R.I.P. Quake
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Quake just gone,anons. There were 2 decades of fun and entertaining games. But it's all over.
GAME OVER, MAN !!!!
The last good Quake game came out in 1999 though
the new quake wont have mods
HRMPH
Is there more news already besides the trailer?is it worse news?
>>341113657HUUH HUUH HUUH
>>341114105
the trailer already confirmed character abilities including a literal wallhack on Visor so no
>>341112305
nah, Quake IV was OK. Not mindblowing like Arena, but sure worth playing
>>341112057
>GAME OVER, MAN !!!!
Shut the fuck up you subhuman piece of FILTH
At least there is new UT I guess.
>>341112057
SHUT UP
You can still play the old games, they don't just disappear
Honestly I think Quake has always had an identity crisis. It felt like another flavor of Doom from the very beginning without being its own thing, back in the day when companies tried to make new IPs instead of just rehashing the shit that's known to sell
Doom is already everything Quake ever was and now that id is tweaking the multiplayer, it ought to end up being something worth playing
Then there's Quake Champions for MOBAfags. I mean, at least it's its own thing now, even if I hate everything about it
>>341122702
>now that id is tweaking the multiplayer, it ought to end up being something worth playing
You don't really believe they will change up the basic formula, do you? It'll always have loadouts and the two weapon limit. So it'll never be good, end of story.
>>341122702
>Doom is already everything Quake ever was and now that id is tweaking the multiplayer, it ought to end up being something worth playing
Sadly I think the damage is done, the "Doom MP is bad" meme went too far
The MP is pretty casual for an id game but it's still solid. Even before the tweaks it's a far more skill-based game than Overwatch or any nu-FPS bullshit. We need actual modding tools on PC for the Doom MP to survive, it's so close to being great - all it would take would be some autist making "ProDoom" or some CPM equivalent of the Doom MP
>>341123646
>It'll always have loadouts and the two weapon limit
We'll see. SnapMap is already set to drop the two weapon limit. Classic free for all mode will probably disable loadouts and the two weapon limit. Admittedly though the MP community on PC is just team deathmatch all day so I'm not sure if it can be saved at this point, but I'd rather have the DOOM MP die as a decent game instead of a bad one.
>>341123847
>all it would take
It would take quite a lot. Remove and random elements so for instance demon spawn location is random and random means luck. Then the demons are just simply overpowered. The weapon balance is off. The movement speed is a little too low. Half the weapons are OP. The netcode / general server infrastructure is bad. At least three maps have serious performance problems on my decent hardware, making me play noticably worse on those maps. Generally performance on all low settings isn't great which means CPU bottleneck, typical console port.
>>341124975
>SnapMap is already set to drop the two weapon limit.
==SOURCE!==
One of my map ideas would become viable. Actually, all of them would benefit because who plans a two weapon map, but yeah.
Remain calm people.
Until we have more information there's no need to spazz out.
*reassuring hand gestures*
>>341126172
Bethesda E3 stream, they showed the weapon wheel in snapmap, carrying like five weapons
>>341112057
people again blowing it out of proportions. quake is one of the few series i could actually see working as a hero shooter. as long as it has movement mechanics (rocketjumping, strafe jumping, and ledgejumping confirmed in the game) and has weapon pickups it will end out in the very least enjoyable
also the character "sprinting" looks more like a charge a-la reinhardt. its clearly aiming for the overwatch and quake audience in one which isn't a stupid idea
>>341127242
I hope it has ramp jumping
>>341122702
quake is similar to doom but they are not the same. there are absolutely zero doom games with the amount of mobility and levels that make use of full 3d like quake which is the identity its known for. quake is clearly a malleable title, while it wasn't initially supposed to be a doom "clone" it turned out one and competed with similar titles like descent and duke nukem 3d. then came the half life era (quake 2), and then the tournament era (quake 3), and then the half life 2 era (quake 4), its always competed with whatever was popular at the time, coming before or after doesn't even matter. none of the titles are similar enough to share anything but worlds and i really don't see the problem with competing against the new hotness like it always has
>>341127402
id like to see full air control myself
>>341127402
actually they confirmed that ramp jumping is coming to it as well. wonder if sliding will find its way into the game too
>>341130108
I think Willits confirmed air control on the youtube live stream
>>341130108
What do you mean by "full" air control? PQL physics?
>>341131000
yeah
>>341127242
>and has weapon pickups
It might not. Note how the "champions" were using characteristic weapons, one for each of them. What if they spawn with them? They tried that with loadouts in QL and everyone hated it, yet I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprise if they just try a second time. Just like Bethesda is going to try paid mods a second time eventually.
>>341130717
"Air control" doesn't mean shit. Doom 2016 has "air control" to a small extent. UT has air control.
>>341131608
the teaser also showed ranger pick up a lightning gun
>>341122702
Doom MP is trash, it feels like shit, you've obviously never played QW/Q3/QL
>>341131608
As just mentioned, Ranger picked up the Lightning Gun after killing that mook.
I like stroggs
a-atleast we still have
>reflex
>>341131827
>>341132073
You're right. Weapon pickups confirmed.
