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that internal PSU means more heat?
more heat means less lifespan?
Did you know that PS4 is always 10-12C degrees hotter than the Xbox?
Thank you autistic children, you made it, now Xbox has an internal power supply and it there is a power surge your console is dead.
Sure helped the Xbox 360.
The PS3 first slim had the best ventilation of any console.
>>341111658
>current year
>not having surge protectors
?
>>341112503
>not having a sine wave UPS
>>341112372
>The PS3 first slim had the best ventilation of any console.
can confirm, has never died on me
6 years strong
The PS3 and PS4 power supplies are so easy to replace it's literally a non-issue anyway.
You literally just take the casing off, unplug them and slide a new one in.
>>341113072
YROD
Maybe M$ wants a new red ring of death so they can sell more consoles than PS4, but it doesn't die until out of warranty this time!
>>341112372
You sure about that? Mine sounds like a fucking jet engine after a couple hours of running.
The Xbone APU is only a 120W TDP part. Slim is likely this APU on 14nm which probably drops the APU to sub 60w. Heat should not be an issue assuming 14nm.
>>341111658
Who gives a shit if there is a power surge, I have insurance.
>>341113603
But if they have an 80% efficient power supply (which I doubt), then 20%+ of heat of the total power goes right into the box before it even does anything!
Why don't PC's have external power supplies?
>>341113486
Depends on the game.
>>341111658
I complained about this last night. Fuck you fags defending an internal power brick because youre lazy and just want a cable.
Who cares? The Xbones edge is 78 degrees, even with instant on with apps+games in the background it never goes over 58. So they 20 degrees to work with, and that's before the smaller chipset with uses less power and produces less heat. The XBone was only that big and had a PSU purely because of the RRoD fiasco. There's no need for it to be huge anymore.
>>341111658
The difference isn't significant to suggest that ps4s don't last ad long as Xbox
>>341113486
>what is dust?
Y chromosome right here guys!
>>341112372
No
After 5 minutes the temp on the back is 55C and after 30 minutes 85C
I have to use an external fan to keep my PS3 alive
>>341113152
Illiterate retard, that's not the fucking issue.
>>341111658
I ran the same power supply in my computer for nearly a decade. Learn to ventilate your shit.
Xbox one runs cooler simply because there's no reason to turn it on.
>>341113830
I'm actually curious about this, if a power surge destroys my computers power source I can claim it on my insurance?
>>341112372
7 years strong and silent still, i play a lot of demon's
>>341114481
If it gets loud as fuck even with tons of dust, it's not "the best ventilation of any console." My launch Wii is still nearly silent.
>>341113968
Big deal: (Xbone Slim power requirements/ psu efficiency) + 40W < (Xbone One total TDP)
>>341114571
>sony sloppy job
>completely ignoring the pieces of gum the chinese factory worker stuck in the xbox PSU
>>341114793
I can in toothpaste land. Not sure about USA.
You fucking autistic children, PS4 is very hot it won't last 10 years I bet because GPU working always above 65C will fail eventually
>>341115834
>54.1
That's not very high at all.
>>341115390
>gum
IT's thermal paste stupid
>>341115834
Well Sony has been putting their PSUs inside their consoles for 20 years now.
>>341115834
>Ps4 for ten years
For what purpose?
>>341111658
did you know xbone is dead?
>>341112721
why even bother with a ups for gaming?
>>341115834
2 min on..
>>341112219
fpbp
>>341114571
microsoft focuses their hardware efforts in the wrong places, they always make some bulky shit when it doesn't need to be and waste resources
PS4 sells more and more.
Xbox marketeers get desperate more and more.
>>341114571
>>341115390
>>341116062
>>341120517
>giving a fucking about consumer psu
Maybe if they included something from cosel or murata.
Console peasants always provide laughs when they attempt to talk about "quality".
>>341118301
I have one for my pc but I plug my xbox in it so I can keep playing if the power goes out.
