, or you would get why people would choose a console over a PC
protip: it has nothing to do with intelligence
>>341225529
Here we have one such idiot. Guess you did not read OP
>>341226008
This.
I already have a bone. I'll probably pass on the Scorpio and pick up the Neo when it releases. I'll play might high end MS games on PC, but I see no problem in getting a Scorpio if you don't want to pay for a high end PC.
>>341226008
If you have a mid rig why would you drop $500 on a console when if you upgrade with that money you can get better than the console, play all the same games at even better graphics, all the games the xbox cant play, mods and everything else.
I love how pckeks never ever include the price of windows which is almost the price of a console itself. You won't be able to upgrade for free after June , pirates.
>>341226396
>upgrading
>when clean install is better in every way
Pirates can already do clean installs instead of upgrading. But you didn't know that, because you're the same kind of dumbass that gets mad at pirates switching over to .mkv format.
>>341226149
>Not spending 10 minutes to find that is isnt a hassle to do at all and even a pre-teen is capable of it = idiot
And if you think something a child can do easily equates to hassle then your just lazy.
I have read my own thread, and people say the same thing over and over. Although I guess you could also add lazy to the dumb if you like.
>>341226382
because mid rigs don't do 4k gaming.
>>341226709
jesus christ you're retarded
just because it's easy doesn't mean it's a hassle. Building a PC more powerful than consoles is harder and more expensive than just plugging in a fucking box. What are you not understanding? This is why people buy fucking consoles.
>>341226943
it isn't a hassle*
>>341226943
>Building a PC more powerful than consoles is harder and more expensive
expensive, yes for now
harder, no
>>341226923
no but for the cost of a scorp you could upgrade a mid to a 4k easy. And thats not even taking into account that by the time scorp is out shit will be even cheaper.
>>341227262
>expensive, yes for now
even the 750ti setup is more expensive than an xbone at this point, and if you want to be way better than consoles, you have to break the bank, which alot of people are not willing to do
>harder, no
building your system, despite it being easy, is still objectively more difficult than simply plugging in a box.
>>341202191
The whole point is that Microsoft wants to force its shitty OS to everyone.
>>341226943
You sound like a mexican living of state benefits
Not willing to undergo minor hassle to enhance your experiance is very lazy, and it really is minor indeed, not like 10 years ago. Also it seems as if you have not read the thread yourself, because I have never said building a pc more powerful than consoles is cheaper, That was NOT the point of the thread in any way shape or form and I dont know why you bring it up. The point I made is nigh everyone needs a PC for other things outside of gaming and that costs. The cost of that pc AND an xbox is higher than the cost of a PC that can beat an xbox.
Really just look back to the OP its right there.
Thats all the thread was about.
>>341226943
>harder than just plugging in a fucking box
Says a shitposting loser who knows nothing about building a PC.
Please kill yourself immediately.
>>341227508
about as difficult as using a hexagonal tool to put an IKEA table together or nailing something to the wall
it isn't that much harder, there isn't a steep difficulty curve, this isn't the 90s any longer
>>341227957
And what you dont seem to get, through your thick fucking skull. Is that normies dont fucking build PCs. They have laptops and they have consoles, theyre simple and are easy to use with little hassle. Only 20% of steam users run in 1080p or higher, enthusiasts like us are a minority, normies will continue to buy xboxes despite these games being on PC. Because they know their shitty prebuilts or laptops wont run them, but they are not going to drop everything to spend 800$ building a new PC when once every 5 years or so they can spend 300-400$ buying a console that needs little to no maintainence and works without any issue.
Get it?
>>341228550
>Is that normies dont fucking build PCs
They do. There are "builds for grandma and pawpaw" in pcpartpicker. The overwhelming majority using that site are normals since it was made by redditors to begin with.
Chads, dudebros and idiots don't build PCs.
>>341228326
>>341228509
I never said it was hard you tremendous fucking retards. I said i was HARDER. As in its objectively harder to put a computer together, than it is to plug a box into an outlet. I never said it was difficult.
>>341226943
I have never herd anyone ever say "I buy a console because its easy to set up"
Why?
Because NO-ONE buys a console because its easy to set up. They dont go "shit ill just drop $300 on a console just so i can set it up"
>>341228695
you did right here: >>341227508
>objectively more difficult
>difficult
delete yourself right now
>>341228769
Its part of the
>consoles are conveniant
Argument you have probably heard
>>341228839
Because it is objectively more difficult, is english not your first language?
Playing a game on normal difficulty opposed to easy makes it objectively more difficult. It doesnt mean its fucking hard.
>xbox conference
>all games are on PC
Whats the point of xbox?
What Microsoft is doing is actually kind of genius.
They are using Xbox One as their base platform, everything comes to that and its the default system. Then they have Windows for people they know are never going to game on console. And lastly they have Scorpio, to ensure that Xbox players can still play the exclusive games at levels similar to PC.
>>341228550
>he thinks you need to spend $800 to beat xbox
More like 5-600
What you still dont seem to get is that they ARE going to drop around $500-600 in total. Why? because they NEED a pc for other things, I have JUST said this, this is the point of the thread can you not read?
$300-400 for a console plus $200-300 for a PC gives you a low end PC capable of day to day tasks and playing farmville and a console capable of playing xbox games.
$500-700 on a PC gives you a a PC capable of day to day, playing xbox games the xbox can (and better) as well as a bunch of other things.
The only reason to go for the first option is if your too lazy or dumb to put the tiny ammout of effort in to go for option 2.
Microsoft is doing this so they can sell to a wider audience and generate more income.
As for the whole why buy an xbox most people are not knowledgeable or lazy to do their research and plan on building a pc.
Be aware your on a anonymous board suppose to be dedicated to video games. Were not the common consumer.
>>341229329
To be on PC, it's a self fulfilling prophecy cause it's Microsoft.
>>341228850
Never heard the "consoles are conveniant" hell a single station where I can do and controll everything is far more convenient.
>>341229438
You stupid delusional fags thinking that people will buy Scorpio or use win10 for a no game brand.
I spit on you, no games.
>>341224758
>BEST GAMING SET UP IS PC
Fixed, since now you can watch the entire PS4 line up on youtube :^)
>>341229559
You need games to sell first, how does this burn feel? This irony is hot like lava. After an entire day of shitting on xcuck threads, like 30 of them, I can use this autistic argument you loved for 3 years.
The idea isn't to get more people to buy Xboxes as it is to get people to stop buying PlayStations. No matter what Microsoft does, they won't succeed in that because Sony literally, figuratively, and actually is carried by the nation of Japan alone. Neither Nintendo nor MS can break the iron grip Sony has on Japanese devs, the best they could do is funnel money into Nintendo so that Nintendo can buy majority stakes in developers and prohibit them from making PS games.
>>341229438
Who is the scorpio targeted at? people with money who want high end games.
There is already a better platform for this and its getting every game the scorpio has.
I'D BUY A SCORPIO FOR FORZA!
Best strayan game ever made mates!
>>341229825
But surely less people are going to buy an xbox as there is no reason to get one. It no longer offers anything that cant be found better elsewhere.