>>341131827
Could be each character has an exclusive signature weapon they spawn with but the arena is littered with shared weapons.
>>341131608
>"Air control" doesn't mean shit
Yeah but we're talking about a new Quake game, in the series with QuakeWorld, where air control was a big part of the movement, and air control was mentioned alongside other well known Quake movement mechanics such as strafejumping and rocketjumping. So that just points to QuakeWorld style air control being in, I would think
>>341112305
Quake2>Quake3>=Quake4>Quake1
Q3fags are the equivalent to bunnyhopping casuals of Q1. They both have shit taste in weapons.
>>341112057
cant be worse then Quake 4 or Wars
>>341132212
I thought about the same except I don't think any of the weapons will be exclusive to any class. In the trailer, Ranger picks up the LG off of the corpse of a different champion
test
quakecon is going to be interesting this year
>>341132720
Could be could be.
We will have to wait and see.
>>341132434
NOW JUST HOLD THE PHONE FAGGOT
literally every single quake game had bunny hoppers. quake 2 fucking INVENTED the quake 3 strafejump we know today
>>341132212
There's not that many weapons in Quake though. LG, rockets, rail, shotty, MG and gauntlet were already shown. I'm guessing everyone has the gauntlet. What does that leave? Nades, plasma, HMG, nailgun. What if there as many champions as there are weapons, and pickups are only from dead opponents?
>>341132434
>Quake 2
>everything is brown
>get the rail to win instantly
Worst game in the series.
WTF?! Even Bethesda's logo is gay in the fucking youtube channel, what they did to my Quake?!
>>341127242
It will probably only play lip service to most of those things. There will probably be a hard limit to what strafe jumping can give you, or if you rocket jump and stay in the air for too long you'll lose momentum like in overwatch.
Because mechanics that take skill to master would completely destroy the idea of "we want pros and new people to play together".
RIP fast paced shooters
It was fun while it lasted, but now its time to slow down, and enjoy my abilities and classes
>>341133568
whats wrong with it? its the quake logo, but stainless steel instead of rusted metal like the original
>>341133547
>Quake 2
>brown
Dude Quake was the brown game.
Quake 2 has crazy coloured lighting and was mostly orange if anything.
>>341134127
>it will probably
here we go again
Hi guys, Tim Willits here, I showed up around the time quake 1 was being made so I know what I'm talking about.
We're happy to create a game where new people can jump in and not worry about being destroyed by 20 year veterans.
>>341126613
They also showed berserk powerup.
Hope we get the remaining missing things from single player, like pistol, chainsaw and the rest of the mods.
>>341134610
>Because mechanics that take skill to master would completely destroy the idea of "we want pros and new people to play together"
When has that phrase every been a good thing?
I can't wait to pay for maps because they won't allow for actual fucking modding or map making.
>>341134669
he never said that though he said all skill levels would be able to play which has always been the case in quake. if anything else in the teaser was to be believed players with skill and familiarity will still overcome players without either and substantially.
>>341134876
when it hasn't been said by the developers of the fucking game? you are basing your entire opinion of this unreleased game on a fucking TEASER. its pc exclusive it isn't like they are optimizing for console players, they are going to appeal to pc players
>>341134157
Reflex on Steam. It's literally Not-Shit-Quake-Live, but that's it.
>>341135498
its literally cpma with less fucking content and more casualized (FUCKING ITEM TIMERS IN DUELS). if it wasn't going to do anything new it shouldn't fucking exist. all it functions to do right now is further split the already small community. you shouldn't support that, guy took a free mod, reverse engineered it, and relies on the community to create all the content for it with MESHES. no textures still. u wan detailed environment? enjoy spending 20 hours modeling in our editor LOL
>>341135471
https://youtu.be/llP143m6hXw?t=1m51s
Eat my ass
>>341135980
Please quit with the obligatory quakefag autism.
Item times just make it easier for new players to jeep track of that stat. Any pro raised with timers would probably not need them after a few months and do shit on instinct.
I actually like the mipmap 9 look with deferred shading
>>341136041
youve proved my point, he says that absolutely nowhere. he in fact says that there are movement mechanics which completely contradicts the idea that new players will do better than veterans which you seem so adamant to spread
quake gets a bullet
serious sam gets vr
fps ended today tbqh bros
>>341136820
>y-you-your-youre just an a-aut-atutist
>buy the game just do it!!!!!
>im not an autist i actually like casualization and the look of no textures at all, lack of features is a feature shitlord!!
fuck off, if i wanted cpma i would play cpma
why does every new fps have to fucking have specialists why can't we all play the same character why the fuck do they think this is a good idea
>>341137835
Name one arena shooter without loadouts or "heroes" that isn't completely fucking dead then tell me why anything should aspire to be that. Counterstrike and Overwatch are the most popular "arena" shooters on PC right now by a fuckhuge margine, and you can only hold two weapons in both of them.
Just bought the GOG bundle with Doom 1/2 and all the trimmings, Quake 1-3 with all DLC, and the old Wolfensteins.