>>341122514
>bought into the pc quality meme
>HX750i has horrible coil whine
>Sometimes when I switch the pc off the mobo trips and switches the pc back on
>High end mechanical keyboard needs to be unplugged and replugged often to work
>Case panels vibrate making annoying noise
>>341123654
Wow you bought shit and it was shit? You don't say, kiddo.
>>341123919
I bought supposed high end stuff
pc mustard race rite? :^)
>>341124261
You followed some dumb youtuber or reddit advice like the dumb child you are.
>>341124729
nah I didn't
but it's ok keep kidding yourself
>>341124947
>I bought supposed high end stuff
>supposed
>>341113486
Are you playing a graphics intensive game like Killzone? Playing that during the Summer's hot weather kicks the fan into high gear.
>>341125113
I compared specs and found the best stuff that fit my budget
>>341125528
Seems like you're bad at that type of thing. Just my opinion.
>>341111658
>there is a power surge your console is dead.
what 3rd world country do you live in?
>>341125849
I stuck to brands known for quality/reliability, seems like it was all just a meme
A good PSU produces a negligible amount of heat
The fan in mine in my PC rarely even kicks on
As long as the ventilation design doesn't involve blowing the PSU heat exhaust over the components (ie it's at the end of the exhaust chain) it's perfectly fine to have an internal PSU
>>341126020
Can't say. Not enough info.
Going to go with pebkac.
>>341122514
I was talking more about what microsoft does in hardware as a whole, they overengineer the wrong shit
>>341112503
>current year
>living in third world shit holes where you lose power more than thrice per decade in the first place
>>341127193
pretty sure I have nothing to do with badly fitted side panels or poor quality PSU components
>>341127359
I don't know who Microsoft uses as a board vendor. First xbox is a nightmare all around. 360 probably the worse mainstream console in terms of hardware quality. Don't know about XBox one. Controllers are pretty cool. Like how they finally copied the good from SEGA and Nintendo.
I know they're not using Japanese based manufacturer.
>>341128304
Judging from your posts I wouldn't be surprised if you just fucked everything up in the installation.
>>341128849
It should be obvious at this point. No one who uses the word "meme" incorrectly and unironically is in any way intelligent.
>>341128551
For one example they have these massive thick USB male ends with bulging tumors in the wire for whatever fucking reason
While in comparison the playstation will simply plug in a micro USB to the controller, with nothing huge and proprietary/expensive.
I mean the xbox shit works (except for the overheating in the 360) but its just laughable how they make things HUEG for the most part, a comparison of classical japanese vs american tech down to the core.
Is that why I've had 2 PS4s die?
>>341128849
I dared to suggest pc components don't have impeccable build quality, so I'm automatically a retard who broke everything?
Nice mental somersaults.
This isn't my first PC
>>341113968
you can just put your PSU outside of your PC if you want. I have, no problem. But it did not affect my temps at all. Some PSUs exhaust out the back, and others into the case. Mine is the case exhaust style. That type is quieter.
>>341127773
It isn't about losing power, it's about power smoothing.
>>341111658
Still in denial from the Xbox 360. Jesus christ
>>341129360
Not really sure what you mean. The usb cables that came with my XboxOne controllers aren't huge. They're square but not bigger than "normal".
>>341129557
Yes retard. You but a blanket a statement and now you're surprised about said blank statement.
>>341131262
>mention a few personal problems
>STOP MAKING BLANKET STATEMENTS REEEEEE
calm down anon pls
you're embarrassing yourself
>>341131515
You really don't see the fallacy of claiming PC component are bad because you bought a few shit (so you claim) parts?
Sad little child.
>>341132075
please point out the part where I said all pc components are bad
I was just pointing out the fallacy being spouted that pc hardware is a glorious problem free heaven compared to console hardware
>>341131262
with the 360 you had to use their proprietary shit to charge your controller while the ps3 had a simply usb port to charge, no batteries either
though charging every few days could become annoying
and then that wifi not being included with the 360 thing for another example
>Microsoft
>Ever
Sony always wins. Just like they will at E3 this year, again. Stay mad Micro$hill
>>341111658
>I'm too poor to buy a surge protector
Let me guess, you ONLY ever plug in your TV and one console?