Which is the best single player Quake game? I don't care too much for multiplayer arena stuff (or at least I don't have anyone to play with) but I love classic id games.
>>341139086
Quake 1. 2's not bad but 1 is better.
>>341138856
Neither of those are even close to arena shooter and even trying to label them as such in air quotes is completely retarded.
>What I wanted from new Quake
Drop the Strogg and single player focused.
>What I got from new Quake
Stroggos fighters in a class based e-sports multiplayer shooter.
This is what I wanted more of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhzXKMqZBBc
>>341112057
I came here just to find faggots like you :)
>>341112057
Are you going to create 1000 threads advertising a shitty hero-infected fps game disguised as dismay for the state of the franchise?
The best thing you can do is to pretend this game doesn't exist.
>>341139437
>Stroggos fighters
There was literally one Strogg/Q2 character in the trailer.
>>341139376
>placed in an arena
>fight
Don't give me that shit about how real arenas have you picking up new shit because thats wrong. Often times you are given the option to choose what weapons you want in a real arena and oftentimes the opponent has an advantage. Those games are the definition of arena shooters
>>341132434
look at this guys shitty opinion
>>341139673
These two look pretty Strogg to me.
>>341139437
we can all keep dreaming anon :'(
>>341140740
i only see it on visor. there are no strogg characters that look like the top
>>341123847
It's more like DOOM MP clearly has no true lasting power.
You say that much but I get the feeling most of the regulars will actually ditch it for Quake: Champions since it'll be closer to an arena shooter than DOOM is, even with Hero FPS aspects attached to it.
Honestly the only one of those I've seen and thought I'd like is Lawbreakers.
Honestly don't know what's supposed to be so bad about it. Sure they said there is going to be a special ability on each character but that is far from making it a class shooter.
I'll cry or cheer when they show some gameplay.
>>341139437
>implying multiplayer wasn't a big deal in quake of all fucking series
its the game that created esports for fucks sake, and the only multiplayer exclusive game that has come out in the series happens to be the most popular. quake singleplayer is fun but it isn't the reason anyone has ever bought quake
>>341140740
>Visor
>strogg
Anon...
>>341142001
>Visor is a playable character and an enemy warrior in Tier 5 of Quake 3 Arena Singleplayer. A mysterious warrior who never talks about his past. Assumed to have Strogg origins.
>http://quake.wikia.com/wiki/Visor_(Q3)
>>341139870
An Arena Shooter is a genre of a game with clear definitions, if you don't like it too bad fuck off and suck a dick.
>>341142879
>clear definition
>proceeds to not explain what it is
its actually a pretty general term and the fact someone could argue a game like team fortress or tribes is an arena shooter is proof of that
>>341143903
Look it up yourself faggot i'm not explaining an 18 year old concept to you.
>>341141962
no FPS game created esports, but Doom actually created fps esports
>>341144136
>arenas are an 18 year old concept
jesus fucking christ you are delusional. is quake 3 team arena not an arena shooter because flags and map is bigger than my comfy zone? i want to see you step all over yourself, im not going to look something up i already know
>>341122702
they fucked up with quake live though
>>341144734
>Quake 3 Arena
>18 years
Who is tripping over themself faggot. Kill yourself.
>>341144418
you are right my bad
>>341145181
Adding to this
>arenas are the core part of an arena shooter
This is why you're retarded. Once again, kill yourself.
>>341145181
when did i ever say that faggot? although team arena did come out 16 years ago, quake 3 17 years ago. you think quake 2 invented arena shooters or something you dumb child?
>>341145382
define arenas.
>>341145564
You're not worth my time. Kill yourself or educate yourself and when you're trying to bait in future, keep your bait consistent.
>>341145968
it wasn't like it was an argument anyways, you were clearly baiting
>>341136041
>unlocked frame rates 120hz
makeup your fucking mind
Can we please not do the routine where /v/ pretends to have been die hard fans of a franchise that haven't been relevant for a decade.
I'm willing to bet at the most 5% of this board has actually played a quake game.
>Doomsaying after a fucking CG trailer and barely any info
At least wait until they show some gameplay before you fill your fucking diaper.
>>341147285
I've been a huge Quake fan from release. As proof here's an image that hasn't been modified since 2012. I was hyped for this game until I heard the words e-sports. I'll probably play it anyway but my expectations are that it will be terrible.
>>341147297
I think both perspectives are fair.
It's too early to really give a full opinion, but at the same time people have a right to be disappointed if the game is class-based as it is an arena shooter.
>>341147285
i ran a q2 clan that had two players that played each other in the pgl finals kuin and vorador so blow me
>>341112057
>mfw there will never be quake 1 hd remaster or a new quake with the same aesthetics if not with improved aesthetics from the first game
>>341148292
but there is an HD remaster. Get the darkplaces mod with the HD texture pack and improved lighting level update
>>341148292
You could make it yourself.
Also mods like >>341148631 kinda do a good job.
>>341148631
Darkplaces is shitty though
>>341149762
fuck you shitbird. go suck the puss out of your mother's ass then break a toothpick off in your dick.