>>341113968
PC cases are much better ventilated than a console. Most PSUs also have a stand alone cooling fan and are positioned away from the motherboard. Its just not needed.
>>341128270
51c isn't high though
>fanboys try to grasp at straws how each of their favorite consoles are built like shit even though the entirely of both their consoles are made by the same company and assembled by foxconn
>>341134361
the vast majority of pc components are manufactured by foxxcon or other equivalent too, you do realise that?
>>341124261
>I bought shitty components
>All Pc components are shit
Ok mate versus a console where your stuck with one piece of hardware
>>341134361
if only it could be in america
>>341134603
Who was arguing that they weren't?
>>341134775
I didn't buy shitty components, and they're not shit.
They just have some problems
stay mad
>>341127773
Nigger there are places all over the world that get power outages due to weather
>>341134910
Namely third world countries plus america
seriously, your power grid is shit
I haven't seen a power cut since I was 6
>>341135085
>I live in a region of the world where weather doesn't affect me therefore america is shit because they have a bad grid, not because they have wickedly different climate and geograpgy
>>341132564
>I bought supposed high end stuff
pc
>mustard race rite? :^)
>>341135085
>240v
>shit plugs
>not 3rd world
LOL
>>341135372
You know the name grid kind of implies that there are multiple routes that power can be drawn from.
If weather knocks out one point then it can be routed elsewhere, if that isn't the case then it's a bad power grid.
We have weather in my part of the world too
After working in gaming retail for 8+ years I can tell you that the amount of broken xbox units due to overheating is about 10 times as much as ps3/ps4 with internal heating. As a matter of fact, the first ps4 with a heating related defect still has to come.
>>341111658
>ps4 hotter than the xbox
not sure how my xbox is a fucking volcano
>>341128270
My i7920 idles at that temp you retard.
>Its red when i set the ranges from 20-50
>>341135404
I said point out the part where I said all pc components are bad, I didn't ask you to mindlessly parrot irrelevant information.
Fanboys are pathetic
>>341135945
Try reading.
>>341136704
Just let me grab some popcorn and then you can explain in detail how you completely misunderstood my post and projected thoughts/concepts that weren't actually there
>>341135708
You seem to neglect how big america is
>>341137086
Don't think you could word that post any worse, champ.
Seems to be an attempt at strawmaning.
>>341137339
no, it's a pretty accurate description of your post
>>341123654
>I'm a retard who didn't do my research and got shitty "high end" components
>whines about PC quality
Man, you sure are stupid.
>>341138335
>I have no argument so I'll post meaningless insults and projections
E- see me after class
>>341135708
And your country is what, the size of a small US state?
The US is probably 100x bigger than your dinky little country.
>>341137185
You seem to neglect how big america's economy is
Also the vast majority of people are concentrated in small areas.
There really is no excuse
>>341138569
Whoa buddy. Stop being so mad.
Stop taking it out on everyone else that you're one of the dumb PC gamers. It's okay, you should probably just find somebody else who's smarter than you to build your next PC for you.
>>341113152
>consolefags
>messing with the insides of electronics
that's a good one
>>341138715
You know, not everyone in the US has problems with power outages. It's mostly people in rural areas.
>>341138650
US GDP: ~$18,000,000
US area: ~10,000,000 Km^2
GDP per square kilometre: $1.8
Czech Republic GDP: ~$20,000
CZ Area: ~80,000 Km^2
GDP per square kilometre: $0.25
America has almost 8x as much to spend per square kilometre as my country and yet they can't even build a functioning power grid
>>341134137
>>341135856
What is that infrared image of? If it's the outside of the case, it must be a lot hotter inside.
>>341138889
>>341111658
>now Xbox has an internal power supply and it there is a power surge your console is dead.
How about your plug your costly electronic devices into a fucking surge protecting power bar or, even better, a UPS?
Every PC in my house is UPS protected. So is the TV and all that's plugged into it. I don't understand why you wouldn't do this.
